I believe only people who were desperate and/or depressed can really appreciate the scene and the acting... I've been there, had the same feelings and done the same conversations in my head and I realize how magnificent the scene is... for those, who never had such feelings, it's just a scene, nothing special...
Any examples? I’ve heard that one he did with Patrick Swayze back in the late 80’s (I think) was pretty good, but haven’t heard of anything other than that
He lost his wife a few years back...this is great acting but I feel as though he's had much practice having this same narrative with his higher power...good stuff
Watching this scene I felt I was the only one who had such a relationship with God. I once loved him more than anything but he never helped me or even acknowledged me. Now that I read the comments I realise there are people like me ..... going thru the same things I'm going thru. It doesn't make me happy but it makes me feel a bit satisfied that I'm not alone.
Did u accept Jesus and do u talk to him normally not just when u need something u can’t exspect yo hear from god if your not listening or if your not making time for him.
This movie was so beautiful, i never cried so much in my life especially Jerome's death. This part really hit me as well being I had this conversation a few times just different situation. Liam did an amazing job in this movie made me feel like i was the character playing the part.
What is frustrating is the silence after all the scream. I've been there, and it feels terrible. That is why faith is a hard thing for me to understand
Eu não estava muito bem na decada de 80. Trancava em meu quarto com a musica do radio tocando alto e tinha algumas conversas como esta para me sentir melhor! Hoje me sinto tranquilo e bem melhor do que antes! Talvez seja o aprendizado que os anos me fizeram ver!
This movie speaks to the male struggle greater than you can ever know. It took me a long time to understand what it meant. Thought it was a survival thriller with wolves in it. Only realized later that it was about depression, loss, and the silent pain men go through. We're told to stay strong, grin and bear it. But sooner or later we break. Crying out to a higher power for guidance. Goddamn.
Truly, i agree, one of the most powerful, and wholly relevant and important scenes in recent cinema. This whole film is special, because where it could so easily have just been mediocre, generic and pointless, it saw the importance of being more than that by exploring how people face death, and what things pull them towards life and living.
the scene where he guides the one guy to death early on is pretty powerful too, all around an incredible movie, P.S 11 years later hahaha hope ur doing okay since then
This scene is whats always been, you pray to nothing, nothing ever comes to your aid, just imagine those people in the nazi camp, didnt they call for gods help? and what happened? they starved to death, were murdered in the most agonizing death, who came to their help? You might as well as scream "toyota, honda, mazda, .... mitsubishi" , you will exactly getvthe same result. The only one who can help you is you. Keep waiting.
this scene and movie reinforced my faith.....I feel like I'm the lone outsider there but it did. sometimes we get a message we didn't know we needed more than what we ask for.
I’m with you, I’ve been in Liam’s position (with God) begging for him to do something. Truth is, God always does something, we just don’t always see it
@@artloverivylive is about coping. stupid point ur making there. if one is able to fully cope with the disasters that happen to people in this world on a daily basis, with something you may or may not believe in, let it be. it gets them through the day and thats all we need to do. you taking the role of realist/hater is just a bad way to be. what if this guy was on his last legs barely able to get through the day and your "realist" comment referring to the one thing that's keeping him going as a "coping mechanism" was the final straw that made him stop believing, give up hope and end it all? you would never know, but your words can be the tipping point to someone who's faith and belief that it will get better has been weakened by the hand they've been dealt. so tell me, wtf is the point of being a negative "realist" here instead of just stfu and let people believe whatever they need to to get by??
@@phintonpickleberg8917 Just want to say thank you. Its rare to see someone on the internet who is actually positive, supportive and puts themselves in the shoes of someone else.
@@phintonpickleberg8917 i just think that this the cost of free will that God gave us and we are not supposed to understand every thing incomprehensible that God does on this existence because we are not God , we don't have the absolute knowledge/wisdom that he has so that we can understand everything (we would look like a fucking crying baby) . Just for example as an analogy to this "when you have a child who is always begging you for a chocolate/candy every day non stop and you keep saying to him this is unhealthy for you and for yoyr teeth etc do you think he is gonna believe you no way( the parent are waay wiser that the child) , that's how we look in front of God.
