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@MessLeadingProgramming
@MessLeadingProgramming Год назад
Lesson to learn - if you have one pawn ready to become a queen, don’t wait for 2 more.
@triangle200
@triangle200 Год назад
Fr
@HarleyMaebry
@HarleyMaebry Год назад
Except in situations where getting the queen isn’t possible or would be a bad move for whatever reason. Chess is a crazy game.
@pork43
@pork43 Год назад
@@HarleyMaebry yeah but usually u only need 2 3 is very unlikely
@pinkigamer3534
@pinkigamer3534 Год назад
Me: pushing the side pawns Me: getting a queen 😎 Me: getting checkmated right after
@mofeiyang4587
@mofeiyang4587 Год назад
uhhh
@R.a.t.t.y
@R.a.t.t.y Год назад
That basically combines every weird rule in chess into one puzzle, ie - double pawn first move - En passant - Castling - Promotion and under promotion
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Год назад
Well spotted. The combo of en passant capture, castling and underpromotion is known as the Valladao theme.
@sgtnubbings6501
@sgtnubbings6501 Год назад
Castling with check, no less.
@karyoplasma
@karyoplasma Год назад
Frankly, castling wasn't even on my mind. Maybe because it's so late in the game and I assume that both sides somehow lost their castling rights that far in lol
@drewharrison6433
@drewharrison6433 Год назад
From what we see here, how is anyone supposed to just know that castling is possible? How do we know that the king and rook haven't moved?
@fangzhang9376
@fangzhang9376 Год назад
@@drewharrison6433 It's actually a chess puzzle convention to assume that castling is possible by default, unless it can be proven that it's impossible. Makes things more interesting this way.
@m7mdkady144
@m7mdkady144 Год назад
The real puzzle is how the king and the other rook didn't move while three pawns made their way into the second rank
@ButcherParry
@ButcherParry Год назад
Sanest chess puzzle setup:
@ravirajmayapur
@ravirajmayapur 5 месяцев назад
Lol
@sandal_thong8631
@sandal_thong8631 4 месяца назад
I was just thinking that! I guess puzzles are made-up and never part of a real game.
@user-ej7sr3ow8b
@user-ej7sr3ow8b Год назад
I love the thing that the bishop at c8 is just chilling and watching his king and pawns fight for the king's life
@fisyr
@fisyr Год назад
These puzzles where you have to randomly castle are really wierd. How could I have known, this was still an option?
@meron7700
@meron7700 Год назад
In puzzles you always have to assume you can castle. If it is not allowed, it will be specified.
@user-uw9kr7ph1j
@user-uw9kr7ph1j Год назад
According to the rules of chess composition, if both the king and the rook are on the starting squares, castling is possible unless it can be proven that the position could not arise from the normal starting position without king and/or rooks moving.
@dimitriskontoleon6787
@dimitriskontoleon6787 Год назад
General speaking if King and Rock was on starting possision on puzzle O-O or O-O-O was playable
@HarleyMaebry
@HarleyMaebry Год назад
Same goes for en passant; if the configuration is correct with no other information, assume it’s possible.
@FlourescentPotato
@FlourescentPotato Год назад
Yeah, this type of puzzle is to make people feel smart, more than to learn anything. as soon as i saw underpromotion i rolled my eyes.
@christiansrensen5958
@christiansrensen5958 Год назад
"Imma castle with no pawns on the 2nd rank, in the end game, on move 30-something." Utter madness lol.
@general_alexus2533
@general_alexus2533 Год назад
The castle move is hard to spot because it is not even clear that casteling is still alowed, in a position this late in the game the king or rook most probably moved at some point (and end up at starting squares) making casteling ileagal.
@nomms
@nomms Год назад
In Chess puzzles it's always allowed if the king and the castle are on their starting squares.
@paul_warner
@paul_warner Год назад
This is a puzzle, not a position in the middle of a game
@JMZReview
@JMZReview Год назад
@@nomms that's not true?
@pyology9280
@pyology9280 Год назад
ileagal
@nomms
@nomms Год назад
@@JMZReview That is the case, unless specified in the puzzle.
