Not even close. Ultraphobic kicks DED ass. Even Jani said it was his nest work...years after he was out of warrant , so he wasn't I\st blowing smoke trying too boost album sales.
I remember Use Your Illusion I & II both getting five star reviews in Metal Hammer. Baffling, but proof that the hype was working. Both albums are selfindulgent, undisciplined, no quality control, scraping the barrel exercises of unhinged egomania. And yet it paid off commercially. The GnR brand was built on sleazy hard rock so solid and genuine that the image was still strong enough to carry those two turds from 1991 to the top of the charts for years hence. They used absolutely EVERYTHING they had, mimicking The Beatles´ wildly overrated White Album from 23 years prior when the Fab Four scrapped quality control in favour of selling more albums, quantity over quality, GnR style from 23 years later. Now back to the future: Aerosmith copied the Guns´n Roses Use Your Illusion formula of releasing ballads with expensive videos for rotation on MTV, while still pretending to be a rock band. It carried them for the rest of the decade, until the oublic grew tired of the routine. Then they became a nostalgia act, just like Guns´n Roses have been over the last decade.
guru…thats awesome u addressed my question. that one effort by u, shows why your channel will always have a devoted viewership. u actually care what your viewers care about. thank u for what you gave our country, and thank u for your content. you have a viewer for life. perhaps if bob rock didn't muddy the production of subhuman, you may enjoy face against my soul, or iron will. the guitar work on the record is phenomenal. surprised these didn't make the list: vicious circle - la guns hollyweird - poison revolution - slaughter marching to mars - sammy hagar (first album after he got the boot from vh) slash's snakepit def leppard - songs from the sparkle lounge europe - start from the dark
Hey, Patrick, thank you for the kind words and support man. Seriously. I actually took "Hollyweird" off at the last minute, but, wow, what a shitshow that was... at least production wise. I really haven't gotten into anything from Def Leppard since "Euphoria," so I really haven't listened to the "Sparkle Lounge" album. Anyway, thanks again man, I appreciate you.
Absolutely agreed on the Sweet F.A. second album. I didn't think it was awful, just flat and boring. Disagree with White Lion's Big Game album. I thought it was a solid album - particularly the songs Living On The Edge and If My Mind Is Evil.
New Tattoo from Crue is a cool album. They sound relaxed and existing "in the moment". They sound like the enjoyed the experience of writing songs and not worried about writing a "hit song."
I totally agree. I saw them on the 1st cd tour in san Diego twice. They kicked ass. Slave your body is the baddest song on the 2nd cd. Their new song wrecking machine kick ass. Their last cd was weak. The new cd is ok for the 1st listen but wrecking machine is killer.
Definitely a valid point here. I actually just listened to Nothing Sacred a couple days ago. I do like it, but, yeah, completely different than the debut. They were trying for a hit it seems. Thanks for watching, man.
The Illusions project didn't need to be a double album. If they had just cut the fat and put all the best material from both albums into one, they would have had a masterpiece. As it is, for me at least, Illusions 1&2 are just bloated, uneven, and pretentious. Dont get me wrong - theres some great stuff on both. But theres also just sooo much filler too. Compared to the magic on Appetite it's like listening to a different band entirely.
As wierd as it sounds... The absence of Steven " Popcorn" Adler. He was a nontraditional, swingin, unschooled semi sloppy drummer, which was a magic ingredient. I have spent some time thinkin about this, Sorum is a good pro drummer. And that is part of the problem.
@@saltpeter7429 That's a good point. Compared to the debut, the production on those albums was waaayyy too polished. It's like they were trying to be Queen or something!
Love the Content, Hair Metal Guru. Would love to see a deep dive in some of the lesser known hair metal bands with album rankings and review newer hair metal releases from the past 10 years.
I was a big fan of Def Leppard at the time and remember the upcoming Adrenalize release. I bought every CD single that was released for that album; as well as the album itself. The album was rather meh and feels like Hysteria 2.0. There were some good tracks. Lets get rocked was catchy in a Pour Some Sugar on Me way. White Lightning was Gods of War 2.0 and a good tribute song. Tear it Down was a great closing track. With that said, most of the b-sides on their singles were much better; and most ended up on Retroactive.
Dude, hitting 10,000 would be a dream... I don't know that I see that happening, but, man, I appreciate you believing it. Seriously, thank you for supporting what I do, I mean that.