@white christian because it's too hard for god to just forgive us right? He needed to come down himself to let people kill him in order to forgive us. If we mortal humans who have messed up cortisol producing and anger yielding brains, can forgive others, then what about the creator of the universe who has no primal emotions? We humans work hard our whole life to reach enlightenment in order to forgive others easily. And some people call this state of being a divine state. But if the divine needs sacrifice in order to forgive then screw this god i dont need his forgiveness
Even if there is a supreme being or god that exists in this universe, I know for sure he or she doesn't give a fuck about any of us or what happens on this planet.
Perhaps god is nothing more than a sadistic child watching us slaughter and rape each other and destroy the environment and in the end ourselves and mother earth. cheery thought ;)
I'd say it's not that it doesn't care..... It's simply that to interfere is stop things being natural. If you wanted things to naturally pan out, for a purpose.. But then you suddenly started interfering and changing things..... Then it'd no longer be natural. All that comes from that moment on.. Would be influenced by your "supernatural" interference".
Woodland Warrior That is far from the truth. You see, if God doesn't care about us, why would he sacrifice his own son to us? Why would he ever even communicate to us if he didn't care? The Bible says many times that humans will have many problems in their life, whether death, illness or in this case hopelessness. God didn't bring suffering into the world. It was us who did, do to our sins and wicked ways. Because God loves us, he hasn't given up on us. If you believe in him and truly want to have a real relationship with him, everything should work it's way out.
Neeson is a national treasure. I really liked SIlence, although it is a hard to movie to watch. When Neeson appears, man, it's like a whole other movie. I'm not sure why they didn't give him more of a role.
Of course this is a fictional scene, but there is something so undoubtedly real about it. Maybe that says something about my own faith, that I'd expect the same response from God. And I do believe in God. Many have suffered the way Liam's character is in this scene, and worse. But humanity is learning just how responsible we are for ourselves, and each other. And God surely knows all our pains and misery as we learn this lesson. God knows everything from our paper cuts to our dying breaths.
@@wholelottapain8130 It doesn’t fucking matter if God is real or not, that’s the point. What matters is what you believe in and if you choose to persevere because of, or in spite of, your own beliefs.
@@giovannihernandez8293 people think that god exist to everybody which he doesn’t. Your “god” only exist to you. Not everyone else. It’s bold of people to assume that everybody recognizes your judgemental hateful god.
Very powerful scene, not like any other lazy cliché movies where the main character is at their breaking point and asks god for a “sign” and all of a sudden they get a hint or something happens to lead them towards the right direction. This scene is just emptiness, loneliness and hopeless. No one is coming to save you and no one is listening.
I left religion on epistemological and moral grounds but i can understand leaving solely on his silence. Even though im so far removed from religion that i have trouble understanding belivers i still remember the feeling of that deafening silence that you get when you do believe in god, beg for him then get no response.
It's been 10 years and I still think about this scene often, I just can't understand how friends and family can believe in a being that's only ever let me down. God I wish I could believe, it'd mean I'd always have something to fall back on instead of facing existing on my own, but as Liam Neeson says in this scene: fuck it, I'll do it myself. I do think life is a gift and it's something to cherish but on nights such as this one the unbearable weight of it all is a little much at times.
“Does God give you courage? Or the opportunity to be courageous?….” The quote from Ethan All Mighty has made me a firm believer in God. God answers our prayers, the problem is we don’t understand the methods in which He does it. This
My best friend was just diagnosed with a terminal disease. I cashed out the last of my stimulus check, gathered a few scraps of jewelry I inherited from my grandmother, and drove to every cathedral in town begging priests to transfer the sickness to me in exchange for the $. Every one sent me away. I can’t stop watching this and crying.
