The Golden Girls - Dorothy Confronts Dr. Budd 

*voice cracks*, “I can’t do this in a restaurant..” “GOOD!” “But I will!” 😂😂😭😭 Me asf! Get em’ Dorothy.

The wife tells him to shut up because he did the same thing to her. Dr Budd tells Dorothy in New York, "change your attitude, maybe your hair color too. My wife is a totally different woman ever since she went blonde". Of course, she is depicted with blond hair. No doubt she understands Dorothy more than her husband ever will.

"I still wish you a better doctor than you were to me". The harshest and to me, the most powerful, words of her entire speech. They damned him more than any expletive-filled rant could have. Most doctors I know are very much like Dr. Budd: Self-assured, inflappable and arrogant; to say to his face that he's a crap doctor, which is the basis of his self-image and esteem, and to do so calmly and coolly, is worse than anything else. It shows he's a quack, which doctors deep down fear being.

As someone with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, this scene will always get to me. It can be so hard to find doctors who take us seriously...

As someone who gets dismissed by doctors because I’m a young woman who “shouldn’t have these problems because I’m young” this hit close to me. I loved it

Hands down Bea Arthur's greatest performace as Dorothy Zbornak. If you want an acting lesson, then here it is. She gives you comedy, drama, perfect timing and makes you really believe that her character went through the pain of this illness. A great scene is television history.

"but I will", Bea had killer timing...rip (

1:58 - "Shut up, Louis." The best moment of this scene. Love me some Bea Arthur regardless.

I actually dismissed a psychologist in a similar fashion and I'm so proud to say I learned it from Dorothy. Happened during the pandemic, she was supposed to have video appointments with me once every week, but she'd often skip several weeks with no explanation. It reached a point in which I genuinely stopped caring and didn't even message her anymore to confirm appointments, leading my mother (who had arranged the appointments) to talk to her and get the response that I was the one not contacting her, even though at one point she went an entire month confirming appointments and not showing up herself. I felt really proud when I messaged her and ended it all with "I hope that if you ever need a psychologist or any health professional, they're better professionals to you than you were to me."

This episode won Creator/Head Writer Susan Harris an Emmy for it.

This is so relatable. Dealt with this when trying to find a diagnosis for Endometriosis. After being in so much pain and being told that "it's probably all in your head" they reluctantly did my 1st of 3 laporoscopies. While still under anesthesia, the Dr told my Mom "I don't know how she was even walking around like that. Out of the 40 plus yrs of practicing medicine I've never seen a case that bad" I felt so relieved. I wasn't crazy! It wasn't all in my head! My internal organs literally had shifted from so much scar tissue. And even after 3 laporoscopies and having Stage 4 Endometriosis I still get dismissed by some Dr's as having "just a bad period" when for women who suffer from this understand it is SO much more than that. From those experiences, luckily between migraines and Trigeminal Neuralgia I learned to advocate for myself because if not, no one will. Some times you need to be the loudest voice in the room just to be heard and I'm ok with that

"As angry as I am and as ANGRY as I always will be..." I love the clenched teeth on the second ANGRY! GO DOROTHY!

I've never actually watched this show, at least nothing more than bits and pieces of an episode, but someone posted this clip on Tumblr some time back, and I have to agree with them: this is a PERFECT representation of how invisible illnesses are treated.

The series was so mature, funny, sincere.... One of the best shows ever.

I love how his wife just tells him to sit down and *shut up* and listen.

2:22-2:31 I love how in this scene, while Dorothy is angry, she still has the compassion in herself to point out that this doctor should rethink his attitude not just for her, but for other patients who could've just as easily been pushed aside as she was. "They need to be HEARD!"

