For anyone considering the DCT I have almost 24k miles on my Elantra N DCT and I’ve had 0 issues. I drive a lot for my job and can confirm that the seats do get a bit uncomfortable but overall I absolutely love it. It also gets solid MPG
I mean... I seriously wonder if the owners let the car be properly broken in or not. I've got Kia Stinger GT w/ GT2 package in my house and never had any reliability issues. Made sure to do proper breaking in w/ the oil change.
Like you said.... dollar amount per performance for this vehicle is incredible! Love mine in DCT! Got it for 36k good thing. Car is so much fun to drive. Just add the Takeda 3" non resonated mid pipe exhaust system and N mode sounds amazing! Like 3X better!! TRUST ME! Look into it, got mine for $430. 😎
The vehicle does not have adaptive cruise, it's just lane centering, has normal cruise control but has AEB(automatic emergency braking) so don't rely on it to stop for you every time, it's used to diminish impact.
People love the Civic for it's FWD attitude. Elantra N would be similar, if it had a lighter front-end. Granted, current setup makes it very competent track tool, but a lighter approach would make it a more endearing daily... Aluminum roof and hood would have been a cool feature.
if you really want some reduction, you could look into a lighter/weight Brake kit, rotors. as well as aftermarket carbon hood/roof/trunk etc. IJS, for its price of entry its offering a lot of performance/power/options. Including the suspension/steering/profile tuning. That imo also make cars more "endearing" dailys vs others that dont offer these features with the aspect of this power/headroom in play as well as the ceiling. Other than that, the solid axle/cvboot/bearing assembly is also a hard barrier to a conceptual "endearing" daily as well. If anything its a reason to own or not own the elantra N. BC any aggressive weight/breaking changes in corner/downihll grade and potholes etc...can easily affect transmission/engine/hub over the lifetime of ownership...and the implications seem costly; otherwise if babied on the highways/bad roads and tracked properly...those axles and this build/tune/price offer a lot to the end user on any given day/canyon.
@@anhiirr We're got the worst construction/road crew (Toronto), Already blew out my 4S's from potholes and have been riding on 18' winters. Also curbed it bad several time (get distracted a lot). Probably some expensive wheel bearing repair in my future, but seems to be holding up well with all the extreme abuse. After putting on 25k on my EN, I agree that a lighter approach isn't worth it for this chassis. My old Civic would get extremely good when I took weight off it, but doesn't seem to be the case with EN.
EN will be a lot more fun out of the box and faster stock almost everywhere. Decent to mod as well. The WRX might be better for big turbo applications but we'll have to wait until you can reliably tune them.
considering the CTR and Integra type-s is going for 70k...and hyndai is trying to offer the N at half that price. The only real/main concern is how they bridge this gap in this price segment. Their solid axle/cv boot/bearing hub assembly. IMO its what offers the "lack of understeer" most ppl would connotate with FF. Which honda worked hard and spent hard to engineer the characteristics out of the CTR. Only any hard shifting/launching seen in POOR DCT owners that didnt swap their engine mounts...lead immediately to transmission issues/failures etc. Any hard downhill cornering/breaking and the occasional pothole/change in traction also adds stress to the engine/these parts inherently. IDK how costly these aspects add up to in the long run. As so cal can have some harsh road conditions/highways. Luckily you can tune/change driving profiles to add some ideal suspension/activity for those scenarios/commutes. Otherwise for the $$$ it definitely offers a lot...including the implications of performance/steering inclination etc with those axle/assemblies. The driving aids like lane centering etc also help with insurance rates which can help with cost to own in the long run as well. IMO ppl with DCT issues probably launched theirs like crazy and "hot rodded theirs" prior to a proper break in/driving/oil change. Either way the dif winds up having its "time out" when you hit a pothole mid corner/down hill etc and so on...and it has to earn its weight in gold by not DYING or killing the trans with every bounce/shift in weight...over the lifetime of this car. It greys the area of pushing the limit, where other cars with more mechanical aspects(dif) could potentially have better implications to use/abuse ratios. PPL ought to look into better mounts for their DCT sake. In most cases if you wind up hitting a pot hole/change in front wheel/grade/grip under high breaking/acceleration scenarios its going to put STRESS on your transmission or hope your "ediff" driver aid/computer system kicks in to save your drivetrain....at the expense of "performance" or again catering to the "absolute limit". Which really puts this car in a very "niche" category of use/ownership/abuse ceiling. In rural areas or places with more quality roads or track access this car could be a DREAM....in metro areas with many bad roads...and constant right turns etc....youre already looking at changes to bushing/tire/suspension/axle/boot/hub performance/wear over the lifetime of ownership on a per oil change basis, just a common aspect of these circumstances. Same to shifting/profile/DCT health in these road conditions.
I can't wait to get a kit of my own been looking at your stuff for a while I just can't wait for a good sale 😅 do you guys have a showroom in the LA location I would love to drive down and see.
