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The Great Potential of the Tudor Black Bay Ceramic

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A Discussion around the Tudor Black Bay Ceramic (2021) now with a METAS Master Chronometer rating, newly introduced ceramic case and slightly updated design. Will it popularise the ceramic sports watch? Is it showing manufacturers that ceramic watches can be made more affordable for the masses? Is its movement technology going to rival its competitors? This watch shows a lot of potential.
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@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Correction: METAS standards are 0 to +5 (not +2 -2)

@btyc 3 года назад

I appreciate the METAS direction Tudor is heading. I own the GMT, and never had an issue with accuracy, but the anti magnetism and shock protection are useful additions, particularly in a travelers watch with all the magnetic fields in an airport / plane

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

@@btyc It's really exciting. I have fallen head over heels with Omega and their movement standards and if Tudor can implement the same (hopefully with slightly slimmer cases in the future) They'll smash it. There was mention in the comments that Tudor is saying all of their movements will fall under this METAS rating in future

@chrisstevenson2622 3 года назад

METAS sounds to be more strict than COSC. This means you are getting a better (more accurate) movement than Rolex at a more reasonable price point.

@chrisstevenson2622 3 года назад

@@ID-Guy Question…. I want to Tudors website and they state their movements are COSC certified and no mention of METAS. From a quick Google search, it appears METAS is a higher standard than COSC. Am I incorrect in this??

@robertsullivan4773 3 года назад

Which to me isn't really that big of a deal. I have at least seven watches in my modest collection of Breitlings Omega's Rolex and Tudor that all run within +6. I'll add that other than the Rolex's none are 5/6 K USD. But I agree this is a bold move into an interesting material. I finally added Ceramic to my family with the Bathyscaphe with the Blue dial. I know it doesn't fit in this discussion due to the price point.

@slevitt18 3 года назад

The Pelagos is due for a refresh and some attention. This ceramic watch and new movement are very nice. I hope Tudor does something special with the Pelagos.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Fully agree. It is the "modern" and "innovative" piece that Tudor offers and does need more love. Imagine a slightly smaller & thinner case size, new movement, a few adjustments to the dial? Smash hit. Thanks for the comment, brother

@bu83 3 года назад

@@ID-Guy And less lines of text. Pelagos Master Chronometer 500m-1660 ft

@tz8559 3 года назад

most important make the pelagos wearable smaller - in diameter and thickness... less is more...

@BrittPearceWatches 3 года назад

I absolutely love your take on things! Thank you soo much! ❤️

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

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@michaelfierman3256 3 года назад

Definitely a shot across the bow at Omega. You'd have to think this is their strategy for the upcoming future. How much of the market can we ( tudor) take from them. Considering the price advantages, quite a bit, I'd say. Now lets see this ceramic in the 58 size case!

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

It's very interesting and like with any business, if your product offers the same for less you're bound to become the most popular. Seriously impressive move to say the least. And thank you as always Michael!

@KD-dl5gv 3 года назад

@@ID-Guy The more for less principal is not applicable in the watch industry.

@SP-pn7xx 3 года назад

By that logic, the Oris Aquis should be the Death Star against all other brands

@garyboyle695 3 года назад

@@ID-Guy Really , why is Rolex so successful then as there so many watch companies that offer so much more for so much less? Unfortunately marketing seems to be more important than the actual product.

@johnulmer1622 3 года назад

They'd have to do something with those Fisher Price hands and indices before they'd get my attention. Adding a ceramic dial does take the attention away from those two cheap looking parts.

@blueshirtbuddah1665 3 года назад

The more I look at this new release the more I like it. Tudor is definitely moving in the right direction. I love how on this watch they have out Omegaed Omega. I always enjoy your perspectives IDGuy, great job as always sir.

@lauriedale6104 3 года назад

Would love a full on video looking at a redesigned pelagos possibly with marine nationale branding. Love your vids, especially the redesigns of things such as the McQueen explorer!

