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The Girl Next Door Trope, Explained 

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Honey is FREE and finds coupons with the click of a button. Thanks Honey for sponsoring! | The Girl Next Door. She’s warm and inviting, and has always been there for her boy next door. But who is she anyway? What really defines her as an individual? In this video we delve into the Girl Next Door, what she represents, what she says about her era, and why it's finally time for her to take control of her own story. If you like this video, subscribe to our channel or support us on Patreon: / thetake
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@GLamoRousCooKie
@GLamoRousCooKie 4 года назад
This is such an American trope. I never understood what people meant when they talked about the famed girl next door. Not surprisingly as my neighbours are a family of owls living in a half demolished tower.
@notanotherone1835
@notanotherone1835 4 года назад
I love this comment and I love your neighbors
@mslightbulb
@mslightbulb 4 года назад
As someone living in Spain, same. Most of my neighbors instead of owls are elderly or children. So...
@remytherat2929
@remytherat2929 4 года назад
wait you dont have any neighbors?? how can that be?? what country are u from? so many questions!
@tortis6342
@tortis6342 4 года назад
All of my neighbors are old people with no kids and I live in America.
@ucheesomonu9098
@ucheesomonu9098 4 года назад
😂😂 so true
@eastward98
@eastward98 4 года назад
it's really frustrating to be assigned the "pure, nice" role because as soon as you show you deviate from it people are shocked?? like?? do you think girls aren't multidimensional too?
@conniethesconnie
@conniethesconnie 4 года назад
I'd say it's less that we are shocked and more like we are told that we are supposed to be shocked. When we get the interview about some new movie and the female actress is praising herself for playing such a truly creative and original character just because they are not entirely "pure and nice". Oh by the way when the film ends up flopping it's due to our cultures refusal to accept multidimenshional female characters.
@CottonCandySharks
@CottonCandySharks 4 года назад
I know right?
@centuryfiles9558
@centuryfiles9558 4 года назад
It pisses me off bro
@lealleontwins8703
@lealleontwins8703 4 года назад
exactly.
@thesuperiorrat4048
@thesuperiorrat4048 4 года назад
It’s shocking to see anyone out of character, not just girls. I’m someone who holds in a lot of my anger and try to be the sweetest to people around me, and it makes me feel like a I have to suppress who I really am, so one the rare times that I let all that anger go, obviously people are going to be shocked. And again it’s not just girls suffering from it, boys too. Men are expected to be masculine and deal with abuse others put on them, like being slapped, punched and it by a girl, women were expected to be feminine and reserved, but for a while now, that’s changed and I’ve met girls who get mad at other girls for wanting to be a traditional housewife, saying that it’s not doing women any favor. Now we need to look at men’s issues because it’s never really touched about, like think of one example of a movie that portrays a very emotional and stressed man without the other characters rolling their eyes and not taking a man’s tears seriously. You don’t find one.
@HauntedBunny
@HauntedBunny 4 года назад
Did anyone else hated being called “innocent?” People started calling me innocent in middle school & sure, I was very innocent. But when I said a bad word, a co-worker said “Omg I never thought I’d ever hear that coming from you, I thought you were innocent?!” I said, “ Bitch I’m 22”
@TheFuschiaDragonfly
@TheFuschiaDragonfly 4 года назад
I HATE it to death. As if being kind and gentle is a sin. As if you're not a believable teen among your peers if you don't misbehave and talk about sex all the time. And if you're a virgin than God damn it, you're in for a LOOOOOT of shaming.
@michaelroth3853
@michaelroth3853 4 года назад
Oh no! Its the end of the world!! How dare someone think that someone else looks nice and innocent!
@TheFuschiaDragonfly
@TheFuschiaDragonfly 4 года назад
@@michaelroth3853 it's not nice. They don't actually see you as innocent. They see you as a prude, as naive, weak little girl too pure to be respected. Innocence is weakness in this society.
@Embrinna
@Embrinna 4 года назад
Same here.
@dannymunch4633
@dannymunch4633 4 года назад
When I got a job offer to sell insurances, my mother told me I was too innocent to do that job and she was right. I couldn't and still can't push myself to coax someone into buying a product I do not approve of. But where I'm from saying someone is innocent actually means, it's not the type of person you would expect to betray and manipulate others for own gain. So, cultural difference.
@taryngood2273
@taryngood2273 4 года назад
Other tropes: 1: Fat girl trope 2: Gay Bestfriend trope 3: Gothic male trope 4: The Slacker trope 5: the pet sidekick trope
@oooh19
@oooh19 4 года назад
how about opposite friends? or sister rivalry (like marcia and jan brady)? or hurt misunderstood rebel (caitlin's way. she was hurt so much and through so much so that's why she felt a need to put on armor to survive)? or the feminist trope? or army guy trope (Teddy in Stand by me)? bad boss trope (maybe Kurt in good burger movie)? hippie teacher? artsy trope? beatnik? preppy? punk? emo? modern woman trope, is there one?
@shriyasahu663
@shriyasahu663 4 года назад
The vampire boyfriend trope
@sofitocyn100
@sofitocyn100 4 года назад
Gay best friend trope!!!! So annoying. Came to a point where many real life women actually wish to have a gay man as a best friend for "style and beauty advice without the annoying sexual tension" that's so irritating and offensive when you think about it!
@angelikabatwoman
@angelikabatwoman 4 года назад
@@sofitocyn100 yeah thats kinda stereotypical, but i have to say i have a gay best friend (we were friends before he came out), he doesnt give me style or beauty advice, but a lot of compliments and it feels really good to be liked by a man for my personality and also looks, but not in a way where he wants to take advantage of it. so i think we should not blame the girls for craving that feeling because their dads didnt love and appreciate them properly. but putting stereotypes over people still sucks, so i totally get what you mean!
@sofitocyn100
@sofitocyn100 4 года назад
@@angelikabatwoman but a ton of men will never go after your looks (not yours especially, talking general) not all guys will sexualize us. Some genuinely aren't attracted to us or are committed is serious relationships already. I don't think that having a male's opinion is that important. If the man is gay, he doesn't necessarily (stress on this word) know what cis straight men want from cis straight girls. I also get your point though. :) And yeah it sucks to see gays as...gays. I mean, gays are more than their sexual orientation...they are just dudes. Good, bad, smart, stupid, handsome, ugly. Just like hetero guys...
@massetozacarias5693
@massetozacarias5693 4 года назад
suggestion: The wallflower trope
@aliamohamed4588
@aliamohamed4588 4 года назад
What is that?
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 4 года назад
Also when is the wallflower going to stop being a flower and become a weed (strong in her place, takes up space, thrives despite the environment, puts up a fight), makes me think of Barb Holland
@beatrizfernandes1506
@beatrizfernandes1506 4 года назад
@@aliamohamed4588 Like a flower on wallpaper, it's in the periphery, noticed by noone, not popular nor unpopular either. Usually shy, solitary, sensitive but can have a few friends. I would say most people are indifferent to a wallflower, because they don't know him/her very well. They're often that coleague that people consistently forget about.
