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The Giants have an offensive line dilemma 

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ANOTHER SNEAK PEAK into the #BigBlueBanter mailbag where Nick and Dan discuss how the Giants' offensive line has changed this season, and what to expect moving forward with Carmen Bricillo as the positional coach.
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@stonewallrussians
@stonewallrussians 4 месяца назад
Last year I was not impressed with the roster construction. Hopefully it was a learning process for Schoen. And how he builds a roster. You guys are right on the mark every calculated risk blew up in his face.
@BrettM765
@BrettM765 4 месяца назад
Slot receivers can't block and they let Philips and All Pro Feliciano walk. For them to think our line was sufficient was troubling early. Then straight to horrible after a bad snap. Season was over the first game.
@nycmazda6
@nycmazda6 4 месяца назад
A rating of a 2 is quite generous. I think they were a -5. Inconsistent, horrendously coached (camp assignments and cross training concept was redic). I think we take significant steps forward with some dependable vets and also better depth. Need to see JMS take a step forward and stay healthy and Neal should be moved to Guard. Let’s hope for the best
@bigbluebanter1108
@bigbluebanter1108 4 месяца назад
Fair lol
@fatcatchet
@fatcatchet 4 месяца назад
Great question and thanks for the post..even if Andru Phillips turns out to be really good we could have had Bebe or Haynes.. We need starters and Depth and a core of young men to develop together over time..Mind Boggling to me!
@tommyg5966
@tommyg5966 4 месяца назад
begging a professional sport team to just please have an average OL for once in a decade
@thatguyjose2678
@thatguyjose2678 4 месяца назад
Wanted to give a comment on giving draft grades: I think draft grades can be crazy and stupid UNLESS, you base the grades directly on the tape you watched and grades you specifically have on the players. If a player was a reach based on your board then your grade would be bad, etc. If it’s clear the grade is subjectively based on your board of the players then it’s okay imo. love the content guys!
@billbrightly5546
@billbrightly5546 4 месяца назад
Nick, maybe you can look back at Neal on the All 22 tape of the Raiders game. Neal actually looked pretty good against Maxx Crosby (before Neal got hurt.) Gives me a glimmer of hope...
@damienlahoz
@damienlahoz 4 месяца назад
I love that nick said that neal's development is blind faith because that is the truth. him being average would be a HUGE step and nothing he has put on tape says thats gonna happen. but its the Giants so they will put him out there every week regardless becaue the giants cant admit when they are wrong
@davidsigalow7349
@davidsigalow7349 4 месяца назад
Last year, in the off-season, Neal worked with an OL coach to improve his game. The coach - whose name escapes me -said the Neal wanted to get better and worked hard. Yet, once the games started, Neal reverted to his older habits. Do we know if Neal tried again this past off-season?
@ks4545
@ks4545 4 месяца назад
Didn't love either Neal or JMS when they came out. I've seen enough of Neal to say I have a very hard time believing he'll be a better option than Eluemunor at RT this year. Maybe in the future, but not this year. No idea if he can play G. JMS was in a tough situation as a rookie playing C and making the calls with not much help on either side. The jury is still out and let's hope he can make a big jump in year 2.
@ks4545
@ks4545 4 месяца назад
And yes they signed some journeyman vets, but they are just journeyman and except for Runyan they're all 28 or older. I still can't understand why they couldn't find an OL worth selecting in Rd 3.
@michaelmeenan5522
@michaelmeenan5522 4 месяца назад
Giants brass neglected O-Line after 2022, and treated it like an afterthought. O-Line is better and deeper, upgraded coaching, but would have liked 3rd Round pick for Christian Haynes or Beebe. Overall, Giants will be much better - better D, better Offense, better Special Teams and better at QB with Drew Lock stepping up in place of a hobbled Daniel Jones.
@Sarconthewolf
@Sarconthewolf 4 месяца назад
Your date is wrong, try 2011
@sashagraves6842
@sashagraves6842 4 месяца назад
I would have felt better at qb with Tyrod or a better backup.
