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The Guitar of Killing Joke: Geordie Walker. Eighties, Love like Blood, Jazz Coleman, Paul Raven 

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Below are my very rough notes for more gear etc:
Bell labs
"Automatic Double Tracker"
Memory Man pedal
2 U67 valve
2. Shure 57
Room was Stereo AKG 24 valve .
The bass amp cab was a trace Eliot not sure if it was 10 or 15 . Possibly 10 s as studio 2 at olympic was not huge .
He used the neck pickup for ryth and switched bridge for solo:
• Killing Joke - Eightie...
GEORDIE INTERVIEW NOTES "Memory man, which is stereo, each of the outputs goes into a Bell ADT unit, and on into an amp each. It sounds like about six guitars playing, awesome! I have a lot of trouble recording with them. When you're standing there in a room with them it affects your body; I mean you can feel the thing and it overwhelms you, but if you stick a mike in front of it, it sounds nothing like the room. The miking is so critical. I have to spend hours walking around finding a good spot. I remember in the Townhouse I had three pairs of stereo mikes on my set-up, two about three feet away, another pair ten feet away, and a pair of the big valve Neumanns about 15 or 20 feet away, and I mixed the lot together to get the sound. It fills the room, but it's just getting that sound onto record."
Gibson ES295 (main one was an early 50's one) 1952
Boogie eater/Marshall killer
Burman 250 watts tube in stereo
Two Burman amps with a chorus between them. KT77 TUBES.
He went to Burman who told him he was QUITTING amp building.
Burman 8x10 speakers
Gibson SG junior backup
EH Deluxe Memory Man into two
Paice
ADT chorus/delay/deviation/modulation
"PA:CE (Parmee Acoustics and Collins Electromagnetics) units, one under the Bell Electrolabs brand"
The Beatles used it on vocals to add a phase chorus to thicken vocals.
Burman GX3 preamp/amp
Tunes to D up to 062 on the bottom
Goodman speakers.
Paul Raven was in Prong and Ministry
Bass headless bass 80's Steinberger XM2 P/J
Wal bass. He had Raven chorus dirt pedal
Later on Geordie used TC Electronic 1210 Spatial Expander
They were experimenting with contact mics on the body of his guitar, trying to make it sound like a symphony orchestra on a radio that wasn't quite tuned in. They spent ages trying this but gave up because it sounded shite
Tony McKenzie Burman: • Burman 501 Pro Hand Ma...
Transformer was custom. Not partridge and 3 levels of cascading gain with KT77 TUBES. MULLARD mustard caps. THE old gold lion. Mesa Boogie copied the cascading gain?
Geordie studied archetecture. Melody market ad and joined KJ. Instantly argued over music but that stuck with Geordie. He lived in a girl's dorm much like Syd Barret
Englebert HUMPERDINK & Hendrix influence
Mention demos. Highlight the RESONANCE:
• Geordie Walker RIP 200...
CHRIS Kimsey also worked on
ZEPLIN III
Frampton comes alive
Producer of Wierd Science.
The Rolling Stones
Duran Duran ordinary world
Nirvana. Sent KJ a Christmas card
Jimmy Page:
"I go back a long way with Jaz Coleman and the band. I used to go and see the band, and it was a band that really impressed me because Geordie's guitar sound was just really, really strong"

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Комментарии : 339   
@allenp920
@allenp920 4 года назад
"No-one sounds like Geordie. His guitar sounds like the end of the world has just arrived"
@chuckrittling7421
@chuckrittling7421 10 месяцев назад
Agreed…I always thought of Godzilla when I heard his guitar
@franklerch1012
@franklerch1012 Год назад
I cant even imagine growing up without Killing Joke.
@TheGarageRecordingSC
@TheGarageRecordingSC 4 года назад
Killing joke is so underrated and unsung it’s a tragedy !!! Absolutely responsible for a ton of modern rock and metal !!! So glad you did this video and recognized this great band !!!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Thanks man
@TheGarageRecordingSC
@TheGarageRecordingSC 4 года назад
CIRCLE OF TONE. Absolutely brother, shared this to Facebook, so hopefully you will get some more subs.....I run a recording studio out of my house, and I’m always telling bands about your channel. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@hikingmetaller2303
@hikingmetaller2303 3 года назад
exactly. It is an interesting journey how for example Crust punk exists as we know it thanks to the Amebix which were heavilly influenced by Killing Jokes.
