The GREATEST Tomb Raider II Glitchless Speedrun! -  

Hi Footie, if you were to rank the original TR games, what it would look like?

​@@cryptzzz1188 probably like a list of tomb raider games

@@stevenosullivan187 I'm curious about the order haha

@@cryptzzz1188 TR2 will be #1 since its his fav

Thanks! It was a long but quite fun journey for sure

Thanks!

Thanks man! Now the run has all the strats I was too scared to do before, no buffer barkhang and floater cage

That floater cage strat is nuts, I would be way too scared to do it and on such a pace!

@@ktc_ I actually need to credit Crit because he told me the way I did it. Loses about 4s or so compared to full yolo but makes it really likely you won't get pushed to lava which was the biggest issue with full yolo shit. And also this way is most likely gonna use 1 less med. There's a reason I only now started doing it, only way I can get 1:29 :D

Nice, TR2013 and Rise of The TR are really nice glitchless speedruns. You can find my runs on my channel if you are interested

Because the trapdoor doesnt have a collision. The version Im playing on is missing it completely and only has visual graphic

lol

? No she doesn't

You could but it doesn't work. That specific trapdoor collision trigger is only missin on UkBox version on PC. It's fixed on EPC and PS

@@Footi I'm a PS player and I'm sure that I remember being able to do it. Infact, I think I've done it multiple times if I'm remembering correctly. I think that there are different PS versions, so maybe it varies from version to version.

If its possible its not on JP at least which is the fastest version. So I wasnt clear on my comment which was solely based on JP since its the only version people should run glitchless

@@Footi I see. Thanks for the clarification.

Not sure if I can explain it easy but the button does nothing but show a camera hint that the door is open. The trigger for the door is on the tile I land in the water. Abd the ramp has a trigger for timer AFTER door has been opened. So I enter the room via ramp (which is fastest way), then jump onto door trigger and swim out under the door. That avoids the timed run which was intended to be the way

If I understand, you press a button without having to see the door opening to save time

you do NOT need to press the button@@mickyvalenz9959

@Footi oh thats crazy i totally get, thank you

it's because it's very specific jump and it's a setup I use to do it

Says someone who has no knowledge of the rules. This run is within the rules. Glitchless doesnt mean intended.

@@Footi maybe you could link the rules ? include them somewhere on the video ?

@@DarkMoe I'm not gonna do that on every video. And all the strats I'm doing is allowed in glitchless runs. There's no intended route category because it would be unbearably boring. Also Glitchless rules are gray area in some capacity, no matter what speedrun game community. This run is listed on the page, verified and all that. www.speedrun.com/tr2?h=Any-PC-No_glitches&rules=category&x=z27ggz20-ql6g9wv8.9qjz0001-p859wvng.4qy58317

'I think you broke the rule there' - Guy who doesn't know what the rules are 🤣

@@PouchyXXVI Tell em lad! These people are on something when they come up with these claims 🤣

You do know that only on JP PS1 you have different damage output on guns where it takes 7 pistols to down a guy. If you EVER had to shoot 28 times then you were playing on New Game+ mode which unlocks after completing a game normally and starting new one right away. Enemies have doubled health and you have unlimited ammo+flares

@@Footi Ah, that may be right!

oke, tell me why? I'm expecting an explanation before anything else.

@@Footi Because it is. You use the inventory screen to manipulate the time and space continunum and then you make a glitch jump in thin air. It's basically like jumping through the side of a box instead of moving it; you can argue that the game is designed that way or you can call it a glitch. You obviously didn't jump through boxes so you define it as a glitch. The exact jump you did there I assume you did @ living quaters as well and it's been up for debate on many of these speedrun vids as it *is* most definitely a glitch. You can't manipulate the game in any way if it's glitchless.

What are you even spitting out? So first of all, did you know there's a mechanic that the later you grab the further you can reach? That is present in TR1 and 2. The jump you are referring to requires last frame grab which is hard to get consistently without any timing. That's where we use inventory buffering which advances game 2 frames each time you open and close it. We draw guns for 3 buffers ( 6 frames) and then do the jump while holstering guns and after second time you hold grab, that gives you last frame grab timing before free fall. You don't even need to do that buffering to make the jump. Look at PS1 glitchless run and the Offshore Rig jump how I do it, it's same principle, draw guns twice to get a last frame possible but different way because there's no inventory buffering in PS1 TR2. Living quarters jump is also just a jump with late grab which isn't a glitch. Just because you never did it or can't still do doesn't make it a glitch. It's quite funny that you didn't mention any other jumps where I use late grab. Showing you have no idea what you are talking about. Late grabs are so common but since they look "normal" to you, you don't mention them. and when it comes to it being a "debate" has never been the case unless you are clueless and want to call that. There are people who has spent thousands of hours studying the game and finding a lot of cool ways to get around things, such as jumps and even creative ways to time things. That's nowhere near even same as jumping through a corner or a block At least one thing you could do is stay consistent or be reasonable and actually research stuff before claiming things with ZERO knowledge. As shown by your other comment you don't even know the basic thing in the game, that New Game+ exists.@@Gonken88 How could anyone take you seriously if that's the base line?

@@Footi See, you even admit you're manipulating the game by opening and closing the menu so you can jump later thus prolonging the jump. If you don't need to do that, then don't do it and nobody will ever have a problem. As for this being a debate, I made the exact same remark at another guys speedrun and he, like you, went semi-bananas and gave me a similar lesson as this one, and he even made another speedrun referencing me as "some idiot" who didn't think his last speedrun was glitchless 😅. Yet still there were people agreeing with me in the comments - so yeah, people disagree about this. How many hours are spent finding these glitches is hardly the point 🤷.

Well they aren't wrong calling you an idiot. You can't even stay consistent with your own reasoning and haven't put any thought into it. Now you are saying ANY closing or opening inventory is a glitch if YOU say so, think how stupid that logic is. There is a big difference between a bellend like you with zero knowledge or thousands of hours collectively across all the TR communities. @@Gonken88

Those aren't glitches - they're just unintended shortcuts that the developers/designers probably never knew were possible. Something like jumping inside a wall and appearing in a different location is a glitch.

@@Udders666 two steps on air → glitch

A jump which isnt supposed to be done isnt a glitch, its an exploit. And Im using so many of those before the level already that show inconsistency with your logic

all im saying to anyone use exploit oe Glitch its not a genuine run so it shouldnt be should as Glitchless its the same thing really i love to see pseed runs thats done fast movement etc but its clear on that level that your not meant to do that so.........

@@kayotics7003 You seem to fail to understand that Glitchless as a category is NOT literal dev intended in any game because noone knows what that is 100% and it would be way too boring. Also using an exploit isn't instantly a glitch. You failed to point any other jumps to skip areas as bannable offenses until Offshore RIg jump. And I assume only reason you did point that specifically is that you didn't know it's possible. It is widely varying in communities. This is by definition a glitchless run. If you knew anything about the game engine and such