@courtneehudson3182
@courtneehudson3182 4 года назад
Please do this ☝🏾
@talytasbarcelos
@talytasbarcelos 4 года назад
Yeees
@Chris-hx6tr
@Chris-hx6tr 4 года назад
Sweet mittens I hate this character trope. It's so often paired with an extremely self-absorbed male character who feels positively entitled to the girl next door simply because she happens to live near to him.
@adios5072
@adios5072 4 года назад
No not really. The guy just has a crush on her and dosent know it or he does know it
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 4 года назад
purplepastelbluz 2 yeah exactly. I have no idea what the original comment or is going off about. Reaching out to whole places of nonsense.
@UntakenNick
@UntakenNick 4 года назад
I wonder what kind of films you do enjoy, without finding it sexist and offensive..
@McSnezzly
@McSnezzly 4 года назад
There’s a reason why they’re the most popular “look” in porn
@conniethesconnie
@conniethesconnie 4 года назад
So it's not the Girl Next Door you hate but the douchey neighbor who , despite not being that good looking himself, is obsessed with dating girls based solely on their outward appearance.
@reythejediladyviajakku6078
@reythejediladyviajakku6078 4 года назад
I gotta say that at least the girl next door often falls in love with a guy she’s known for years and not love at first meeting like in fairytales
@CCLOSPINA
@CCLOSPINA 4 года назад
True, at least they have the excuse that they fall in love with a man they almost see on a daily basis.
@shakirashipslied9721
@shakirashipslied9721 4 года назад
I hate "love at first sight" so much.
@melodramatic7904
@melodramatic7904 4 года назад
@@shakirashipslied9721 why? It happened to me. Well, "love at first hello" is more like it, but it happened. Been married for 7 years now. 😊
@eyesofthecervino3366
@eyesofthecervino3366 4 года назад
I know, right? I felt like so much of this video was explaining the trope as "writers trying really hard to portray this character as attractive for who she is as a person, not just for her looks."
@shakirashipslied9721
@shakirashipslied9721 4 года назад
@@melodramatic7904 I don't really have to provide an explanation for why I hate something to a stranger, but it's nice that something good happened to you.
@RespecttheScreenplay
@RespecttheScreenplay 4 года назад
What about the tomgirl the one girl in a group of boys
@anjab-1769
@anjab-1769 4 года назад
I think they touched on that in the analysis of Robin from HIMYM
@upmapoha
@upmapoha 4 года назад
I guess they've made one on that called "The Cool Girl" Troupe
@sammyr6911
@sammyr6911 4 года назад
madhura The tomboy isn’t necessarily the cool girl trope since the tomboy is seen as one of the guys and not really the one who is usually chased after. So it’s a little different, the cool girl is primarily a fantasy
@o_o3142
@o_o3142 4 года назад
It can often be the not like other girl's girl
@FacebookQueen
@FacebookQueen 4 года назад
Yes I was looking for this
@icehead101
@icehead101 4 года назад
I find it very interesting that Topanga on BOY MEETS WORLD ends up falling into this category, considering how her character was first established. Let's not forget that 1st season Topanga was a quirky, Earth-worshiping Pagan hippie whom Corey described as "totally strange." Hence why the show runners gave her such an oddball name in the first place. So she started out more as an example of the Weird Girl trope rather than the GND. Then they decided to turn her into Corey's love interest, and her character was rewritten to be more conventional. I felt like that should have been a topic of conversation in this video.
@jaycievictory8461
@jaycievictory8461 4 года назад
There's a great scene in Girl Meets World where Topanga addresses her "former" kookiness and how it informed who she became, and that she misses it. They also make it clear that Cory loved her, kookiness and all. That his feelings were there from day 1. He just didn't recognise them. Sorry, I just love Cory x Topanga, unrealistic as they are. 😅 But that was another clever thing about the sequel show : one of the really driving themes is that there is only one Cory and Topanga - that it's massively rare to marry the first person you kissed, that you've known since you were five. A big part of GMW is dismantling that trope. As cheesy as the show could be, it was actually really clever once you started digging into it.
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 4 года назад
I saw it more as character development and less of being rewritten.
@melissahollowell7255
@melissahollowell7255 4 года назад
@@jaycievictory8461 I wanted to like GMW but I was taken out of completely when the gave the kid from Austin such a stereotypical cowboy accent. Have the writers ever been to Austin? I am in it right now and it is fairly devoid of farmland and livestock.
@jaycievictory8461
@jaycievictory8461 4 года назад
@@melissahollowell7255 I think he only put on the accent to wind up Maya? Mind you, there was a later episode where we discover he supposedly rode a sheep in a competition so I can see where you're coming from 😅
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 4 года назад
@@melissahollowell7255 The timeline messes with me, like Topanga having a hippie mom and a grandma who was 13 in 1959? The daughter technically should have been born during the last season of BMW given her age in GMWs debut.
@rebeccadodd1394
@rebeccadodd1394 4 года назад
I think it's also a way of kind of delivering an idea to men that they can go out and flirt with the 'bad girl', that those girls are meant for youth and fun, but always returning to the girl next door once they've matured and are ready to 'settle down'. It's treated like a progression for men, but I can't think of an equivalent for women. Generally women in these stories are the same level of flirty 'wild girl' from start to end, or they're mature from the start and just waiting for the men to catch up Edit: When I said there's no real equivalent, I know about the Nice Guy or Boy Next Door, but from what I've seen, it's less of a progression of the girl 'growing into' liking him, and more like a realisation that he's there. Aside from a few examples, her character doesn't really change much as a person, she just chooses a different kind of partner.
@33Jenesis
@33Jenesis 4 года назад
Yup GND is plan B, satety net, or a compromise, hardly the first choice.
@upmapoha
@upmapoha 4 года назад
Exactly.
@benetje890
@benetje890 4 года назад
That might be because the "bad girl" is usually not considered to be "marriage material" by many men. On the other hand, the girl next door is often seen as the type of woman that a man wants to end up with once he's grown up a bit and got his own "wild phase" out of his system. What I think is harmful is that in these stories (and often in real life too), we are generally more forgiving for men to wanting to have a wild phase, while we do not give women and girls the same privilege.
@ojogbaneamedu2501
@ojogbaneamedu2501 4 года назад
It’s funny because you’d hear the exact same argument but opposite from incels 🤷🏾‍♂️.
@Firegen1
@Firegen1 4 года назад
The Girl next door backs up the Betty and Veronica trope to a t. Not only is it harmful to good relationships for guys where the final waifu has to hit a list of just right behaviours (more porridge then partner) rather going with his personal tastes. Also a girl side. Why wait for a not interested guy in you? What's wrong with being a bit more risque? What if you don't want to settle down in the town you grew up in? Personal experience of friend/family relationships very few are with people they grew up with. More are with people they find intellectually challenging and not overtly saccharine.
