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This is the story of the Honda NSR500, the greatest grand prix racebike of all time
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@MrMotorNerd
@MrMotorNerd 6 месяцев назад
Spencer , Lawson , Rainey , Schwantz , Doohan , Gardner ... Thanks for the memories !
@johnbunkoski6671
@johnbunkoski6671 6 месяцев назад
Sir , I could not have said it better my self !!!!!!
@johnb4840
@johnb4840 6 месяцев назад
I remember one particular race where 5 of those 6 you mentioned (before Doohan) all swapped for the lead multiple times, and was the greatest race I ever saw, that I will never forget. I will have to try find it online, but can't remember the name of the track or exact year.
@mamoruchiba3301
@mamoruchiba3301 4 месяца назад
U forgot Rossi. He was the last 2 stroke GP500 champion in a Honda NSR. And Alex Criville the 1999 champion that kind of forgotten.
@supercededman
@supercededman 3 месяца назад
@@johnb4840 I was at the 1989 Aussie GP, and that same sorta thing happened continuously during the race. Add in Niall McKenzie and Randy Mamola, Christian Sarron. Memories. BTW, I was there the next year, too. I think Doohan won.
@ryansta
@ryansta 21 день назад
You forgot Roberts
@resisomaaji5887
@resisomaaji5887 6 месяцев назад
The close firing order on the big bang NSR was meant to provide a break in the power pulse. The power pulse break allowed the rear tire some "rest" to regain traction.
@lonpfrb
@lonpfrb 23 дня назад
Very similar to the WSBK V2 Ducati domination when the pulses gave more rest than the straight four competition..
@SuperP37
@SuperP37 20 дней назад
Doohan actually switched back to the old firing order and started winning bigly. all the electronics is bs...sure cream always rises but free podiums isn't racing
@Muffin_Masher
@Muffin_Masher 5 месяцев назад
the 2 strokes were the GOLDEN days. I remember a feature for TV in Australia where Mick Doohan (retired) and Casey Stoner swapped bikes... Mick was clearly bored on the newer 4 stroke, while Casey was visibly shook, COMPLETELY different animals. Makes you wonder how they even fit their balls in those pants :D
@paulgrey8028
@paulgrey8028 13 дней назад
That's saying something considering that Casey Stoner mastered the Ducati that Rossi could not.
@pauldonnelly7949
@pauldonnelly7949 6 месяцев назад
Not only was the NSR the most blistering bike over the longest time, its still probably one of the most beautiful motorcycles ever made, and its even better with its clothes off!
@bobbyblenio4571
@bobbyblenio4571 6 месяцев назад
Amen🤑🦾🔥🏁
@stk0308
@stk0308 6 месяцев назад
Not more beautiful than the Cagiva C594.
@adrianjohnson6454
@adrianjohnson6454 6 месяцев назад
916?
@Bossman.official
@Bossman.official 6 месяцев назад
@@stk0308 He didnt say it was the most beautiful. Learn to read.
@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436
@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436 6 месяцев назад
longest time? I thought that was the MV Agusta
@michaelfireslider269
@michaelfireslider269 6 месяцев назад
One of my most enduring memories is of watching Kevin Schwantz podium or bust racing style. I remember seeing him on one occasion getting held up by a back-marker. The camera zoomed in as he finally got past on the exit of a turn, back wheel spinning, front wheel in the air and turned round on his bike to give the other guy a certain well known hand gesture to make his feelings clear. To a teenage bike fan the level of skill on display in Moto GP was just awe inspiring.
@stevel6939
@stevel6939 6 месяцев назад
Schwantz was a mad man on a 2 stroke. He stated in an interview how much he loved 2 strokes over 4 strokes. Him and Rainey battling at Suzuka was one of the best races ever IMHO.
@thelman8354
@thelman8354 Месяц назад
@@stevel6939 Many years ago I was standing at the parts counter at a Honda shop and that suzuka race was on their tv. One of the greatest gp battles I have ever seen, I was standing there in awe with my mouth open going these guys are insane. I have tried to find that race on vcr, dvd, youtube, and I cannot find it. I would really like to watch it again.
@juansimon7020
@juansimon7020 Месяц назад
fucq yeah!
@cbcacbca
@cbcacbca 17 дней назад
Barry Sheen did the same gesture to Kenny Roberts at the British Grand Prix when he overtook him. Roberts won that fantastic race, Sheen a very close second.
@williambritton4831
@williambritton4831 14 дней назад
@@cbcacbca Lol yeah that was funny as fuck and made even funnier by Murray Walker saying Sheene was waving at him . ln all fairness to the guy he couldn;t say he was giving him the wanker sign on live tv 😀
@tayzer22
@tayzer22 5 месяцев назад
The Honda Interceptor was when I fell in love with bikes. The full fairing, the colors, and the V-4. Was a beautiful machine.
@HegelsOwl
@HegelsOwl 3 месяца назад
Oh yeah. I'd been a Yammy rider, but that Interceptor made me a Honda fan again, as I'd originally been as a teen on an Elsinore 125.
@Bakura5445
@Bakura5445 Месяц назад
I owned a 3rd generation VFR years ago and regret losing it even now. Very best motorcycle I ever owned.
@kentbergstrom3020
@kentbergstrom3020 5 месяцев назад
The Rainey and Schwantz era was the pinnacle of the motorcycle racing imo.
@user-pi6ro7ye5q
@user-pi6ro7ye5q Месяц назад
Roberts vs. Sheene definitely didn't suck.
@supercededman
@supercededman 20 дней назад
Gardner, Rainey, Doohan, Spencer, Lawson, Mamola ... etc etc. The 80s was the best era of all. And you could probably include Sheene and Roberts at the end of their careers.
@PeterReefman
@PeterReefman 12 дней назад
Dude, you can't just say those two without mentioning the others. At LEAST throw Doohan in there, but c'mon, Gardner, Lawson, etc as well.
