Yeah but did u tell the cop that you were speeding cause some1 offered u alcohol and you politely declined but where afraid they would cap you. You did first part maybe you forgot this.
I love how Paulie subtly pats Ralphie down when they hug. Also, notice how Tony sets up the whole meeting as a power move. Eating alone in a fancy restaurant.
Eating alone with witnesses so Ralphie knows that there are two Tony loyalists watching him prostrate himself to save himself. Makes sure Ralphie knows that their conversation isn't just about the two of them, but about the story it's going to be among the crews.
The most powerful thing here - Ralph walks away with no comment from Tony. Ralph doesn't know if Tony has accepted his apology, or if he is going to be whacked an hour later.
I think it's a legitimate question. The apology is insincere because he is apologizing without saying what he did. It's an empty apology. Tony is making Ralph say specifically what he did.
It's all an act. Sociopaths like Ralph are incapable of feeling anything resemble humbleness. Notice how the entire time he was blaming everything on doing coke?
Nazeem being humbled is not an emotion. He wasn’t sorry for any of it, and Tony knew he wasn’t. They both knew Ralph was doing it because he had to, and Tony basically told him to get the fuck out of the restaurant in the most indirect way possible. He WAS humbled because there was absolutely nothing he could do besides apologize and get the fuck out, regardless of his personal opinion on who was right.
He looked like that because he was under the impression that Tony was going to apologize to him as well. That's what Johnny Sack had told him when he brokered this meeting. He quickly realized that it wasn't going to happen the way he was told.
Ralph really would have taken Tony out and Tony knew it. Ralph was a TOP earner and extremely valuable asset and T never should have passed him over for Gigi.
Such a great scene. They weren't Paulie n Chrissy and one of the guys. Instead of the usual banter and them sitting and eating together this scene really showcased power structure. The boss dined alone at his table under the watchful eye of 2 of his most trusted captains guarding him. Incredible writing and directing and imagery
Such a great, introspective comment. Each observation is thoughtful, articulate, and builds on the insight that came before it. The algorithm will occasionally suggest this scene to me and when I watch it, I always make a point to come and read over your remark. Thank you.
Let me tell you. I have relatives who would have killed Richie right there for refusing a drink. My father started a horrific fight with a wedding party across the hall from My Grandparents anniversary party. The people from the wedding party went ahead and we're allowed a round of drinks my father. They did not salute him for the free drinks. He took a bottle of beer hit one guy over the head and then proceeded to stab the another one in the abdomen. No my father did not go to jail.
2 things this scene captures very well: 1. The anguish of apologizing to someone for something you know can't be forgiven. 2. The tragedy of being apologized to by someone you can't forgive.
1. the thing is ALL the guys do not think the thing with Tracy was a big deal, Ralph certainly did not care, the anguish Ralph feels is that he must apologize for something he should not, in their world hitting a made guy is ten times more worse than killing a whore. 2. It is not abut forgiveness for Tony, Tony does not forgive Ralph, ( he even kills Ralph later because of Tracy). Tony wants to remain in power and he wants money, that's why he initially let Ralph in peace but later he killed him.
Mentally torturing and then beating to death the girl is the last on his list...behind disrespecting the Bing and being rude. Yeah, Ralphie was a real saint.
slide4180 wow awesome description. You can almost HEAR the terse words between the two of them. You can see the facial expressions, the lighting of the room. Really masterful. The only thing missing is feel.
Strategically Tony thinks it's a genius power move. But it's dumb as fuck He's creating tension in his crews and humiliating his biggest earner. It's really stupid to needlessly bring trouble in like that
+R. David When my elder sister turned 18 she inherited £40,000. In a couple of years it was all gone. "I....was doing A LOT of coke at the time...I'm off it now" was pretty much what she said to my parents.
R. David she had a lot of hangers on; friends and fake friends that would do a lot of coke with her. And also she spent a lot of money on gaudy designer bullshit that young women like, but yeah it was mostly coke.
@@joeylawn36111 Not for coke they all do it. If it was Heroin he would because you see a lot more heroin addicts living in alleys than you do coke heads. Every club in NYC has cocaine all over it.