@dd3aththakidd
@dd3aththakidd 4 года назад
Lux and her sisters are perfect examples of girls next door, and that always bothered me. To the boys they were nothing but these untouchable creatures. Princesses locked in the tower, if only they could’ve been saved. I just think their suicides go deeper than them not being able to get out of their house.
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Seconded. The boys perceive the sisters as being more enchanting and almost bewitching than they actually are. They're simply taken with the IDEA of them, and not who they actually were as people. Years later, they continue to view them as ghosts, as that's all they ever really were. 😢
@Belacroix5
@Belacroix5 4 года назад
Yess I forgot about this! They couldn't even speak to them or help them until the end.
@Chris-hx6tr
@Chris-hx6tr 4 года назад
I think the last line of the movie illustrates this pretty well; even at the end, the boys are mostly concerned with the girls not hearing them, as if their own feelings remaining unanswered was the most tragic part of the story. What they should be concerned with is nobody (including the boys themselves) really hearing the girls.
@GrainneMhaol
@GrainneMhaol 4 года назад
This type of "ethereal doomed feminity" stories really bother me. Picnic at Hanging Rock is another one. The girls are idealised, otherworldly, perfect and utterly without agency.
@Aster_Risk
@Aster_Risk 4 года назад
I think there's definitely a reason so many girls, myself included, really gravitated toward this movie as teens.
@ManiaMac1613
@ManiaMac1613 4 года назад
When I was a young lad I had a massive crush on what I thought was the perfect 'girl next door'. She turned me down, I got upset about it, we didn't talk for a very long time. Last year we reconnected as adults, having had plenty of time to grow up, mature and discover ourselves as people. It turns out she had a ton of complex emotions stemming from anxiety and difficulty expressing herself, a lot of which came from this pressure she felt to live up to other people's expectations. The 'Girl Next Door' is pure fiction. She isn't real. It's good to aspire towards a certain ideal, but trying to perfectly capture a fictional character is stressful and damaging. Real human beings are not character archetypes.
@alexandriageiler687
@alexandriageiler687 4 года назад
Wow this comment really spoke to me ! I’ve been called a girl next door and “innocent” all my life so it’s hard for me to really connect and be able to let myself go in relationships due to expectations from others. So i completely understand her, that’s awesome you guys got to reconnect and discuss that !
@bennyton2560
@bennyton2560 4 года назад
Good for you! It's nice being understood, boy or girl or other genders
@ragejinraver
@ragejinraver 2 месяца назад
She was definitely real you just got rejected and taking it out on her
@Kari7
@Kari7 4 года назад
To be fair, the male trope also exists. Especially the one with the "Childhood friend" vs "Mysterious Newcomer", where the newcomer represents the girl's wish for excitement, while the childhood friend his her safety net. Neither have their own narrative either, they're the female protagonist's wish fulfillment.
@trishg4324
@trishg4324 3 года назад
Yes, thank you!! With these tropes, the “childhood friend” is also the “dad” and also sexually unsatisfactory where the “mysterious” male fulfills this one & only thing the “childhood friend” can never do.
@saramilena9626
@saramilena9626 2 года назад
An example of this is the first x-men trilogy
@vedikamishra009
@vedikamishra009 2 года назад
For example, Tall Girl
@sutyinszkializ9115
@sutyinszkializ9115 Год назад
Agree.I spent my high school years idealizing good looking guys with not so good personalities.
@komal146
@komal146 4 года назад
She's the grounded, long term version of manic pixie dream girl, right?
@Ikaros23
@Ikaros23 4 года назад
@@CCLOSPINA cant you read?.
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
She's the cousin of the Cool Girl and the Manic Pixie Dream Girl, only more down to earth, feminine and dependable. 😺
@ellaenchanted8407
@ellaenchanted8407 4 года назад
I guess the manic pixie is too wild to wife up and the GND has all the pros of manic pixie but she doesn't possess the mystery, unpredictability or ambition, making her the "perfect" wife. Now I want to see a movie with both these girls.
@melissawalsh8760
@melissawalsh8760 4 года назад
The Manic Pixie Dream Girl lives only to help a guy improve his life. The Girl Next Door doesn't live to change a guy nor does she want a changed man. She's who a man turns to when his big life change turns sour. Like the man who picks the Manic Pixie Dream Girl moves forward in life while the man who picks the Girl Next Door moves back to what he's used to.
@revival9313
@revival9313 4 года назад
Those two traits are the metaphorical backbone of the manic pixie. The only two similarities I see between these tropes is that they're both girls and the male character loves them at some point.
@Saucepv897
@Saucepv897 4 года назад
When the redhead from Riverdale said "False. You have been in love with the idea of Archie for the past ten yrs" 👏👏👏👏👏
@gkgk6439
@gkgk6439 4 года назад
andrea saucedo I haven’t watched Riverdale but I LOVE Cherryl Blossom!
@Mskittenlover12
@Mskittenlover12 4 года назад
Cheryl Blossom ❤
@juliamp666
@juliamp666 4 года назад
FACTS!!!! Bughead forever!! I hate the idea of Betty and Archie, they don't work together
@veronica5819
@veronica5819 4 года назад
Yes!!! Cheryl was spilling facts.
@zendayasfruityfrenchfry1784
@zendayasfruityfrenchfry1784 3 года назад
@@juliamp666 Barchie will RISE! Jk...I couldn’t care less
@joyce3003
@joyce3003 4 года назад
Could you do a video focusing on Chinese or other Asian stereotypes? As a Chinese-Australian it was a bit disheartening to always see the characters on TV represented as either socially hopeless nerds with no friends or as an exotic beauty/villain
@joyce3003
@joyce3003 4 года назад
@Black Knight Fool I am literally a teenage girl lmao
@emilyblunt4241
@emilyblunt4241 4 года назад
Joyce Christian from dance academy?
@genevieveowusu885
@genevieveowusu885 4 года назад
Thank you! I've been waiting for a video about Asian representation! 🇬🇭
@KimFebriany
@KimFebriany 4 года назад
I am Chinese born in Indonesia and I can completely relate to you
@kaavi1391
@kaavi1391 3 года назад
@@KimFebriany then you should watch Indonesian movies.
@gailism
@gailism 4 года назад
Idk if I'd agree that Forrest turned Jenny into anything... On every step of her journey, she made her own choices. She grew as a person on her on terms. In the end, she finally found peace with herself & dealt with her trauma, and only then did she feel worthy of the love, admiration, and security Forrest had for her.
@MinkytheMinkY
@MinkytheMinkY 4 года назад
Yes, but through his eyes, she was and acted accordingly. I loved Jenny's flaws, for the longest time she was the realest I've seen on film.