@JohnDoe-ti2np
@JohnDoe-ti2np Год назад
A Google search says that this problem was composed by Yochanan Afek in 2011. I don't think that RU-vid will allow me to post a link, but try searching for the ARVES chess endgames study association.
@dustinbachstein
@dustinbachstein Год назад
Actually this puzzle shows the so-called "Valladao-Task": an en-passant capture, castling and pawn promotions in the same chess puzzle :)
@nevermind994
@nevermind994 Год назад
please help me reach out to nelson by liking my comment you will find it, because at 5:20, its a draw, you can run it on stockfish, i just randomly saw it, and put it in stockfish, and i want nelson to know so please help
@bdogpimpsause
@bdogpimpsause Год назад
@@nevermind994 who cares if that position is a draw?? White has a winning position, it doesn’t matter if there is a draw somewhere else
@DestructionPOV_
@DestructionPOV_ Год назад
@@bdogpimpsause bro its a month old comment why reply?
@theworldexplained8253
@theworldexplained8253 Год назад
@@bdogpimpsause Stockfish is infamous for ruining chess puzzles.
@ralkadde
@ralkadde Год назад
Great find! This is the so-called Valladão Task, a problem showing promotion, en passant capture and castling. The underpromotion to a knight is a bonus. Btw., I have not found this problem in the known problem databases. Probably someone else will have more luck.
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Год назад
Just to clarify: it's a convention in chess problems that castling is valid unless you can prove it isn't. The convention is made that way round, because, otherwise, problems wouldn't be able to involve castling, because you can't *prove* that castling is valid. In some problems it looks as if black may castle, but something about the position means you can prove that black has lost the right to castle, so white may do something which works, but would fail against castling.
@wernerviehhauser94
@wernerviehhauser94 Год назад
Ah. Hidden castling. I hate those, since you can‘t know if the move is legal.
@egillis214
@egillis214 15 дней назад
This
@chicken_rice0123
@chicken_rice0123 Год назад
The purpose of the bishop on c8 is to prevent quicker checkmates that include Rf5
@emphyriohazzl1510
@emphyriohazzl1510 Год назад
Study by Yochanan Afek from 2011 (a famous israelien chess study composer and also IM as a chess player). He received 3rd commendation for this Valladao theme study (but in his carreer he often got first prizes in many tournaments).
@rpc717
@rpc717 10 месяцев назад
Great composition! It has all of the little tricks that make a puzzle interesting.
@yigalzemach9083
@yigalzemach9083 Год назад
I started with 0-0 as the 1st move, and I still do not see why it does not win. White threatens mate in 3 (g4+, Rh7+, Bg5X), and it seems that after 1....Kg6 2.g4 we are back to the propsded solution (B:g4 does not help). So the interesting defense is 1....f3 2. R:f3+ Kg6 3. Rg3+ Kf5 (3.... Kg6 4. Bg5+ and mates) 4. Rg5+! Kf4 (4....K:f6 5.R5-g7+ Kf5 6. g4+ Kf4 7. Rg-f7+ Bf5 8.R:f5X) 5.f7! letting black to promote 2 queens, but it looks like they can't help, like 5.... c1-Q+ 6.Kh2 b1-Q 7. g3+ Kf3 8. f8-Q+ Bf5 9: R:f5+ with mate, or 5....b1-Q+ 6.Kh2 Qg1+ 7.K:g1a1-Q+ 8.Kh2 Qh8 9.Rg8 and wins. So it looks like the solution is not really unique. Or did I miss something?
@nevermind994
@nevermind994 Год назад
please help me reach out to nelson by liking my comment you will find it, because at 5:20, its a draw, you can run it on stockfish, i just randomly saw it, and put it in stockfish, and i want nelson to know so please help btw thanks for recap
@mr.mystery6429
@mr.mystery6429 Год назад
@@nevermind994 its a draw because white had misplayed, nelson shows that the bishop check is needed.
