"In recent years, several bodies had been dumped at this secluded spot." Well, I think it's high time they install some CCTV cameras around there then so they could get a good gander at who is dumping the bodies and/or some license plates numbers!
Imagine finding out your wife and the mother of your children was brutally murdered and you wake up to have random people taking pictures of your family because it’s their “job”. You already know what they look like. Leave the family alone
It's infuriating that the cops arrested a 13yr old boy, handcuffed him & dragged him to the police station. They should be sued for this. The media blaming the victim for her own death is disgusting. People turn into saints when judging others. No one deserves to die such a violent death. RIP Orsolya!
@@hideousruinthis is RU-vid, not an English lesson, so perhaps you should get down from that high horse of yours? Actually, since you've brought it up, the articulation of the sentence was perfectly fine and completely inoffensive, whereas your judgements are not.
I don't have any respect for law enforcement anymore. I'm happy they remove murderers,rapists,and pedos from the streets. But mostly, they flash and flaunt their badges. And most sign up just to use their weapons.I heard that from an ex police officer. 🖕
What the cops did to the boy of 13 is despicable. Deserves litigation. Excellent respectful work here. Thanks for bringing the story to light. Appreciate
Cops do no wrong, in eyes of a bootlicker! Cops have rules, procedures and protocol (Well, the "good" ones anyway!) Kids' rights were trampled by thugs.
@Zen I disagree Karen. I think they show a great deal of respect when detailing the victims. If you're so worried about them making money, stop watching.
I doubt the HIV claim was true. It has never been reported. But that poor husband! She’s cheating with 3 men, and she gets killed? If she’s got 3 men now, how many did she have throughout the marriage?
I still have a hard time believe she would get with that dude...ew they don't come from any part of the "same cloth" in any walk or part of life. But such is life sometimes if I'm wrong.
Hope Nancy Grace apologized to her husband and kids. Poor dude finds out his wife is murdered, gets blamed for it, then find out she was cheating with multiple dudes. That's brutal af.
Dragging a 13yr old boy out of his house without shoes, interrogate him without an adult, hearing his mom was found dead during the interrogation and all this just while he woke up that morning. Well this boy is traumatized for a long time. I hope his dad sue this presinct. Just a sorry doesnt cut it 4 me☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼
@Chris Shaffer Yes I do. I think dragging a half sleeping kid out of bed with no shoes and accusing him of killing his Mother with little too no proof it was him, and in doing this breaking the news to him that his Mother was murdered...yes, yes I definitely think this added to the trauma.
to know that if his wife wasn't being a cheater she'd still be alive! Tragic. Poor husband and poor children. Shame on her for inviting such evil into their lives.
To the narrator of this video, who described this woman so beautifully, well done. To the police, Nancy Grace and everyone else to handled this case, absolutely disgusting. So poorly handled and that 13 year old boy will forever be traumatized. Those were the moments he should have been comforted the most, and instead he was illegally questioned and man handled. So tragic. I pray this family is able to heal and find some peace after this unimaginable event.
How did they think this child put a grown adult in a duffle bag and dragged her all the way to a highway? Disgusting, adding more trauma to this poor boys life. I hope they get sued for gross misconduct.
@Augusto Pinochet that's not the end all, be all. There are limitations which is why people commonly win lawsuits against cops/departments or receive settlements thru the possibility of wrongdoing being found if the suit continued .
i agree, but tbf in the photo where they are near the car, the 13 yo kid is quite tall for his age. he is as tall as the police officer who is standing beside him.
I don't see any issue with the idea of a 13 year old boy being able to drag approximately 100-120 lbs a few blocks. The police also didn't have the video yet. What they did have was a bloody crime scene downstairs, a trail of blood from the body to that scene and the son being the only person in the house. Kids that age and younger have done as bad. What if he had killed his mom and they ignored him. The police would justifiably be called idiots who should be fired for ignoring evidence and a likely suspect
Or my favorite, "they were full of life" or "loved life" lol. Like oh too bad they killed this wonderful person instead of some loser who didn't love life. But then yeah you find out they're deeply flawed and were f'ing around before they found out.
I thought it was interesting how the only real mention of the husband was while they were trying to tie him to the murder despite his seemingly airtight alibi. They never clear him or speak of his emotional roller coaster.
Accusing the kid = He was the only one at the end/beginning of the blood trail. Treating brutishly= That is one person's subjective opinion. You nor I was there. Naming the husband and the other kid as persons of intrest w/o evidence = The tweets were suspect and the husband is ALWAYS the 1st suspect. Futhermore the chick was kinda of a slut. Piss off any dude. Cops as thugs?? Naah just doing their job. Did pretty well really...got the right guy. 🤷♂️
I can’t believe the teen was in the police station without an adult . If that had happened to my child I’d be suing. He was accused of her murder, that’s how he found out she was dead? Oh my gosh 😢😢😢😢😢😢 The police owe that child an apology!!!! They had him with no shoes ??? I’m sorry but I lose respect for cops daily hearing these horrible things.
