I prefer Netflix style, where they pretend to be the history channel and portray one of Scandanavia's great young white male warriors and leaders Jarl Haakon (kind of their George Washington) as an older black female, and don't change his name or anything, and have the village inexplicably full of even east-asian people. 🤦🏾♀️
@@BoopSnoot Completely agree. I feel empowered by the well thought out dialogue and plots that inspire women and ensure men know their place. I just hope it continues like this until we live in a liberal utopia
In real life, Tsar Peter III abdicated in exchange for safe passage to Holstein-Gottorp, his German principality. Peter would have rather been another German prince than the Tsar of All Russia, which is part of why his Catherine earned so much support for her coup.
That and his desire to change Russia to something more similar to Prussia, and even alliaing with Prussia which was a major shake up in Russian foreignpolicy, made him unpopular. And on top of that many the many domestic reforms that seemed to were designed to make Russia a somewhat more liberal society, including proclaiming religious freedom, abolishing the secret police and outlawing the killing of serfs by their landowners. He also established the first state bank in Russia and encouraged mercantilism by increasing grain exports and placing embargos on materials that could be found in Russia. The somewhat liberal nature and the speed with which he introduced these reforms did not help his popularity as the still highly conservative Russian nobility, church, and to some extent the common people didn't really agree with the reforms especially not with the haste he implemented them. Because of that Catherine could find support from all of those groups to eventually overthrow him.
I think this was the moment she stopped being Princess Sophie of Anhalt-Zerbst and actually became Catherine the Great. At least in this fictitious telling of her story.
She stopped being Sophie after converting to Orthodox Christianity and was given the sobriquet the Great did not become permanent until her grandchildren created an idol out of their grandma to explain away killing their own daddy.
@@barbiquearea 👀 What "state assembly with all the nobles"!? It's not Rzecz Pospolita, or something. There were no such assemblies since mid XVII. She wanted to be called "the Great" and be perceived as the spiritual heir of Peter the Great, but it wasn't happening. One of her short-lived "progressive" projects, a Commission for Legal Reform, suggested a title of "The Great and Wise Mother of Fatherland". It was perceived as such a lame attempt at ass-kissing that she felt compelled to reject it. Not that the commission had any power to grant anything beyond making suggestions.
What a great twist coz in other episode catherine told leo that she wants leo on the other hand and russia on the other. And this scene makes it more sense. What a great turn.
I had a feeling Leo was dead, but for Peter to hand her his head felt like a stab to the heart. She succeeded her goal becoming the Empress of Russia but lost the love of her life at the cost of it.
I gasped so sharply when he so nonchalantly announced he had Leo’s head, I ended up having a choking fit for 5 whole minutes. Seriously, I had to rewind the entire ending and regather myself. One minute you’re filled with joy that he finally abdicated and she won the throne, and the next your heart is shattered at what it cost!
This is always so confusing cuz how does Catherine want Peter romantically after something this traumatizing? Realistically no sane person would lust for their lover’s killer. I’d hate them no matter what they do.
This bothered me about the show also... first time around. The idea that an abusive partner can be mollified by his love for his lady.... dangerous. Second time I watched the show, I started to notice that Catherine subtly changes into Peter: a megalomaniac who abuses her advisors, who in turn blow smoke up her ass as she self-aggrandizes.
@@m8trxd Now that you mention it yeah Catherine was a lot like Peter later on, she even forced sex acts on him. Maybe the shows gonna go on that direction.
It was a clever move naming it "the Great" because now the writers, actors, directors et al. can title themselves "the Great writer/actor/director et c."
As someone who has only watched this show in clips on youtube, I really do find myself curious as to whether Catherine and Peter were ever intimate with one another outside of those form we-must-make-an-heir situations where someone was always hovering around in the room. He seems pretty sure that Catherine would find the prospect of having sex with him tempting, given how awkward those few encounters were.
@@melissalittle2443 i appreciate the reply, but I wasn’t asking if she falls for him-i’ve been watching clips. I was asking if they’d had sex without aunt Elizabeth standing over them to make sure they were doing it right to produce an heir prior to this scene.