@lee4171
@lee4171 6 месяцев назад
The greatest era in racing there ever was or will be. It's not just the machines, the riders weren't under half the media/manufacturer pressures they are now. So the riders then rode wild bikes and lived pretty wild lifestyles. The perfect era for involved, riders and fans. I can still remember the emotion of sitting on the Rothmans NSR500s and NSR250s at the Day of Champions. I knew it was special then. I raced a tuned NS400 triple for 2 seasons, yes I thought I was Spencer and Lawson, but won nothing.
@Odder-Being
@Odder-Being 5 месяцев назад
I love this kind of honesty, cheers mate.
@byronlentz4825
@byronlentz4825 6 месяцев назад
I remember Kenny Roberts on his Yamaha, I was fascinated with his dominance at the time.
@vincedibona4687
@vincedibona4687 6 месяцев назад
Roberts and his protégées were something else. Eddie Lawson and John Kocinski were near-unparalleled in 500 and 250cc bikes, respectively.
@djmerchant
@djmerchant 6 месяцев назад
That was obviously a different era and I LOVE the stories from those days. Like how the engineers would uncrate the bikes from Japan, take a quick look over it, and just immediately start taking a Sawzall to the swingarm without even doing any laps.
@jag2039
@jag2039 6 месяцев назад
Don't forget 😮No Electronic's not even ABS brakes n those were crazy men Hauling Ass on Wild Fast Bikes Super Bikes were Fun to ride on the street also
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 6 месяцев назад
It seemed his biggest problem was whether his tire would last for the full race😅
@CC-xu2yz
@CC-xu2yz Месяц назад
@@johndef5075 Some things never change.
@gf8154
@gf8154 5 месяцев назад
Couldn’t agree more with many of the comments made here. These two strokes were beasts of wonder…and the sound AND smell…!! Such a sensory experience going to these GP’s as a kid. I idolised Spencer and the NSR500. I was at Donington when he came around McLean’s IN THE LEAD!! I totally erupted! This was after more than a year out with wrist issues. Then a lap or two later he pulled, such a shame. That version of the NSR500 was pretty perfect as well, like his 85 bike. Surely anyone who can both the 259 and 500 in the same season with some of those godawful weather conditions in Europe in 85, on two strokes, has to go down as the greatest ever accomplishment in the sport of motorcycle road racing…
@dextert8188
@dextert8188 Месяц назад
The 80's? I watched Kenny Robert's and Yvon Duhamel in the early 70's...now that was raw racing.
@malcolmmitchell6529
@malcolmmitchell6529 23 дня назад
Green meanies!!!!
@Johnnywhamo
@Johnnywhamo 6 месяцев назад
I couldn't agree more with the point that you made about putting today's fastest riders on these old bikes and seeing how they would perform. Back then a 1/4 inch on the throttle was the difference between a brilliant pass.....or ending up highsiding into a rhubarb bush 200' off the track, especially with those TZ 750s, they were insane and the riders were a completely different breed of rider compared to today.
@colb999
@colb999 6 месяцев назад
As an Aussie, I recall GP500 racing well. I worked in TV at the time and got to watch several of the local races either as a tech remotely or at the track I was simply gobsmacked at the ability and fearlessness of these guys. Remember Doohan riding with a broken leg and Gardiner at the first Philip Island? The last race I ever watched as an excited kid was when Rainey crashed out at Misano. It changed for me then both as a fan and a rider and car racer.
@Yoda-em5mt
@Yoda-em5mt 6 месяцев назад
Sorry to correct you but racing was going on at phillip island way way before gardner etc , my old man was racing there before i was born in the sixties .
@essentialmix1606
@essentialmix1606 6 месяцев назад
@@Yoda-em5mt I suspect he meant the first PI MotoGP race ;)
@forddriver8827
@forddriver8827 6 месяцев назад
You'd have thought Yoda would know these things....😉@@essentialmix1606
@johnfitzgerald4456
@johnfitzgerald4456 6 месяцев назад
The guts and commitment these races have is astonishing. Brutality is just a single mistake away. I grew up in the 60's and 70's watching racecars and motorcycles kill almost every weekend. I was a big fan of Jackie Stewart for obvious reasons.
@supercededman
@supercededman 6 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure it was a local station (Ch 7?) who pioneered live on-bike cameras. In fact, I think it was the doomed V-Four four-stroke, and Gardner was riding. Early 80s? I 63 now.
@johnlaw5762
@johnlaw5762 6 месяцев назад
Maybe the bikes of the 2 stroke era were more exciting but to call motogp, especially this season, “boring” is somewhat absurd. It was a great season with numerous winners and close races
@troy45uk
@troy45uk 6 месяцев назад
You have a point - recently saw a video of one of the 500GPs at Hockenheim with Doohan etc riding. He won by over 10s, possibly 17s but can’t recall the exact margin.
@johnlaw5762
@johnlaw5762 6 месяцев назад
@@troy45uk sounds like F1 doesn’t it 😕
@hanstubben
@hanstubben 6 месяцев назад
Nothing beats the sound of some high reving two stroke engines and also the smell is unbeatable. I was lucky to see them race in the late seventies and early eighties at the Assen TT track. Our farm was only 25 miles away from the track.
@billygraham2132
@billygraham2132 5 месяцев назад
Oooh, oooh that smell!
@rcengineer
@rcengineer Месяц назад
Unfortunately I've never experienced that particular variety, though I assume it's similar to the "swarm of angry wasps" noise that nitro & gas RC cars (also 2 stroke) output
@borjastick
@borjastick 6 месяцев назад
I was there, PR manager of Suzuki GB in the early eighties when Sheene came back. I then married into one of those racing families. My then brother in law was Gardner's crew chief and went onto be Schwantz's too. The bikes and the atmosphere of GP racing back then was astonishing. I even wrote a book about those times called Barry Sheene and my part in his downfall.
@forddriver8827
@forddriver8827 6 месяцев назад
Dont bother with the title or author name then.
@middlesiderrider
@middlesiderrider 6 месяцев назад
​@@forddriver8827he stated the title. "Barry Sheene and my part in his downfall" Ian Burgess
@robinmabbott7334
@robinmabbott7334 6 месяцев назад
Oooooo good for you
@Miwna
@Miwna 6 месяцев назад
I've always liked cars more than bikes. But when I was about 12 years or so I built a plastic model of an NSR250 or 500 and I've loved that era of motorcycles ever since.