@mr.mystery6429
@mr.mystery6429 Год назад
Castling first would lose to Be6 and the king would run to e5 and escape.
@BRORIGIN
@BRORIGIN Год назад
Love these types of videos!
@tiagohello
@tiagohello Год назад
Thank you for the amazing video!
@foxtrothermite6499
@foxtrothermite6499 Год назад
I knew that as soon as I saw the white king and rook's position in the thumbnail, that there was going to be a hidden castling move here
@elwoogie1963
@elwoogie1963 Год назад
Hard to plan a move if castling is unknown to be available this late in a game.
@thatonerandomstick3664
@thatonerandomstick3664 Год назад
In puzzles if king and rook are on starting squares it’s always available unless specified
@williamp6483
@williamp6483 Год назад
Thought I was clever for seeing the pawn to g4 forcing en passant but I missed the castle check and never would have gotten the rest of the puzzle lol. Great but very complex
@sushantmondal
@sushantmondal Год назад
Your lessons are the best on RU-vid.
@omaraziz5564
@omaraziz5564 Год назад
en passant is the most obscure move in chess, yet it makes this puzzle so much harder...
@paul_warner
@paul_warner Год назад
The castle was the first thing I spotted, it would've been my first move if I were working through this puzzle myself
@RJSRdg
@RJSRdg Год назад
En passant, castling, and underpromotion! Love it!
@TheSiriusEnigma
@TheSiriusEnigma Год назад
You didn’t forget the “en passant” rule. Pawn to G4. F4 takes G4 by moving to G3. I was very surprised when I learned that rule.
@Soulessnight4
@Soulessnight4 Год назад
Problem though, unless it’s literally the only move you can make en passant is an illegal move to get out of check
@hyzercreek
@hyzercreek Год назад
@@Soulessnight4 False, you can make an en passant to get out of check
@hiwu412
@hiwu412 Год назад
Tip for doing puzzles: A check is usually the answer
@bendover23875
@bendover23875 Год назад
Chess Vibes uploading chess puzzle videos speaks for itself.
@Talare1804
@Talare1804 Год назад
1:37 En Passant:
@Small_Schlonng_9000
@Small_Schlonng_9000 11 месяцев назад
He said it
@julilopbal
@julilopbal 10 месяцев назад
Holy hell!
@ramamoorthysankarappan9297
@ramamoorthysankarappan9297 Год назад
Nelson really found a good study
@boroditsky
@boroditsky Год назад
I feel like the castling was a bit of a cheat, as it seems unlikely that castling would still be possible this late in a game.
@LordMephilis
@LordMephilis Год назад
Pretty good puzzle, like that it uses enpassant, which I have never been able to use in an actual game XD
@wyattmeche2378
@wyattmeche2378 Год назад
Pretty sure I found the solution from the picture Push pawn, opponent queens , you move king, opponent takes rook, you queen mate, but they will probably defend the promotion with the queen
@luuduonghy659
@luuduonghy659 Год назад
At 8:11 the checkmate could still be delayed If the black king move to Kh4 the white queen can try to move Qh6 for check Black queen can blocked Qh5 but the bishop for white will checkmated at Bf5#
@tykemorris
@tykemorris 7 месяцев назад
Wouldn't that be white to Qg4 checkmate?
@BobChess
@BobChess Год назад
In this puzzle, It is very good exam that king safety is the most important. Despite has three extra pawn nearly promote, black lose. Fascinating!
@rishirajbaul3727
@rishirajbaul3727 Год назад
As @TeaInTheMorning4929 pointed out earlier, it is not clear that castling is possible. I have seen puzzles where the king and a rook were on their starting squares with solutions which hinged on proving the fact that castling was not possible. Accordingly, does it not make sense to provide a proof game for the given position to show that this position (with castling allowed) is feasible?
@yogi9631
@yogi9631 Год назад
Superb puzzle as usual 🎉
@mottystone3547
@mottystone3547 Год назад
What's the problem with castling first and then playing g4?