[possibly the worst way ever...traumatizing. an apology is the least they owe him-idk what could make that right. Their mother raised 2 wonderful young men]
@@ginaharden2111 It’s so tragic that he had to find out his life was changed now and his dear mum was m…der! Trauma he will be burdened with always. No adult present, no shoes on and handcuffed. I hope the Department compensates this lost young man and an HUGE APOLOGY …. PUBLICLY ! I mean… ‘GARGANTUAN’, I love 💕 that word! I pray 🙏 for your boys to make it count how well you did raise them… 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Funny how they all came for the husband only to be disappointed that it wasn't him. They didn't even apologize! Imagine everybody in town dating your wife and then being accused of her death done by one of her lovers, then finding out she had HIV, and now you have to go test yourself and your kids because their mom might have infected everybody.
Damn, the husband has to deal with all of this BS and he was just doing the best for his family. Can see why he was pissed at the camera man. Wife was murdered by a dude she was cheating with...while he was out their just being a husband supporting the family. Sons have to deal with loss of mom and her cheating on their dad with multiple guys.
I know, right. Cheating not only destroys a marriage, it literally ruins people. Like, if you want attention and/or need to sleep around that bad at 50 yrs old, then just get a divorce for Christ's sake - and get it BEFORE you start ho'ing around - as to save your spouse & kids embarrassment & even more trauma. Kids don't deserve that sh!t. The WORST is when people are ho'ing around and say they're staying married "for the kids". 😅
@@1w598 Why do you assume she was "cheating" you have no idea what her marriage was like. There is such a thing as an open marriage and he could have had girlfriends as well. Who is the ho in that situation? People are so shitty when it comes to women but completely unsurprised when a man is caught outside the marriage bed.
Besides the children, I feel bad for the husband too. Of course in this type of cases a husband will be the first person of interest, but that reporter guy taking pictures of him while treathening to call the police is really irritating, also that old bat Nancy who always acusses the wrong person... Plus she cheated him with that ugly creepy looking stalker, that probably hurts him the most.
@@policestate4879 dude/dudette WHY THE HATE? WHY? Does it give you PERVERTED relief? Does your comment give you some other kind of relief like “ mommy” issues? Or, daddy issues? ….. chill ffs
I feel so so sad for what her family has been through and is going through for sooo many reasons. It's not enough that your mom and your wife are brutally murdered...you also have to find out that she isn't who you thought she was. My heart breaks for them. God be with this family...
ASMIRA : So much agree. She lived a double life. It all will come out sooner or later, and never underestimate the actions of other that you fooled around with.
Agree! The family she LEFT behind suffers the collateral damage. Selfish nasty piece of work. She should still be alive had she NOT lived in promiscuity.
I think it's kind of inevitable when you have married a barbie..... she is going to find crazies who will do ANYTHING for her I mean appreciate her beauty despite being a married woman I dated a really hot chick a few years back I couldn't believe how much her ex boyfriends were still trying to get in touch with her or still in love with her lol life is nt as easy as it seems for hot people
Nancy Grace has exhausted her 15 minutes of fame…a thousand times over. I can’t believe she’s legally allowed to be on tv still, the way she throws accusations around like some gossiping ninny.
Most gagged on her when she was pregnant with the twins. Everyone was if I here her mouth one more time. I never mention her name, she a ton of people sick of her, yes she is super rude and a finger pointer. I'm sure she has always been critical of everyone. Imagine living with her 🤯
When she had her show on regular TV years ago... I used to joke that she was keeping all the missing people she would report on tied up in her basement to keep her show filled with victims. The number of times she has been wrong about cases like this one... or pounded others to suicide or madness is obscene. She needs to put a cork in that pie hole. Early on she was a guilty pleasure now she is just a harpy and a bore!
I cannot imagine the trauma Leo suffered that day. Imagine waking up and suddenly you’re arrested under suspicion of murdering your mom, and then you’re trying to even grapple what’s going on and that your mom died, and you’re being interrogated alone…. I literally cannot imagine what that was like for him. I understand they would of course need to question him and that he may have been a suspect immediately, but it was handled SO wrong
To summarize Woman cheated on her family with multiple men gets killed by one of them while her husband and children is scarred and traumatized for life.
The person I think needs to have charges brought against is the misdirected, big mouthed, egotistical television announcer who acted as though she was a real detective and falsely accused this poor husband who had already suffered heart break from his unfaithful wife only to be slandered by the uncaring, front page grabbing television announcer. SHAME ON YOU!
This is a sad situation no matter how you slice and dice it. Mother loses her life, kids loses their mother, husband loses his ‘unfaithful’ wife and has to live with the humiliation of it all. 🤦🏽♀️
So very true. As a married person you not only betray your partner, but the kids as well. This murder would have never happened without her being unfaithful.