@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG
@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG 5 месяцев назад
@TheGarageRecordingSC Not in the circles I travel in...
@HazeAnderson
@HazeAnderson 4 года назад
One of my favorite bands ... "Night Time" is a masterpiece from start to finish. Paul Ferguson seriously underrated drummer ... UNSUNG HERO!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Yep. Huge solid hypnotic beats.
@troopin
@troopin 4 года назад
check this out ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HyKJ5DmHc8E.html
@timbuk1126
@timbuk1126 7 месяцев назад
RIP Geordie Walker! You will be sorely missed. 😢❤
@Blaser528
@Blaser528 4 года назад
Was fortunate enough to see Killing joke when they came to Boston in support of the 2003 record. As a bass player, I was up front screaming at Raven while my brain glitched trying to decipher Geordie's tone. One of my favorite bands of all time and thank you for this
@Gonzo2707
@Gonzo2707 4 года назад
Heh. The memories. Love like blood was the second ever song I learned on electrical guitar, and Eighties was the fourth. Ye gods. The fun we had. Growing old sucks big hairy donkey balls 😣.
@THEQueeferSutherland
@THEQueeferSutherland 4 года назад
I keep repeating myself in your comments, but I'd love to see The Chameleons for that guitar tone, so damn dreamy.
@helter2K10
@helter2K10 4 года назад
QueeferSutherland great suggestion - amazing band - atmospheric guitar sounds, brilliant melodic lyrics and killer drumming too
@mathew1268
@mathew1268 4 года назад
Backed
@Max10_B
@Max10_B 4 года назад
the church as well
@keyboardcorrector2340
@keyboardcorrector2340 4 года назад
QueeferSutherland, I SECOND THIS. Besides Killing Joke, The Chameleons are one of my favorite Post-Punk bands of all time.
@bennyshambles
@bennyshambles 4 года назад
Lots of chorus and overdrive = The Chameleons and The Church. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@jessedominguez543
@jessedominguez543 4 года назад
We need to show Bauhaus some love... Daniel Ash
@brazilianmegaman258
@brazilianmegaman258 4 года назад
Sisters of Mercy next my man! The tones of “This Corrosion” are absolutely killer you would do them justice.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Has to be done. Does anyone know what was used on the early classics?
@helter2K10
@helter2K10 4 года назад
So excited man I am seeing them next week in Brisbane - gonna be awesome!!!
@whssy
@whssy 4 года назад
@@helter2K10 It really won't. Gave up on them a decade ago. Hope it works for you but don't go there expecting wonders. Was just listening to the MFSL pressing of Floodland last night. Better than I remember it but still not a patch on FALAA.
@helter2K10
@helter2K10 4 года назад
whssy haha thanks for the warning - I am a nostalgic nerd so will still enjoy it I am sure - I just hope Doktor Avalanche is in form :) it’s was a great period for music though and I am glad that all these classic bands are still touring because I get to tick off music bucket lists
@AtticusStount
@AtticusStount 4 года назад
@@CIRCLEOFTONE A 12 string electric was used on some/all of the songs on First and Last and Always, and can be seen wielded live. I am very invested in the band's early sound, so please get in touch.
@InsideBilderberg
@InsideBilderberg 4 года назад
Killing Joke is my favorite band, greetings from Iceland.
@mrcoffee5909
@mrcoffee5909 4 года назад
Geordie was my guitar idol in 1981..i was 17 years of age and a cheerleader in high school. I bought a guitar after hearing the Killing Joke song, " Change". I referred to Geordie's style as jagged punk.. Love Killing Joke!
@kevinsturges6957
@kevinsturges6957 4 года назад
The way you tell these stories.. This has become one of my favorite channels on RU-vid. It's like tuning into an old late night show on American PBS TV. Great stuff! 😊
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Kevin you made my day. This is a small channel that not many talk about but your words make me want to do more of the same.
@paulgioia9730
@paulgioia9730 4 года назад
Dude, thank you so much for this. KJ are one of my hugest influences and like you say, never cease to impress and to blow me away with how passionate, insightful and highly musical they are. I love all their albums and continue to watch them closely. "In Cythera" pretty much got me through ending my life when my girlfriend passed away last year. True story. Jaz' openess to his spirituality has also guided me to new insights concerning spirit, metaphysics and "quantum immortality" - which have also been life savers for me. Long live Killing Joke.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Music is so powerful. Glad you are still here.