@kidink5307
@kidink5307 Год назад
Anyone else thinking that there is no way that king and rook hasnt move this whole game to even think that castling was an option
@centauria9122
@centauria9122 Год назад
The black bishop could take that pawn, then in line of sight to take out the rook, so the rook would have to move, unless you want to sacrifice your rook, or try to keep black's king in check.
@matperry18
@matperry18 Год назад
I saw that as well, I don’t understand how he stops the video in that position, game’s not over at all.
@dany-marchocke9036
@dany-marchocke9036 11 месяцев назад
Mate in two
@wmbriggz
@wmbriggz 6 месяцев назад
This 76 year old remembers my favorite puzzle where both kings were almost totally locked into their respective back two ranks and the drawing side had to “ match” squares with the side trying to win…. I loved that long lost puzzle.
@williamsmith8640
@williamsmith8640 Год назад
The Greatest Forgotten Chess Puzzle speaks for itself
@stevek2340
@stevek2340 11 месяцев назад
Underpromoting to a knight is subtle - and brilliant!
@TerjeMathisen
@TerjeMathisen Год назад
Since it initially looked impossible, I realized that there had to be a castling move to gain tempo while protecting the king. :-)
@DanielRocha-rn6ii
@DanielRocha-rn6ii Год назад
He didn't mention that the king could castle, that information is crucial and he left it out.
@SG2048-meta
@SG2048-meta Год назад
@@DanielRocha-rn6ii in chess puzzles it is always assumed you can castle unless you obviously can’t or it is specified that you can’t castle
@TerjeMathisen
@TerjeMathisen Год назад
@@DanielRocha-rn6ii I agree 100%, it was just by a process of elimination I decided that it would be impossible without castling.
@BigDBrian
@BigDBrian Год назад
@@DanielRocha-rn6ii He also didn't mention that it wasn't possible. If it were said, it'd give away a crucial move and spoil part of the puzzle.
@KINGCROW54
@KINGCROW54 11 месяцев назад
The purple is wrong 6:20 we can just promote the pawn by pushing it
@Ashrafpary
@Ashrafpary Год назад
End game teaching excellent
@Hysterr
@Hysterr Год назад
I swear I've seen this one too but couldn't tell you where sadly
@hebercluff1665
@hebercluff1665 Год назад
You're part of the reason this is a forgotten puzzle........
@muggs105
@muggs105 Год назад
Move the white peon two spaces up, you check the king, so has to move from f5 to g6, move tower in front of king g7, only place left to move for the king is h6. Peon that moved two spaces finished the deal
@colinmccarty9908
@colinmccarty9908 Год назад
At 6:21 I’d like to explore the black pawn moving to G1 and becoming queen instead of taking the bishop. I’m sure it’s clear but my mind can’t work that far ahead.
@dotwiroh4234
@dotwiroh4234 Год назад
g1?
@dotwiroh4234
@dotwiroh4234 Год назад
if you meant b1 then white pawn just promotes to queen and black cant do anything to stop white next move, laddermate
@Crimsonfireball
@Crimsonfireball Год назад
@@dotwiroh4234 There is another move it's called queen to b6.
@dotwiroh4234
@dotwiroh4234 Год назад
@@Crimsonfireball huh? comment above wanted pawn b1, promote to queen so white just goes f8 to promote their own queen and u want qb6 so white just go qh8 check? how does that help?
@Crimsonfireball
@Crimsonfireball Год назад
@@dotwiroh4234 qb6 is check to white king so the white queen can't check on h8. Or am I missing something here?
@Soulessnight4
@Soulessnight4 Год назад
2:14 so unless it’s the only move you have you can’t en passant out of check.
@bdogpimpsause
@bdogpimpsause Год назад
Wtf are you talking about
@Soulessnight4
@Soulessnight4 Год назад
@@bdogpimpsause sorry, I misunderstood the google search
@Vextrove
@Vextrove Год назад
En passant is forced
@sharifullahzakaria8829
@sharifullahzakaria8829 Год назад
I finally got one of these puzzles right!!!