@adrianlovic6486
@adrianlovic6486 Месяц назад
Cool )
@niceguy91320
@niceguy91320 6 месяцев назад
The Smokers were awesome to watch. So much could happen within a race & they were always on the edge. MotoGP today is a snooze fest where 1 or 2 bikes checkout and the race is over on lap 3.
@brandonm8901
@brandonm8901 6 месяцев назад
Saying MotoGP is boring and there is little passing is a WILD take. Definitely agree that Moto3 has the most exciting racing right now, but MotoGP is as close and competitive as it has ever been
@peacefulwarrior4078
@peacefulwarrior4078 6 месяцев назад
Its a damn shame that honda has forgotten its world wide history making two strokes ! Motocross &Road racing Honda CR-500 - best Motocross engine ever made
@MotoHikes
@MotoHikes 6 месяцев назад
One of my mates is currently rebuilding his NSR125. Only been down a few months but before it was it was an absolute rocket. 100mph on a 125 is insane. Not surprised it's big brother has the reputation it does
@husseltoo
@husseltoo 6 месяцев назад
Any 250cc Race bike from the 90's would put a liter bike to shame, even when we had R1's coming out the 250 GP bikes where a different beast altogether. Now, the likes of the Rainey, Schwantz, Doohan, Lawson et al were indeed a different breed, the NSR V2 was the beast from hell but which 2 stroke 500cc GP bike wasn't?
@va7entino46
@va7entino46 6 месяцев назад
I also have a 96 NSR125 , crazy bike , im rebuilding it currently , crazy thing 180kmh on a 125cc
@husseltoo
@husseltoo 6 месяцев назад
@@va7entino46 Not going to brag too much but I had a tzr50 with an 80cc engine that did 150km/h
@vincedibona4687
@vincedibona4687 6 месяцев назад
Gear that sucker right and you can see 120 - just have a LOT of space. 😃
@literallyhuman5990
@literallyhuman5990 6 месяцев назад
I remember my dad owned an NSR250 (The street version) when I was still a baby and it's still the wildest bike He ever had. I really want to get one so he can have the nostalgia with it but finding one that at least doesn't cost the same as brand new YZ450F is hard enough these days
@KHANAGE1311
@KHANAGE1311 6 месяцев назад
When it comes to motorcycle racing, Mick Doohan is the King of Kings. Nobody else could drift a 2 stroke like Mick! 🏆
@rogerchtarponne4968
@rogerchtarponne4968 5 месяцев назад
I’m a huge Doohan fan. But i always wonder what if Schwantz had something else than the Suzuki, who was far behind the others bikes.
@KHANAGE1311
@KHANAGE1311 5 месяцев назад
@@rogerchtarponne4968 He was a beast! He was the Wheelie King. 💪 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NqlMYf6md_8.htmlsi=pfPEj_Xj_lt3RyxM
@pietervanbreda4360
@pietervanbreda4360 29 дней назад
Side ways Randy Mimola could also
@gerrybailey447
@gerrybailey447 6 дней назад
Gary McCoy could give him a run for his money as could Freddie Spencer.
@larrys.3992
@larrys.3992 6 месяцев назад
Attending Moto GP at Laguna Seca from the beginning to the end. I seen some fantastic racing and lots of changes. I feel fortunate to live 4 hours away. Good memories!
@bobbyblenio4571
@bobbyblenio4571 6 месяцев назад
I went to one in the late 80s & one in early 2010s …Complete Difference in Bikes
@larrys.3992
@larrys.3992 6 месяцев назад
@@bobbyblenio4571 Indeed! Number of years ago at Laguna Seca. They had demonstration race of electric bikes. I said then to a friend. That is the future!
@jamesadams2334
@jamesadams2334 6 месяцев назад
nope, electric will kill the sport........5X as boring as Moto GP.@@larrys.3992
@Angel-wo8gv
@Angel-wo8gv 6 месяцев назад
9:27 they were actually OVER 200hp. They got dynoed at Jerez in '98 and somehow the press got access to the numbers, they were published in a spanish motorbike magazine. I remember and the Yamaha put out 203hp, the Honda 207hp. And with 135kg of weight. Insane.
@forddriver8827
@forddriver8827 6 месяцев назад
Few mastered 2 stroke like Joey Dunlop & Mick Doohan keeping in mind the tracks & road racing courses called for fearless commitment knowing an accident will be life changing or worse. I appreciate there are many other riders, Agostini and Hailwood come to mind, who also dominated two-wheel racing at various times, but I am an Irishman who calls Australia home so Joey & Mick it is for me. Shout out to Casey Stoner who is another story and period of racing all together.
@gatofuji7410
@gatofuji7410 6 месяцев назад
Saarinen the forgotten hero...
@daverson8609
@daverson8609 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, Wayne Gardner rode like a complete girl when he became World Champion. Edjit.
@gcrain464Crain-rd6hf
@gcrain464Crain-rd6hf Месяц назад
Yer Maun #3 indeed !
@patterisepi
@patterisepi 6 месяцев назад
It is quite sad that 2-t is gone. I still dream of owning a RG500 or RD500. One of these days...
@sircharles7323
@sircharles7323 6 месяцев назад
Yes, these two bikes in the garage 😍
@mickritchie1815
@mickritchie1815 6 месяцев назад
Need deep pockets ! 25000 each these days. If you can find one that wasn’t crashed or blown to bits. Best bikes ever though
@BobbyOfEarth
@BobbyOfEarth 6 месяцев назад
My first AMA Superbike race came during the 1984 AMA National at Laguna Seca, scheduled just after the 1984 Belgian Grand Prix. This National event was during the MotoGp summer break, when Roberts rode his Yamaha OW69, Randy Mamola on is Gamma RG500, Mike Baldwin riding the HRC F1 bike and Freddy Spencer on the year old NS500. Spencer crashed during practice, but the F1 race was highlighted by the other riders pulling wheelies while exiting turns 1 thru 3, lap after lap, and of course Roberts was doing wheelies thru the corkscrew, which he did during the combined Superbike/F1 practice sessions. It was an event to remember.