This hits oh-too-close-to-home for me. For six years, I had baffling symptoms that no GP could seem to pinpoint. After about six months of going to multiple doctors, most of whom blew me of as a hysterical hypochondriac, Never mind how I had passed out on a street, or how I had felt like I was having a heart attack one day, it felt like every part of me inside was on fire, and it took me over an hour to get back to any kind of normalcy. But, nope, I was just a silly woman. Fast forward six years. I was a late-life college student, and I couldn't even go up a flight of stairs without having to suck on an inhaler every few steps because I couldn't breathe. That night, I had the classic "elephant on the chest" pain, and went to an ER. The doctor said I wasn't having a heart attack, but thought something else, something serious, was going on. He referred me to a cardiologist. That guy got one look at me, and sent me to yet another ER, he suspected for congestive heart failure, but he admitted something about it didn't quite add up, let's find out what's going on. I was in the hospital for a week while they rain every test imaginable on me. At last, one test pointed him in a whole new direction. A simple test, one that any fricking doctor could have run for pennies on the dollar: a full thyroid panel. I had Graves Disease. I'd had it for year. That day I felt like I was dying for over an hour? I almost went into something called thyroid storm, when every system in the body goes fricking haywire. Most people die from it. And I'd been blown off, all that time.. Later, I started having bad symptoms that no woman my age should have, post-menopausal bleeding, and bad. One of my OTHER specialists, an endocrinologist no less, literally IGNORED my complaints about it. He didn't even acknowledge what I'd said! Turned out I had uterine cancer. I fired that sexist piece of shit. LOUDLY. When I was leaving the clinic, and the receptionist tried to set up a followup appointment for me, I again got loud and said that wouldn't be necessary. Not after I'd just fired their doctor for almost killing me.--"I had cancer, and he ignored me. Not no but hell no will I ever see that murderous quack again! You're lucky I'm too sick and too tired to sue you into oblivion." They had at least 40 people in their waiting room, and all of them were paying rapt attention.

thats what i love about this show, they really did tackle a lot of taboo subject among ts the laughts

We so need sitcoms like this again.

Nobody could deliver a line like Bea! Brilliant acting and top notch writing. Funny and mature without being vulgar..I can't tell you how many times tones I've binge- watched the entire series!

I aspire to be like Dorothy one day. She's sarcastic and funny as hell, but she can also get really serious when she wants to and she gives the most amazing speeches. The one she gave to Stan in the second episode was just as heart-wrenching.

This episode really hits home for me because I’m sick and I’ve been to many many doctors that dismissed me and makes me feel I was crazy! Doctors don’t really know shit!

*voice cracking* "I can't do this in a restaurant..." "Good." *voice steady as fuck* "But, I will!"

His wife/date probably told him to shut up and listen because he's an ass to her and other people outside of work. On a personal note, this reminded me of what my grandma went through. Her doctor (a woman) she'd been seeing for years completely blew her off even though she was in pain - like she was faking it. My grandmother was dead a year later. It's been 4 years and I still feel like cursing that bitch out. Maybe I'll send her an email one of these days.. Something like this happened to me too, only at the ER. While it was not serious, I was very scared since I was 17/18, homeless, and very ill out of the blue. I understand completely that patients who crave attention come in with fake/self-diagnosed illnesses all the time, and it's very annoying and time consuming, but it comes with the territory. Other people are simply scared and doctors never really know (or ask/try to find out why) their patients seem to be so scared. Maybe some doctors need to find a different profession? Just because you like practicing medicine doesn't mean you need to be a caregiver.

Not only is Dorothy a great character but bea Arthur is a great actress it just 3 minutes she delivers comedy with excellent timing, a heartfelt speech which plays with different emotions whilst remaining to keep her grit and grace. Excellent scene

William Holmes, she probably told him to "Shut Up", because it happened to her!

“SHUT UP, LEWIS.” 😂

That's why i love this show...meanful scenes,touching scenes,And real situations but with humor ..... These days i'm taking care of my mother And i've meet a few doctors like this....Sad but True..Sorry but English ia not my First language.

“You dismissed me!”

Love this scene. I think it was a brilliant choice for the doctors wife to tell him to shut up. A subtle women supporting each other moment.

As great as Dorothy was, the legendary moment is: "Shut up Louis." BOOM! HE GOT KNOCKED OUT THERE

Whoever wrote that scene deserves an Oscar! 🏆

Love her channel suit, very sharp.

She's got a point, doctors are functioning and breathing human beings too whose bodies eventually break down and/or get sick with age just like the rest of us. They themselves will eventually end up on an operating table at the other end of a knife. They better take their jobs seriously and show compassion because they just might end up with a doctor who's just as cruel/corrupt/selfish as they themselves were to their patients.

This touched me

Shout out the the women who told Dr. Bud to shut up and let Dorothy say what needs to be said

Easily one of the best three minutes on television - not on sitcom television, not on comedy television, ALL of television. This scene lives rent-free in my head as a reminder of solid writing, acting, pacing, and masterful emotional payoff.