@MichaelGreenOfficial
@MichaelGreenOfficial 4 года назад
@@MinkytheMinkY "Real" shouldn't equate to being a terrible all around person
@MinkytheMinkY
@MinkytheMinkY 4 года назад
@@MichaelGreenOfficial yeah, she was terrible. But I also had neighbors like her. So it felt grounded in reality, one that Forrest would overlook.
@tanzida2165
@tanzida2165 4 года назад
@d puski oh my God. jenny had her own problems and her own life. also, she didn't "friendzone" him. she honestly believed she wasn’t worthy of him and her life was just trouble. and just because he loved her doesn't mean she HAD TO reciprocate. she never lied to him to keep him around, did she? she never told him to wait for her.
@MinkytheMinkY
@MinkytheMinkY 4 года назад
I mean, Jenny started off as an abused child, and she tried to find ways to escape. Her tragedy, though pervasive bc some people do find ways out, seems true to form. You could say she's a complicated character, as OG poster to this thread alludes to. Yes, her actions are unwise, perhaps terrible, but often they were self harm rather than selfish. We, as the viewers wanted a different story. Some could perceive injustice that she veered off course from GND and when she did attempt domesticity with Forrest, whether mercy F* or not, she died. She left a gap in GND continuity and a child behind.
@Whatsinaname_
@Whatsinaname_ 4 года назад
May you please do the white savior trope.
@luciacesarbraceras9671
@luciacesarbraceras9671 4 года назад
This.
@remytherat2929
@remytherat2929 4 года назад
*cough cough freedom writers
@1025littlefrog
@1025littlefrog 4 года назад
This. 👆🏿
@kazuzart1582
@kazuzart1582 4 года назад
@@remytherat2929 isnt freedom writer based on true event? The amerivan football movie wirh sandra bullock would be way more accurate...
@shermaynebrown5165
@shermaynebrown5165 4 года назад
Are they ready for this tho??????
@jayn5088
@jayn5088 4 года назад
Relieved to see people in the comments say they never understood this trope cause I didn’t either
@bennyton2560
@bennyton2560 4 года назад
it's a myth all along
@ragejinraver
@ragejinraver 2 месяца назад
​@@bennyton2560No it wasn't a myth she was really real but because of social media Only fans and simp culture shes extinct. The last girls next door where in the early 2000s
@stephennootens916
@stephennootens916 4 года назад
This is was a pretty informative video, I have to admit that I often think of how the the bad girl/seductress gets screwed over in many stories, either she get's thrown aside or in the case of slashers she's kill or in mysteries turn out to be the killer. It often seem to that these storied were telling young man that they should not be with a woman who they are sexually desire in any way or a woman who shows her sexuality, they must be with someone which the they have no such desire towards or never express such desire. I never thought of how much the good girl is screwed over until now.
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
If the good girl is the same as the bad girl/seductress then no wonder she gets screwed over Lol
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
uh wait isn't it the opposite? aren't these stories "telling" men/people to be with somebody that they DO desire?
@Chandasouk
@Chandasouk 4 года назад
She was right in front of you the whole time!
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Yes, and you only JUST realized how attractive and sweet she is at this very moment! What a coincidence, right?! 😂😉
@eoincampbell1584
@eoincampbell1584 4 года назад
Sure, you might have literally known her when you were both babies and unironically called her "like a sister" multiple times but suddenly you feel the overwhelming urge to marry her and wait till the wedding day to do anything physical!
@ragejinraver
@ragejinraver 4 года назад
That definitely happened to me in the girl of my dreams was right in front of my face the whole time . But when I realized she was the one it was too late . I still think about her wondering where would we be now if things were different . That's one of the bad traits of being young and dumb
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
@@ragejinraver seems to me like there's this movie where in it it was apparently said that 'sometimes what you're looking for your whole life is right there like All along' it might just take you a while to realize it or something really maybe not everybody is gonna like notice/realize everything right away all the time and at all times
@juanitamorgan5475
@juanitamorgan5475 3 года назад
In an episode of Riverdale Archie looks through his window and saw Betty and I've been following the series for a few months now cuz I've been watching it and he realized at that moment and also did I that Archie finally actually saw Betty Cooper for the first time the girl who wasn't just the girl next door but much more than he never realized that she was so this analyzation of the girl next door throat is so true
@odb339
@odb339 4 года назад
Jughead: you're the perfect girl next door Betty: I hate that word Me: "door"? *blinks* Me: oh "perfect"! Quarantine has turned my brain to mush
@tochiiii
@tochiiii 4 года назад
Odera Bob-Osamor 😂😂 same
@bouncyshak
@bouncyshak 4 года назад
Nah same, that's just bad writing.
@coffee_person938
@coffee_person938 4 года назад
it took me a hot minute to understand that line-
@calisha1889
@calisha1889 4 года назад
Honestly he could've just said "You're the girl next door, you're perfect" and it would've fixed it, just that easily
@MiLe-ql9ol
@MiLe-ql9ol 4 года назад
I was like:”that’s more than one word tho” thinking she referred to all the etiquette “perfect girl next door” xd
@isabelacuenca7503
@isabelacuenca7503 4 года назад
Am I the only one that wonders how is it that they’ve seen so many shows and movies?
@DG-gx4sg
@DG-gx4sg 4 года назад
This is literally their job
@kenzij
@kenzij 4 года назад
It's not that hard when you love film/ study film/watch film as your job
@TheSongwritingCat
@TheSongwritingCat 4 года назад
Funny. I was thinking about how they need more references. They talk about Riverdale A LOT.
@Amy-nl7sf
@Amy-nl7sf 4 года назад
Way back in the day on tumblr, there was a post that suggested that this troupe is lazy and often kind of blank. Yay, she displays basic kindness and compassion! It's not a personality. I feel like this video elaborates and challenges that. Love this channel.
@easiersaidwithmeg
@easiersaidwithmeg 4 года назад
Y’all should have included love and basketball. It’s the ultimate girl next door movie.
@laurajones1832
@laurajones1832 4 года назад
I love that movie!!!
@ispeaktoaster6671
@ispeaktoaster6671 4 года назад
Oh my god YESS
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Indeed, it's such an underrated gem! 💎😻
@FeelingFitFabFun
@FeelingFitFabFun 4 года назад
So true. Unfortunately we are often overlooked
@chauncie8201
@chauncie8201 4 года назад
Yesssss
@crystocious6715
@crystocious6715 4 года назад
This is why I love this channel. It truly helps to deconstruct all these weird ideas of femininity and relationships that have seeped into my subconscious. Thank you for drawing them out and exposing it to the light. ✨
@kierabiera9476
@kierabiera9476 4 года назад
"Im ThE DaUghTer Of ThE BlACk HooD ThE NighTMarE FroM NexT DoOr"
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 4 года назад
SUPRISE! I am the funniest YTer evah!!!! Just kidding, it was no surprise. Everybody knew already. HAHAHHAHA!!!! That was an amazing joke (it was real talk though). WAWAWAWAWA!!!! Good afternoon, dear liera
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
I'm the almost sickeningly sweet girl that your dentist has nightmares about!😁
@tochiiii
@tochiiii 4 года назад
I can’t with that shows writing
@kellitaczi104
@kellitaczi104 4 года назад
and that’s on only watching the first season
@itspienoon7883
@itspienoon7883 4 года назад
Riverdale is something else
@AndréVilaFranca
@AndréVilaFranca 4 года назад
I strongly recomend you the amazing comedy series DERRY GIRLS. Please give it a chance.