Agree with most things here, love the channel. But "Adrenalize" is the answer to Hysteria. Yes, it's a bit corny in spots. But it's one catchy pop metal Lep song after another. I don't skip anything, even to this day. I remember when it came out and it was HUGE. Love it! I'm sure Ryan would agree haha
Btw Dave Snake Sabo recently released a statement regarding the state of Skid Row and whether Sebastian Bach would be invited back in the band. Dave’s basically copy and paste his previous statement. He said no, reason being Scotti, Rachel and myself are very happy now. They are on the look out for brand new singer. They did address Lizzy Hales contribution to their latest shows.
of the 5 songs ive heard of the ill-fated ozone monday album, id say maybe its time to put those songs out and do ozone monday instead of another singer.
Actually Big Game was one of my favorite albums, But as for Big Game they were seriously pressured by the label to get it written and get it out fast. Mike said he always regretted giving into the pressure to do that. But most songs I thought were good. Cry for Freedom is a great song, and White Lion was always very political in their writing. Living on the Edge, Don't say its over, If my mind was evil.. Mane Attraction was the album that they wanted to make but they got zero support from the label by then. Mane Attraction was musically the best they ever did. Vito left because of the business side of it. He hated it. Adrenalize was good but lets be real I don't think DL ever could have followed up Pyro and Hysteria with something even better. But it was good. However, my favorite DL post Hysteria was Retro Active. 5150 is my favorite VH album. I saw the VH 3 tour and it was great. Gary was amazing live. I think the problem w/ 3 was Eddie was going through a lot of problems at that time. And VH didn't really know what they wanted to be at that time. As for Crue you gotta remember everytime Crue put out an album the scene had changed from the previous album. They came out kinda "shock rock" then by the time they were working on Theater the whole glam thing was really becoming big and Nikki the main song writer was really into his heroin at the time, so song writing wasn't the best, but I really love Micks guitar playing on the entire Theater album. Girls I thought was a good sleazy album which by then bands like the LA Guns/GNR, Faster Pussycat etc was really lighting up the Strip, it just always seemed Nikki was good at trying to be a little head of the curve on what was about to become big out of Hollywood.
Hey, thanks for sharing all these thoughts. Agreed on Mane Attraction, and you probably have a valid opinion on Eddie and the Van Halen III album. Hey, thanks a lot for watching, I really appreciate it.
I love that 3rd album by Bulletboys called "Za-za". Their first 2 albums were really good too. They consciously avoided putting out any ballads on their first 2 albums since all the other bands were doing that. Then on Za-za they wrote a couple which I thought were really good as well as the faster tracks.
Even though a lot of these albums kinda suck, i stil give praise to them for putting music out to the masses. I write music and nobody will here it. I had a band in the late 90s and life happened. We went knowhere. As 99% bands do end up. That aside, i give "HUGE PROPS" for bands doing what they do, even if its kinda sucky. Ive never had that opportunity to fail like that.
Hey, man, that's a completely valid point, and I totally agree. Most of us would love to be in the situation where we could put out an album... even if some consider it a disappointment. Hey, thanks for the perspective... and for watching.
A) I'm in a cover band and we do "mama told me not to come" & i hate the song 😆😆 B) the Bach/Skid thing almost the same reason Hanoi Rocks can't get it back together. Andy is hard to deal with. We'd all LOVE it, but for them... it ain't worth the headache.
Haha, do you struggle not to laugh every time you have say, "Mama told me not to come." Cause I fuckin' would. Completely agree on the Hanoi/Skid Row comparison. Money isn't worth your piece of mind. Thanks a lot for watching, Brother.
Subhuman Race was a big let down. I think touring with Pantera rubbed off on them. Unfortunately it was a bad move. I do love Breakin’ Down But that’s the only track that I love. That’s my pick. Keep up the great vids Anthony.
I saw the Skid Row/Pantera tour, and I remember thinking, "Why the fuck would you tour with a band like this?" Nothing against Pantera, but I don't think the average Skid Row fan wanted them touring with a thrash band... me included. Breakin' Down is my favorite on that album as well. Hey, man, thank you so much for the support, I really do appreciate it.
When night songs came out, I was a dirtbag shit working at McDonald's. There was this hot chic that worked there about 2 years older than me. I lasted only 11 months there. It would've been much shorter if she wasn't there. Damn she was hot. Anyway, Cinderella came out then. I love the album, but I think of that chic and McDLT's. "Back home again" was a great heavy song.
100% disagree with Motle Crues girls girls girls, love dancing on glass, all in the name of, sumthing for nothing, wild side, title track. Great crue album
I was probably a little harder on this album than I should've been. I think I place Girls in 3rd place after Too Fast for Love and Shout if I'm ranking the Vince Neil Motley albums. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it.