Not too many people understand his situation, but we have to go through a tragedy that nothing can comfort us, but God himself and when we lose hope in him, that is end of story, we realize that all this time we have been alone. We come alone and go alone. There is nothing in this world. It is just circle of life.
to me, this and TDKR are the two best hollywood movies from 2012. From the nominated films, Lincoln was good enough: I rute for that one on the award-giving.
I watched this scene, and it made me think of my life over and over for what I have done in it! What does that mean? It means that I have hurt the people that I loved the most, and I can never forget that pain that I have caused to them. A lot of them has passed on, and I never got that chance to making it right. Now I am sitting at my desk writing this and I don't really know why I am doing this, but then again I am finding some kind of peace in knowing that I am not alone in this world, that many feel the pains that I am in, because they are experiencing them right now in there own ways. The only thing that keeps me alive is my dogs and that there is hope in the darkness that is around us all. I can not give up on hope or my dogs for that matter, and if God is in the presence I hope that he can find that peace that I searching for in the last 48 years of my life. In the end, I was in the military and I seen the power of God, I have seen the angels at work saving many of my friends and many people that I never ever got to know. The point of this all is if God can do this for people, I pray that he can find me that peace that I have always been searching for. Take care everyone and truly stay blessed. And embrace the struggle...
I think this scene changed me. Ive always had this question about life that demanded to be answered. ive seeked answers from different kinds of people from strong believers to priests/pastors. Ive also tried seeking from different kinds of religion (islam, evangelists, jehovah, roman catholic), but essentially, no one could provide me a convincing answer. I eventually gave up. And as i grew older and learned more about the mankind, its history and crisis of current events of the whole world, it is there that ive found the answer to it. No holy plan or holy prophecy etc, just plain, simple & uncomplicated answer. Its also the same moment that i lost trust to humanity and loved animals morethan people. I think religion is a fraud, spirituality on the other hand is beneficial in finding peace amidst a chaos.
My friend, religions is just a faith. None of it were real, nor the stories. Maybe there were real people like Jesus or Muhammad back in the day, but they're nothing more than regular humans.
I love how this movie is just... reality. You know, no fuckig god saving you or some fairy tale bullshit! This is how shit IS! No god, no comfort, just hard, tough life.
Oh no...trsut me...we know already..God doesn't exist...not god or allah or whatever other name you want to name it by, it's not out there. Deitys were a creation of man to control other humans, and to make us feel less insecure about our own pathetic mortality. Time for mankind to grow the fuck up and realise that when it's the end..it's the END. But within that, don't be afraid....because we won't know about it...just as with the billions of years BEFORE we were born, we won't know about it AFTER we die...so we need not fear.
"And when harm touches you at sea, those that you call upon vanish, except for Him. But when He brings you safe to land, you turn away. And man is ever ungrateful." (17:67) Holy Quran
You all can't tell me he didn't have this same argument with God When Natasha passed away. This is from his heart💯💯 why he never won an Oscar for this... I'll never know🙄
Everyone in the comments acting like they know God's plan. In reality how many people ask themselves, how much of this suffering is self provoked? How much of my hand did I actually deal to myself? And as for death, death is a certainty in life. And death does not run on your time, or anyone else's. The world is full of evil, traps, and sin. But it's also beautiful. Love, relationships, prosperity. All I'm saying is don't blame God or cast him out because of how your reacting to situations. I've seen homeless humans with a bigger smile on their face, then alot of wealthy individuals
What was before god? Who began God? If god doesn't need an explanation, why must the universe? Humans have never seen anything created, only changed, who's to say that creation is even possible? Is it not possible that everything exists eternally and merely sways from one form to another? Isn't it possible for there to be no such thing as creation OR destruction? We don't even know if there is such a thing, as nothing.
www.learnreligions.com/creation-of-the-universe-2004201 Read this Articl you will find answers and if you want more know why God was never show up to ppl then untherstand why is not easy to watch the Sun light so God Allah is more powerfull he creats everything and he is behind that al universe.. But read it that link and there re more details and in the book Quran
It's really whichever way you want to look at it. The way I see it, the universe exists for a reason. Why is there something instead of nothing? Clearly because there's something beyond it that we have no ability to comprehend or understand. Every time I look at the universe, think about how it all came into existence randomly 13 billion years ago it leads to the question of why and it always leads back to "there must be something more". That along with the mystery of consciousness and the mystery of how life even exists at all.