@pronouncedneev
@pronouncedneev 4 года назад
God I love Derry Girls
@johntshorter
@johntshorter 4 года назад
Love love love that show!
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Yes, it's SUCH a brilliant show! 😍 I hope that they base an entire video around it, as they briefly covered Orla in "The Weird Girl"! 😁
@Buttersnitzle
@Buttersnitzle 4 года назад
Oh lord i love it too!
@tochiiii
@tochiiii 4 года назад
What’s it about
@lhallnance
@lhallnance 4 года назад
Ooo! Do the other woman please? Like mistresses or side chicks
@latedala07
@latedala07 4 года назад
I think one of my favorite sort-of subversions of the girl-next-door v femme fatale is in Legend of Korra, where Korra and Asami have (some) of each type's traits, and are pitted against each other over a boy. And then they date in Season Three and it's beautiful.
@raaychiel_2222
@raaychiel_2222 4 года назад
To me the girl next door trope is just an accessory for the guy next door. She’s always been their for him, she’s only in movie or show to be with the guy. Often they male love interest is with a few other girls until he finally realizes his neighbor is kinda cute. Meanwhile the girl next door just stays single and waits for him to finally fall for her. It’s really sad honestly I’m ngl the love story with girl next door and her neighbor are really cute and romantic sometimes. But I think the trope has just gotten so boring and predictable. That’s why I like the way Riverdale changed the story between Archie and Betty. They really showed the toxic ness about the trope. How you shouldn’t be with somebody just because you guys have history or everyone expects y’all to fall in love. I’m glad they didn’t end up together because their friendship is great as more of a brother and sister dynamic.
@NealFowler
@NealFowler 4 года назад
I’d love to see a video about the gay best friend stereotype. It’s one of my most hated media tropes because of how dumb and reductive it is.
@miamafalda1118
@miamafalda1118 4 года назад
It's so cringy, especially because it transfers to girls irl.
@geniehossain3738
@geniehossain3738 4 года назад
Y’all really made me listen to the lines “Why in God’s name do you have this Halloween wig?” “She wears it when she has SEX with JUGHEAD!” and expected me not to howl with laughter?!??
@AmetafJohora
@AmetafJohora 4 года назад
LMFAO
@cheyenneheath1596
@cheyenneheath1596 3 года назад
Yes. .se x
@MerjemBejtić
@MerjemBejtić 4 года назад
can you do the "cold girl trope" ? you know the one that rarely shows emotions and is somewhat emotionally detached?
@dithaingampanmei
@dithaingampanmei 4 года назад
YAAS! I am that trope😁 I want to see them analyze me.
@c.eb.1216
@c.eb.1216 4 года назад
Sounds like it would intersect somewhat with the Hitchcock blonde type.
@aesenalieva
@aesenalieva 4 года назад
And men seem to love her so much
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 4 года назад
Also why they are desirable yet seen as lacking in wifey femininity (Bridget Jones vs Mark's first ex wife for example)
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 4 года назад
Also how that image is reviled or put through the wringer to become "sweeter" all because this is a woman who opts out of performing emotional labor or for self-preservation...like a man does
@zoedebeus1239
@zoedebeus1239 4 года назад
What if the girl next door and the seductive 'rival' girl fall in love and then the male protagonist realises he shouldn't define women by tropes and stereotypes.................wht if
@mischr13
@mischr13 4 года назад
I'd watch the heck outta that
@tcrpgfan
@tcrpgfan 4 года назад
That's Legend of Korra in a nutshell.
@NoName-dx1no
@NoName-dx1no 3 года назад
@@tcrpgfan I mean Korra or Asami can’t exactly fit the girl next door archetype in my opinion, I can see Asami fitting the seductive rival girl archetype, but I don’t see that for Korra, she is more like the cool girl archetype to me tbh
@adaon2282
@adaon2282 3 года назад
I’ve written too many stories about this
@solllarque
@solllarque 4 года назад
The last time l've been this early Screen Prism was still around
@marie-ie5no
@marie-ie5no 4 года назад
@@danicemarielobrin that was the joke HAGAGAGA
@jdg9825
@jdg9825 4 года назад
I wish there could be videos on the individual Desperate Housewives like there were on the Friends. "Girl Next Door" would be a good trope lens through which to look at Susan and Mike.
@raraavis7782
@raraavis7782 4 года назад
I actually used the search function, because I couldn't believe, they never covered those characters. Like, seriously? Get on it, The Take!
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 4 года назад
Ana psychology covers the series
@adannaoni8817
@adannaoni8817 4 года назад
Can you do “struggle love” and why women always feel to be in competition with other women
@kionnakelly2918
@kionnakelly2918 3 года назад
This! But I think the whole struggle love trope is way different than girls competing with other girls. It's also mostly only a thing within the black community and you see it more in real life.
@Applefablestudio
@Applefablestudio 4 года назад
Surprisingly this 'Girl Next Door' definition is really common in Asian media and comics as a leading girl. She's easy to like and relate to her down-to-earth nature, least likely to betray others. This type embodies the image of the good studious girl who grow up in a traditional household. I don't see much of a problem with it, but she will slowly evolve to be her own person?
@NoName-dx1no
@NoName-dx1no 2 года назад
Sometimes the girl would be more on the dumb or naive side instead of smart tho but a lot of them are poor, or from relatively humble households who is usually kind, innocent or hard working. Some of them are downright frustrating but some of them are nice just depends lol
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 4 года назад
But Riverdale's Betty is a psycho. Girls shouldn't look up to her. The whole show's terrible. Why do you keep dignifying it? Also, Archie's Betty does have other things going in her life. She's not _always_ competing for Archie's attention, if ever.
@marklance5921
@marklance5921 4 года назад
@Chantel Chukwuezi But you missed the gay tickling competition in season 4 *True Story*
@ddwhaley1304
@ddwhaley1304 4 года назад
FINALLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY READ THE COMIC THANK YOU!!!!
@a.d.w8385
@a.d.w8385 4 года назад
The show is terrible but I see what they are getting at by describing her sojourn away from fhe girl next door trope. The show having terrible writing and character development is another analysis entirely. Would need an entire video on it.