I have fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. Three years ago I was moments away from suicide before a health professional FINALLy listened to me and was able to give me care and medication to help deal with the crippling pain, depression and anxiety that comes with these illnesses.

Still love this scene! 2023, tell hi, Dorothy ❤

Omg, yesssss... thank you so so so much for sharing this!!!

I feel this so much. My old dr kept dismissing me, making me feel like it was all in my head, and now this year from a specialist was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, and fibromyalgia. It's so nice being told I'm not crazy, it's not in my head. Some Dr's really don't care. And some do.

Thank you for sharing. One of my favorite scenes

It’s unfortunate how some doctors can be.. I remember going to see my family doctor at age 16 to get help for what I now know is anxiety and depression. I was dismissed and told it was all an act to simply get out of going to school - despite being an honor roll student. Healthcare providers definitely need to listen to their patients. This episode was made 30 years ago, and it’s still a problem today.

Can't even tell you how many doctors have tried to pull this crap with me (and I suspect that number will increase as I get older). I was literally laughed at as a hypochondriac in the ER when I went in with a nagging stomachache...I said, laugh away, but run the damn test. Good thing I insisted, as it turned out my appendix had ruptured. The Dr Budds of the world SUCK.

I know Bea Arthur was more known for sarcasm and bluntness, but here as Dorothy I think they toned her down too much. Dr Budd didn't deserve politeness or tact, I sure wouldn't have been this tactful with some one this arrogant! I would've verbally laid him out like a bath towel! Good scene though despite the described issue. Of course, when Mrs Budd steps in, that was pretty funny though, D should've said the same, imo. I don't care about censorship or the PC b s in this case!

This is real. It reminds me of my mom. Every doctor she had they would say she was fine. They would never listen. They would dismiss her. She has a good doctor now and I'm so happy. ❤

Dorothy for 3 from downtown.... COUNT IT, it's good! And wifey totally gets the assist.

You know that was very unpleasant of Dorothy to speak to the doctor like that. I mean can you imagine how embarrassed and humiliated he must've felt in front of his wife and all those people? Shame on you Dorothy....................AGH who am i kidding that was awesome, Dorothy rocks.

I remember watching this episode the first time and it was very very true what Dorothy said ! This show highlighted many issues before it’s time ! It always taught me to be kind and caring and to listen . Loved this show ❤️

Sad part is this was like 30 years ago and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) patients are still treated this way. Also I think the scene was meant to educate more than just the doctor, it was also aimed at the sceptical viewer about the reality of this illness. Many patients have family and friends that also don’t understand or believe them.

This show reminds me of how I like my hamburgers; well done.

This show was so ahead of its time

Bra Arthur was a beautiful and amazing actress and she was so brave and didn’t look back