If a movie scene can make you loose your faith you never had it to start with buddy, also the scene is idiotic hes asking God for a sign yet the dude survived a plane crash that in itself is a miracle.
@@EXPOSEDBYGABRIELPEREZ so that's why your comment was pointless as to humans don't know for sure about the universe bcz it's beyond ours. Your comment contradict yourself.
daniel day lewis won three oscars because hes fucking incredible. dont take away the fact that he is a great actor, just because liam neeson is also a great actor. one thing doesnt have anything to do with the other.
"Remember -- don't pray for easy lives, only pray to be stronger man" - John F. Kennedy. You see to me in this scene, God was listening to him. Poor Liam Nesson's character thought he got nothing out of this little rant with God. But if anything, God gave Liam's character two things at the end: strength, and courage. Because if you've seen the end of this film, and how it ended. You'll know what I'm talking about.
@Caesar It's not. This scene was a matter of a debate on my university (we were talking about the movies and stuff) - and many brought many theories, include that God indeed existed here and listened to him. There were thousand of theories and everyone agreed that every single one was right. The one WITHOUT a God and how did it impacted, the one WITH the God and how did it impacted. Everyone agreed that this scene could be saw in thousand different ways, yet every way was right. We were mind-blowned, including the professors who were listening to the debate. P.S. Believing in God (as far as I know for orthodox Christianity) means believing in yourself too. I think the same goes for any other type (including catholic) Christianity.
@Frank Chase deaf to our prayers .. Cmon man not true at all , you gotta understand how god works ..if you prayed for a car do you think god just drops a car down on you .. Or does he give you the opportunity to get a car ... Or if someone prayed to be closer to somone does he zap them with warm feelings .. Or does he give them opportunity to come closer to each other . and if he don't answer your prayers , there's a reason , he knows your heart man
what did God gave newborns which suffer from various deadly diseases and die within few days, months or years? They are totaly helpless and nobody in the world are able to help them. It tears your soul just to look at their pointless suffering so where is God in this? I don't know if he exist, but if yes, then it looks like human pain and suffering are totaly indifferent to him...
I recently had to put my furbaby down, he was the light of my life, I cannot have children of my own so my love for him was that much deeper. It was very sudden so it's not like he was sick & I had time to process it all or make his last few days or weeks or months more memorable, it was very last minute & it was the worst decision of my life. I didn't eat for 6 days, slept maybe 20 hours in those 6 days, I was having hallucinations because I was so sleep deprived & my body was starving, I was also drinking heavily those 6 days. After the 6th day I finally forced myself to eat & it felt really strange & the food tasted so weird. I ended up moving back home into my mother's house, I've been doing better, been seeing a therapist, moved to part time work for the time being. Some ppl say it's just an animal, why get so worked up. All I can say is well, if you have children imagine losing them, how heart broken would you be, or what if you've always wanted children but found out you can't, that's why I love my Max so much, he is my son from a different species, species could never make us any closer than we were. I highly believe in reincarnation & I believe that one day when I'm ready for another cat it may just be him in there, I will go to a shelter & sit on the floor & let him choose me.