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

It will be done Laurie! Very keen to get back into the designing chair and looking at more watches under the microscope ;) And thank you so much for taking the time to watch the clips!

@kehlew0160 2 года назад

Didn’t give BB in general or this one much of a thought until my AD persuaded me to try it on. Deposit paid on the spot!

@MrCheesetastic 3 года назад

As an owner of the Tudor BB Burgundy, GMT and Pelagos LHD I had taken a break from the brand for a while and purchased my Omega DSOTM Apollo 8. I really have been enjoying the ceramic case. Then this comes along. There might be room for another Tudor in my collection after all. Great video and insight on your thoughts on the watch. Ceramic really is getting traction in the watch market

@russell996 3 года назад

Great review of a great piece 🥃

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Always a pleasure, sir! And I never congratulated you on your Sinn "holidaymaker" the other day! Ah, I'm teetering on the edge of that rabbit hole next...

@Mark..P 3 года назад

Great review. I think it is stunning and a great direction for Tudor 👏

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Exciting times ahead Mark! If this is their new strategy, I will definitely climb onboard. Bring on the Ranger next! ;)

@Nefville 3 года назад

Its a cool watch. 2nd the bracelet. The first time I saw it I hated it but looking at it more its growing on me. The one thing that stops me from getting a ceramic watch is the color. Its either black, white or blue. I would love to see a grey or more steel colored case. Do that and I'm in. And great job IDGuy. Nailed it.

@byergo 3 года назад

Another can’t miss video! Nice job!

@chazfromtheburg 3 года назад

Excellent analysis, as always. The upgrade to the movement and the METAS certification is significant. The use of modern materials is intriguing. But I’m still not over the feeling of “bait and switch” in this release. If they do release a MN Collab soon, and it blows us all away, all will be forgiven 🙌😆 Another great video! 👊

@gintings 3 года назад

This looks great. Don’t know why some are very critical on this

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

It's very slick. I think most of the gut reactions (like mine at first) was that it just looked like another Black, Black Bay. Peeling back those layers though, it might spark quite the "movement" in the next few years

@maximl8820 3 года назад

Agreed!

@DesignAtelier 3 года назад

According to an interview, the Marine Nationale announcement could still be happening. The French Navy seems to allow their groups of personnel to commission watch brands for military use so long as they are not commercially available or production run. For those who want to have a full public run of a watch in collaboration with MN will have to apply for a license. With a rigorous array of test to attain a license, we can see both Yema and Tudor gaining the MN seal much like how METAS and COSC would be.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

So, so exciting! We must chat more about it on Tuesday. If it's a smash hit, it would definitely be a watch I'd be lining up for. Thank you for this information, brother. Pretty amazing that Yema have already sealed the deal with both the MN & The Air Force (officially)

@WatchMeEDC 3 года назад

I’m impressed… a new video 1-day after release. Good opinion and take as always - nice aesthetic, good movement, good price. But now every hodinkyhoo will have black watches and they will be all the rage for a year, so I’m going high polish next 🤪

@GH-bl7ql 3 года назад

My BBC is already waiting at the AD. I am looking forward to the MN Tudor. I do hope it is a pelagos blue or blue bezel LHD. All is possible. Tudor are proving that they can rock the market as much as their big brother can. In fact since their pepsi GMT a few years ago one could argue that they have been hitting 6s all the way. Good job another nicely done video with some good insight. People have been critical about the watch, but I suspect it looks much much better in person. Keep up the good work ID guy!

@authorjohnwquinn 3 года назад

I always enjoy watching your videos. Very well done. I don't have a "high end" watch as of yet, but watching great content such as yours really helps educate me towards making a purchase that I'll be happy with. Thank you!

@martinkaplan1805 3 года назад

It's awesome in every way. Thanks so much for your incisive and thought provoking review. I want it!!