@sircharles7323
@sircharles7323 6 месяцев назад
@@BobbyOfEarth Yeah, wheelies, nowadays they have anti wheelie system, what a shame, this was so nice to watch, wheelies during the race.
@chrisdickinson7949
@chrisdickinson7949 6 месяцев назад
I had the RG500 while still on my P plates back in the late 80's & 90's I up graded from an RD350 LC that was so tame in comparison I still have the RG but its crashed with front end damage ( not my fault )& I have a hip replacement But WORTH IT !
@fjp3305
@fjp3305 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree, MotoGP has become boring. I even fall asleep sometimes watching the race. Now you can see more than 15 riders within one second on Saturday's qualifying.
@bartmotorcycle
@bartmotorcycle 6 месяцев назад
Same, Moto3 is 10x better to watch
@fjp3305
@fjp3305 Месяц назад
@RobertJohnson-nx3fo Because a few years back, and especially with the 500 cc bikes, the bikes were more difficult to ride and you can differentiate better the great riders from the good riders.
@seasalt3598
@seasalt3598 6 месяцев назад
"So little passing in motogp" *cries in f1 fan*
@TokyoCraftsman
@TokyoCraftsman 4 дня назад
I had a 1985 Honda NS400R in Rothmans livery, god I loved that bike!
@nikiandre6998
@nikiandre6998 6 месяцев назад
Today MotoGP is not worse than "the good old days" races. It is just different. But is is still breathtaking action with shoulder-to-shoulder fighting on tracks with speeds, what were only in dreams in 80-s and 90-s. And i am not touching safety side.
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 6 месяцев назад
My first time going to the local dragstrip was in 1966, and it is 1/8 mile, the bikes that were winning were Triumphs, I started riding motorcycles in the 60s and some were very fast, all you needed were balls & brakes, there were no electric Rider modes ect...just the ignition switch and the spark plugs, my 6th motorcycle when I was 14 years old was a Kawasaki H-1, all my friends said I would be dead in a week, Nope!! subbed 🏍
@gcrain464Crain-rd6hf
@gcrain464Crain-rd6hf Месяц назад
Both of my older brothers had H1s. Me & my twin had RDs.
@bill-nn1vp
@bill-nn1vp 5 месяцев назад
yes ..remember these guys and dont forget fast freddie .. love those 2 strokes!!
@donlynch8285
@donlynch8285 6 месяцев назад
MotoGP has been the closest it has ever been. In the 80s the gap between the first two even went up to one minute. So yeah, it's a perspective thing
@jamesadams2334
@jamesadams2334 6 месяцев назад
........and too boring to watch!
@donlynch8285
@donlynch8285 6 месяцев назад
@@jamesadams2334 Must be some modern definition of boredom.
@mintgoldheart6126
@mintgoldheart6126 6 месяцев назад
​@@donlynch8285 Don't bother arguing with nostalgia addicts.
@user-in2fw1xn8n
@user-in2fw1xn8n 3 месяца назад
@@jamesadams2334 then don't watch it. it doesn't need you and your disingenuous and missinformed criticism.
@zyzzyx3160
@zyzzyx3160 Месяц назад
Yes, it is close, since riders matter less than machines these days. Moto GP is going the way of F1. Back then rider skill was very important. These days it is all about tuning the traction control and aero. One racing series that is still exciting is BSB. You never know who will come out in top, week in and week out. And I chalk that up to lack of TC.
@MrSheymie
@MrSheymie 6 месяцев назад
Followed the 125, 25 & 500cc 2-stroke racng back in the day. I rode small 2-stroke street bikes, so I loved the 125cc races in particular. Incredible max speeds (of 145mph from the race 125's) and fantastic tight racing.
@gcrain464Crain-rd6hf
@gcrain464Crain-rd6hf Месяц назад
My first street bike was RD 125 twin 2 stroke . Fun bike
@MrSheymie
@MrSheymie Месяц назад
@@gcrain464Crain-rd6hf Had a White and blue one. Loved that bike.
@jasyamaha
@jasyamaha 6 месяцев назад
I was a teenager throughout the 80's and a die hard GP fan, 80's and 90's racing was so engaging, I never missed a race on tv or at Phillip Island. I road a Yamaha RZ500 and I even managed to convince my girlfriend to get on the back of that little rocket a few times.
@r6h255
@r6h255 6 месяцев назад
Rothmans livery is a legend
@vkartikv
@vkartikv 6 месяцев назад
Those drag races between the Aussies and Americans at hockenheim are still fresh in my mind. I wish I could’ve seen vale race these guys from the 80s and early 90s. And Sheene as well
@VWPirates
@VWPirates 6 месяцев назад
Fall asleep during the 2023 season? The two strokes were amazing, i still ride one, but the current racing with the sprints are very entertaining. If you are a Jack Miller supporter then I understand but man the current racing is wild!
@blakedavies9703
@blakedavies9703 5 месяцев назад
The intro to this video kinda cracked me up, as an f1 fan it was completely identical to how people speak about modern f1, worse racing machines that are too aerodynamically focused to create a good spectacle etc etc etc. And the ending was the same aswell just like in f1 the advancements are so minuscule now it seems impossible to create something capable of dethroning the kings of the past but that sentiment is the same in every sport until one day the right machine comes around and just so happens to be paired with the right driver/rider and boom utter domination. Sure theres not the 1s a lap difference in performance between machines which is what makes the utterly dominant riders/drivers so amazing the consistency and the level at which they perform week in week out is just mind blowing.
@michaeltb1358
@michaeltb1358 6 месяцев назад
The Isle of Man TT is never boring. Traditionally Honda used to start planning for these races a full year ahead.
@MrAckers75
@MrAckers75 6 месяцев назад
Valentino’s last 500cc win was on a bike with 168hp and that was considerably lower than a wsbk at the time. There’s absolutely zero chance a 1000cc 4 stroke with 300hp would be rideable without electronic aids.