This episode always stuck w/ me. As a kid I was watching it in a re run, but in the summer after 4th grade my parents moved across town. They wanted a bigger home & bought in to our families 3 family house where my grandma & aunt lived. One aunt w/ her family was moving & my parents bought them out. So it was a better neighborhood but no kids around. Esp since we went to a private school I knew none of the few public school kids in the area. Where we used to live I at least was closer to the kids from my parochial school & the public school kids I'd already made friends w/ b4 I started school. So when we moved another aspect was my parents worked 9 to 5 jobs or longer til 7 sometimes so they had my grandma in her apt down stairs if we needed anything or to cook dinner . That summer my brother went to basketball camp where our cousins lived in upper state ny. I was all alone. Yea my grandma was downstairs but I missed all my friends where I grew up to 9 years old & my bro wasnt around. I'd have breakfast sometimes lunch w/ my grandma but then right back to our apt. I was so lonely suddenly I could not swallow food anymore. My parents were frantic b/c I stopped eating b/c I kept fearing I'd choke on food. I also started feeling like I could not breathe anymore. My mom took me to my pediatrician who ran all these tests for asthma for breathing & I had an MRI of my throat to see why I felt the " food was stuck " they thought maybe I had " webbing " they told my mom nothing was wrong w/ me. I freaked even at 9 b/c I just wanted something wrong so it could be fixed. This was 1990 so my parents never thought maybe me sitting alone an entire summer missing my friends that I was having a reaction to that. Mom took me to the dr again & he wrote in my notes which I looked at a few years ago as I have my medical records " take her for a psychological evaluation " she obviously didnt. I sorta wish she did but taking ur 9 year old to a shrink prob freaked her out b/c I wasnt " crazy " as the summer went on I was losing weight having anxiety started sleeping in bed w/ my parents it was so crazy. She took me one more time & she asked for a different pediatrician in the practice. Finally instead of being dismissed of a dr saying I needed a shrink this dr was kind & asked me & my mom if any big changes had happened. She told them we moved across town. He asked what I did all day I said nothing just watch tv or swim by myself . He told her he thought that was the problem that I was reacting to this change & being alone so much I was " getting in my head " the dr told her maybe u should put her in camp too. My mom was blaming herself that she thought it would be ok to leave me w/ grandma right down stairs. So as the summer ended & I started school my brother came home I suddenly was all better. I could eat & breathe fine. We all realized that I was having a reaction to moving & being alone all summer. I was distracted again at school. I started getting bigger so the next summer she made sure to send me to my cousins houses I had a lot of cousins I was close to so she made sure I was busy. Camp wasnt a big thing like it is today. They also just spent a lot of money buying a piece of the 3 family home. So since my brother was older they only had the money to send him to camp plus they had to save for our private school b/c my school district was horrible. So what is so funny is I was watching this episode the weekend before school started & it's so funny at 9 I could totally relate to dorothy. Ok our issues were different but the same in that what we had was not something tangible a dr could fix w/ medicine or see. Now chronic fatigue syndrome I think is what they call Epstein barre syndrome & is a recognized medical problem. Mine was psychological but totally normal. I wasnt crazy & their was a " cure " keep ur kid busy & not alone for 13 weeks. So to me I must thank the golden girls b/c no joke seeing this episode was exactly how my first dr treated me like I was a crazy child when I was just a lonely child who moved & missed being w/ other kids .

This isnt just about a doctor its about all authority figures who are responsible for lives and abuse there power you have my respect for life bea Arthur Rip

DISMISSED! yes that is the word.

1:59… I miss the days when more people held their loved ones responsible for their wrong more appropriately… In the real world, a woman would’ve bucked on Dorothy. No disrespect to the people who ride for their significant others… But, right is right. And, wrong is wrong. Sometimes “riding” for your loved ones is letting them know COMPASSIONATELY that they’re slipping, or, have slipped. Then, assuring them that they’re loved regardless, and, have support. A lot of people(maybe not all of them. But, you continually pray for those) would respond positively, and, proactively to that type of encouragement(I know I would)… Respect to those who agree, and, strive to live by that example. God first…

I hope they show this episode at every uni and med school in the world. There is something really horrible about doctors dismissing you for something you know isnt right.

I have CFS. It started two years ago. This scene makes me want to burst into tears

CLASS!

🙌🏾 Dorothy my forever fave

I wish we could see the conversation, inn the car, while Dr. and Ms. Budd were returning home...

Such a great scene.

Tottaly different, and yet similar situations... 0:49 - My boss put me through a very embarrassing situation, and made me feel like me working was just because he allowed me, granted me the chance. And I couldnt have it, just couldnt. I quit my job right there on the spot. Words couldnt express how I felt then. But even now... I dont hate him, I only feel pity for the students under the carge of such a tyranical and cinical man.

I so relate to this. When I was in grammar school, I had to get an exam every year in the nurse's office with the town doctor. The town doctor dismissed that I had a problem with my tonsils. I walked around like that for so many years until I was 12 years old. I never confronted that doctor, but I would like to one day.

WOW Dorothy! Just WOW!

I understand this so much..

Doctor Butt

Brava!!! More doctors need to hear this, more doctors need to understand this. 99% of them seem to have lost their humanity along the way. I wish for all of them what she wished for him -- it's more kind than what I had in mind.

Unfortunately, this happens to me all the time with pain management Dr.'s.

the terrible thing is drs still dismiss this illness in 2021 , a lot of us have medical ptsd because of this

During this time, my mother, God rest her soul, also had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. She slept all day and stayed up all night. She was always feeling like she had the flu and couldn’t get over it. I was about 9 yrs old. I was concerned about her but just thought she needed a nap. Her docs wouldn’t listen to her either. They just told her she was depressed and to take a pill. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Really sad. And my grandfather was a doc.-a baby doc, to be exact. He was better to her than most docs back then.

Go DORATHY💪🏽💜

Doctors just don't seem to care these days. It's all about the all mighty dollar to them. What needs to happen is that they need to be put through mandatary sensitivity training, because what Dorothy said was right, they lose their humanity.

