I literally just made my wife watch "The Fall of Reach." and the whole thing is that they flashed cloned children to secretly steal the spartan subjects. that was a rough one to miss lol.
@@Pigpen_YT Keep in mind the clones were never designed to fight as cloning in the Halo Universe is still very shoddy, most of the clones died a couple of months after being created and the ones that survived were crippled. As such, they couldn't use the clones as soldiers. They stole real children and replaced them with clones in order to cover up the disappearances.
The Spartan cloning facility is probably the facility where they flash cloned the kids who became the Spartans. Flash cloning is a thing but it pretty much gives the clone genetic degradation so they die very soon after being made.
I was hoping someone would point out, there is cloning in halo. The spartan 2s were kidnapped and replaced by clones that would get sick and die soon after, there was a young master chief clone at one point.
ohh right I totally forgot about that, where ONI would actually replace the kids they kidnapped so as to not arouse suspicion but the cloning process was either flawed or intended to have the kids die shortly afterwards. I almost wish there was some content about normal people making up conspiracy theories about ONI except they're totally right, like The X Files but in Halo
@@darkslayer1161 most of the kids did not survive to become spartans, so its better the parents watched them suddenly die vs the truth (relatively speaking, of course).
Also, the “Web-os” can have a double meaning cus “webos” in spanish also can be interpreted as “testicles”, that would explain the “Even your mom loves them” joke.
Around 45 minutes in, Sandtrap is always scary for me, mainly because in my ENTIRE LIFE (before early this year) I had never played on it with anyone else, no multiplayer, just forge. so I was always alone and felt trapped but learned to love the isolation got so weird that when I finally played an online mcc match, it just felt wrong, almost like a bunch of people invaded my house and started killing eachother. weird feelings just wanted to drop that, huge thanks for the amount of effort you put into these
Can confirm, every time I play Sandtrap online, I get the urge to waltz into some dude's house with all my buddies and have an all-out free for all melee.
@@NotCOPPAFTCA Have you actually looked into the facts behind all the hate? If not please do so and determine your own opinion on the matter. If you still wanna hate afterword that is your prerogative. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2MgZDUAQQzQ.html
9:07 The Vidmasters weren’t how you originally unlocked Recon, it’s how you unlocked it after Bungie made it free to the public. Originally, it was exclusive to Bungie staff, and for individuals granted the armor by Bungie. One guy got it for Sniping a guy on the Pit after his bullet ricochet’d in a crack about a dozen times before bouncing out. Another guy got it for launching a traffic cone at someone’s head and killing them. Or you could get it for making cool Halo content, like the creator of the Arby n the Chief series Jon CJG.
4:46 Not really, Craig wasn't meant to be mocking how the game looked unpolished. The meme was born in Plasma Posting, after Ali Kay, one of the mods just decided that we would call him that. Most people assumed it was to make fun of the game, but the original post never really meant that.
The original post may have not meant that, but that's certainly what happened to Craig after he became "mainstream"; a poster child/Brute for how unpolished Infinite looked.
I remember completely the VidMaster Challenges with my best friend Samantha and two online friends. Getting the Recon armour was awesome, but now thinking back to it I just love that we had fun together. Sam died about 2 years ago (drunk driver) she'd have loved Halo Infinite and everytime I play it or any other title in the franchise I just remember past. Rest in Peace, Samantha. You're still my favourite Spartan.
The rat having detailed insides is based off of a early design concept from Halo Combat Evolved development where being damaged after getting killed or getting super combined would have resulted in body parts being dismembered but the code was buried to not be used because of being considered extremely gory. But the concept was brought back in the novels and comics
@@cyber_dragon_123 facts. People will say "oh doom influenced every shooter" but don't actually know just the HUUUGE huge huge influence doom had on halo rather than other fps
Fun fact, on top of the tower in Halo Infinite, there is a small stage and an album cover with Craig’s face, you can interact with it and see a small poem written by Craig on the back. So the devs definitely loved the meme too.
Can’t blame you, since you said you don’t mess with the EU, but cloning is a big deal in the backstory of the Spartan II’s and Cortana. Still, great video. Side note: JD being rookie’s initials either means John Doe or Junior Detective.