@StefanMedici
@StefanMedici 6 месяцев назад
Indeed. In fact all the old riders have said exactly the same thing when discussing the modern bikes.
@hillclimbracingfan5821
@hillclimbracingfan5821 6 месяцев назад
@@StefanMedici With that in mind i don't understand why those that say to remove electronic aids are yapping about.
@teresagreene1821
@teresagreene1821 Месяц назад
@@StefanMedici Hmm! Quite, though I wonder if Messrs., Hailwood or Sheene would've given them a go?
@WOLFIE-96B-UK
@WOLFIE-96B-UK 6 месяцев назад
To me, once the 500 two strokes stopped racing and the characters that tamed them retired, Moto GP as it was renamed, became boring. As an annual visitor to the Isle of Man TT and the North West 200, I'm guaranteed excitement and real men riding on the edge!
@aural_supremacy
@aural_supremacy 6 месяцев назад
I don’t know about every rider but I know Mick Dooan the Australian who rode for Honda broke every bone in his body which ultimately led to his retirement and he isn’t the only one, a big price to pay just so people aren’t too bored, Isle of Man TT will be banned eventually in fact all combustion engine racing will probably be phased out I’m not saying I agree with that but if the governments are going to virtue signal about emissions racing should be the first to go because it’s totally unnecessary.
@chuckratkay43
@chuckratkay43 6 месяцев назад
I'm going to my 1st IoM race in 2024! And I kinda stopped watching MotoGP when Rossi retired.
@MickH60
@MickH60 6 месяцев назад
@@aural_supremacy Stopping pollution isn't virtue signalling mate, if you think it is , educate yourself. Everything changes eventually...
@jackaroyan2451
@jackaroyan2451 6 месяцев назад
Agree .
@jonesy77777
@jonesy77777 6 месяцев назад
Youve missed 20 years of spectacular rivavlries, racing, legends. Gotta get out of the past, you are missing the present. Rossi/Biaggi was far greater than sheene/roberts. Rossi is the greatest in racing history.
@1pfuller
@1pfuller 6 месяцев назад
It's winter where i live but this video inspired me to go for a really chilly ride on my Honda
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 6 месяцев назад
You meet the nicest people on a Honda!
@beborodner930
@beborodner930 6 месяцев назад
Thank you Bart for helping me get through winter in upstate NY. Your documentaries are some of my favorites!!!
@excursion1141
@excursion1141 6 месяцев назад
Way to completely ignore the most dominating forerunner and all-time benchmark - the Yamaha TZ750 which made more power than any of these in it's original form and was completely unrideable except in the hands of King Kenny (his bike was detuned even) because tire, frame, braking, and suspension technology was not up to the ability of this engine.
@chrisstephens6194
@chrisstephens6194 6 месяцев назад
There's no way a tz750 made more power than the last of the 500s
@philipgreensmith1694
@philipgreensmith1694 Месяц назад
Not a 500. Superbike and Not a chance It would beat a 500 gp bike on the same track with same rider!
@winstonsmith8240
@winstonsmith8240 4 месяца назад
Those high sides were gut wrenching, but the racing was... well,...exiting! Rossi got the tail end and said it was the scariest, and most incredible bike he ever rode.
@josvandencamp8441
@josvandencamp8441 6 месяцев назад
For me it began in the 1960's. Great bikes.
@freechocolate
@freechocolate 3 месяца назад
My uncle raced and gave me his practice 1992 YZR500 in 1995 when I was 16. It was insane. You literally had to be given a blessing from Jesus to hold onto it, even though mine was detuned to be a club racer.
@stephenwilliams926
@stephenwilliams926 6 месяцев назад
BSB best series to watch at the moment and Road Racing and the TT.
@bazzingabomb
@bazzingabomb Месяц назад
2 strokes never die......long live the stink wheel. My weapon of choice was the RG Gamma i had 2 they were brutal but so much fun.
@mrsmith4662
@mrsmith4662 6 месяцев назад
All very true, but I fondly look back at the huge rivalry between Suzuki and Yamaha on square four and straight four twostrokes riden by Sheene and Roberts in the late 70's.
@captainsensible298
@captainsensible298 6 месяцев назад
You left out the guys with the EXTREME-size testicles. The most AWESOME race bike of the two-stroke era was Yam OW69, 690cc square four rotary disk valve two-stroke that won Daytona by such a big margin they were outlawed. In the same vein the Yam TZ750, Suzuki TR750, Kawasaki KR750, all big fire-breathing two strokes. I was at a race in 1984 at Mt Panorama in NSW Australia and watched lap after lap as pilot Michael Dowson opened the taps of the Pittmans TZ 750 on the 3km straight while I stood trackside on a cutting in a hillside about 2 meters high about 2/3 down the straight. Every lap Michaels TZ was airborne way over my 1.8meter height standing 2 meters above the track for at least 30 meters. The Formula 750 bikes made the 500s look like kids' toys. They shredded tyres and at the height of their development were pushing 180hp weighing around 150kg. The best thing was ANYONE could buy one, in 1977 they were about $3500, when the 750 roady was about $1200. They are still WILD motorcycles.
@NZCycletherapy
@NZCycletherapy 6 месяцев назад
Awesome vid man, great journalism. I remember those days, Kevin Schwartz being the first to slide the front as well as the rear wheel. Wouldn’t you love to have one of those in your garage 😜
@shidoshi777
@shidoshi777 5 месяцев назад
I raced against Schwantz in an 8 hour endurance race at TWS. If you know you know. The man was insanely accurate, left me holding my hotdog in turn 10. Him and Blake were getting ready for the Suzuka in Japan. for the record his team came in fourth!
@gcrain464Crain-rd6hf
@gcrain464Crain-rd6hf Месяц назад
You raced with My friends Ronnie Lunsford ( R.I.P. ) Mark Campise , & Rusty Allen . Schwantz was one the greatest. It’s a shame TWS is gone now. I did one of the final track days there in 2017 on my 94 F2 .