@diogobatista6844
@diogobatista6844 3 года назад
Wow CIRCLE OF TONE, that was amazing. ''The Death and Resurrection Show'' is must-watch documentary. Big up and respect.
@FromaTwistedMind
@FromaTwistedMind 2 года назад
Love this video... found you by way of your amazing John McGeoch video then your Robert Smith one. Although not Goth, Hugh Cornwells /Stranglers 1st post Punk album "Black & White" is such a stark brutal genius album... check out Hughs guitar sound on it. As always JJ Burnels bass on this album just ramps up the sledgehammer smashing brutal sound even more than on any previous songs/albums, especially on the song "Tank". Add to that dear departed Dave Greenfields soaring archipelago keyboards & you've a stark, bleak industrial sounding music of doom. You really should do a programme about the Stranglers. Subbed.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад
Stranglers is a GREAT idea. You may like the Damned vid I did. Pre damned had a Strangler in it. I did Adam and the Ants etc too.
@FromaTwistedMind
@FromaTwistedMind 2 года назад
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I've watched the Banshees, Cure, Damned vids- Love em!
@dominicseanmccann6300
@dominicseanmccann6300 2 года назад
Or Nosferatu. Great guitar on that.
@moomoomooshit
@moomoomooshit 4 года назад
"Choose ye an island; fortify it" is from Liber AL - to understand that Killing Joke, one must know it.
@princeofcupspoc9073
@princeofcupspoc9073 4 года назад
93
@moomoomooshit
@moomoomooshit 4 года назад
@@princeofcupspoc9073 Ave Babalon!
@MusicTherapyLaz
@MusicTherapyLaz 4 года назад
Another cool video man! Thanks for sharng! I will be going back listening to some of these classics! 😎🎸
@justfunguitar1500
@justfunguitar1500 4 года назад
I adore the music of Killing Joke, good vid as usual Owen.
@bryantmidura6917
@bryantmidura6917 4 года назад
I'm a first-time viewer (and now subscriber). Thank you for putting this together! The internet is a wasteland when it comes to Geordie information, so it's great to see somebody who knows what they're talking about bring so many new things to light.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Awesome. Welcome to the Circle.
@helter2K10
@helter2K10 4 года назад
Yet another glorious information packed celebration of musical magnificence - love your work bro - hoping this one stays monetised ;)
@davidellis5141
@davidellis5141 4 года назад
Killing Joke are much appreciated by fellow musicians. For one band to have both Mettalica & Foo Fighters cover them is a testament to their talent. Geordie , the best " rhythm " guitarist ever ? Maybe !
@slavesforging5361
@slavesforging5361 4 года назад
I really love this style of in depth video about gear, and the people, places, rather than just a list of the gear. the lists are nice, but seeing all your research, photos, video clips, and shouts to other youtubers is great. i'm not well versed in metal and certainly not punk or goth, so I'm always learning new bands through you that are amazing! this is certainly one of them.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Thanks man.
@thefuneralparade
@thefuneralparade 2 года назад
great job man.i love your style and way of thinking an such...very good.
@URBANPERMACULTURE
@URBANPERMACULTURE Год назад
Great video, good to see Killing Jokes attention to detail, originality and ethos being discussed. An amazing band with an incredible guitarist who's sound Jaz Coleman described as Fire from Heaven
@19boro76
@19boro76 3 года назад
Amazing, well-done mate!!! Great cover!!! Thumbs up :)
@tonymckenziecom
@tonymckenziecom 4 года назад
Thank you very much for the mention COT... appreciated... and a really cool video about the subject matter and all that stuff... very nice. Thanks.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Thanks Tony. Great footage.
@DanielHuman1996
@DanielHuman1996 3 года назад
Well done, you really nailed the feel and vocals!
@pittbrat7963
@pittbrat7963 4 года назад
Great episode and what an utterly killer band Killing Joke is-to this day. Back in the early 80's, as a headbanger, I got a lot of flak for liking bands like Killing Joke,, Siouxsie and also punk. Geordie is totally unique in all of his playing. The other members are nothing less either, which certainly explains the Killing Joke awesomness on all levels.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Glad you liked it. I did one on the banchees if you want to check it out?
@pittbrat7963
@pittbrat7963 4 года назад
@@CIRCLEOFTONE yeh, great one too! I'm slowly going through all of your vids! cheers
@greivus1
@greivus1 3 года назад
mate... ive just learned and in the process of learning a bunch of my fav killing joke tunes and you post this !! fkn great stuff lol
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 3 года назад
Awesome. Glad you found this place.