I’ve seen nightfall years ago. Tbh I thought it was good because of how it showed a close team of soldiers slowly fall apart, go mad and turn on each other while trying to survive and complete an objective. Also it expanded upon how a LetkGolo colony works outside of their armor. Like I’m talking it was straight up horror shit. I don’t understand how younger me didn’t have nightmares of a pack of worms combining into a person micking human sounds and eating people alive. Like shit getting fuel rodded is 10x better then that hell.
i bought halo nightgfall from cex a few weeks ago for like 50p and honestly even at that price it was to expensive. I imagine if i'd of seen it when i was younger i might of enjoyed it but it just looks like absolute shit now adays
I own this...and only saw it once...because it was straight up horror and it didn't warn me. People can say what they want about Forward Unto Dawn but at least that has more rewatch value for me because it's not going out of its way to terrify me with an Eldritch horror. Horror of war is different than straight-up horror creatures.
54:38 I know you said you're not really into the lore, but this is why she was unavailable. During the fight for Reach, Linda took 3 charged plasma pistol shots and her vital signs were negative. Even though she was presumed dead, Chief still wanted to do his best to try and save her, so he put her in a cryopod in hopes that when they got to a ship with the proper medical facilities, they'd be able to recover her. Later on they ejected her cryopod with a tracker on it before the Pillar of Autumn crashed into the ring. After the end of Halo CE, Chief recovered her cryopod.
29:49 Its because Halo CE original plot was gonna have Cortana go obsessed with power after being left in the control room and then decides to take over the galaxy with the halo's. 1:30:35 HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT THERES NO CLONING IN HALO!? 1:35:48 the inspiration for johnson's suit is the one from halo legends prototype.
I have a strong suspicion that the “JD” initials for the Rookie simply stands for “John Doe”. I’m fact I’m willing to put money down saying that’s what was intended.
1:06:14 this is like my favourite trivia! In most cases, what most people call gargoyles are technically grotesques. They are almost exactly the same except gargoyles have water spouts, often in the mouth and connected to a roof’s drainage system.
THE GOD RETURNS! Quick Edit while watching: When Spartan BLACK was killed of by the Didact I was genuinely saddened. The fact we had those Gen 2 Spartans available for interesting story and conflict with the new Spartan Gen 4s and they just wasted all of it for a "oooh didact scary" moment. We barley got more than a comic mini-series worth of character development out of them, but just imagine the more interesting narrative that could have been crafted using a Spartan team that didn't act squeaky clean and were prone to violent outbursts. I know Blue Team basically deserts, but it doesn't make me feel any better.
You did mention you don't touch the Halo EU much but the great tragedy of Guilty Spark's existence is that he always lives while the world falls apart around him. From his original existence as Chakas to becoming the Monitor at the Iso-Didact's request to the destruction of Installation 04 and later 04B, Spark is cursed to live interesting times. It is for this reason I think it's for the better that he's alive, because in the end, the story of Halo is also his story: the story of a man out of his depth and completely, utterly alone - until one day, he isn't, and then he has to deal with that and the consequences of his own isolation.
Halo Reach's demo probably might still be playable after the others get shut down, the last I played it was back in 2020 with GeneralKidd on a livestream with viewers
I actually though the "Johnson but not Johnson" entry was about a secret enemy in Halo 4 on the mission "shutdown." In the hangar, if you kill all or at least most of the friendly NPCs in the room, a new enemy wielding a shotgun and looking suspiciously like Johnson would spawn in from a docked pelican. This of course could not be Johnson as it was well after his death in Halo 3, but I think it was just meant as a callback.
21:40 in Reach's sword base mission after getting a warthog for the second time the new marine says "one day I'll be the cyborg in a suit" to you and kat
I remember getting recon on my account with 3 friends, with that ghost run as our finale. It truly felt like the end of an Era and gaming has never been the same too me since. This Halo Infinite beta is starting too take me back though!