@jeevanchaukar
@jeevanchaukar 6 месяцев назад
Those old 2-strokes were CRAZY! The riders were crazier who still managed to master the riding such difficult and ultra powerful machines with absolutely no electronic riding aid! I am lucky to have witnessed the rise and rise of Mick Doohan - he was so talented that he could qualify in almost any position on the grid and still make it to the podium - mostly the top one! For me, Mick Doohan was one Aussie whom I liked more than Shane Warne (the GOD of CRICKET from Australia!!) - and that's really something special!! He was the one who managed to master both the big-bangs and screamers! Rossi is revered by a large number of people also because he was one guy who could successfully transition from the 2-stroke era to the 4-stroke era and still became Champion..That was no easy feat...
@md.shaonprinceshuvo5412
@md.shaonprinceshuvo5412 6 месяцев назад
Rossi in his prime is out of this world... People say marquz is crazy but Rossi was twice talented and crazy in his prime than marquz ever was... That's why Rossi is greatest ever
@user-rv2zj8zu5b
@user-rv2zj8zu5b 6 месяцев назад
Great video! Very informative and well researched. Boy do I miss those two strokes.
@danstewart8218
@danstewart8218 6 месяцев назад
Hey Bart thanks for the video, amazing memories...;D It would be worthwhile doing a short on the crazy research and development bikes that Ron Haslem was riding for the Elf Honda program. He was an absolute Boss, and was still placing 10-15th each week on a bike that came from outer space that was different each week. Cheers!
@gregstretton8584
@gregstretton8584 6 месяцев назад
100% agree with you, Moto 3 is just brilliant.
@davescorneroftheworld1147
@davescorneroftheworld1147 6 месяцев назад
Love your videos!! SUPPER glad to see you hit 101K subscribers. Very happy for you!!
@2smoker64
@2smoker64 6 месяцев назад
Both GP and MX was so much more interesting in the 2T era
@brucegoldsmith3721
@brucegoldsmith3721 6 месяцев назад
I really enjoy your videos, very informative and interesting! Keep 'em coming.
@hmarci
@hmarci 6 месяцев назад
Interesting video once again, I love your channel bart, and I know it's all about the nostalgia for a mainly elder audience. However the bashing of today's racing is completely unwarranted. The "good old days" are still here my friend. There are overtakes constantly in MotoGP, and there are 7 or 8 race winners in a season nowadays. Just because most of them are on Ducatis, the races are still epic to watch! Don't forget that in the magical 90s Doohan won 5 years in a row - what's more boring than knowing the winner ahead of time? (Case in point: F1) Having electronic aids just means they are even closer to the edge every time, and they are riding a LOT faster. To say they would be bad on an old bike is absolutely ridiculous... Of course they would be if they've never ridden one. Do you think Schwantz could ride with his bloody shoulder scraping on the ground like today's riders? You know what, he probably could. He could adapt to whatever is possible at the time, just like Pecco or Martin could adapt.
@cadman1973
@cadman1973 6 месяцев назад
Nah. MotoGP is a yawnfest compared to the 500s. I stopped watching when the 2-strokes were constructively phased out.
@hmarci
@hmarci 6 месяцев назад
@@cadman1973 if you stopped watching, how do you know?
@RC-Hotdog
@RC-Hotdog 6 месяцев назад
@@hmarciglad you said this 😅. You couldn’t be more right. There has never been more different race winners and the field has never been so close. Just look at qualifying times from back then to now
@MrMotorNerd
@MrMotorNerd 6 месяцев назад
The 500cc era was all about throttle control and was considered the " wild rodeo " of modern times . Gardner once famously smirked and said " you give it just the slightest bit more ,to go faster and it sent you to the moon " while twisting his right hand subconscious ly on TV .... They knew the consequences of that all to well . They were " Hair Trigger " machines that were 130 kgs , no electronics or aero . Pure ability or it spat you off in a heartbeat .
@cadman1973
@cadman1973 6 месяцев назад
@@hmarciBecause I watched it long enough to know it was boring.
@PoweredbyRobots
@PoweredbyRobots 6 месяцев назад
BSB... No traction or wheelie control, great racing
@DeanAWhite-gr8eo
@DeanAWhite-gr8eo Месяц назад
REAL racing!
@SkarTisu
@SkarTisu 6 месяцев назад
It’s fun to see guys my age (50s) panning modern racing simply because it’s different than what they watched when they were in their 20s. Today’s riders can’t ride? I don’t recall ever seeing Doohan, Rainey, Spencer, or Schwantz get their elbows on the deck after backing their bikes in, putting their rear tire back on the ground from braking AFTER they started turning. You think there are too many electronics on today’s bikes? Then bikes from the 80s should have only been carbureted, used bias ply tires, and had no fairings on them. If you think racing got boring after the 90s, go watch a replay of the 2006 Portuguese Grand Prix. You don’t like Ducati’s current dominance? Take a look at Honda’s 1997 season.
@TheSacuLlp
@TheSacuLlp Месяц назад
I would agree for most of the last seasons in MotoGP but tbh I really enjoyed 2023 and 2024 so far and I am fairly satisfied with the number of overtakes
@punchbuggyyellow7097
@punchbuggyyellow7097 6 месяцев назад
I have fond memories from the early 90's of spending evenings watching the MotoGP live with friends then hopping on our RG & RZ 250's for a blast around the streets. It was an incredible period where you could buy a cheap street legal version of what they used to race in the 250 GP & have fun with friends. I can't see people in their 20's doing the same today. Who's got the money for a Panigale these days?
@notyaavridge2660
@notyaavridge2660 5 месяцев назад
I owned an NSR400 TRIPLE , in nsw,Australia. It was by far one of the quickest excellerating bikes ive ridden.
@user-wl9wq7xj7i
@user-wl9wq7xj7i 6 месяцев назад
I attended all 3 500gp races in South Africa back in the 80s at the old Kyalami circuit and remember Freddie crashing when his NSR500 carbon fibre rear wheel collapsed on him during practise. Spectators took pieces of the wheel for keepsakes and there was a request on the PA to return them as it was such new tech the Honda guys wanted the pieces for investigation..