@greivus1
@greivus1 3 года назад
@@CIRCLEOFTONE ive been watching your channel for ages, i just havent had the urge or a reason to comment before. keep on keeping on mate.
@nicholaspetergagg7769
@nicholaspetergagg7769 4 года назад
Killing Jokes Geordie has influenced many industrial and metal bands but none of them have his sound, it is massive and has an amazing clarity and is more of a punk sound which cuts through the mix.He should be more discussed in guitar forums especially his use of uncommon chords.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Agreed.
@The_Macaroon
@The_Macaroon 4 года назад
I'd love to hear more about the chords used
@Bansidhe
@Bansidhe 4 года назад
The combination of the hollowbody and P90 lends itself to using those odd chords and still having the diction in the notes.
@shadrawk1
@shadrawk1 4 года назад
I'm really loving this series. So much interesting information. Great job!
@ianguest2011
@ianguest2011 4 года назад
Along with Piggy (Voivod) and John McGeoch Geordie was an unsung guitar hero of the eighties. All three of these guys were masters of dissonance and unusual chord voicings.
@KyOte13
@KyOte13 2 года назад
My favorite player of all time... no one makes a guitar sing like Geordie Walker. Great Video
@rogercorman264
@rogercorman264 4 года назад
Love the comments about Raven. Back in 1990 at a NYC release party for the Killing Joke Vinyl Box Set (of the first 5 albums) I met Geordie, Martin Atkins (who was playing drums at the time), & Paul Raven. Paul actually hung out with my girlfriend & I, buying us drinks & hitting on her which I didn't care about because he accepted a demo of my punk band. :D RIP Raven.
@TheRaptorXX
@TheRaptorXX 4 года назад
Years ago I remember Geordie, arseholed, just before he went onstage, looks down at his guitar roadie and says, "Which IS stage right and stage left?". Clacssic rock 'n' roll moments of our time. I had no option but to just applaud him and smile. John Peel? The man who gave it all to UK youngsters in the grey UK 1970's. It's pissing down here right now, by the way!
@TheRaptorXX
@TheRaptorXX 4 года назад
Oh yeah, the Youth bassline in 'Tension'. Fucking evil to this day.
@aaroncartlidge
@aaroncartlidge 4 года назад
Great video! I actually inherited a bass flight case that Dave Ball used to use. Still has all of the luggage stickers on and the joker logo painted inside!
@TheChadTI
@TheChadTI 7 месяцев назад
Nice job man!!
@maxinemckenzie5765
@maxinemckenzie5765 4 года назад
Nice analysis Man. Killing Joke rock. Well played too. Stay Well. 🎼🎸🎶🏰🎭🎶🃏
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Thanks Maxine.
@benday1218
@benday1218 4 года назад
Thanks for this enjoyable watch. I'm in my early 40's, and really have only had passing knowledge of KJ up until this lockdown started. They are hidden somehow, as I've been a music fan all my life. I've been watching a lot of videos. What makes them a heavy band in my view is their intensity - it's incredible. Massive respect for Geordie's playing - heavy, melodic, clever.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
It's a great rabbit hole up go down. They have fingers in a lot of pies.
@The_Macaroon
@The_Macaroon 4 года назад
What a tune that is. Remember buying it on 12 inch. Will enjoy this video when I get home. Great choice!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Thanks man
@Xythantiops
@Xythantiops 4 года назад
Good video. Just to clarify, despite what it says in the documentary, it was actually the reception area of `Melody Maker` where Jaz did his infamous liver dump-They used to have a kind of indie music Gossip Column called TTT every week in the publication and they printed a picture of Jaz in a swimming pool from a few years earlier and made some disparaging comments- He was one of their regular targets because he was so outspoken and disparaging of the music press and they used to use it to get back at him i guess- but the funny thing is is that the Melody Maker were probably the most supportive music paper (followed by `Sounds` )of the band at the time- especially in the mid-eighties- they seemed to have a love/hate relationship with the band- In the end of year readers polls that they used to run KJ would often get `Best live act.`
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Awesome info. Thanks man.
@michaelmagnuson2607
@michaelmagnuson2607 4 года назад
Awesome job on this video!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Cheers Mike
@jorrickthole6505
@jorrickthole6505 4 года назад
Awesome and super informative as always!!!🤘Id love to see you do the tone for Morgoth's 1993 "Odium" album.