No joke at one of my first jobs in high school a guy who had gotten fired earlier in the month came back to beg for his job back and started with, “I’ve been sober for 72 hours!”
You gotta love that Paulie and Chris, two of the most hilarious characters on the show who are constantly at odds with one another, almost transform here into two nameless henchmen with no personality, no purpose, no meaning except to guard Tony. Menacing and terrifying. No jokes, no words, just cold stares.
You couldnt put it better some times people in our groups disrespect us in ways that others wouldnt only because they know they can get away with it!But a quick reality check is all that is needed!
Tony always stabs his food with his fork so aggressively when he's eating that sometimes i think the food is still alive and he's killing it there on the plate!
He's doing it to elongate the time between eating during the shooting. he mentioned that in one interview I believe. something about the food being cold and usually tasting terrible. so he just would stab away at the food to elongate the time between each bite.
It always gives the impression that he's pissed, trying to passively burn off aggression, thinking angry thoughts. Which is perfectly realistic for his character.
This is a great scene! You can just feel the tension. Tony is brilliant here by not recognizing Ralph's presence; "for what?"; "anything else?" all made Ralph very uncomfortable. Chris & Paulie standing guard is icing on the cake.
Tony asks those questions because Ralph is not admitting anything wrong with what he did, it's pure deflection, *HE* is not the problem, the problem was the coke that made him do it! Whenever someone does that (deflect into something else rather than take responsibility) then that means they are not sorry for anything and did not learn any lessons, because it wasn't their fault in their mind.
There are two types of people in the world. Those whove seen the sopranos all the way through And those whove seen all the clips on youtube There is no middle ground
I’m both. I’ve watched the Soprano’s all the way through at least twice and have rewatched various seasons multiple times. Oh, and I watch the clips on RU-vid too.
Now THAT's being a boss: showed his superiority, didn't let the guy sit down, didn't engage in conversation, didn't scold, lecture or raise his voice, he let the guy humble himself and then did not even indicate acceptance of the apology
Yeah Tony was a great boss, that’s why he was so loved and respected by his underlings and feared by his enemies lol Tony handles Ralph terribly from start to finish including at the end when he lost his temper and could have just as easily ended up dead there and then. He alienated or betrayed everyone except Silvio and was probably ratted out by his own side to end up murdered in front of his own family he had almost also alienated and ruined. Tony even had people who actively disliked Ralph questioning Tony’s handling of it all
"Sometimes I leave the seat up in the bathroom. My shoelaces aren't always tied. I often forget to recycle. And the thing with the girl outside with the blood and the screaming and the brainmatter getting on my knuckles, that wasn't good either come to think of it."
"In third grade, I cheated on my history exam. In fourth grade, I stole my uncle Max's toupee and I glued it on my face when I was Moses in my Hebrew School play. In fifth grade, I knocked my sister Edie down the stairs and I blamed it on the dog... when my mom sent me to the summer camp for fat kids and then they served lunch I got nuts and I pigged out and they kicked me out! ...but the worst thing I ever done: I mixed up all this fake puke at home and then I went to this movie theater, hid the puke in my jacket, climbed up to the balcony and then, t-t-then, I made a noise like this: hua-hua-hua-huaaaaaaa - and then I dumped it over the side, all over the people in the audience. And then, this was horrible, all the people started getting sick and throwing up all over each other. And I never felt so bad in my entire life!"
The scene where Ralph passed on the drink and the subsequent scenes with Tony and Ralph until Ralph’s ultimate demise, are some of the best insights into the mind of Tony Soprano. He lets Ralph disrespect him the first time, and then Tony systematically dismantles Ralph until the last seen where he dismantled his face and then his life
How are so many clips of this show so classic? Seems like almost every single scene can be rewatched and appreciated by itself.... Can't say that about any other show imo.
That is the only scene where Paulie greets him with a hug or anything like that. When I first saw it I thought they are being “professional” cause it’s a sit down, but I think you’re def right on the money.
I was so glad when that piece of shit had to apologize to Tony. What a damn good character. Tony did everything right in this scene in my opinion. Ralph deserved this. Paulie and Christopher standing in the background of course made it that much more great. Even down to the type of suit Paulie wore. I loved every second of this scene.