@nolifeconsolegamer
@nolifeconsolegamer Год назад
1:32 my guess is which should castle to get the rook in like to attack any potential queens. 1:36 en passant... don't need to move the king. Moving the king is a blunder here
@patpatpatzi7089
@patpatpatzi7089 Год назад
Gonna remember this when i get to this position
@centauria9122
@centauria9122 Год назад
Black's bishop: 🍿
@longyiuchen1837
@longyiuchen1837 Год назад
I knew it should become a knight at first glance!
@cosmic_nrg
@cosmic_nrg Год назад
NGL this is the first time I've seen An pasant in action. I've only just heard of it
@derekbaldy4293
@derekbaldy4293 Год назад
I like this dude because he every possible move
@gameworldjt
@gameworldjt Год назад
I actually thought about Qc1 usntead of Bc1 to trade and maybe bishop & rook vs bishop is winning since they're on opposite squares? I guess not though
@outstanding1448
@outstanding1448 Год назад
Yeah, I've seen parts of it, like first three moves I did it just by looking at the picture, then I got confused somewhat.
@dixie1993
@dixie1993 21 день назад
Love the cadtling idea but its hard to know if it isnt stated that the king has never moved
@fantomghost6213
@fantomghost6213 5 месяцев назад
Did not see this one. Got distracted by the pawns and tried to figure out how to stop them...Lol
@ivyyan
@ivyyan Год назад
Man that was insane and interesting
@nevermind994
@nevermind994 Год назад
if you played bg6 at 5:20 black would be forced to take the bishop with the queen and afterwards rxg5 if you make a queen it doesnt help because i will play f8=q+ and i think that is loosing for black. and if bg6 qxg6 rxg6 and kxg6 i think h4+ and maybe h4 is not needed because we can promote to a queen ultimately drawing the position
@nevermind994
@nevermind994 Год назад
i actually now ran it on stockfish and its a draw
@mr.mystery6429
@mr.mystery6429 Год назад
Yeah that is why he needed to play bg5+ before and win
@ReddFPSofficial
@ReddFPSofficial Год назад
This puzzle goes crazy. Good explanation though!
@carolinejoybarnhart3717
@carolinejoybarnhart3717 6 месяцев назад
If castling is available in what's approaching an endgame, it should be stated up front.
@EvansGambitAtomicZangi
@EvansGambitAtomicZangi 8 месяцев назад
The king side castle is dirty. Because, we don't know if it's still available.
@devyishere1
@devyishere1 Год назад
Thing is, if I was white in that position, I would’ve already assumed that I couldn’t castle.
@AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
@AVERYhornyMrDinosaur Год назад
i saw mate in 3 and thought you lost your edge, then on croissant
@stevenhoog1
@stevenhoog1 Год назад
i didn't know castling was an option.
@wexdust
@wexdust Год назад
7:24 , black moves queen to F2, forcing the trade and ultimately wins? Edit: It leads to situation where you have to choose between eating bishop or a pawn with the king, if you eat bishop you will lose and if you eat pawn it leads to draw.
@vdun
@vdun Год назад
How will black ultimately win? If qf2, white queen takes on f2, pawn takes, king takes and now black has 1 bishop and 1 pawn versus white’s bishop, pawn and rook
@wexdust
@wexdust Год назад
@@vdun Yes well that is the thing, after king takes black rook will take the pawn, this leads to draw!
@vdun
@vdun Год назад
@@wexdust How will it lead to a draw? White is up a full rook
@wexdust
@wexdust Год назад
@@vdun I wrote that wrong l wanted to say that black bishop will take the pawn if you take black pawn with the king. However l find the move with the rook, it releases black king unfortunately but it lets you eat black 'would be' queen. This leads to semi king and pawn end game except white pawn cannot promote, it's tricky to get the win but at the end that pawn you made sure survives pins black king and you sacrifice the rook in order to do checkmate.
@mehxd1645
@mehxd1645 Год назад
I'm a bit confused since you said if black queen goes to F2 it would ultimately force a trade but white would still win since its up a rook and when does taking bishop or the pawn come up from?