@hardrockindaddy
@hardrockindaddy 4 года назад
you killed it
@nickmaatjes5611
@nickmaatjes5611 4 года назад
oh dude a goth broth episode on killing joke, what a treat!!!!
@alejandrohualdez5550
@alejandrohualdez5550 4 года назад
I remember being 14 and playing the Love Like Blood and Kings and Queens singles again and again....I'd never heard anything like that before!!!
@blasperez7764
@blasperez7764 4 года назад
Thanks for this vid! Killing Joke!
@countiblis1246
@countiblis1246 2 года назад
circa 17:30 The average frequency of the earth (the Schumann Resonance) is 7.83 Hertz btw.
@CobyBassett
@CobyBassett 4 года назад
You're killing it with this series! I'd love to see you cover Adam & the Ants. I'm not sure if Marco Pirroni has a particular signature sound (between the spaghetti-western twang and the punkier riffs and feedback) but you could discuss his playing style, songwriting, gear, impact, etc. My favorites are from the Ants era (Press Darlings, Beat My Guest, Prince Charming, Physical) but Marco rules on the solo stuff as well.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Yep I've already researched his gear. It's hard to track down. I was obsessed with that band.
@kieron63
@kieron63 2 года назад
Youth was bass player until mid '82 and he's been back full-time since Raven's death!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад
Yeah I didn't menton him enough.
@AtticusStount
@AtticusStount 4 года назад
Next: Fields of The Nephilim.
@quazimodo1973
@quazimodo1973 4 года назад
paul raven was in prong omg!!! i never new that.... i loved the first prong album man
@Patrick-ss9td
@Patrick-ss9td 11 месяцев назад
This is a great channel.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 11 месяцев назад
Thanks man
@dezb1
@dezb1 4 года назад
Haven't watched this yet but YES! Geordie is the man... EIGHTIES!
@replaceablehead
@replaceablehead 4 года назад
I feel like if you did Dan Ash that would round things out.
@georgecurtis160
@georgecurtis160 3 года назад
Such a good video you should do more like this
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 3 года назад
Thanks George. Glad you like it man.
@HeavyMetalTones
@HeavyMetalTones 4 года назад
As I said many episodes ago he is the most exquisite guitars of the past 40 years and well done for trying to get to Jaz vocals tough gig. Spent a very pleasant afternoon with jazz uncle back in the 90’s at his local pub
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
That's awesome man. Glad you liked it
@BoneMachine28
@BoneMachine28 4 года назад
Congrats for the awesome work put into these Goth Broth series. You should give a chance to Fields Of The Nephilim, anything from The Nephilim album or from Elizium. They're probably one of the most underrated bands from this 80s genre, their sound was huge. The album Elizium was recorded by Andy Jackson, known for his work with Pink Floyd. Even Robert Plant from Led Zeppelin was a big fan of the band.
@schattenheim
@schattenheim 4 года назад
What a great band -you did a amazing job!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Thanks man!
@schattenheim
@schattenheim 4 года назад
CIRCLE OF TONE. :-) I would love to hear your work on Garland from Cocteau Twins :-)
@Caveira138
@Caveira138 4 года назад
Great tone on this one!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Thanks!
@philhardy18
@philhardy18 4 года назад
Great job again Owen , nice work son
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Cheers Phil.
@m00plank90
@m00plank90 4 года назад
Love KJ. This was a great vid.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
EDIT: Just found out about the death of Geordie. Gutted. What a massive loss to art and sub culture. RIP. Here is the tribute to Paul Raven ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9VQwX9h6kWo.html
@HeavyMetalTones
@HeavyMetalTones 4 года назад
I have listen to them since 1988 and the movie is amazing.. and Jaz is GOD
@HeavyMetalTones
@HeavyMetalTones 4 года назад
Hey dude Raven is important but Youth is the real beat as he loved Dub and reggae.. so let’s not over look he’s genius
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
@@HeavyMetalTones yep I should have mentioned him more. It's more about the 80's era but when I talked about the Peel track I should have mentioned him.
@rikantony6571
@rikantony6571 4 года назад
u didnt mention youth the original bass player......
@rikantony6571
@rikantony6571 4 года назад
he was a big part of their early sound.