Shit, I just went and listened to it again, and it's definitely better than I implied. I don't know that I love it, but it's not shit. Thanks for watching, Heather.
Yeah, that was really bad. To be fair though George was pressured by the record company to label it a Lynch Mob album. They wouldn't release it otherwise. He should have insisted not to call it Lynch Mob so that it would have been shelved lol. Love George and respect that he wants to grow and try new things, but that album was really bad.
@@HairMetalGuru419 I bought it with an open mind. Metal Edge magazine even sponsored a contest on behalf of George where fans could submit their own ideas for the album cover and George would pick one. His only direction was "no skulls or snakes" since that had been done to death. I started working on a design but didn't finish it so I never submitted it. The album is basically a hip-hop rock type of record with George just contributing guitar samples. Looking back George jokes that it is his Lynch-Bizkit album and acknowledges it was a wrong move.
Sebastian needs to let it all go because the reunion is never going to happen. I’m a huge skid row and hate that Sebastian just can’t realize he is the problem. The reunion would’ve happened years ago if he could just stop talking
@@HairMetalGuru419 i love bas…just saw him on tues in connecticut. paid for the vip as well. he is the issue, and i don’t blame skid row at all. bas should be happy for the past, but focus on himself, and repairing his relationship with them. that bond would be far more important than any reunion.
Fantastic video, really great stuff. I read somewhere that the final straw for Seb Bach was when he told the press that Skid Row we’re gonna open for KISS on the reunion tour and the rest of the band refused? The band got pissed cause they thought they were too big to be an opening band . After Subhuman Race bombed I’d bet they wish they did agree to open for KISS 😂
Yeah, I've heard that KISS story--not sure why anyone would ever turn down a KISS tour, but, on the flip side, I understand the band being hesitant to get back with Bas--he can be a lot to handle.
I actually like Adrenaline, EXCEPT for Let's Get Rocked and Make Love Like a Man (which are two of the worst Def Leppard songs ever recorded). But Stand Up (Kick Love), I wanna touch you, and some of the other songs were very good. Granted, it was not Hysteria but, it was a decent album. I actually LOVE "Have you ever", to me it's their best ballad.
I know I loved "Have You Ever..." when it came out... I don't know that it's aged that well. And I did like Adrenalize when it came out, but I rarely revisit it these days..Thanks for watching.
I don’t think motley’s girls album is as bad as you guys think but when we all are these huge fans of those first two albums how can you seriously do any better than that. As far as the girls album goes I myself think that Wildside, girls, dancing on glass is cool. If you know what dancing on glass mean you should understand it. Your all I need could have changed the game on how all ballads go if mtv wouldn’t have banned it. All in the name of was their opening song on that tour and always have liked that one to except the opening line that Vince sings but the song is cool and fun. I know we all like what we like so I get it and I have to say my favorite motley albums are their first two. They freaking rule. So if I could make two amazing records in my life I would be in heaven. With all that said I also am a big fan of the Motley Corabi album in ‘94 and I enjoy saints of Los Angeles a lot. Would I like for the CRÜE to get back to there early sound hell yes but we all get older and change so I’m greatful for those first two albums so much because most bands back then was lucky to have gotten a record deal let alone record two fantastic albums. Love this channel and love to everybody ✌🏼
With an exception of a few songs from some of the grunge bands I thought then and still do think it was the most boring rock and roll of any decade. Come on guys Nirvana were the kings of the shoe gazers. I never bought into the lame and lazy way they would look, talk, act or played. Please someone explain to me how is it that Alice In Chains is a grudge band and released their debut album in August of 1990 and with a big hit man in the box and was all over the radio and mtv yet nirvana doesn’t breakout until late ‘91 and the are crowned as breaking the grunge thing. As a music fan that has never added up. Alice In Chains is the band that broke that different sound and look and feel. Nirvana is so overrated it’s sickening. I’m 52 years old and have never met anyone that has went and seen nirvana live back in the day. I know I’m ranting but damn it I’m passionate about the things I love lol✌🏼🙏🏼🤘🏽
Hey, I tend to agree. I actually do like Girls... there may be a couple filler songs, but it's dramatically better than Theater of Pain, and I actually think I like it better than Dr. Feelgood as well. And thanks for the kind words, Brother!
I can agree with about most of your opinions but I love Use your Illusion!! Love the different songs and variety!! And it brings back tons of memories!!!
I love it as well..." Raise your hands to rock!!" Granted I was about 8 years old when I first got it, but hell its been a few decades since and I still like it.
I love that cd. I was disappointed when i first heard it but grew to love it quick. Fight is my fav on it. Tonight we need a lover kicksass. Is destroys girls.