@futurethinking
@futurethinking 7 месяцев назад
There is a much easier solution, Rock to f5 while bishop is in g5 and king in h5 is the key, you don't need to castle in that position.
@Victor_Gabriele
@Victor_Gabriele Год назад
OMG THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I SAW EVERY BEST MOVE ON A TRICK PUZZLE ON THIS CHANNEL * _ *
@sangeetasonar3937
@sangeetasonar3937 Год назад
You can move 2 to the white paida Or soldier
@ounalan
@ounalan Год назад
g4+ was the pretty obvious 1st move (only move, w/o much thinking actually.) 0-0 was a bit tricky, as we didn't know if it was still an option at such a late point in the game. Once 0-0 was allowed, rest was also pretty obvious, as all moves are more or less forced.
@samuelandry4348
@samuelandry4348 Год назад
I first thought about 0-0 as 1st move and afterwards g4+. It works well if black goes directly for a queen, so the only defence against it might be f3.
@sharpasacueball
@sharpasacueball Год назад
Wow there are so many rules I didn't even know about
@nagirok1
@nagirok1 Год назад
hmm, there seems to be an out for black throught promoting pawn C1 into knight and check on the king
@ancient7716
@ancient7716 Год назад
I saw correctly until castles part which seemed funny at such an endgame scenario
@Stockfish10
@Stockfish10 10 дней назад
Castling in end games are crazy 💀
@David_Crayford
@David_Crayford 11 месяцев назад
I too completely missed the castle. It might help if you saw the game from the beginning, but OTOH you might get distracted by other possible moves.
@TasinDotPlay
@TasinDotPlay Год назад
7:24 has Qc2 forcing queen trade...but still winnable with bishop and rook....
@dentonyoung4314
@dentonyoung4314 Год назад
Very nice puzzle.
@nwstraith
@nwstraith Год назад
That's rather cheesy since it's hard to imagine the king has never moved with that kind of carnage on the board.
@MrTanki4
@MrTanki4 Год назад
At 3:00 how do we know if rook or the king didn't move and we can castle?
@Small_Schlonng_9000
@Small_Schlonng_9000 11 месяцев назад
We don’t
@RoderickEtheria
@RoderickEtheria 5 месяцев назад
But there is no condition in this problem to determine whether either the rook or king for white has moved already. We don't know whether we can castle.
@IAmEric85
@IAmEric85 6 месяцев назад
Wasnt aware the king hasnt move to allow castling.
@brinefilopolski33
@brinefilopolski33 Год назад
i knew you would castle
@inneedofmedication
@inneedofmedication Год назад
What I don't like about the castling situation in a puzzle is you're assuming up to that point in the game the king hasn't been in check already, either of those 2 pieces has moved or castled already. It's a late game situation, so chances are one of those 3 situations probably has happened.
@mr.darkrio1017
@mr.darkrio1017 Год назад
Black and play a draw position at 7:24mins in. Queen to f2. it forces a trade of queens. the line goes white queen f2, pawn f2, king f2, bishop f3.
@mr.mystery6429
@mr.mystery6429 Год назад
Neither bishop can go to f3
@mr.mystery6429
@mr.mystery6429 Год назад
Even after check, then the queen is hanging without the pawn.
@squidja2271
@squidja2271 Год назад
6:12 if you look carefully there's that black bishop that can take down the white pawn then threatening the white rook forcing it to move it's position where it's unguarded by the queen. Then black pawn to a1 forcing the rook to take it down and black getting another queen using the b2 black pawn to take down the rook and getting promoted then forking the rook and check matting the white king without yet getting the pawn promoted to a queen forcing the king to move then black queen taking down the rook and threatening the pawn from promoting
@squidja2271
@squidja2271 Год назад
And white ultimately lose to game
@tykemorris
@tykemorris 7 месяцев назад
He didn't talk about that option but I think I would go ahead and queen my pawn anyway and risk losing my rook. If Bishop takes the pawn, then white Pf8 becomes a queen. Then black Bf1 captures the hanging rook but black is always in check after that and never promotes a pawn. White Qf7 check. Black Kg4. White Bc1 discovered check. If Black Kh3 then White Qh5 checkmate. If Black Kh4 then White Qf4 check, forcing black Kh3 then White Qg4 checkmate. Black did not have 2 moves to spend just getting a rook that wasn't needed for checkmate anyway.