@bennyshambles
@bennyshambles 4 года назад
A couple more of Killing Joke’s interesting sonic attributes you didn’t mention: A) Jaz Coleman’s Oberheim OB-X synthesizer. Their secret weapon that punctuates all my favorite tracks from the first five albums. A legendary synthesizer in its own right, it’s incredibly cool how Jaz incorporated it into their music. B) Martin “Youth” Glover, their original bass player and founding member. While I’m sure they were all massive dub reggae enthusiasts, Youth’s entire vibe was right up there with Jah Wobble as far as the whole Punky Reggae/White Boy Reggae/Post-Punk Dub thing goes. Amazing basslines and style.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Yep. Good points. Thanks
@davidmunoz8215
@davidmunoz8215 4 года назад
You did it, nice job
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Cheers Dave
@davelanciani-dimaensionx
@davelanciani-dimaensionx 4 года назад
LOVE Killing Joke! Geordie is brilliant. So unique in both sound and musical choices. Jazz is crazy. Influenced everyone from Metallica to Ministry to Fear Factory and Godflesh.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Agreed. Amazing band with not enough press imo.
@Peter-by3ox
@Peter-by3ox 4 года назад
the morris dancers made me laugh so much English haka lol. Great vid my knowledge of KJ was limited to Communion etc so was really interesting watch and listen
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Lol. Could not resist.
@Reprodestruxion
@Reprodestruxion 7 месяцев назад
Getting my NIN Robin Finck fan friend into your channel
@jeremyjames8678
@jeremyjames8678 3 года назад
Saw them live a couple times in the early 80's, amazing band
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 3 года назад
I would love to have seen them in thier prime.
@MK-oz2lf
@MK-oz2lf 4 года назад
Tom Morello I was surprised to learn that he uses the single coil neck pickup for rhythms on all his guitars like all Walker along too. For solos he barely ever switches to the bridge. When I picked up Killing Joke's recent record Pylon a few years back, not only did I like it, I was intrigued on how great it sounded for high gain for P90s pickups. It sounds like he is using the neck pickup on it too, not sure but still, it's different versus what most are doing in the modern era.
@Definesolitude
@Definesolitude 4 года назад
What about The Chameleons and Cocteau Twins? Love your vids! Full of great stories and nostalgic music. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Good shout. Thanks man.
@patvanderreest7416
@patvanderreest7416 4 года назад
Another great episode! If you feel like doing requests, how about Herbage from Department S.? Sure, they took a huge step away from the punk roots of the scene in their looks, but they definitely nailed the Zeitgeist with their sound and lyrics. And much as "Is Vic there?" is probably their only well-known song - "I Want" is so much better! Amazingly, they are actually still making music, too.
@christophersanders5007
@christophersanders5007 Год назад
I think Raven was the one that figured out how to play bass to Gordie's guitar. Gordie's guitar playing is so unusual that many bass players would be mystified on how to play bass to it. I think Youth heard what Raven was doing on the bass, and he got it. When Raven passed, and Youth came back in Youth was able to pick up right away with what to do with the bass.
@Gibboncore
@Gibboncore 4 года назад
I remember most of all how much the Burman head weighed... and the cab was the heaviest cab I have ever moved... don't remember it being that great at generating an overdriven sound... but that was over 3 decades ago... Peel introduced me to Killing Joke... amongst others and Requiem for me still is one of the best songs ever...
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Peel was amazing. I bought his book on 4 track recording another lifetime ago.
@whssy
@whssy 4 года назад
I only found this stuff out about Jaz a couple of years ago. Absolute genius.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Agreed.
@robinvanderpool
@robinvanderpool 2 года назад
Great...thanks
@nihilvoid4112
@nihilvoid4112 4 года назад
He actually switches from bridge to the middle position on that “live at the tube” video. I haven’t actually seen any occasion where he used just the neck pickup on its own, but the middle position (apart from being hum cancelling) is his go to rhythm tone, and flicks over to bridge for a more aggressive tone. Another good example is Frenzy, you can really hear the difference from when he’s in the middle position to the bridge. The PA:CE/Bell ADT has a very interesting history too, the original pedals actually had four delay lines and was designed to be a tri chorus/true double tracking type effect. Once PA:CE bought them out and release the desktop unit version, the circuit was completely changed. The ones Geordie uses are actually very similar to the Deluxe Memory Man, it uses a single MN3005 delay chip with an LFO to modulate the delay time, it’s basically a chorus/flanger but with a super long delay time range. He did switch to some sort of rack units from the mid 80s onwards too (you can see them on the side of the stage with the ADT units on top of them), but I’ve been unable to find out or confirm what these effects were.