@RatBike750
@RatBike750 6 месяцев назад
Great video! One comment: I remember the Big Bang engine being touted as slightly less horsepower, but much more ridable. The tire was more likely to grip than to spin up and cause a high side, which also meant a wider usable powerband. At least that's how I remember it explained in the magazines and/or race commentary.
@marcustaylor670
@marcustaylor670 5 месяцев назад
Mick Doohan refused to use that engine as he said he wouldn't change while he was still winning. He also knew being able to use the screamer effectively with his manual clutch / rear brake traction control system gave him an advantage. Those bikes also suffered understeer which is why he would stand it up and smoke the tyre out of some corners. Casey Stoners 2007 800cc was the closest thing since to an NSR500 screamer.
@donsmith3573
@donsmith3573 6 месяцев назад
I remember going to a moto go in the seventies at Assen in Holland and will never forget the screaming sound of the two strokes, and as a bonus a demo of a benelli six with special exhaust going around the track, great times
@b12kult
@b12kult 6 месяцев назад
I can clearly remember the dominance of Freddy Spencer at the 1985 Grand Prix at Spa-Francorchamps
@Davidkxf
@Davidkxf Месяц назад
I remember watching him at Kyalami in wonder.
@b12kult
@b12kult Месяц назад
@@Davidkxf Yes, he was in another league
@fuelerr
@fuelerr Месяц назад
Nice video. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make it.
@jamespegram8843
@jamespegram8843 6 месяцев назад
Feel sorry for modern young riders who may never experience the power and feel of a last of the line two strokes. Leaving aside the 200bhp 500cc gp bikes, the last of the 250cc road bikes like the rgv 250 Suzuki and tzr 250 vee twins could put 750 and 1000cc bikes in the shade , having raced 250 cc based road bikes they couldn't catch big bikes on acceleration but could catch them on deceleration and higher corner speed. It was a real art keeping a 2 stroke up in is power band. . No electronic launch control, wheeley control. Ride modes , just the dubious connection of brain and right wrist..
@user-in2fw1xn8n
@user-in2fw1xn8n 3 месяца назад
Do you feel sorry that you didn't have to manually advance you timing? Do you feel sorry that you didn't have to deal with a total loss oil system? Get over yourself and your generation the world has moved on and it isn't going to die with you.
@robertmaitland09
@robertmaitland09 6 месяцев назад
Oof caught a glimpse of the Cagiva, now that’s a bike to do a video on.
@jfu5222
@jfu5222 6 месяцев назад
In 1986 I first heard, then saw a Honda NSR400R screaming through the cobblestone streets of Rothenberg W. Germany. It's an instant in time I'll never forget. I aways watch Moto3 first eventually I get around to the MotoGP race, Brad Binder on the KTM is still a hoot. I liked that you showed the Colombian rookie David Alonso when mentioning Moto3, the most exciting rider on two wheels!
@cadman1973
@cadman1973 6 месяцев назад
No such thing and an NSR400R. There's an NS400R though.
@jfu5222
@jfu5222 6 месяцев назад
@@cadman1973 Very well, I can't be held responsible for how many Rs Honda uses in it's nomenclature.
@cadman1973
@cadman1973 6 месяцев назад
@@jfu5222 The NS400R and NS500, like the MVX250 which you've probably never encountered, are V3s, while the NSR500 is a V4.
@jfu5222
@jfu5222 6 месяцев назад
@@cadman1973 I have seen the Honda V-3 400 in Europe and at home in Minnesota, there are a few grey imports out of Canada. A friend had an NS400R, but that was years ago. I don't recall seeing an NS500, but there are a couple of Suzuki 500 Gamma square fours in town.
@cadman1973
@cadman1973 5 месяцев назад
@@jfu5222The NS500 was race only.
@jameshisself9324
@jameshisself9324 6 месяцев назад
The YZR500 was first with most of the innovations you are crediting to the NSR, and if not for all of the fast riders (mostly American) retiring by 1994 Doohan and the NSR would not have been anywhere near as dominant. If you look at the results over the years it was back and forth Yamaha and Honda with Yamaha dominating from 78 until the ping pong started in 83. If you lift out Doohan's dominance over a weak field for those 5 seasons it is a very close back and forth matchup, which is really the reason for so much exciting racing of that era. Both brands were really in it to win it with a real chance and it shows in the intense fighting. Add in Schwantz as the Suzuki wildcard and it makes for an era of the best racing ever on 2 wheels.
@24secondsperframe68
@24secondsperframe68 6 месяцев назад
Came here to mention the Yam, which is conspicuous in it's absence from this video, But you got it covered...
@ivanjulian2532
@ivanjulian2532 6 месяцев назад
Woulda coulda shoulda.
@jameshisself9324
@jameshisself9324 6 месяцев назад
@@ivanjulian2532 Wow! Are you always this ignorant? You might want to study up a bit, because history shows that the NSR did the woulda coulda shoulda for most of it's history. If you had just bothered to read a little bit. It helps your brain. I promise. Winning 10 out of 26 titles is not exactly domination when it's either you or one other brand for most of that time. You see how that works? Plus the 'NSR500' was just a label on a machine that was completely reinvented every few years. But you knew that already. Right?
@codeboy_henry
@codeboy_henry 6 месяцев назад
Good post, very true.
@jakahl1470
@jakahl1470 6 месяцев назад
I have been watching motorcycle racing all my life, since the early seventies anyway, I grew up watching Kenny Roberts, Barry Sheene, and all the MotoGP since then. The 500's were awesome! But often one rider won by half a lap, and the field was very spread out at the end of the race. Remember the Doohan title years? Anyway, I have to disagree with you that the current racing is boring. I don't like one manufacturer being so dominant, but that will get sorted out. I liked the pre-winglet and no lowering era better than now, but it's about enjoying it the way it is, not being upset about the way it isn't. Also, flat-track racing is amazing. Maybe you need to watch it sometime.
@jamesadams2334
@jamesadams2334 6 месяцев назад
MotoGP IS boring! Stopped watching almost 20 years ago.