1:30:27 clones do exist in halo, The Spartan 2 program where MC was "recruited" they used flash clones of all the children they kidnapped in order to mask the program
I am so fucking angry that they rejected that pitch for Halo Wars 3, they just need to look at the plethora of Halo Mods for games about Space Combat. I am going to pop a vein
Oh man, the golden Warthog! I remember trying to get it on Sandtrap, it had something to do with the guardians, I didn't know I'd been duped And the driveable anti-air wraith, oh man the memories of Halo 3!
For the Cyborg Master Chief on the last piece of Tier 1, for some reason I remember somewhere in Halo 2 and or 3 in the handbooks or something where it confirms he's a cyborg. I guess you could technically say he's a cyborg since he has ceramic lacing his bones but then you could say anyone with a prosthetic is a cyborg, though he does also have the AI slot implanted in his head, which counts as a cybernetic enhancement I think.
58:13 i think this also refers to a "easter egg" in halo 4 on the mission shut down if you kill the Marines at the beginning of the mission at some point there's going to be a marine with a shotgun that looks like Johnson but really isn't him but still looks identical everything even the hat he wears
The most obscure piece of Halo lore is the "secret room" in Two Betrayals, which is basically a 4th unimplemented pulse generator. I'll be surprised if it's mentioned here.
47:27 Hi, Destiny player here. On behalf of the community I’m going to put out there that the sphere on the poster in ODST is the Traveler, not the moon. They did change it to the moon when they replaced it with the “For Her” poster though. Great video btw
I remember when I needed only the “endure” achievement to unlock the recon armor after endless hours of trying to get every achievement required. And then a week later they gave everyone recon armor for free lol
Hey Pigpen I recently found your channel and I've watched almost all of your icebergs. You're a very high quality content creator you deserve a ton more subscribers. If you happen to be a fan of the Resident Evil or Dead Rising series I'd love to see an iceberg of those. However I'd watch anything you're interested in. I'm not really a big fan of transformers and have never watched cowboy bepop but I still really enjoyed your videos on them. The way you put them together kept me invested.
11:47 It would have been between Floodgate and the Ark (I think) and involved Chief navigating through the Flood ship presumably to find Cortana's message and blow up the ship. However, after the original Cortana level was accidentally deleted with no backups, they had to hastily remake the level using those assets (which is why there are so few of High Charity's landmarks in Cortana). They cut this flood ship level as they obviously felt it would now be too similar to Cortana and just put it at the end of Floodgate. The original Cortana (I'm not sure on the validity of most of this, but the places I saw this from are reputable) level would have involved a fight against the infected Arbiters from the Mausoleum and a Scarab vs Gravemind bossfight I may be wrong about all of this, but I am 99% sure this is true.
I believe floodship was cut and merged with Floodgate due to poor pacing on their standard. There's a PowerPoint slide online of the original floodship map design that explain their level design process.
In halo 3 when you're shooting through that gap in the deployable cover, your not shooting through the gap. You're just shooting through the cover. The halo 3 deployable shields are one way
About that Forza/Halo colab, I actually got to play that. It was a good bit before this video, but I dont think there were any banshees attacking as you drove, and I drove on a beach instead of a ring. I think it was a time trial race, so that could be why
Chief is a cyborg though. Cybernetically-enhanced Organism. Cyb + Org. It doesn't matter in the end, but in-canon, most humans are cyborgs by this definition.
@@Verbally.autistic Depends. In the games you don't really get much of Chief's internal thoughts, but if you read the EU you realise a lot of his objective is driven, not simply by the mission, but by the desire to save lives. Lives are highly sacred to him; he understands the difference between "wasting lives" and "spending lives", but he still hates it. Halo 4 deals a lot with Chief's more robotic elements, and in Halo 5 it's quite clear that emotional leaning has completely driven him to become AWL from the UNSC. Sure, he believes he has a responsibility to try and get to her to convince her before anyone else, but that's driven by his desire to save Cortana, rather then see the UNSC clinically dispose of her in the most efficient way possible. He's emotionally compromised, he's just smart enough to see it, and he knows Blue Team will snap him out of it if it ever becomes too severe. For the moment, they'll indulge him as long as he's in control. So I wouldn't say he's more machine then man. You don't get a touching scene like in Halo 3 with Cortana's reunion if he's mostly machine.