@garybunting3035 3 года назад

I was thinking of getting a LHD Pelagos but may hold off to see this watch in person, im also hoping to get a Smiths Commando 👍

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Gary, I know it's snobbish, but watch movements can really seal the deal at the end of the day. There's something amazing knowing that you have something so accurate on wrist. Even if this model doesn't get you, holding out for what they have around the corner (I'm assuming a BB58 maybe even something better) grab it! And the Commando's are elusive beasts... Eddie has a surprise that should be arriving by next month I think ;)

@garybunting3035 3 года назад

@@ID-Guy I've seen his posts on FB, re his ideas, I dis have a Commando in my basket the last time he had them in stock but as I was at work I missed out on paying for it in time !!! The joys of being a front line NHS worker.......saving lives but missing out on watches 🤣🤣

@davegreen2009 3 года назад

Am in Antwerp and they have a LHD Pelagos in stock in one of the jewellers but they wand €5000 for it £4300 I walked away but I quite like this one

@WatchCyborgKT 3 года назад

What a wonderful spec Black Bay Ceramic is!😲✨

@blainecole5452 3 года назад

My initial observation; This tuxedo version makes me think of the hour hand as a bowtie. Nevertheless, Tudor has stepped up their game. The new movement, case material, and exhibition case back are welcome improvements.

@craftingmat5425 Год назад

I love this watch, too. Have been close to buying one twice but finally couldnt do it. This one is so good, so understating, so well made... I still wonder it has not yet the amount of attention I think it deserves. To me it is the best BB Tudor watch so far - really love it. I assume I will have one within next one or two years. Good review, too! Like!

@chrisstevenson2622 3 года назад

This is outstanding! A Rolex/Omega quality and put it at an affordable price point. The design is appealingly the eye and the grey text and bezel doesn’t take away from reading the time. This is a true tool watch designed for daily wear.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Interesting, right? It has this level of sleekness that definitely speaks to me too... I'd happily rock one and thank you for this Chris! It's a very exciting time thinking what they might do next

@ssdc2 3 года назад

Maybe this watch is different, but I tried on a Black 58 a few weeks ago and the quality isn't even close to my Omega SMP300. Lovely watch but on a definite tier below.

@chrisstevenson2622 3 года назад

@@ssdc2 I’m curious how a ceramic watch case would hold up to really hard daily wear. That all depends on where they put the quality. I don’t expect a tool watch designed for hard daily wear to have high polished edges or even a clear case back. I want a watch that will work under the most inhospitable conditions and keep going no matter what. They have returned to what a tool watch really is. A tough reliable watch with zero frills.

@chrisstevenson2622 3 года назад

When I send a watch in for servicing I would put in instructions NOT to polish out the bumps, scratches or scrapes. It’s those things that allows a watch to tell the story of the watch and the wearer. Plus, it builds character. Sadly, watches have become fashion jewelry pieces instead of being the tool watch they were originally designed to be. I do wonder as to why watch makers haven’t embraced tritium and drop the traditional lume.

@ssdc2 3 года назад

@@chrisstevenson2622 I guess there will be a lot more photos of that coming up.

@jcbsplace 3 года назад

I’ve been thinking it over. I really do like the watch a lot and I like seeing this movement. The colour scheme is totally on point they nailed that aspect. My only issues are as discussed being the issues with the black bay case AND something doesn’t quite gel having this vintage design in modern material… what do think having discussed the issue with the blacked out longines legend diver? It’s a minor gripe though, overall as a release I think it’s banging

@yaaxarr8977 3 года назад

Love it and great content you shared..Ty !

@vdbdg 3 года назад

Having the actual watch in my hands, I concur that it’s an interesting evolution and forward-reaching

@xekret 3 года назад

When I think ceramic, an IWC Top Gun chrono always comes to mind. They are releasing more models later this year which will be a clinic in ceramic for all the other brands.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Speaking of which, I wanted to cover the Mojave model they introduced this year! It looked stunning. Just think of the opportunities that could come from this in the future? Ah, I'm excited. Thank you for the comment (and reminding me) brother

@xekret 3 года назад

@@ID-Guy No problem and just you wait! Just remember the name Lake Tahoe in the next few months.