I love everything about the elantra N except the way it looks lol especially all those angles but definitely best bang for the buck when you're on a Budget.
3:26 if you still have to push the gas I don't think thats adaptive cruise. Adaptive cruise means it will activate normal cruise control but keep you a certain distance away from the car in front of you
Hey hows the storm comfort springs on the elantra. Ive been trying to find reviews of em but havent really seen any of. Was thinking getting one for my KONA N.
The N interior is so clean and nice. Those seats are 🔥 but I just can’t get behind the exterior. Not my type of look. Also recommendation for a new shop car. Get the new Integra Type S. I’m sure a AFD Type S would look sick.
The seats are cool looking and work in handling, but they suck for distance driving. My 2020 VN has the old seats and they are obviously significantly more comfortable.
I have test driven 3 of these now. All automatic, they seemed pretty good. Yesterday I did an extended test drive putting 40 miles on one by myself though.. pretty good! Just too expensive, as with most vehicles. :(
@@JohnLee-db9zt not just that theyre all becoming cross over/suv "popularity" is whats being made/sold. On top of that trucks are going up in price....and you get so much "LESS" of options/car for less money as well these days. most cars for 30k or less...are merely daily/eco/commuters and will retain their value that way/fall apart by year 10-15. While the electronics will be older...as proven oil/viscosity has to change and these "newer" cars dont TAKE to such aspects as older/commuter cars do/did. with these inherent aspects of long/term/high mileage ownership...not to mention transmissions.
The current meta is to use meth injection. There isn't much need for E yet since you can just run meth instead. I think a UK garage has a 500+ whp one that runs E but i'd have to double check if they are running E or not
@@mogulme6190lol believe what you want bud I talked to the tuners I’m tuned rn too, meth is the only applicable option to gain consistent gains rn. Until someone unlocks a Ethanol map don’t say i didn’t tell you so
there is a 600 mile brake in period. which i followed. i’m 9100 miles in and no issues. i’ve done res delete and bov and driven the piss out of it and it’s fine
@@robertf9521he’s just hating on the fact that the 2013 elantras had an engine recall. This elantra N has a completely different engine from that generation ignore the troll.
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 so does the type r with the exploding transmission? And the mustang with the automatic transmission issues? The mopar with constant oil burning? Corvette still bending its push rods? The list goes on. You want reliable buy a EV… I worked at multiple hyundai dealerships and not had one Elantra N come in.
Well for 1 the elantra makes more power than both the cars you mentioned. And 2 it doesn’t get marked up as bad as the GR86 and subaru and 3 it doesn’t have RTV issues.
@T M stock for stock ready to purchase, I can see why that would not be a bad way to go... I was a bit curious what AFDs thoughts were after modifications. Thanks for the feedback!
Elantra N gives best bang for buck. The 86 is overpriced af for what it is. And WRX (plus the type R) is the closest competitor in its price range but the WRX has nothing on the driving dynamics to the N. Power wise the N is the most powerful once you buy it.. tuning wise the WRX wins esp this new WRX that car wakes up once it’s tuned. The 86 has the roots of Subaru engine problems so reliability is low, tuning capability is there but you don’t know what you’re gonna get out of that car. Comfort wise the WRX and 86 may slightly edge out the N but the N is a super capable car to daily, put it on the lowest suspension setting and you’ll be fine. Driving experience N wins no argument. The car is FWD but it feels like AWD.
@@anthonyscott5484 i agree with all of these points! Wrx is better for tuning so in states that are strict with emissions the elantra n is better but if you live in an area without issues with laws than the wrx is better. Wish more companies offered tunes for the n its a shame.
@Anthony Scott VALID! I grabbed a 23 WRX personally just because of the AWD. I'm in the mountains so with snow FWD just really wasn't gonna cut it for me. I will say though, you have changed my views on the Elantra N. I couldn't get past the Hyundai name before tbh... I was always taught they were garbage and transmissions are far from reliable.maybe not so bad after all. Thanks!
I'm at 72,000 miles on a Veloster N and the only issue so far has been the HPFP having a pressure spike that led to a limp mode. Warranty immediately replaced that and it's been flawless. I change the oil at 4k loosely, treat it very kindly before it gets to operating temp, then absolutely lambast the fucker once it's hot. I don't baby the engine at all. MPGs havent dropped (intake valves likely decently clean still). I've heard about some others having issues with electronics, but I'm a case of flawless activity. I've seen more problems in my parent's BMWs, their Raptor, friends' subarus, friends' GLI/GTIs, and even in my own old Fiesta ST.
But you will refuse to believe the EN is the more fun car to drive, not just talking power. The elantra will beat the WRX anyday on a track or curvy road. I can care less about straight line racing. (Whoopty doo) who cares.
i will only trust reviews from people who DRIVE the car! and i dont mean to and from work and daily commute and how many MPG etc that a buncha bullshit anyways..where is the reviews from those who DRIVE the car and beat the living shit out of it.