@Najmille
@Najmille 4 года назад
The take wants to make their take accessible, riverdale is a good way to achieve that
@itspienoon7883
@itspienoon7883 4 года назад
Riverdale is the epitome of bad high school tropes alike, but it's still watched by many viewers of that demographic. It was inevitable for The Take to NOT talk about that show, and even when it has astonishing awful female characters that fans still look up to
@imbuffysummers
@imbuffysummers 4 года назад
Paper Towns is my favorite movie that utilizes this trope because it flips it on its head and more importantly was the movie that introduced me to how much I’m in love with Cara Delevigne
@quarantinedcosmonaut4082
@quarantinedcosmonaut4082 4 года назад
OMG! If I had a nickel for every time a guy described me as the girl nextdoor! Ugh! No I don't want to ever get married and I'm not going to be here when you're ready to "settle down".
@revival9313
@revival9313 4 года назад
You're not going to be there? Your username says otherwise.
@UntakenNick
@UntakenNick 4 года назад
Start buying cat food then.
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 4 года назад
@@UntakenNick so you're saying that she's gonna be a sad lonely cat lady lol
@harusicornelio5334
@harusicornelio5334 4 года назад
I just realized that I would love a the take about the series ‘revenge’.
@elenapelayo1
@elenapelayo1 4 года назад
Yessss!
@fromthehaven94
@fromthehaven94 4 года назад
*How To Take a Great First Season and Turn it into Trash*
@jacquelinelugo5518
@jacquelinelugo5518 3 года назад
This one hit close to home for me. When I was dating my high school sweetheart, I was told by my family who is Latin (Dominican) that I should stick by his side. He was in the military and my family saw him as someone of value. Yet we dated for two years and he knew nothing about me. I was just suppose to be this girl who then becomes a young women. Whose life is meant to fit his. I hated that due to my own insecurities and outside family pressure. I was putting myself in this box I didn't want to be in. I hated how everyone just said I was the perfect girl for him. Like wtf, my hope and dreams just weren't valid. Never again, also side note loved normal people
@eoincampbell1584
@eoincampbell1584 4 года назад
The idea of falling in love with someone who you've grown up with from early childhood is weird to me because it's not actually a thing that happens much. When we grow up with people that makes us categorize them as sibling-like and not viable partners (statistically childhood friends rarely become a couple). It's also strange because it makes it seem like the only issue with incest is the blood relation. Overall it feels like a trope mainly written by people who didn't have siblings or sibling-like relationships with people of the opposite gender.
@dithaingampanmei
@dithaingampanmei 4 года назад
I think its because people change as they grow up. Sure, the girl-next-door might be someone you know inside-out. But you might not necessarily be still attracted to who she has become. Still, there's always an advantage to having a partner you truly know and trust. Marrying the girl-next-door is more common in previous generations, because as children, they had plenty of time to get to know each other.
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
"it's also strange because it makes it seem like the only issue with incest is the blood relation" DUH that's kinda of what incest is maybe also if you have a stepparent and/or stepsibling(s): who have that kind of relation to you for LIFE
@eoincampbell1584
@eoincampbell1584 3 года назад
@@monabohamad2242 There's a lot of problems if you only define incest as bad because of the blood relation and possibility of inbred offspring. 1: Would that make homosexual incest less bad? 2: Clearly a stepparent or step-sibling relationship is also bad without any blood relation. 3: Wouldn't we be kind of marking people with genetic disorders as somehow aberrant and wrong from birth? 4: Wouldn't we be defining relationships by their possible offspring when many couples don't have kids (or even sex)? For those reasons I see focusing on the blood relation aspect of incest a mistake, because people lose sight of the real problem and end up saying things that sound an awful lot like eugenics. The problem isn't that your genes are too close (though that is also an issue), it's that the power dynamic is unhealthy and incestuous relationships are very likely to be founded on abuse and rape.
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
@@eoincampbell1584 1:with all due respect,total stranger on the internt with the username Eoin Campbell,don't you think you're kinda of overthinking it? 2:dude/girl did I ever even mention anything about sexual orientation?:(lol/not trying to come across as a rude "homophobe" or anything and I'm not so sure what on earth does homosexual incest even mean exactly? seriously could you please kindly,politely and nicely make a bit of a elaboration on that please?): 3:sounds like you're basically and essentially in agreement with me on that part 4:sorry but could you elaborate a bit more please? 5:sorry again could you elaborate a bit more please?? 6:sorry again don't you think you're REALLY overthinking all of this BIG TIME???
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
@@eoincampbell1584 sorry but also your reply to my reply to your 6 months reply old seems to hardly and barely actually has gotten much to do with what I actually commented:(maybe with the exception of the whole stepparent(s) and/or stepling(s) part):
@jonasmad957
@jonasmad957 4 года назад
I love that with real life intersectional feminism you can be the GND, vixen, or both at the same time if YOU choose to be, not to further a man's character development or for his entertainment. Truly empowering!
@dreamyanon5151
@dreamyanon5151 4 года назад
IndiaJL Amen! Lolol love to be both and have unique nuance! Women were never really that one dimensional
@basicradical3581
@basicradical3581 4 года назад
Fr👏👏👏 women are too complicated to be just a whore, Madonna, girl next girl, cool girl whatever whatever. We come as complex mixes and matches
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
@@kristyna907 yeah that totally refutes Christopher's solid,valid and sensical point
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
@@dreamyanon5151 except in fiction
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
@@Chris-rg6nm well said smart,intelligent and clever one well said👌👏👏👏👏👏
@fionagreen5598
@fionagreen5598 4 года назад
This is the most relatable trope for me so far. I like the ending of this video. It was really powerful, and resonated with me.
@bubblegumloading__________7817
@bubblegumloading__________7817 4 года назад
Love you the take thank you for making this lockdown more fulfilling and smart
@Laura_Luminous
@Laura_Luminous 4 года назад
Wasn't expecting that glimpse of young James Spader. Swooooon
@carlathedestructor2454
@carlathedestructor2454 4 года назад
I forgot how good looking he was back then!
@thetake
@thetake 4 года назад
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@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Please cover Mondler, the cheerleader trope, or the Fat Girl archetype! 💗
@joopizdebest
@joopizdebest 4 года назад
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@lizzylewis276
@lizzylewis276 4 года назад
Can you make a video about Veronica Mars? I think she is also a very iconic character.
@taryngood2273
@taryngood2273 4 года назад
Please do the "wise man" trope
@adannaoni8817
@adannaoni8817 4 года назад
Can you do the “Jezebel” next please
@mandrikino
@mandrikino 4 года назад
The final girl trope, please!🙏🙏🙏 Love your videos so much!
@mandrikino
@mandrikino 4 года назад
Mmmm... what's the problem? Actually, I'm just suggesting, that's all.
@jodiebug1
@jodiebug1 4 года назад
It’s funny how contrived and short-sighted the “booksmart girl next door” I grew up with seems to me as I graduate with a PhD. It’s not necessarily deep to have ambition outside the home, and it’s certainly not shallow to make new humans and provide a loving environment for them to grow up in. It’s really tragic to me how I and so many of my friends were fed this message that you have to resist love and family to be truly fulfilled and independent.