I love it too. I rate it higher than Girls. Songs like "Louder than Hell", "Keep Your Eye on the Money", "City Boy Blues", "Tonight We Need a Lover", and "Save Our Souls" all amazing deep tracks. Mick's guitar tone sounds phenomenal. I believe this is the first album where Tommy got the big drum kit so the drums sound really grand too. "Save Our Souls" was even featured in a horror movie soundtrack "Demons". Love the 2 singles "Home Sweet Home" and "Smokin" also.
Bob rock screwed up the skid row subhuman race album. I’ve heard Rachel say a few times that he didn’t think Bob rock even wanted to be there. It sucks Sebastian’s ego is so huge. I get why they band don’t want him
@@HairMetalGuru419 it shoes how the band feels that when they released the greatest hits, demo’s and live versions were all the tracks released from it. i personally adore subhuman race…and maybe its my life experience with the record. but if you have not heard it in a long time, maybe give it another try?
13:08 Maybe Dave had a part in the arrangements as far as connecting riffs to choruses etc, but it was very clear when he went solo that the Van Halen brothers were much better at coming up with the building blocks of songs than Dave's ultra-mega-super duper talented solo band.
I called the death of GNR the day I heard that Izzy left. Not because I don't love Slash and Duff, and liked somewhat liked Axl... loved on AFD... but yeah, there was no one two write the songs once Izzy left. At least not an album's worth. Have you listened to Izzy's solo stuff. Really really good. Not hair metal. Nothing will blow you away. But it's really solid.... especially 117° ! Thanks for the reviews... er... list... countdown? Whatever this was, it was fun... I agreed with almost all of it. Thing is... I have one thought about stuff now at 49... but my 13 to 18 year old self has a bit of a different opinion. For example, got into Motley with GGG... then went back to the rest of the catalog. So love Too Fast and Shout... not so much Theatre. I agree that GGG isn't too great when I listen to it now... but my 14 year old self still loves it! ;p Oh... and LOVE Heartbreak Station! :). It's not LCW, but still love it. But Still Climbing is better.
There is some good stuff on VHIII. "Year to the Day" is amazing. "From Afar" is great. I have a recording on VHS of VH playing live in Australia with Gary on vocals. I think it aired on VH1. You have to give Gary credit. He is the one that got VH playing live the old deep Roth tracks that they never hardly played, such as "Hear About it Later" and "Romeo Delight". Gary is a big fan of the Roth era of VH. During this Australian live show they played "Mean Street" and "Unchained" along with many of the new tunes. The live version of "Year to the Day" will melt your face off with Eddie's amazing blues solo. The only Sammy song they did was "Why Can't this Be Love" and during that they took turns singing the verses with even Eddie singing one verse.
Another good one. I just really find these videos enjoying to hear you talk with these friends about the music you love, and the analysis and back and forth. If you have a chance, check out the latest ASKA song Soul Stealer. Given your enjoyment from raspy voiced great singers, think you'd dig this.
Hey, Craig, thanks a lot for the kind words... seriously, I really appreciate it. I will definitely check that tune out, thanks for the recommendation, man.
Girls 3 was an up tick from TOP , by far . Wild Side and Girls instant classics , dig in All in name of and All I Need shoulda been big if video wasn’t squashed . Of Guns would have combined Use Illusions to one say 13 track record , would have rivaled Appetite .
Theater of Pain was my first major disappointment, when I went to the record store to buy the album, after Shout, and looked at the way they were dressed and saw Smoking in the Boys Room, and I walked out without buying it. Good point about Girls, like Gary, I think of it as pretty good because of those first two songs, but you're right about the rest.
Love Chinese Democracy! Underratred album in my opinion.Most of the songs are amazing.theres a couple that are ok but most of its great! Spaghetti incident also great!
Theatre of Pain is a terrible album much worse than Girls,Girls, Girls, there is nothing on TOP that is passable even the 2 okay songs are terrible. Agree that Adrenalize is rubbish, only Stand up kick love into motion is any good the rest is just horrible early 90s dross
I actually like Girls... it's probably my 3rd favorite Vince album after the first two. Agreed, it's dramatically better than Theater. Hey, thanks for watching, man.
I actually dig New Tattoo. If I Die Tomorrow from Red, White & Crue and songs from Saints of L.A. like S.O.L.A., Down at the Whisky, Just Another Psycho and White Trash Circus. All Bad Things Must Die rocks!