@brianb4877
@brianb4877 4 года назад
hell yeah dude!
@Shadow_Demon_X
@Shadow_Demon_X 4 года назад
Could you perhaps go into detail about the individual effects or instruments parts?!?
@bbtb785
@bbtb785 4 года назад
Play "Eighties" and then transition into "Come as you Are".
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Hehe.
@davecity
@davecity 4 года назад
Or “Life Goes On”
@The1stMrJohn
@The1stMrJohn 4 года назад
Hahahaha 👍
@michaelcottle6270
@michaelcottle6270 4 года назад
Total Nirvana rip-off. But KJ were sneaky and did it five years earlier
@The1stMrJohn
@The1stMrJohn 4 года назад
@@michaelcottle6270 😱👍😀
@quazimodo1973
@quazimodo1973 4 года назад
i went down the paul raven rabbit holle for a bit... im blown away by how much ive missed out on... wow
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Awesome
@DennisMollanOfficial
@DennisMollanOfficial 4 года назад
Amazing
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Cheers! You guys are awesome.
@arthurivex2298
@arthurivex2298 3 года назад
Love the series. Especially Killing Joke.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 3 года назад
Glad you like it man.
@FrancisF23
@FrancisF23 4 года назад
Bill Nelson used a Burman amp on the 1978 album "Sound on Sound". Not quite Goth, but New Wave at its finest.
@KyOte13
@KyOte13 2 года назад
May I recommend for the next two in the Goth Broth Series... Fields Of The Nephilim & Daniel Ash of Bauhaus?
@antigen4
@antigen4 4 года назад
aye aye on the micing advice captain!! so true - if everyone would get their heads out of their arses when it came to 'tone' and looked for it where it really lives and not in the finish or wood of the guitar or coils in pickups wound from virgins in the hills
@Tacklebox455
@Tacklebox455 4 года назад
Hells yes!
@EliseOfTheValley
@EliseOfTheValley 4 года назад
The wait is one of the raddest songs ever written
@stephenparry6811
@stephenparry6811 3 года назад
has an absolutely awesome in ya face raw synth intro: love it
@68Warpigs
@68Warpigs Год назад
You mention at 19:35 that Raven couldn't go back to the UK.. I saw him play for the last time with KJ a couple of months before he died at the Astoria, unless I'm misunderstanding you. Fun fact if nobody has mentioned it, Nirvana stole their riff for Come as You Are from Killing Joke's Eighties, Jaz scrubbed it off after Kurt's death. Personally, I think you'll find most people that say they hate Jaz because they're fucking terrified of him. If you've met him he's a very big and very intimidating commodity, you'd have to be nuts to sit opposed to him as a journalist and tell him what you think he'd literally tear you to pieces. Also, I'm not an instrument tech so I have no clue, but one thing about Geordie has always fascinated me and that's his stroke of the strings. I've stood 4 feet in front of him for ages watching this delicate gentle waver that he uses to stroke his strings, I don't know what the tech-heads call that but it's unlike anything I've ever seen in any other guitar player. One last thing (again bear with me I don't know) but 'apparently' part of Geordies unique sound is because his guitar is deliberately de-tuned, I heard that somewhere a long time ago, thought it may have been mentioned here, maybe it's not a thing. Another great watch thanks for this one.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE Год назад
I took that Raven info re passports from an interview with Jaz. Well said re Geordies style. It's almost like a balladeer strum from folk. I never thought about it. All I know is that I'm a good guitarist and I sounded clunky compared to him. It's aggressive and graceful at the same time.
@podfuk
@podfuk Год назад
The Damned used this riff in Life goes on before Killing Joke and there was band from 60s using it even before them, but Cobain definetly riped off Kiling Jokes version, just slow it down and used more chorus
@AtticusStount
@AtticusStount 4 года назад
Come, as you are, as you were... Ahem, I mean, Eighties.
@allmostmedieval
@allmostmedieval 4 года назад
great postI have been chasing the dragon of geordies tone for years, and owned 4 paice adt units and they really are a one of a kind effect although I have never been able to own 2 adt,s at the same time though!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Very cool. They are so rare.
@allmostmedieval
@allmostmedieval 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jtwzGXXC5ps.html rough take of our Killing Joke covers band if you are interested...