@trevbarlow9719 3 года назад

The Top Gun is the only blacked out watch that I would be comfortable wearing.

@Maarten_official_account 3 года назад

Great video as always. I wonder what’s next up Tudor’s sleeve.

@georgehave 3 года назад

I am impressed by the watch. I agree that they have thrown down the gauntlet and other manufacturers should be concerned. Will be interesting to see how the other guys respond.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

If the Black Black Seamaster Pro gets discounted, it'll be next on my list ;) Don't know why, but it's so cool (to me) - Can't wait to see manufacturers stepping up. Just imagine gloss white ceramic cases... It's the future I tell you!

@underachievingwatchcollect1878 3 года назад

I wish the ceramic Blackbay had a lumed bezel 🤔.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

I was thinking the same thing. Black lume would be very slick - but then maybe that's too modern for their more traditional stock ;)

@joker14n 3 года назад

The tuxedo !! Yes sir i want one

@CocoKoi321 3 года назад

Yaught master is the same way sucking on that bit

@Sirkelsag666 3 года назад

Sounds terrible.

@slevitt18 3 года назад

Sorry for the second post. The more I look at this watch and understand it, the more impressed I am. I really like the polished bevel on the ceramic case - it really pops and provides design consistency within the Black Bay line. At last the new display back makes sense - it was pretty feckless on the gold and silver Black Bay 58s. And it makes sense that the ceramic came out as a Black Bay rather than a Pelagos because Tudor couldn't have released this watch at US$4,725 under the Pelagos umbrella. While I prefer a date complication and bracelet, this is a compelling package with a solid value proposition. Let's see what accessibility is like.

@Annoyedsince1986 3 года назад

I did NOT like the look of this watch at first, now after this video, I'm kind of in love...cheers!

@timgreen6952 3 года назад

Excellent video. Colour me excited

@mikeontherock 3 года назад

A black black-bay sweet! Would like to see it complimented with a ceramic bracelet. The Silver case is also very interesting. I agree with having less scripts on dials in general.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

I'm just thinking of the possibilities of seeing a gloss white ceramic case one day. The opportunities are endless! Thank you for your comment Michael. Very exciting to see what comes from this

@mikeontherock 3 года назад

@@ID-Guy white would certainly be interesting. I guess you could actually get quite a range of colours using ceramic.

@joker14n 3 года назад

Love the ceramic case. It seems a natural progression for tudor to follow up the 925 (which i truly love) with another exotic case material. Now how about just completely going off the rails and letting people request a little customization..maybe a green bezel??! Crazy talk i know, but its fun to imagine

@garyboyle695 3 года назад

To be honest if this was any other watch company that was not part of Rolex, we would not be talking about this. Christopher Ward did it just as well at a fraction of the price. Unfortunately watches collection is more about bragging about look how much my watch cost than the actual watch itself.

@desertsoldier41 3 года назад

CW is not METAS, it is a COSC SW-220 more or less what Omega had 25 years ago. Not in house.

@garyboyle695 3 года назад

@@desertsoldier41 and your point is what exactly? You have unfortunately bought into the whole marketing hype.

@Youtubeuser1aa 2 года назад

Yup. If I’m going to buy a nice watch I don’t want a no name brand. Otherwise just wear Casio.

@fkurcik 3 года назад

Domed crystal gives it elegance, but a flat crystal might improve usability.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Ah, it's a catch 22. I'm super biased though when it comes to crystals ;) Boxed or Domed just hits differently. Thank you for your comment Frantisek

@brandonnickerson8934 3 года назад

Rolex partnering with MN is awesome. I love their straps. There is a learning curve adjusting and putting it on. I still make sure I'm sitting when I do, so if it falls, it goes on the lap. But they are so comfortable. It's a perfect match for my Flighty. I saw an all black MN strap on The Mad Watch Collector's Channel. I reached out to Mo, the MN owner, and he sent me one. I have yet to use it, because it's so hard taking off a masterpiece glidelock bracelet. Hard as in, best bracelet on the market.