@manikasstudio6836
@manikasstudio6836 Год назад
6:11 (pause and think) A2 Pawn promotes to queen. if you promote your g7 pawn to queen or anything else then black can win because you cant put him in check without saving your king, he can move his queen to a7 delivering a check and if you block with your rook to F2 he can eat the rook with the queen and checkmate you, if you move your king to h1 its checkmate with the bishop to B7 (black wins by checkmate) also if white blocks then queen check with his bishop to E3 then black can simply take the bishop and still checkmate white
@Small_Schlonng_9000
@Small_Schlonng_9000 11 месяцев назад
If bishop to b7 then white can take the pawn
@Small_Schlonng_9000
@Small_Schlonng_9000 11 месяцев назад
And he talked about it
@LudosErgoSum
@LudosErgoSum Год назад
It was unclear that castling was available because it wasn't stated whether King and Rook had moved.
@barrygeistwhite3474
@barrygeistwhite3474 Год назад
If I'm not even registering the moves where he's like "You might be tempted to do this..." does that mean I'm getting better at these or do I just have a different problem now? lol
@ilet3049
@ilet3049 Год назад
Yea, thought about this for like 15 minutes and never considered castling was still legal
@marcelobrunorodrigues7630
@marcelobrunorodrigues7630 Год назад
Great ending!
@michaelmamba1578
@michaelmamba1578 Месяц назад
I’m getting better at these. I actually called most of these moves
@person-ol5uf
@person-ol5uf Год назад
Thanks!
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial Год назад
Thanks, person!
@person-ol5uf
@person-ol5uf Год назад
@@ChessVibesOfficial wait I'm actually so confused I don't have any memory of writing this comment like I remember looking at this vid in the gym then putting my phone in my pocket but I don't think I ever wrote thanks
@ricefarmer7564
@ricefarmer7564 Год назад
on 6:34 what if the queen check the king and a follow up with their bishop?
@fatdollar
@fatdollar 4 месяца назад
Would have had this the first time if I knew that White had Castling available. Might be my fault but I would have assumed castling was not possible this late in the game.
@phoenixarian8513
@phoenixarian8513 Год назад
I said I didn't learn any chess besides the basic rules but this time I found the castling. It is a sudden realize "aren't both of them at their original position?" Yep castling should be considered available unless otherwise specified. But the "en passant checkmate in 1" episode you proposed before is really confusing. How do I know in that puzzle this en passant is available? Or in other words, since the puzzle is always based on real games shouldn't the previous opponent move be stated in the puzzle as well?
@HarleyMaebry
@HarleyMaebry Год назад
Well, Nelson didn’t see that one without looking at the solution, either, so don’t feel too bad. I had mixed feelings about that one because I really dislike puzzles that hinge on hiding the previous move. However, showing that information for that particular puzzle would trivialize it because seeing the pawn move two spaces would draw attention to the en passant solution. So the lesson there is if opposite colored pawns are next to each other on the 4th/5th rank with no other information about them, just go ahead and assume en passant is a possibility.
@JohnDoe-ti2np
@JohnDoe-ti2np Год назад
@@HarleyMaebry Normally, in chess problem composition, the convention is that en passant is allowed only if it can proved, via retrograde analysis, that the previous move was the one that permits the en passant capture. But it's true that that puzzle violates this convention. In fact, the position in that puzzle is illegal (there must have been pawn captures, but all the units are still on the board). Most chess problem composers would consider that puzzle to be flawed, or at least a "joke" problem.
@jackwells8107
@jackwells8107 11 месяцев назад
This is the second time you've done this in a puzzle I've seen. When a game is THIS far along, how are we supposed to know if castling is still possible? Should it just be assumed because they're in the starting positions?
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