I love this movie! I have the dvd. I have a totally different take on this movies theme. Of course it is about survival and loss. But first I don't agree that it was “realistic” in the plot. (I know the idea is for them to all die) And its just a movie. But a little more common sense thinking would have been better) Leaving the plane without first gathering up all the valuable items. The plane is made almost entirely out of aircraft grade aluminum. Doors would make great wolf shields for defense or slowly advance and kill them. All kinds of sharp aluminum pieces to make spears (instead of green sticks). Gang up and eliminate them one at a time. Seat material or tarps from baggage areas could make thick warmer defensive body coverings. Lots of knives in the kitchen area? He obviously had a rifle when he shot the coyote at the start of the film. And he found it broken in two after the crash. If he had the rifle shells for it and had the barrel so he could load a shell in the chamber and then hit the primer with something it would have worked far better than the bang stick idea. Which would not worked with sharpened green sticks. Primers are hard to pierce. The knives they used to whittle the sticks would be better “lashed” to the sticks! And they were shotgun shells that he found in the snow. But they didn't show a shotgun at the beginning of the film only a rifle. I know getting picky... its just a movie ..but just my take. My idea of the main moral of the story is that the plane was “meant” to crash, and “everyone” was supposed to to be killed on impact. Ottway would have died along with everyone else. Talgit (Dermit Mulroney) talks about it being pre-ordained that they all survived. My take it was the opposite. It was pre-ordained for “all of them” to die. But God changed his mind. Ottway doesn't believe in God. He rejects any thought of salvation and blames God for the death of his wife. He talks about regret for things he has done. And when he contemplates taking his own life, God punishes him. He lets some of the passengers live, so he will have to help them try and survive and witness their deaths first hand. To finally understand the meaning and beauty of life. To fight for it. And believe in the heavenly value of it. And his father is hopefully in heaven rejoicing in his sons acknowledgement of the legacy of his poem. Diaz (Frank Grillo) Also has his soul re-deemed by finally understanding the beauty around him in the end. In the ending scene when Ottway goes through the wallets of all of the victims (who became his friends) The tremendous grief and emotion he is portraying, always hits me hard (what a fantastic job my Liam). The regret, remorse and embarrassment he feels for his selfish “near tragic” act of death from his own hand. In that instant he understands why God did not help him when he looked to the clouds. He told God to “Earn It”!.. Earn my faith!...But it's supposed to be the other way around. That's why it is called “Faith” in God. Life can be difficult, but it is still a gift, and is "Precious". “Keep the Faith” people! And when I mean "Faith" I don't mean just God, or anyone's version of a creator. I am not a church goer, I am 64. I have had some tough days. The bible to me is just words that man passed down from generations. Take it as you wish. Hell is right here on earth every day! And getting worse by the minute. But all around us also is "Heaven" . "Life", amazing creatures, plants, blue sky. And million's of acts of kindness and heroism every day. In the face of all this madness. Life and the earth can be so beautiful, and amazing. My bible is in the sky at night. Look up and see those billions of small twinkling dots.. and tell yourself "honestly" is there nothing out there. All of this beauty came out of all of that vastness. And who knows what's in store for us next. Love and Good" are "Real' and do "Exist"! Keep looking up! 😊😊❤👍Another great movie to check out if you haven't seen it is "Cloud Atlas"! It will definitely make you think about "Life and Death"! Another thought just popped into my head. I “think” a lot! And I love to write, as you can tell! How about a plot twist? Just as Ottway meets the dominant wolf head on.....he suddenly wakes up! And he is back on the plane. It is still flying fine and all of the other cast members have just woken up as well. They say nothing, but just look around at each other in disbelief. The plane lands safely, and they all come together but still are silent just looking at each other with pale faces. Ottway turns to them and says...any of you fellows want to join me in a cup of coffee?...I like that ending!
I suggest to you that it is because God loves us that he gives us the gift of suffering. Pain is God's megaphone to rouse a deaf world. You see, we are like blocks of stone out of which the Sculptor carves the forms of men. The blows of his chisel, which hurt us so much are what make us perfect. C. S. Lewis
If god exists, he is more complicated than the galaxis and all the space, so by your logic he could not come from nothing, someone or something had to do an action to start him. and thats the problem, if you are going to say god always existed, there is no reason to say that the universe didn't always exist
If I could recommend another movie it would be the anime Graveyard of the Fireflies. It shows immense suffering, and also shows the choices or lack of human interest in creating solutions. We're responsible for one another. Any mature atheist/theist can see that. But that does not mean the universe is Godless.