@watchingfinance1234 3 года назад

Awesome video. I didn’t catch the price? The version you proposed which removed the text on dial, placed the co-brand logo bottom right, and added a black nato strap looked literally perfect. That’s why you’re the IDGuy!

@William_Saint-Agne 3 года назад

What does the recent releases (chrono, silver, ceramic) say about Tudor inside the Rolex group ? What could result is having a sister brand with a lesser overall less brand perception appearing more innovative and audacious ? Will Rolex feel the need to catch up at some point, is Tudor used as a testing ground for Rolex, or it is a way for Rolex to compete with other brands like Omega or Zenith on these new grounds ?

@fungusfoong9080 3 года назад

Rado has been tinkering with ceramic for a long time.

@RobW1170 3 года назад

I was hoping for a revamped Pelagos this time around! Seeing loads of comments wanting a 39mm Pelagos though... Do we want all our watches getting smaller?! Keep it 42 for the bigger guys and girls, just thin it down a touch/offer a no date version and I'd be ecstatic!

@btyc 3 года назад

I am sure I’m one of many that would love to see the BB58 treatment on the Pelagos, modern tool watch credentials on a sleek daily wear. That would be a piece!

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Absolutely. And it's bound to happen. The Modern Snowflake aesthetic has way too much potential to be ignored ;)

@neelsengupta662 3 года назад

I like it! Quite unique, I think

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Pretty slick looking machine and thank you as always for your comment Neel

@Leftystrat 3 года назад

Bought an omega seamaster 57 recently and compared to this I am so glad I did. Looks half finished.ok we have the entree, where’s the main course? Steel Bracelet? Pip mark? Like having a shirt with no buttons imho

@cptrgz 3 месяца назад

Omega is glorified hublot (last 10 years)

@donaldneo4317 3 года назад

Saw the watch in the flesh at my AD. Looks nicer in real life than photos or videos. Being OCD, love to have a ceramic watch but nay to the DLC crown and bezel... maybe kept the bezel, crown in steel and make the bezel numbers in "steel" colour as well?

@ShambaBasher 3 года назад

No good as a diver though if you can’t read the bezel at 30 ms depth in U.K. waters?

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

I guess they wanted to keep with the "blackout" aesthetic (which does compromise the bezel for sure) - It's often a common trait of design overtaking function sadly

@sidmini 3 года назад

The basic requirement was a lume pip at least !

@mannyfernandez1713 3 года назад

It would be interesting if there was an episode about the watches of WW2 and the Marine Nationale

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Next week, brother. This release couldn't have happened sooner... "Watches of the French Armed Forces" is currently on my desk being edited ;)

@mannyfernandez1713 3 года назад

@@ID-Guy YEEEESSSS

@verykeen2please 3 года назад

i agree, the only Tudor i really do like, even setting assist the David Beckham brand thing

@0017Bulldog 3 года назад

ID Guy, this was a great show as usual, however your soothing voice and presentation could have been focused on anything, such as "what hot sauce is best" and I would have listened intently and delivered the revered thumbs up willingly. Keep up the great work.

@effetier4375 3 года назад

please do not forget the Tudot Fastrider in ceramic. According to Tudor, the bezel on the Pelagos was developped as an outcome of the Fastrider

@drongodrib6357 3 года назад

Black bay 'Cassius' as in (Cassius Marcellus *Clay*Jr.) Great content as always IDGuy ✓

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Like it, Perry! Gotta think of a catchphrase that works with "butterfly - bee" analogy next ;)

@tippykaffu4047 3 года назад

ceramic finishing is very hard to do and most ended up becoming dull. The scratch resistance(and fragility) is the very problem itself when it comes to using ceramic in a watch. The prototype watches tends to be WAY WAY better than what the product is since some companies brought watches that they didn't promise to make because they dont have the technology