@@virgiliustancu9293its not a movie so how can u say its garbage when you’ve clearly never seen it. Also for Russian history this isn’t that absurd lolol, monarchs back then were wacko’s
Episode Summary (Spoilers Included) The Great - season 2, episode 1 The coup has taken place and Catherine is basically the Queen bitch in charge now with Orlo who has glowed up in his clothes, gear and attitude and Velementov who is also looking quite good these days. Catherine, Orlo and Velementov have been looking for Leo but they can’t find him anywhere, Velementov is thinking he's probably dead. Peter and his court have basically taken up one wing of the palace and they're trapped there by Catherine's military. Svenska makes a point that they are trapped and they can't do much, Peter says they're doing OK and that there is a connection to the ground where they can escape to the forest but they send one of many Peter lookalikes and he runs on the field towards the forest and gets shot quickly. Peter manages to escape from his wing to Catherine via the doctor (he was hiding in some massive box on wheels). He shoots Catherine’s guards and is too quick for her too. He says he is getting impatient of waiting for her to change her mind but he still loves her and can’t wait for Paul to come. Catherine has been plotting herself and sends someone to throw molotov bombs at their wing where Archie, Marial, Goergina, Grigor, Svenska and more are… Everyone is in a panic and Velemetov enters with his men shooting others (what happened to avoiding "unnecessary bloodshed"?) and he ends up killing Svenska. Archie decides to stay and hides out in Peter’s room and Marial goes back to Catherine and tells her she saved her as opposed to betrayed her and so they become friends again. Marial tells Archie not to doubt it - this friendship with Catherine is the real deal. Peter, Grigor and Georgina manage to escape and they head off in carriages to some far away building across a little moat, none of them bring food with them, so they end up getting quite hungry. Elizabeth finds Catherine and tells her she will be an excellent ruler and then tells Orlo, who really wants to kill Peter, that Catherine won’t kill Peter and will instead make him abdicate. Catherine tells her there is a chance he will die. Jeanne Pierre goes back and tries to get food for Peter and his company, he’s also got a lot of chokov guards. Catherine spots this and follows them to discover where Peter and his company are. A shootout occurs between the two sides from across the moat and Velementov’s men mostly die. It's unfortunate. Grigor has to listen to Georgina and Peter bang again and so does everyone tbh and things are more complicated than ever cause Peter starts to reveal that Grigor approached him about this, which Grigor didn’t look happy about and Georgina is like “nah I will bang who I wanna bang.” Peter and his company send another Peter lookalike and they shoot him immiedatiely and Peter is like “OMG that could have acc been me, how can she shoot?” He also thinks she secretly loves him and maybe she does a little. Peter's getting hungry and almost eats a rat as Catherine's taunting him with really nice smelling food from across the moat. Through Georgia, Peter negotiatee just wants 20 mins a day with Paul and Cathetine for breakfast. He also ends up asking for a lot of banging but Catherine says “no”. Peter agrees to these terms and signs an abdication document as Grigor and Georgina eat lots of nice food and Peter joins in. Peter then reveals that he has Leo’s head, he asks Grigor to get it. This completely throws Catherine off her high and Orlo announces that Catherine is the new empress of Russia as she is still reeling from the news that Leo is dead whilst holding Leo’s head in her hands. Georgina and Grigor think Peter has lost but he says he has a secret plan and it is gonna be good for him...
I do think that The Great was inspired by all the madness that depicted nobility in the Favourite. Nicholas Hoult was in that one, and their depictions of these emotional rollercoasters, decadent lifestyles and selfishness are such fun to watch. Even with Catherine wishing to be a noble ruler, somehow I doubt that the court of Russia, or indeed anywhere, would allow such nobility to last
Not to be mean but I’m happy that Leo’s dead, his purpose has been served and now we can make way for Peter though it was unintentionally cruel of him lol
Same! If Catherine wants to run Russia she needs Peter because the people will never accept her because she has a delusional vision Peter needs her to outweigh his impulsive decisions, Leo with sweet but he was never meant to last
Gosh, you and the first commenter are in for a rude awakening… Peter didn’t “unintentionally” kill Leo, he did it because Catherine revolted against him and that was the price of her not backing down. If Nicholas hoult wasn’t an attractive actor, you wouldn’t be praising Peter right now.