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 4 года назад
OMG THANK YOU AND FINALLY someone who isn't shitting on the girl next door trope
@aina_walki7742
@aina_walki7742 4 года назад
Can you please do an analysis on the female psychopath/sociopath trope. For example villanelle from killing eve. Ps. Love your videos.
@TechnicJunglist
@TechnicJunglist 4 года назад
Glenn Close in fatal attraction
@aaaaaasthaaaaaa
@aaaaaasthaaaaaa 4 года назад
Girl next door reminds me of Erin and Kelly's song from office webepisodes 😂😂
@adrianneowings
@adrianneowings 4 года назад
15:24 kind of reminds me of the jackie/marilyn campaign on mad men. love the video!
@kozo1325
@kozo1325 7 месяцев назад
I think the word 'live up to' means so much to me because if I didn't live up as high as all the values seem, then I am a bad child, a misbehaving one, and a disappointing one. And as a child you never want your parents to not love you. I'm glad you help me in unpacking my emotional, thank you so much. I like myself now.
@Cunnysmythe
@Cunnysmythe 4 года назад
Joey from Dawson's Creek started as the girl next door but became the protagonist later on Also Jen was just a bit more experienced and worldly, she didn't fit the whore archetype in the slightest
@Aster_Risk
@Aster_Risk 4 года назад
Yeah. They were both deconstructions of those tropes at points.
@laisfrederick5470
@laisfrederick5470 4 года назад
Exactly, and the fact that Joey doesn't end up with Dawson (her boy next door) but with Pacey who never saw her as an idea or a safe place, shows that Joey is was one of the characters that actually subverted this trope. Pacey & Joey endgame is a bold move even to the present day.
@jaycievictory8461
@jaycievictory8461 4 года назад
@@laisfrederick5470 Still think that was one of the best and most important decisions of modern TV!
@Pinkladyisv
@Pinkladyisv 4 года назад
I’m so happy you included Laura Winslow! She’s definitely a character I associate with this trope.
@adannaoni8817
@adannaoni8817 4 года назад
Can you do the “Jezebel” next please
@tochiiii
@tochiiii 4 года назад
Adanna Oni I think they’ve already done that one in the “strong black girl trope” video
@mischr13
@mischr13 4 года назад
@@tochiiii I always thought Jezebel has come to mean the seductress who lures men astray, but strong black girl trope is certainly more accurate to the original story, so good call.
@billiejean685
@billiejean685 4 года назад
@@mischr13 I feel like that kinda femme fatale
@Crimson28
@Crimson28 4 года назад
Beverly Marsh is the best girl next door because her and the guys are a Ka-Tet and she’s an unrealized Gunslinger
@conniethesconnie
@conniethesconnie 4 года назад
One trope that is being used a lot recently is the cool parent. The antagonist who makes the parent of a teen seem inadequate by comparison. They are friends with their child and other teens, mostly the lead characters kid, prefer spending time with them.
@funtimeswithhanna
@funtimeswithhanna 4 года назад
Yes! I’m so glad you highlighted Normal People-easily one of the best shows of 2020
@jalondradavis2473
@jalondradavis2473 4 года назад
How can Love and Basketball not be an example on this list. They literally lived next door to one another. Black movies that deal with these tropes also exist and would help round out the discussion.
@johnypanta6208
@johnypanta6208 4 года назад
The girl next door....to a boy's door. Here is where you realize how popular tropes become cliché. I think people are fed up with all those labels that defined the 70's, 80's and even the 90's. People are not our projections or our expectations. People are who they are!
@johnypanta6208
@johnypanta6208 4 года назад
@strontiumXnitrate hahahaha
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
@@johnypanta6208 the second half of your 6 months old is 100000000000000% a cliche in and of itself imo
@adrielbrito876
@adrielbrito876 4 года назад
I love theses videos about tropes in pop culture, i would like to suggest a "gay best friend", i think it could be really interesting video.
@Prinzzessin01
@Prinzzessin01 4 года назад
yes that would be great - all the good it did in the beginning by normalising LGBTQI characters to the mainstream to harmfull stereotypes and generelly tossing their personality aside and reducing them only to their sexuality!
@dithaingampanmei
@dithaingampanmei 4 года назад
Tokenism is bad in general. A basic writing tip is to not create a character with their social group in mind, But rather, to write a good and relatable character who *happens* to be from that social group.
@amandaadams1759
@amandaadams1759 3 года назад
@strontiumXnitrate What do you mean? Plenty of shows do this well.
@lekiscool
@lekiscool 4 года назад
Me not even paying attention to the video. “Jared Padaleki is so freaking tall.”
@freyahartley7640
@freyahartley7640 4 года назад
And his shoulders are super wide, I always noticed too
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 3 года назад
My mother was a stewardess for United Airlines for most of the 1950s. She always said that United was the only airline that would hire her because they looked for girls next door. It got her out of her small town, which was something she very much wanted, and by the time she married my father and was required to retire, she was chief stewardess and thus the only female executive at United. I can tell you that she didn't wait around for anyone. And she's still pretty amazing at 87.
@annastephens581
@annastephens581 4 года назад
Even Charles Dickens wrote a GND in Great Expectations, Biddy
@Tasha9315
@Tasha9315 4 года назад
What about in Charles Dickens's David Copperfield? Agnes was kind of the girl next door too.
@clairewillow6475
@clairewillow6475 4 года назад
I’ve been told I have the “girl next door” look. Didn’t know what it meant at the time. But I think the person who said it to me just meant I didn’t have a fake tan or bleached hair 🤦🏻‍♀️
@mclovinfromhawaii
@mclovinfromhawaii 4 года назад
Love all your "trope" videos! Can't believe Mad Men's Jackie and Marilyn campaign didn't make it to the Madonna-whore complex explanation. :)
@alicemanderson9605
@alicemanderson9605 4 года назад
"Well.... Marilyn is really a Joan, not the other way around!"
@shimas9695
@shimas9695 3 года назад
Ah, I love the Take. Just discovered it the other day, and have gone through a dozen videos. I love your deep dives/analyses of pop culture/society, and its manifestation in media. Amazing work! Keep it coming
@hamdialihassan1048
@hamdialihassan1048 4 года назад
I would love to see damsel in distress trope explained or maybe the Mary Sue
@ritumahimkar8825
@ritumahimkar8825 4 года назад
The best analysis of the mistake we make with the trope is in the movie Flipped. Bryce sees Juli as nothing but an ordinary Girl-Next-Door and she sees him as the boy next door. He is not interested in her thinking of her as boring and she thinks she is meant to be with him. But as we see the stories from their individual perspectives that we find out more about their vices and virtues. And so do they.
@kaiakaia9059
@kaiakaia9059 4 года назад
Sweet, another trope where women are just accessories 🤮
@alrune8
@alrune8 4 года назад
ALL secondary characters are always nothing but accessories, girl. Put a woman in the main role, all other characters are accessories to her, this has nothing to do with gender, that's just how you write a story. If you want a story where everyone gets to have a full backstory, you need to write a saga or a series, not a 90 minutes movie.