@@Pompadour_Pug you said it very elegantly I was focused on how he seemed to be pushing his mental psyche to the point of being a machine. Like a robot built for a single purpose.
I'm acquainted with Levi, through HBO and some LAN parties. They actually did work with him to print Fist Full of Arrows, but it was as a charity auction piece. They made one to sell and one for him to keep.
45:35 Yeah, I also get that feeling when it comes to exploring empty Source maps. It’s the thought that you’re the only one there on maps that are more commonly populated. So to be there along makes you feel… on edge.
The sandworm is a reference to the Sandworm, a sandworm from dune. Both the sandworm and the sandworm are similar because the sandworm eats a mining rig because sandwormsandwormsandwormsandworm
It's so satisfying to hear about the Vidmaster achievements. I still remember the night me and the boys finished them. The firefight one was the hardest.
The ghosts are actually a real thing as it's happened to me and my little brother when we were playing on Sandtrap in Halo 3 completely offline, we didn't have Xbox Live nor system link, we definitely weren't connected to the internet and there wasn't a third player. I don't remember the colour of it but it was definitely a spartan sliding around the map and shooting whenever we got close to it before it just blipped out of the game entirely, it only lasted a bit less than a minute. My theory for the ghosts is they're a bi-product of multiplayer bots made for Halo 2 that were eventually scrapped and left unfinished - albeit their code has remained buried in the engine all the way up to Reach. Thus under some very specific circumstances, the player can accidentally trick the game via arbitrary code execution to enable these unfinished bots to spawn and thus the ghosts appear. If only people knew how to consistently trigger them or if the source code was ever released for these games, then we'll know the answer for sure.
Wasnt Recon given to everyone at one point. Cause i remember vividly having it in Halo 3 but i never did any Vidmaster challenges. Also there is atleast Flash cloning in Halo
Idk if this is in the iceberg or not but. I just watched a 14 year old Developer commentary on H2 last night with Joseph Staton, Marty O Donnell and Jason Jones, and apparently throughout the Bungie trilogy they sneak Marty’s Dad in for a voice actor cameo . A hint to get you started hes a prophet in H2 ;)
Here is the hour long doc it’s pretty damn funny and entertaining it’s just guys talking about the project they love and making fun of its minor imperfections: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sBi_xx26ClM.html
You actually CAN see that friendly game of soccer between Locke and Buck. You have to actually move the ball yourself, and there's an Easter egg for getting it into a goal. And the decoy ability teabags the corpse to make it look more realistic. The developers actually went out of their way to make the decoy act as convincing as possible so that it would actually work. But not 100% convincingly, because that way, the player could act like a decoy as a feint. Walking at a wall or zig zagging in weird ways could be used to trick other players if you did it right.
Love the video! Gotta say I was skeptical of Spark being alive too, but the books with him post halo 3 are actually amazing. I was pleasantly surprised at how much heart Kelly Gay gave that narrative.
Hey I've been watching this and loving it, but I thought I'd let you know some stuff I noticed. 11:33 - Cortana on Halo 3 was the missing mission after floodgate. If you look up at the beginning, you can even see the hole on the top is the exact same as the one from floodgate. The original plan was to have Cortana drive a scarab to kill gravemind and you fight through the Mausoleum of the Arbiter, but had to cut it due to time constraints. They even kept it visible in the skybox by the crashed pelican on Cortana as an homage to what was lost, and the voice lines from the cut levels are still in the files. There's a playlist on youtube with a ton of cut voice lines found that you can listen to. Some are even from that lost city fight we only saw at PAX 2010 46:51 - you can do this on any difficulty. What matters is the order you do it in. As long as Kat calls you to ONI tower, you can do it 1:44:36 - I think they actually deciphered that this year. It was just symbols for the engineers to help guide themselves and the prophet to the superintendent I feel like the ending bit was a tad weird, but that's more a nitpick than a critique. Great video my guy! Keep it up
I remember hearing that rejected shotgun got in contact with some devs that knew about the halo 3 level 090. All he said was that this level would have been like nothing ever seen in halo before. Another thought is that it was a the cut forerunner city on the ark, and the level was said to be so large it could have been it's own game. You can see pictures of it on halopedia and it was also featured in halo legends orgin episode. Many of the structures would be later used on the ark and the covenant missions.