@TinBin-Craig 3 года назад

its brill i love it... cheers

@albertc6486 3 года назад

Omega must be very shocked😂

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

I know I would be! But hey, they know how to adapt pretty well. Most would always buy an Omega over a Tudor because of the brand anyway - we're snobs like that ;)

@AbstractMan23 3 года назад

3:59 where did you get the +2/-2 from? This is what it says on Tudor’s Facebook page: “The TUDOR Black Bay Ceramic is able to function within a 5-second range of variation each day (0 +5), that is to say 5 seconds less than the Swiss Official Chronometer Testing Institute (COSC) (-4 +6) carried out on a single movement.”

@AbstractMan23 3 года назад

@@IDKline thanks 👍🏻✅

@JustinsSupercars 3 года назад

Do you think this is a short term investment piece? I heard that this will be hard to get this year.

@annebokma4637 7 месяцев назад

Wouldn't a bracelet take the watch to another category of pricing? I tend to replace bracelets with straps anyway 😊 This one, the bronze and the 925. That would be my collection, meanwhile second hand it is a $10k gift to oneself. I think that is very reasonable

@markymark3572 3 года назад

Nice watch. Less keen on the gap between where the strap connects to the case at the top & bottom. Maybe too much hand showing underneath?

@PanuTiihonen 3 года назад

I think Yema beat Tudor to it, making the blue Marine Nationale diver. As for the black ceramic BB, spec-wise it is amazing. Bit "tacticool", yet somehow manages to not look like a toy.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Yema is doing some serious business! Now partnered with the MN & the Air Force... Also very interested in the stealthiness of this model too. Here's hoping it arrives in the BB58 format soon (they could really be quite adventurous with this)

@AbstractMan23 3 года назад

I much prefer it saying Black Bay and having only 2 lines of text, as opposed to 3 lines of normal text - which is a bit of an eyesore, especially if it isn't typeset in the 'smiley face' format. And I'd be happy even with only "Black Bay", and no 2nd line. What colour are the hands? They seem to look different depending on the photo.

@NegitiveFeedback 3 года назад

Got allocated one yesterday, apparently local dealers are only allowed one per AD..

@yellowwducky 3 года назад

So this is unobtanium then for the vast bulk of people. 8 million people in my city, 10 ADs give or take.....yea, this watch is not going to be buyable is my hunch for a non ultra vip.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Wow, that is pretty selective to say the least... I wonder how many of these they'll be making over time? Thank you for this!

@NegitiveFeedback 3 года назад

@@yellowwducky possibly.. could also just be a local thing.

@arthurluz5356 3 года назад

I really like the experimentation with new material by Tudor. Maybe we could expect something from Rolex in 2-5 years if the trend continues and proves successful. I like the look of the watch, even though I am not a huge fan of ceramic unless in a very “heavy hitter” as the AP openworked, as it may look a bit cheap, perhaps similar to a black plastic fashion watch. I wish it came in the 58, as I a way bigger fan of the 58 than the normal BB. To summarize my opinion: wouldn’t buy it, but am a fan of the experimentation and it doesn’t look too shabby.

@JohnSmith-oj3fh 3 года назад

Did Tudor discontinue the North Flag? It's not appearing on the Canadian site. Is it the same other international sites?

@nunsc Год назад

i got mine, great watch l, also found one for 6k.

@furiousg1904 3 года назад

Tudor wants to get notice, and be it self, and avoid be compared to his big brother.

@tccycling 3 года назад

Make this in a BB58 version and I'm sold.

@AbstractMan23 3 года назад

Re: the MN possibility, at the end of the promo video it did say “until next time” 🤔😉

@WatchmanNiel 3 года назад

I for one was excited by this release. Until I saw 14.4mm!