I have severe epilepsy. I had it some what under control. I started having new seizures that I never had before and I was terrified and she literally gave no shits.I had 3 seizures in a row in the waiting room and they did nothing but send me downstairs. I'm so angry. I can relate to this. No one deserves this. It's hard. And she made me feel dumb. I felt guilty for seizing in her presence.

1:08 That line was so out of place. Duh, wife or girlfriend of the doctor, she's OBVIOUSLY A FORMER PATIENT OF HIS. Other than that silly line, I love this scene!

I don't have chronic fatigue syndrome but I have endo and this speaks to me so much. Might be fiction but damn this golden girl is so on point.

SHADDUP LOUIS!!

Bravo Doherty, all doctors are the same.

Wow, I can totally relate

As someone who suffers from a chronic pain disease that no one understands, I applaud this scene.

When Dorothy is confronting Dr. Budd, he told her a lie. He said she can trust him.

Yep, my Dr office in Gridley, Ca

I can relate to this episode. Presently I’m suffering from back spasms. The usual painkillers that are used to help patients recover all contain lactose. I can’t take them because I’m allergic to dairy. Therefore anything containing lactose is only going to make matters worse. I have been to the doctor three times These past two weeks. Two out of the three they have prescribed medication’s that I cannot take due to lactose. The most recent one I even said right to his face does this contain lactose? When I got to the pharmacy, the pharmacist said oh you can’t take it it contains lactose. The level of anger I have right now is palpable.

This is exactly what idiopathic hypersomnia has been like for me. My psychiatrist did not take it seriously and wrote it off as nothing for years despite the condition worsening and years of begging. Finally, a sleep study and a neurologist confirmed there is in fact a sleep disorder present and damn, this scene really hits hard. It really is like this living with a chronic illness.

I'm sat here cheering, I wish doctors would listen cause then I wouldn't be in a wheelchair

i still wish you a better doctor than you were to me

I feel her...I had my ankle removed thru years of marathon running..doctors told me that I would heal and walk within a year and may spend my life in a wheelchair..I told the doctors, you know science but you don't know me. I was walking and healed within a month and working out , doctors were amazed and did a documentary on me but then labeled me bipolar manaic and demand I take 2000 mgs of meds which I refused..the psyche literally called the police on me during a session and they stuck me in a psyche ward for two months but I still refused the meds. My body, my choice.

1:59 “shut up Lewis”

Love this scene, but it appears that Bea is maybe reading her lines from cue cards?

God bless this show and it’s never ending timelessness. I just wish this particular instance wasn’t an experience shared 30+ years later. Instead I had to give 10 blood tests in two months, begging for a hysterectomy because I knew I had endometriosis. The symptoms lined up, and I had plenty of medical history including my bio-mom’s medical discharge from the navy for her endo. NOPE. JUST MAKING THINGS UP FOR DRUGS. CLEARLY.

As a person with Dissociative Identity Disorder and Autism Spectrum Disorder, I'm just waiting for getting at the same restaurant wit at least one of the doctors that told me I was a psychopath, histrionic, "normal" or something else, dismissing my actual diagnosis while taking my shoestring budget money at the same time.... 👿

If I could I would post this speech to the doctors, nurses, & clinics that fucked up, dismissed me/belittled me and didn't catch the Lyme Disease and 3 coinfections (Babesia, Bartonella, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever) in time for me to not suffer the way I did and endure the physical and emotional damage the way I did.

When the woman said Louis who is this person I now saying a very tick off passant who is letting your husband boyfriend or fiancé have it for the bad service she got

Endometriosis in a nutshell.

This hits a little too close to home.

I CAN'T be the only one who watched this entire exchange with only one thought: "Aw, man............he's not going to be getting any tonight, I GUARANTEE YOU!!!!!!!"

Relateable. If you are fat doctors will never take you seriously. Their answer will always be lose weight for whatever problem you are coming to them for. Once had a doctor tell me to stop eating cheeseburgers. I had just lost 20lbs by means of unhealthy disordered eating at the time. That just made cut more calories out until I was eating less than the nutritional needs of a toddler. A few years later was diagnosed with PCOS. A condition that can cause weight gain! Doctors: your patients might not want or need your diet advice. If they come to you with a hurt arm don't tell them to lose weight first in order to be treated.

10/10

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