Hi Guru, great video , recently suscribed. Agree with both your opions, but for Def Leppard's Adrenalize, i would've swapped it with SLANG, now that was a disappointing piece of trash. Keep em videos coming, hopefully a "album with killer and no filler" some day? Regards Tony
most people hate slang, but i loved it for moving away from the stupidity of adrenalize. it sounded fresh, grown up, and well written. songs like work it out, gift of flesh, and blood runs cold are fantastic. i dont think anyone was waiting to see what def leppard was going to do, and have moved on. but for those of us ready for it, it was awesome.
@@patrickreeves4650 yes i agree, Adrenalize was cheesy,corny but even missing the Steve Clarke influence , you can still tell its Def Leppard. Slang on the other hand, its harder to tell, they even removed the iconic logo from the album's cover, it was a commercial failure and fans didnt like it. They then had to revert to a more original sound on their follow up, EUPHORIA, including the return of the iconic logo on the album cover.
Hey, Tony, thanks a lot for supporting the channel, man, I really do appreciate it. Yeah, it would've been easy to put in "Slang," because I am NOT a fan. I tried to stick to things that were put out during the hair metal era, but I agree with you completely. As far as the "all killer no filler" episode... I put it on the list man... it'll happen at some point. Thanks, Brother.
I genuinely LOVE "Subhuman Race". If you listen to the earlier mixes of those songs from the Best Of, they're more of a "Slave..." sound, but the later remix was looser, harsher. The band have said they think Bob Rock used "Subhuman Race" as an experiment before doing ",St Anger" with Metallica.
Man, St. Anger is a bigger shitshow than Subhuman Race! I'd never heard that before, so thanks for the info... and thanks for watching, man, I appreciate it.
A lot of people love Def Leppard's Hysteria, but honestly for me that album was a big let down. Pyromania was my introduction to the band and then I went back and got High n Dry and On Through the Night which I still love. Then there was like a 5 year pause due to all the issues with the band and there was a lot of excitement waiting for Hysteria to come out. I first heard "Women" on the radio and really liked that one so I bought the cassette expecting the rest of the album to be similar. The tracks I like include "Rocket", "Gods of War", "Women", and I can even tolerate "Animal" but I was really disappointed with the rest. To be fair, many of the other tracks such as "Pour Some Sugar on Me" sound better live with the raw guitars. I bought the VHS live video that came out around that time "Live-In the Round In Your Face" and those tracks were at least tolerable. On a side note: does anyone remember having trouble with the clear plastic cassettes back in the day? Cassettes were usually manufactured with the solid white plastic casing but after awhile some companies started making the clear ones with the paper inserts that had the track listings. I had a lot of trouble with those. They would jam in my tape players. I started taking the screws out and removing the inserts and then putting them back together and then they would play better. I remember having Black n Blue's Nasty Nasty cassette that wasn't even very old and jammed up in my stereo until I did that remedy.
@@HairMetalGuru419 Not sure why I was unfortunate to have so much trouble with those clear cassettes. I kept my tape players clean and rarely had issues with the white plastic tapes.
Van Halen 3 is in my top 5 VH albums. I loved a new sound from them . Use your illusion 1& 2 are Great , minus Dont cry , Knockin on heavens door , My world , You aint the 1st & November Rain. Warrant's D.E.D is my least favorite. It is over polished and has no real feel. Born again has a more raw , lose authentic feel than it does , & most people hate that album.
I'm not a guitar player, but I think you know what I mean. Even if the old stuff was tuned down to a D, it doesn't sound as low as stuff that I consider 'downtuned' like Sabbath or Alice in Chains. Maybe they played their shit on the A string vs the E. Anyway, thanks for the info.
Off the top of my head - Shy - Misspent Youth. Awful production kills it. TNT - Intuition. A couple of decent songs but not a patch on Tell No Tales. White Lion - Big Game. Just terrible. Motley Crue - Theater of Pain. Just no. Warrant - Ultraphobic. Dog Eat Dog was excellent. This wasn’t. David Lee Roth - Skyscraper.
Generation Swine is the worse Hair metal album of all time. Cinderella was great at the start . I feel they are way overrated. Winger blows away Cinderella , and Poison. The Use Your Illusion albums have a ton of classsic GNR. Shame shame
Agreed about Generation Swine. Love Winter, but I also love Cinderella and Poison. The Illusion albums DO have some solid shit, but way too much filler. Thanks for watching, Brother.
i feel like everyone has a generation swine story. whether it was the trip to go buy it release night, going to see the tour, or hearing a song on the radio, we all remember where we were when we became disappointed with it!
Since when was GNR ever hair metal. They were a hard rock band that exploded in the middle of the hair band era. That being said, Use Your Illusion 2 is a great album. 1 is bloated and full of filler.