@freeminder23 3 года назад

Really interesting piece....just do not like the bold markers and hands. If those where more sleek I would buy one

@jamestomlinson9679 3 года назад

We’re all talking about tweaks and upgrades to the Pelagos or the black bay etc but in reality if they bring out a Tudor submariner we all now what we will try and get it’s not like the demand isn’t there

@josevasquez1781 3 года назад

Why the long text above 6, it's not needed at all. The bezel material is different than the case, why 41mm, I rather go for the IWC Ceratanium Chrono, it cost more because it's more of a watch and it's also a tool watch just like this one. Maybe, just maybe things might change if I see it on the metal. I just had way to many watches test get boring within the first few months of ownership lately.

@English2Elvish 3 года назад

This one is not for me... I am still waiting (and VERY excited) for the 39mm regular BB58. I really thought (when it was mentioned to me) that they would be releasing a Coke GMT - a good guess, but I guess not. I like the Pepsi of all them, but, am holding out for a Rolex Pepsi on Oyster.

@peterc3700 3 года назад

I may be in the minority but I really like this watch!!!

@alex73181 3 года назад

I had to do a double take, I know it's in a different league, but I thought this looked A LOT like my Glycine Combat sub stealth.. Of course I'd rather the Tudor. But the glycine is growing on me

@affegorilla1299 2 года назад

Do you know how long the waiting list is by now? Not willing to pay 1€ more!

@Mark-pi7vj 3 года назад

Love it! I'm just afraid of ceramic watches. Bang them and they will break. IWC solved this with Ceratanium, but this is not 'real' ceramic, but at least it won't break.

@Narakera 3 года назад

Hasn't Rado also been using ceramics for the longest time?

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

They definitely have... Very good point. But it's like with any watch in the mainstream, it gets the limelight. Crazy, come to think of it, I remember seeing ceramic Rados in the 2000's

@ellmusic769 3 года назад

The question is: Who wants full ceramic watches?! Nice movement though.

@styx4947 3 года назад

this watch is going to be the first real 'Jab' at the whole Side of the Moon series, and the Metas Master Chronometer cert, by Omegas nemesis in Geneva!

@styx4947 3 года назад

@@IDKline Indeed, you're probably right. I didn't mean it in that way. I think it's being aimed at Rolex/Tudor fans that also like that look. Rolex itself will probably never make any production watch like that. but there are fans that would love to see it so this is a neat solution. Without a radical change to the Marquee line.

@styx4947 3 года назад

@@IDKline iam new to the watch world and I just can't see why people are so enamored with Tudor these days. I understand why back in the day because they were almost literally a Rolex with an ETA. So you really could feel what it was like to have a Rolex on your wrist, but at a way cheaper price

@styx4947 3 года назад

@@IDKline Couldn't agree more! It really is it's own little universe. fascinating.

@ssdc2 3 года назад

@@styx4947 Same (new to watches) and also don't get the Tudor fanfare, or dare I say HYPE. They are nice, but nothing amazing. I think Longines releases much nicer watches, and would put Tudor closer to their level than Omega, Rolex or GS.

@Vrbaski 3 года назад

Looks like a Steinhart Ocean ONE Phantom. Oh the freaking IRONY. Yikes.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

We only knew it was a matter of time before things would go full circle. Ouroboros and all that ;)

@moshinkhalifa 3 года назад

Not much of a divers watch without lume on the triangle 🔺 so why METAS certify it?

@fasteddy60 3 года назад

I like it, I want one, on a bracelet. :)

@JDP-88 3 года назад

Tudor really needed to put this on rubber

@evanspivack2714 3 года назад

Really a stunning watch--and this coming from someone who has never been a Tudor fan. I can even forgive the now-established snowflake handset! Thanks for the great intro to this watch!

@MrPresident1878 3 года назад

Wilsdorf and co. don’t see Omega on Rolex’s level. They’ll use Tudor to compete with them.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Crazy to think, right? I'm guessing more than anything they're maybe looking at price brackets between the two brands. Looks like the MOD Seamaster reissue can't come soon enough ;)

@MasterSam85 3 года назад

yet Omega spent the last decade pushing prices into Rolex range. Remember the sub-4k$ Speedmaster ? I love this sunburst black dial...and also love the BB58, even though I'd take one with mercedes hand (and get a blue Sub with full square index + snowflake hand). Question is, why is ceramic becoming popular *now* ? Rado and Chanel have been using it for years...