Wow! this is a really cool video. Thank you so much for sharing this! When I was younger, I was a big fan of Halo. Even though I mostly played multiplayer, I've always found Halo very interesting. I really enjoy watching Halo videos, and it's really cool learning about facts i've never known before. Keep up the great videos!
I’m surprised I didn’t see the whale’s eye Easter Egg from Longshore in this Ice Berg. That one seemed so subtle in appearance and unsettlingly mysterious
24:49 ATV offroad fury was the shit. Holy fuck I never expected to hear someone reference that game. I only played the first one and a tiny bit of the 2nd one but that's a nostalgia trip I didn't expect to receive from this video. Thanks :)
at 33:30 or so you mention that the public believes Chief is missing or dead, but that they should know he's alive at this point. If im not mistaken, this is playing on the lore reason of "Spartans never die, they're just MIA" so as to show how immovable spartans are. the public is meant to believe that spartans are unkillable, thus, if they die in action, the public is told they are instead, Missing In Action.
If you think about it, Halo 2 actually doesnt exist. What we ultimately got is not what Bungie originally intended to make. They wanted Halo 2 and 3 to be the same game as far as the story goes, but due to both a troubled development and strict deadlines, they had to make a lot of compromises with the campaign and rush through what time they had left during development. Its why the campaign is an unbalanced mess at higher difficulties, and its why there's a fair amount of cut content like a missing Warthog Run segment. I still love Halo 2 for what it is, but my god its really depressing sometimes how much untapped potential this game has. What i'd love to see at some point is some fan reimagining of Halo 2 that fits the initial concept of the game. Bonus points if it can run on the original Xbox hardware.
@@Pigpen_YT ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fnZ6t_ZhuxI.html&t= entire video is "we should be upset because we only got 4 minutes of content" the day before the 10 minute multiplayer overview was posted
So .... As far as I understand- Master Chief being MIA/KIA at the end of Halo 3 is what Bungie wanted to close his story. It's 343 who brought Chief back because otherwise they couldn't sell any Halo games they made
One thing worth adding was a website that existed around the time of halo reach It had match summaries from every single match played, including killfeeds, and even a map where you could see who killed who from where And if I remember correctly you could see other's theatre mode creations uploading on there too, however viewing them required silverlight
22:59 This would have been such a cool opportunity to give us a good picture of what space combat in the Halo Universe looks like, it's a shame they canceled it.
57:25 There's more to this entry than you explained in the video. Back in the 360 days of Halo 4 a modder did actually managed to get Theater mode to work in the campaign. As a result the modder was actually banned from multiplayer.
I've never once heard or seen anyone refer to Master Chief or Spartans in general as cyborgs... I love the little "loading screen" segments you add :) very clever transitions
I love that this iceberg introduces anyone new but interested into active aspects of the halo community with the halo youtubers. All good picks too, though I’m saddened that I don’t see Wernissage mentioned. He’s quickly becoming a creative pillar of the modern halo community and his content is actually amazing. Every time he upload it’s a treat If anyone is reading this looking for other youtubers some notable ones that I can understand why they haven’t been mentioned because they either don’t only focus on halo, play a fairly minor role in the community, or are now pretty inactive are: The Act Man, Jerasunder, Hew Moran, Gamecheat13, EckhartsLadder, Rejected Shotgun, Arrash tv, and Noodle If you want to watch someone else new to the series play the games then I recommend Dee Bee Geek or MrRoflWaffle who is still doing streams with JCBackfire going through all the games as of the writing of this comment. There are PLENTY more great halo RU-vid channels but these are what I personally feel would be best for newer people to get into and get used to as an addition to the ones mentioned in the video before branching out further.
25:30 ... actually, the earliest "forge" or map editor on Halo is Halo Custom Edition which you can download if you have a copy of Halo Combat Evolved, which is similar to Halo 2 Vista's map editor (essentially the same), but a bit more restricted since it uses Halo CE's engine lol, I used to make maps there for years so I know it