@kazuzart1582
@kazuzart1582 4 года назад
@Glenna Smith there is tone of chick flick wirh men as accessory Sabrina, hunger game and so on XD depends of the demographics target for the movie
@robertbarack1827
@robertbarack1827 4 года назад
@Glenna Smith well yeah but not anymore, the equality is slowly invading the film industry.
@robertbarack1827
@robertbarack1827 4 года назад
@Glenna Smith let's just say people will adapt whether they like it or not because it's here to stay
@paigeharvey3803
@paigeharvey3803 4 года назад
Yes but at the begening of the video they said that she had to break free of that staro tipe
@directiontonarnia
@directiontonarnia 4 года назад
I wanna hug the creators of this channel. What amazing content you have !!!!♥️
@chickadeestevenson5440
@chickadeestevenson5440 4 года назад
When are you going to do something on "the tomboy"
@oooh19
@oooh19 4 года назад
or the girly girl? honestly most of us are a mix of both. tomboy is seen as empowering but girly can be empowering. is the "cool girl" or "tough girl" or "weird girl" tomboy types? and "mean girl", "girl next door" "femme fatale" "nice girl" "smart girl" girly or elements of both? Alyson Stoner comes to mind in Cheaper by the Dozen 1 and 2 and Suite Life of Zack and Cody. she was an awesome tomboy character. and Al on Step by Step. she later turned girly.
@jbennett87
@jbennett87 4 года назад
SUGGESTION: exploring millennial female friendship through "Insecure" and "Girls." I find so many similarities between Issa & Molly's dynamic and that of Hannah and Marnie's, but there's also a lot of interesting differences that come with race, class, and location that affect how these women treat each other. Also, I don't think anyone would see that video coming!
@stuffwithkim
@stuffwithkim 4 года назад
I have wanted to see multiple Take videos on ABCs Once Upon A Time for a long time. So much to explore in characters and themes.
@yoonmikim5663
@yoonmikim5663 4 года назад
A study on the evolution of female friendship and relationships to other women over the decades might be interesting to explore.
@boogerdude
@boogerdude 4 года назад
Your exegeses of tropes is endlessly fascinating. I am an art historian so I really appreciate your critical breakdowns within their social context. . Are there other people you admire for similarly trenchant reviews?
@Mrberkeley99
@Mrberkeley99 4 года назад
I’m surprised that Laura Palmer from “Twin Peaks” wasn’t mentioned as a subversion to the GND trope. The more you learn about Laura, the more you find that she was anything but the wholesome ingenue. I like how Nancy from NOES was included. For Nancy, being the GND is literally a death sentence-as she’s a sitting target living in that town and its nightmarish history. In the end, she had to fight her battle alone against Freddy Krueger as everybody else let her down.
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 4 года назад
Also the GND was always conventionally attractive so when she does get glammed up, she can be believable. Also most of the time, she is white. I kind of like how Annette Funicello was the girl next door in the original Shaggy Dog but she doesn't wait around for either of her male suitors who dump her for the new girl from France, When the girl gets outta town and the boys are both by themselves they see that Funicello's character has found another male suitor and she gives them a "you could have had a bad bitch look!"
@angelavaldez5259
@angelavaldez5259 4 года назад
This trope was my existence thru high school. It's being friend zoned and only being the source of comfort when he has a heartbreak
@desireericheymesser1951
@desireericheymesser1951 3 года назад
One of the most American sayings ever.Luvvv this channel!💛🧡💜
@ferociousgumby
@ferociousgumby 4 года назад
I think the girl next door has real connotations of a sibling. This is why it is so much harder to see her as a sexual being. But if two people have known each other "forever", live in the same place, have grown up with similiar or identical values, and feel a certain loyalty to each other no matter what - that's more of a brother-sister thing.
@nomme9816
@nomme9816 4 года назад
The take has to make a quiz on which trope I belong to. MY LIFE depends on it :D
@leaortiz5336
@leaortiz5336 4 года назад
Flipped” is another good example of that trope
@kitfairchild9784
@kitfairchild9784 4 года назад
Yes! People reading this comment, read that book! The main theme is all about changing perspective and it handles this trope so well.
@likewaterflows47
@likewaterflows47 4 года назад
You forgot Tasha from everybody hates chris ✨
@JeMappelleBecky90
@JeMappelleBecky90 4 года назад
Most important accessorie (other than the boy next door of course); the stair to the houses first floor, which she can walk down slowly when he realises how beautiful she actually is 😅.
@reynar22
@reynar22 4 года назад
Loved the latest video, still waiting for more Avatar the Last Airbender though lol
@1okdude
@1okdude 4 года назад
You ladies create incredible videos! The Take is awesome. Love your channel!
@taylor_green_9
@taylor_green_9 4 года назад
I'd say Riverdale also flips the script on "darker, sexier girl eclipses the GND". Veronica quickly becomes a supportive, loyal friend who values Betty above any of her other relationships. It also soon enough becomes clear that Betty and Veronica have very similar levels of darkness and light in them, aside from their aesthetics
@adilabadri1608
@adilabadri1608 4 года назад
Ngl I hate this trope.
@letguelere1102
@letguelere1102 4 года назад
I like the explanation of the "girl next door" from How I Met Your Mother episode "The Window" where Ted is "in love" with this girl from college but shes always dating some other guy and at the end she ends up with the "boy next door"
@blazebaby89
@blazebaby89 4 года назад
Aww Laura Winslow my fave!!!!
@kazuzart1582
@kazuzart1582 4 года назад
Me tooo. I grew up wanting to be just like her *o*
@JorgeFabrizio
@JorgeFabrizio 4 года назад
I don't think Laura Winslow should be on this list. There were only two characters that were in every episode. Carl and Laura. Both of then were making choices and growing as people. Contrary to what others may think, Steve was not the protagonist. That honor belongs to the Winslow family as a whole.
@leslierae6416
@leslierae6416 4 года назад
Could you do an episode on the Final Girl trope? I know you’ve touched on it in pervious videos, but a full fleshing out of that trope would just explode my horror loving heart in joy 💗
@celandine280
@celandine280 4 года назад
the take being a bughead shipper, nice.
@myatnoesu8018
@myatnoesu8018 4 года назад
Thank you so much for these trope videos! It helps me alot with my writing on how to create characters and to avoid bad sterotypical character traits.
@konraddygudaj257
@konraddygudaj257 4 года назад
Almost every movie is a girl next door.
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 года назад
well there are movies that are as old if not even older than my grandparents with the involvement of the GND in them soo...
@dellasophia
@dellasophia 4 года назад
about 1:34 i realized that i am the girl next door. i also go to art school so that’s an added bonus. i’ve known my boyfriend since we were 8 and he’s graduating this year. i friend zoned him for the first part of highschool. i’m blonde, i’m supportive and i have a wholesome down to earth personality. damn.
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