The writing was brilliant here. When she came there and found her marriage /life to be less than she imagined and desired she became suicidal. She felt she had nothing. Peter was known as a half wit to her but was brilliant here. He gave her something to cherish and love so he had something to take away as a punishment when needed.
I lauggh when give peter the heads of Leo hahahahaha that moment to know the empress to move on his fucking horse power and going move to love peter , the mindset of peter was laugh hahahaha
Ooo, Imperial Russian soap opera with the characters speaking in heavily British accent. Quite amusing. 😁😁😁 Reminded me of a movie titled THE DEATH OF STALIN released in 2017.
Reminds me of something similar with Charles Gordon, AKA Chinese Gordon. After years of war, he negotiated the surrender of the leaders of the Taiping Rebellion and in the deal he promised they would not be executed. Later that day their heads were delivered to him. He ended up sleeping that night with their heads under his bed. I believe he intended to return them to any related parties, but not sure how it actually worked out.
Queen perfume genius. For me I’ve always just googled whatever movie or show with the season and episode number soundtrack and tune find has literally never let me down when I’m looking for any type of song or soundtrack all across the board
Never seen it but judging from this clip it looks funny as hell. Is that bad for a historical series based on true events? Because funny cures a lot of things.
They say outright and promote it as being inaccurate but comedic-focused, thats the point of the show they’re very self-aware which i love. Nothing worse than a pretentious historical show that gets it wrong, nothing better than a show that acknowledges their inaccuracy to focus on just good funny writing, like Death of Stalin. As a history student i rlly respect that sort of filmmaking, its entertainment after all and they dont pretend to be recounting real history
I wouldn't call it 2021, just more British than German, Russian or Turkish aristocracy. Like the Ottoman Sultan's outfit makes him look more like a pirate or a fictionalized faux-realistic(you could tell they ripped this off from the way that Kublai Khan dressed in the netflix show 'Marco Polo') medieval Mongol/Turkic conqueror than a 19th century Turkish Ottoman Sultan. It's like doing a film on Danish Nobility in the early 1900s and then making them all dress up like movie Vikings with horns.
yeah thats how i always thought girls and women act like: trying to be confident and in the charge but half of it is meant of the opposite it actually should mean. but i also tried to be similar like the guy before even knowing this scene but it seems modern women at the age of the woman in this particualr clip are not alike and it seems they really mean the things they say even its sometimes harsher then they maybe actually want to say/mean it, cause i never made a girl i felt attracted to hot in a similar way, wanting more of me. they either don't respond/react which makes the hole thing boring as hell, or they reject you in the rudest and harsh way possible. feeling annoyed and angry even i mean it nice, thoughtful and romantic... maybe i just never had the luck to meet a women like the actress in that clip - yet.
The most interesting thing is what do the Russians think about such mockery and mockery of their real history? I don't know of a single Russian or Soviet film where the Russians would allow themselves such mockery of any historical figure in America and the West. Even their enemies, they show with dignity and realistic. If you want to do a comedy, invent a country. And so this is just one of the options for lying about Russia.
I'm Russian. As you said, this is mockery. Maybe someone thinks it very funny. I think it's just stupid and also disrespectful. I wouldn't watch series in a similar style about any country/nation/period of history or ordinary people. I don't like it.
@@cloverite There are comedies, and many .... But the difficulty is that in Russian comedies the main thing is not the antics of the actors, but the content of the dialogues. At the same time, the difficulty lies in the fact that many dialogues are built on the verge of perception, using analogies known only to Russians. For a foreigner who does not know Russian, this is very difficult. Even with subtitles. An example is a 1965 film with English subtitles. By the way, the actor who plays a hooligan at a construction site fought in World War II and had 18 military orders. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F68bbzOOOdY.html
@@cloverite Sure. Why not? We have a lot of comedy films, shows, etc. But I'm not a fan of comedies in general (with a few exceptions. I like a few of old soviet ones and hollywood). It's just not my genre, regardless of the country of origin or the year of filming, or style. So I can't be completely objective.
Slightly Later that Empire changed the name from Moscovian Tsarstrvo/Kingdom to something weird and stolen from several languages at the same time - Rossia. However the main part of this Ru:s belongs to different people, moreover - at the same time. And now that Kingdom does not have rights to the word Ru:s. No rights as well there is no state and goverment, only Cosa Nostra.