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
That was awesome
@hell_on_earth
@hell_on_earth 4 года назад
Love your channel...... Maybe Fields of the Nephilim on the next Goth Broth... That would be great....
@cirezetroc1905
@cirezetroc1905 4 года назад
Love The Young Ones shirt
@skatedd2451
@skatedd2451 2 года назад
Yes question everything that's why are you love Killing Joke
@cirezetroc1905
@cirezetroc1905 4 года назад
Please do the G Walker vid style w the tunings and arpeggio styles
@slavesforging5361
@slavesforging5361 4 года назад
Is that you clipping the mic, the input, or some added saturation in mixing on your vocals? sounds great! I've lived off of I-95 in three different states, Massachusetts, Florida, and North Carolina! Shit... and Rhode Island briefly!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Yep it's analog clipping my 1073 style pre is a Chameleon Labs preamp into a dbx 160 compressor. I like it too. I'm going to be hitting I95 today. Hehe
@slavesforging5361
@slavesforging5361 4 года назад
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Nice. thought that sounded analog. checking out the Chameleon labs stuff right now (of course). my favorite analog distortion is when i clip the crap out of my old 90's Carvin studio mixer board and the inputs on my focusrite scarlett interface. I get that really old school sounding smooth clipping saturation. was really happy when i did that by accident recording a quick DI, and was glad i was monitoring when i did it. lol.
@riffsnoleads
@riffsnoleads 4 года назад
I am one of those losers who found out about Killing Joke from Metallica. Not even mad or ashamed about it, this band kicks ass and I am happy to have found them, no matter the route. I am also one of those bridge = rhythm/neck = lead pickup goons.... at least for metal/high gain. More rockin/low gain tones, definitely best to go the traditional way. Concerning your "where is the weird setups/gear" (paraphrase) section, I would like to mention that noise/grind bands (usually with silly subgenre names. ie - mince, splatter, gore, etc etc) use all sorts of whacky gear. Usually due to monetary issues, but there is definitely cool shit sometimes, but you are also correct in that most people just use the basics. I definitely use the SM57, but fuck Vintage 30's. Eminence Wizards, baby. Or Creambacks if you can swing the cash.
@THEQueeferSutherland
@THEQueeferSutherland 4 года назад
My favorite Nirvana song.
@davidellis5141
@davidellis5141 4 года назад
Nirvana gave the royalties from Come As You Are single To Killing Joke. Foo Fighters covered " Requiem "
@williamhayse3685
@williamhayse3685 4 года назад
@@davidellis5141 They should both be paying royalties to The Damned for Life Goes On. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TaDbMZlN2Pg.html
@wilsoncrocker
@wilsoncrocker 4 года назад
@@williamhayse3685 yeh.... but always remember, this is the happiest day of your life...
@baabaabaa2293
@baabaabaa2293 Год назад
Hey mate!! I just came upon your channel via searching Mcgeoch, Magazine & Banshees songs..gd job!! Dunno how youd've gone saying Joke were goth in 79/80? def anarcho punk, as their early gigs will show. What about Bauhaus or the Birthday Party? Tracy Pews baselines are priceless!! So is the whole band tho...luv the analysis of gear used (& yer rant was spot on!). Wish ld caught you 3yrs back...but cheers anyhow! Question everything!✌️
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE Год назад
Yep great suggestions. Glad you liked the vid. There is a lot of goth in KJ. Check it out ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TMuLO2jDmNc.html
@baabaabaa2293
@baabaabaa2293 Год назад
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Absolutely mate!! Ill sub & do a bit of bingeing!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE Год назад
@@baabaabaa2293 check out the goth aspect of KJ that goes underlooked ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TMuLO2jDmNc.html
@baabaabaa2293
@baabaabaa2293 Год назад
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Wintergarden!! Yeah l see what ya mean! Cd be the Cure til Jaz comes in.. KJ are a brilliant band, l thought they were goin a bit soft.. then they bought Pandemonium out!! Thanks mate..no doubt we'll yak soon!✌️
@tonyoreilly6718
@tonyoreilly6718 4 года назад
you seem to forget to mention Youth & Geordie plays a lot of the bass on the demos
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Yep I was focusing on eighties era but I thought to myself that I should have metioned the original bass player wedged talking abput the demo etc.
@Bansidhe
@Bansidhe 4 года назад
I saw the "Death & Resurrection Show" film a few years back. I'm sure he actually started spouting off in Latin during the NME incident.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 года назад
Haha.
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