@dominickfiorello3603
@dominickfiorello3603 4 месяца назад
I agree with Dan that bringing in veterans was the right substitute for yet another risky draft pick. And if Brucillo can make these guys a cohesive unit Then next year let him help identify the right prospect to develop within the system. Maybe they can get to a 7. 😉
@33moneyball
@33moneyball 4 месяца назад
It’s difficult to imagine Neal ever justifying the top 10 pick….massive difference between having a bad rookie season and being awful for two full years. Even baking terrible coaching into the equation he should be much better at this point.
@bigbluebanter1108
@bigbluebanter1108 4 месяца назад
Yeah...small hope that he's a late blooming Andrew Thomas, meaning it all clicked for him and he started playing to his draft selection. I'm unfortunately not optimistic though.
@richardcesarano9724
@richardcesarano9724 4 месяца назад
Disappointed they didn’t draft a quality lineman in the draft. Our backups ain’t nothing to write home about.
@DJ-is-the-Terminator
@DJ-is-the-Terminator 4 месяца назад
Great commentary
@bigbluebanter1108
@bigbluebanter1108 4 месяца назад
Thank you
@ericgarrison3569
@ericgarrison3569 4 месяца назад
Giants still have until week 9 to trade for an uperechelon lineman they will get 6m from waller after June 1st maybe restructure a contract or 2 amd and call Cleveland for guard wyatt teller hell id even call for quenton nelson even Tristan wirfs id give a (1st for him )... David bahktari still on market maybe u can slot him at RT...VAITAI still out there too
@giantsclown
@giantsclown 4 месяца назад
Ezdu flashed as a rookie. Thomas didn't start to improve until joe judge interfered in how he was being coached.
@Giants4641
@Giants4641 4 месяца назад
They gave up 85 the 2nd most sacks in nfl history they were definitely a 1.
@davidseidenfrau3616
@davidseidenfrau3616 4 месяца назад
Well thought out
@bigbluebanter1108
@bigbluebanter1108 4 месяца назад
Thanks, David!
@robertcorson6544
@robertcorson6544 4 месяца назад
think jms would be better if he played next to the same guy occasionally
@fourdimess
@fourdimess 4 месяца назад
Who would sign up for a 6-11 season this year with all wins in the division?
@davyanonymous9674
@davyanonymous9674 4 месяца назад
If we were good enough to go 6-0 in our very strong division, we'd be winning a lot more than six games😅
@lastedain450
@lastedain450 4 месяца назад
Moving Neal to guard is the only hope for his career. He is big enough to be a mauler but I find it hard to believe his footwork will ever be enough at tackle. The O-line improved their play while he was hurt and no disrespect but when Tyre Phillips and Justin Pugh (straight off the couch) are better then it says it all. JMS is at least a center and he gets it mentally as well but pro bowl centers are very hard to find and the league wants to downgrade the pay same as RB.
@Thagomizer-U235
@Thagomizer-U235 4 месяца назад
Scoen and Daboll need risk/reward decision making training. If risk of Jones getting hurt is 60% and your backup getting hurt is 90%, then u have a 50% chance of a UDFA rookie qb taking meaningfull snaps. Unacceptably stupid. If you have unproven often injured backup Tackles and your Tackle tweeks his hamstring u have to take him out and throw away 1 game instead of risking throwing away entire season. Unacceptably stupid. If u have pro bowl player u cant afford to pay and u only get offereed a 5th rnd pick, u have to take it or u might get nothing and have him go to rival. Unacceptably stupid. These r just bad decisions not low calculated risks.
@frankcristell692
@frankcristell692 4 месяца назад
No way an 8, maybe a 6 and by the way, you gave them a 2 last year…it was a zero, historically horrible OLine, to improve to a 4 I would be happy, 3 is realistic
@guyallegretto6105
@guyallegretto6105 4 месяца назад
My ceiling is 7. Gotta mention this Nick. My two outfits in the USMC were A/1/ 6 and in Vietnam Bravo 1/9. The Walking Dead. Served at the 77 day siege at Khe Sanh. SEMPER FI
@eliharris123
@eliharris123 4 месяца назад
Evan Neal will have a good year 3
@franknoneofya9585
@franknoneofya9585 4 месяца назад
If he's moved to Guard, but yeah he will never be even average at the OT position.