@hosac99
@hosac99 6 месяцев назад
Agreed,Motogp is exciting as ever, Honda fans upset that ducati is dominating field so they moan
@denniscook390
@denniscook390 Месяц назад
Me too but since the mid sixties when I also bought my first bike, the first thing I ever bought from money I earned. I was 14. I just watched the 2024 GP at Jerez and man what a race and what finish, anyone who finds that boring needs to wake up.
@denniscook390
@denniscook390 Месяц назад
@@jamesadams2334 So if you haven't watched it for 20 years how do know it's boring? Have you just made a decision based on what you hear and read rather than what you see?
@ryanellis120
@ryanellis120 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. There is a nostalgic remembrance for the 2 stroke era. I’m 35 and it’s mostly before my time but the energy when it’s talked about is a huge draw card. Doohan and gardnier are hero’s of my fellow Australians. Even the second hand market for 2T in Australia is bonkers but that won’t stop me buying one to love and own. Love your stuff mate. Keep it up 👍
@cramersclassics
@cramersclassics Месяц назад
Excellent video Bart. Great racing and technical scenes with detailed, quality narration. Until your video I thought the Suzuki Gamma 500 held this crown Keep up the good work!
@kickstartonly2527
@kickstartonly2527 6 месяцев назад
This is an awesome video, well done 👌🏽 and thanks for posting!
@noahhume9743
@noahhume9743 Месяц назад
One of the reasons I really loved VR 46 was his ability to ride the dragon like these guys did. Once the electronics started to proliferate his natural skills, no longer set him apart. I still like modern MotoGP but I agree the NSR 500 was definitely the golden age
@scoobydoo885
@scoobydoo885 Месяц назад
Really nice job on this video, thanks
@Kavika-xh1qj
@Kavika-xh1qj 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for another great video, cheers!
@Mambojambo157
@Mambojambo157 6 месяцев назад
Races in the 80s / 90s were not always close at all. Doohan used to win by huge margins. Today, motogp is super close. And anyone in the top ten can win, even top 12, previously unheard of in the sport. No one gets lapped anymore either, very common back in the day. Ducati dominates? Sure, but for a period in the 90s we used to call GP the Honda NSR cup too. But that Rainey, Lawson, Doohan era was the best, but not for reasons of close racing. The livery, the looks of the bikes (todays bikes are ugly imo), the riders weren't pint sized jockeys. And yes the tech is too much these days and the aero is making overtaking harder. But there;s still more overtaking than people are saying.
@ketomousketo3345
@ketomousketo3345 Месяц назад
I had an Aprilia Af1 Futura 125cc 2 stroke, and that machine was a beast and super fun. I imagine the brute power of a 500cc 2 stroke racing bike.
@d1want34
@d1want34 6 месяцев назад
Schwantz & Senna was always my hero in those era
@jasyamaha
@jasyamaha Месяц назад
I went to Phillip Island GP from 1987 onwards, I live 1 hour down the road. The 500's and the men that rode them were so enthralling. I had an RZ500 too. Good times
@ML-gr6pw
@ML-gr6pw 6 месяцев назад
Excellent video, Thanks
@nascarman38n88
@nascarman38n88 6 месяцев назад
1986 GSXR 1100 owned all. I added 36 mm Mikuni carburetors, an electric shift , Goodyear slick and wheelie bar. 9'80 1/4 mile at 146 mph
@stephenwilliams926
@stephenwilliams926 6 месяцев назад
My first GP was silverstone 1979 and my bike broke down on the way home 😢
@gasdive
@gasdive Месяц назад
I was there back in the day. Beside the track. All the classes were gripping, 125, 250 and 500. I still can't believe that Honda never built a version with lights and indicators, and I can't believe Yamaha and Suzuki only built theirs for 2 years. Even today, I'm sure they'd sell like hotcakes.
@user-hu4eu1cs8b
@user-hu4eu1cs8b 6 месяцев назад
I miss the good old days of Yamaha 2-strokes dominating with Kenny Roberts behind the handlebars!
@a.m.c.a1362
@a.m.c.a1362 6 месяцев назад
Great video, thank you.
@Kongzi93
@Kongzi93 23 дня назад
Thanks for this excellent upload😃👍
@Larpy1933
@Larpy1933 6 месяцев назад
This was great. Thanks a lot.
@Scrambler695
@Scrambler695 6 месяцев назад
We love your Honda reviews ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥🌟🌟
@glenslick2774
@glenslick2774 6 месяцев назад
Completely agree that Moto3 is currently the most exciting racing. Will David Alonso become the next Pedro Acosta next year? It will be interesting to see if Pedro Acosta on the KTM can become the next Marc Márquez next year, or if Marc Márquez on the Ducati can become Marc Márquez again. Fermín Aldeguer added some excitement to the end of the Moto2 season. Can he carry that into next season? Eight Ducatis this year seemed a bit much. It will be good if VR46 goes to Yamaha in 2025 and Yamaha can start getting back in the game again. Might be a long time before Honda gets back in the game again. Maybe no one will be able to beat Ducati as long as Gigi Dall’Igna is there.
@forddriver8827
@forddriver8827 6 месяцев назад
Nobody cares about GP these days, its like ice skating compared to 2 stroke.
@drsrsv8884
@drsrsv8884 5 месяцев назад
​@@forddriver8827What a tard, it's expanding for a reason😂
@funhog24
@funhog24 6 месяцев назад
Well done again!
@foneco
@foneco 6 месяцев назад
Some things you never forget and one of them was watching a Cbx1000 racing on the Estoril racetrack doing the infamous S corner.
@davidciesielski8251
@davidciesielski8251 6 месяцев назад
The big bang motor was about lateral grip, not acceleration. That is why the XR750 worked...
@eddieproctor711
@eddieproctor711 5 месяцев назад
Yea I don't understand the dig towards flat track in general, all the American talent during the 500 era cut their teeth flattracking lol
@davidciesielski8251
@davidciesielski8251 5 месяцев назад
@@eddieproctor711 Not sure what you mean.
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