@@MRIDDLE72 He's not, really, certainly not compared to Ralph, or some of these other guys. When did you ever see Tony lay hands on a defenseless girl or woman, let alone beat her to death? The vast majority of people Tony hurt, or killed, deserved it. I'll make one and only one exception to this general rule, and that's the way he used to beat up on poor Georgie, which I grant you was disgusting as fuck. If you can come up with any more, beyond George, I'll hear you out, but I seriously doubt you can. Ask yourself if Ralph, or any of these other guys, fuck, most ordinary people, would give Junior a second chance after the shit that old asshole pulled.
@Hyper jones Never said he was a good guy, I'm comparing him to other mobsters. I don't remember him slapping Gloria but if he did, she deserved it. And I'm not sure but I think you're lying about him hitting other women. Got any names? Yeah, that's what I thought. And I said MOST of the people he killed or had killed were scumbags. Hey, guess what? That includes Christopher, maybe first and foremost.
Tony was a petulant child in this scene. Not saying he didn't have the right to be upset, but behavior like this is why Jersey didn't get the respect from New York.
When tony asked “anything else”, he should have said “what can I do to make things right” or kick up a larger cut of whatever he’s making. Talk is cheap
Except according to the rules of LCN, it was Tony and not Ralph who was in the wrong here. That's the whole point of being a "made guy": you can do whatever you want to anyone else as long as your victim isn't LCN or connected with LCN. Ralph was a made guy and Tracee wasn't.
@@madeconomist458 I disagree, Ralph killed someone right outside a building where the boss was, without permission, making everyone there that night at the party, an accessory to murder. Ralph broke a golden rule first, and in all reality if Tony stayed calm and just left without saying anything, Ralph could've been killed the same night as Tracee, and in the same fashion. This murder proves that Ralph is a major liability to the entire family, but the only reason he wasn't killed, was because of how important he was to the esplanade, and the money he made for the N.Y. family. Being made isn't a license to kill, it's a license to steal, because only the boss has the license to kill. The reason everyone sees it Ralph's way, is because the creator wanted ppl to see these guys as monsters, and also because Tony reacted in the moment, instead of removing himself to decide Ralph's fate.
Love this scene, in a restaurant that seems closed just for Tony to eat. He has 2 goons Paulie And Christopher standing sentry as they let and watch Ralphie cower down to Tony and apologize. Tony really had nothing but disdain for Ralphie as he listed all the things he messed up with. Tony was so cold and apathetic to his apology.
Tony's whole attitude is spit on with the mood of the scene, doesn't even act like anything is wrong & ultimately doesn't except he wanted to hear those words, I'm sorry. Anything else he says as he keeps on eating, priceless.
Tony's mistake his his typical mafia mentality. He puts the boot on Ralphie's neck and keeps it there even after he submits. A wiser boss uses the carrot as well as the stick. He first subjugates but then he shows generosity and welcomes the vanquished back into the fold.
Ralph should not have expected respect. When you break the rules of the family, and when you disrespect the Bing, there is a price that you have toupee.
The best scene between Tony and Ralphie is definitely in “Whoever Did This” that battle between them is my favorite scene. This scene is great too just because how Tony wields his power over Ralphie. “What did you do?” Is classic! 😊
Tony had an emotionally fragile ego, telling John later that he was being unreasonable yet he himself was being unreasonable here. At the end of the day, you don't need to like your subordinates but if they bring you the biggest and fattest envelop with cash that is more important but Tony was a man child. Jackie Aprile would have seen the bigger picture and wouldn't have let his relationship with Ralph to sour over this, he would just have taxed him good instead which is what Tony should have done as the Boss of the family.
The whole set up is to make him as uncomfortable as possible. Tony Eating alone (which never happens ) at a very small table. Not looking at him until he addresses tony. Pretending not to know why he is there. Not offering him a seat specifically asking him to list all his transgressions specifically. All this to remind him who is the Boss and that if Tony allows any familiarity in any other circumstance it is wholly Tony's choice for associates he respects. Tony wanted Ralphie to walk out not knowing where he stands and how he was to be punished.