@bmac9706
@bmac9706 4 месяца назад
He can’t give up any sacks from the bench
@davyanonymous9674
@davyanonymous9674 4 месяца назад
​@franknoneo"fya9 585 "Never?" I don't think we realize how truly terrible Bobby Johnson was. Evan Neal was a GREAT college tackle. I think Bobby Johnson totally screwed him up and had him blocking in a different way. AND, there were injuries 😕.
@Thagomizer-U235
@Thagomizer-U235 4 месяца назад
Neal played faster last year till his ankle started to hurt. I think Brasillo will have Neal's footwork fixed and he will play Tackle as long as ankle is healed by training camp.
@nycmazda6
@nycmazda6 4 месяца назад
Question: when DJ gets back should Giants change their approach on DJ running the ball or preserve him as more of a pocket passer given his now his medical history? Do you happen to see this as having an impact on his overall game performance?
@ralphpal
@ralphpal 4 месяца назад
I am not sure you can. He is use to it that he wont be able to change from running
@stephenlukcasy9047
@stephenlukcasy9047 4 месяца назад
Now I am super worried the O-line is going to stink again.
@paulmysliborski4832
@paulmysliborski4832 4 месяца назад
Questions about the O-line (for the last 9 years) and having crap QB's is a recipe for another 3-4 win season. This franchise will be a joke until Mara sells the team. And that will be never since he is the grandson of one of the founders of the NFL. So keep sucking on it, Giants fans. Mara is the problem, and he his never going away.
@giantsclown
@giantsclown 4 месяца назад
I really wanted bebe or zinter. Well see
@bigbluebanter1108
@bigbluebanter1108 4 месяца назад
Would have been nice. I liked both of those players.
@ericgarrison3569
@ericgarrison3569 4 месяца назад
Add Trevor Keegan in which eagles got and Christian Haynes
@BrettM765
@BrettM765 4 месяца назад
265 sacks in the last five years. We're #1 in something. They have until week 4 and I'm out on Schoen and Daboll. Giants were the only team to get no Oline or DLine in the draft. TRENCHES?
@rjharrold2907
@rjharrold2907 4 месяца назад
Tbf drafting oline isn't really a year 1 thing
@rjharrold2907
@rjharrold2907 4 месяца назад
We're also #1 in losses over the last 5 years probably and the only qb drafted from how ass we are recently was a reach at 6
@BrettM765
@BrettM765 4 месяца назад
@@rjharrold2907 Cowboys got 3 Olinemen and Beebe 3 picks after we got another slot corner with no interceptions. They must be horrible. We should do what Philly and Dallas do in the next draft.
@rjharrold2907
@rjharrold2907 4 месяца назад
@@BrettM765 I agree with you about next year. We can see what we have this year with the oline they've put together and the fa additions as it is a big year to come to a conclusion on Neal and Ezeudu. We have the receivers and tight ends set for now. Linebacker is good. Safeties are set for a little bit, we have Banks and a ton of other bodies to compete for corner like Flott, ARob, Phillips, McCloud, and Darnay as a stable vet. Next offseason is all about quarterback and after seeing the oline potentially hitting it hard again with additions as well as a 3 tech and more dline depth.
@rjharrold2907
@rjharrold2907 4 месяца назад
@@BrettM765 And Dallas took 3 guys because they really really needed to as they're going through that transition phase from their old guys to the next ones.
@portopottybreath9375
@portopottybreath9375 4 месяца назад
Remember you guys buried Andrew Thomas too. Neal will be fine. JMS is good already. Josh Ezudu is terrible. Justin Pugh was their most competent OL? Andrew Thomas is an all pro. First time I saw your channel. It will be the last.
@cyclesmoking
@cyclesmoking 4 месяца назад
A 2 or 2.5 last year???? Maybe on a scale of 1.999999 to a Trillion.
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