@jonathana2079 3 года назад

@@MasterSam85 I think Omega's price increases are a mistake. Take the 41mm Constellation. They should be offering a steel bracelet and not just a rubber/leather strap. Kind of a half hearted effort. I would expect more at their higher price levels.

@garyboyle695 3 года назад

And apart from the marketing what do Rolex do better than Omega, certainly not the watch itself which are far inferior? Superlative chronometer lol, a self certification holds no merit. I've an Oris that cost £1k that holds 1 second a day.

@ZeroSOFInfinity 3 года назад

Now make this in blue, and Tudor can take my money

@josayeee 3 года назад

Looks like DLW modded Seiko

@HHIto 7 месяцев назад

My dad was a senior scientist on the SR71 (Nuff said!).🥷🏻

@thomascrown7818 3 года назад

Question, how come Rolex is not getting into this space of utilizing precious metals and materials on their collection? Yes, classics are respected but with no twist? I'm talking about explorers here.

@trevbarlow9719 3 года назад

I don't find anything over €3500 for a Tudor diver something to be excited about. Weren't they meant to be much more affordable? Also, I find blacked out watches to be cheap looking.

@andrei-cosmin.popa85 3 года назад

wow! Quite amazing! Amazing that they made a diver watch with a bezel you can't really read due to color choice, depth and thickness of those indices. Not only that, but no pip. Thank God it comes with an exhibition case some of us don't care about it, as the back case sits... (surprise, surprise!) on the wrist! What a joker =) Thumbs up for the video!

@watchnut 3 года назад

I asked Tudor via Instagram if they were going to put METAS certified movements in their other models, their response was that ALL of their manufacture movements would qualify for the METAS certification if they chose to test them. I am not a fan of ceramic cases in sport watches, would not feel confident in its impact resistance.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Very interesting! Thank you for this. So they're really going into this guns blazing now...Wow.

@garyboyle695 3 года назад

Just like every other watch company could say they could meet Rolex's self proclaimed superlative chronometer, easy to say, far harder to prove.

@brysoga 3 года назад

I hear your points and accept them all but I just don't like it. I just can't get on board with any of these blacked out peices, to me they are a bit batman/the dark night costume-esque. But look they're not making it for the likes of me, there'll be plenty of people who'll buy it and love it.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

Oh for sure, it can teeter on the edge of being way too "stealth" in appearance. It's the Blackest Black Bay of all ;) I'm more interested to see what comes from this and how brands adapt. If Omega decides to go with a gloss white ceramic case Seamaster... wow... the possibilities....

@styx4947 3 года назад

isn't the Marine Narionale, a military organization? how can you co-brand with an armed organ of the State?

@DavidDatura 3 года назад

This new ceramic watch is a larger chunkier Black Bay variant, not the smaller Black Bay 58 🤷‍♂️ and this is not a proper dive watch anymore, due to the lack of a lumed dive bezel pip.

@MrCheesetastic 3 года назад

I'd be generous in thinking 0.5% of owners dive with their Tudors.

@DavidDatura 3 года назад

@@MrCheesetastic still, it should be true to its tool watch origin and that includes a bezel lume pip. I don’t think it would of spoiled the black out aesthetic that much as the dial indices have normal (not grayed out like in that latest Omega diver) lume.

@Gixer750pilot 2 года назад

Affordable prices ??? 🤔

@johnsmith6961 3 года назад

I wish it did not have faux-patina.

@ID-Guy 3 года назад

It looks to be a very very slight off-white (but I could be wrong) Agree that lots of brands are getting way too heavy with the faux patina now... it feels like this trend is tapering off (hopefully)

@johnsmith6961 3 года назад

@@ID-Guy I find my 58 to work with faux pinata works, your seamaster but nothing much else.