@@LiquidShivaz and also the strumpet to immediately attack anyone mentioning anything about her cheating. No one is saying she deserved what she got, these are very much facts of the case. That's why it was mentioned in the video.
@@fredajordan5704 Don't be ridiculous! She was unfaithful, not a first not last either and it's not a crime. She shouldn't have been murdered for it!! Are you serious? We don't know anything about these people's married life. He could've been unfaithful too, we don't know anything. Stop with a victim blaming!
Are you victim blaming? She can't tell her side of the situation. She was brutally murdered; she was taken away from her children. He is 100% responsible for his actions; someone ending a relationship is not a reason to kill them ever.
The children 😞 as a mother I wish I could hug them , just so sad , the courage of the son at the end paying tribute to his mother’s memory ♥️ , heart breaking !! I wish the sons and father a happy life and a beautiful future a head ♥️✨✨✨✨✨
Firstly-Nancy Grace, uggggh! OK got that out of my system. Though I understand the police tend to take an interest in spouses as a suspect in murder cases, but to drag a 13 year old out like some seasoned felon and treat him so shockingly is completely inexcusable. Though it’s a terrible thing, Orsolya’s murder, to not only to be treated as the murderer of your wife who you then discover was being unfaithful for so many years must have sent him into an emotional spin and a half. So his wife dies, and she is not who he believed her to be. His son is manhandled and intimidated. He’s being held responsible. I wish him and his son the best, hopefully somehow they can keep some type of sanity to get through life.
That poor kid. I really feel for him. And what he went through. I cant imagine losing my Mother. And I’m a grown adult. But to murder? I cant begin to imagine that pain. On top of that, to be accused of her murder? That’s pain no one should feel.
I can’t wait for this one I have been following this case and it’s really horrific how people are pointing fingers to the husband of the victim but later turned something else
Sunday dumaka- people are always, quick to judge, you see. Such a’ tragedy!!! Can, I say, beautiful 😻 little girl u have, on the photo,,, sweetie. Stay safe guys.
It is absolutely terrifying and traumatic that that poor boy had to learn about the horrible way his mom passed away in the way that he did. I lost my dad as a 9 year old and that was horrible enough to be told about it from my own mom. I cannot imagine how much pain he, his dad, brother and the rest of their family is going through. Also, it's one thing to have an affair, but it's another thing to be murdered. She WAS wrong to be cheating on her husband - but so many people sadly do it every day, for years. I don't have much empathy for people who choose to have affairs, but I do have empathy for her and her family because she did NOT deserve to be murdered so ruthlessly and left there with no care. Those boys didn't have a chance to say goodbye to their mom, and the choice they would've had to forgive her for her wrongdoings was taken away from them and put on public display for everyone to make assumptions about her. That's got to be difficult. I completely agree that it is an instance of genuine victim shaming.
And ppl ignore the fact that all the killer did was study how to emotionally manipulate women and that she actually ended the relationship. He was so persistent, it’s nonsense to blame her like that
Seriously disturbing to see people use her affair to justify her murder... If you cheat on your partner, you deserve being dumped/broken up with/ divorced etc. You do not deserve to be fucking savagely murdered and stuffed into a goddamn duffel bag and thrown into the street like garbage. wtf is wrong with people
@@ScratchthechalkBoard True. However, he was only one of many affairs which was a motive for his murdering her. Sorry, but her actions not only caused her death, it's sentenced her children to a lifetime of indescribable pain, anguish and heartache as well. She did NOT deserve to be murdered, period.
@@Nostalgic_1 he claimed she was seeing another man. HE claimed she was seeing another man. He also considered her to be cheating when she was married which is a peek into his perception of things..
So if you walk up to someone who is stabbing another person to death in an alley, and try to stop them, then they turn around and stab you to death... does that make you a victim? Sure. Does that make you partially responsible for your own demise? Absolutely. How about this one.. If you murder someone and the state decides to give you the death penalty, does that make you a victim? Yes, you're a victim of the state. Does that make you accountable for your own death? ABSOLUTELY. Point is, people can be victims, and accountable for their own death at the same time. This woman spent all this time cheating on her husband with MULTIPLE men over several years, and took way too many risks. Did she deserve death? No way. Did she contribute to her own death? Definitely!
Imagine being handcuffed at age 13 not knowing what's going on and then finding out that your mom is murdered because they're accusing you of doing it. I would be devastated. This poor boy do they really think that this 13 year old stuffed his dead weight mother into a double bag and dragged her across town? These officers should be ashamed
Orsolya is pronounced "Orshoya" and it is the formal version of the name. The informal version is Orsi (Orshee). May she rest in peace... Nice documentary, keep up the good work!
Wow! Thank you for filling us in! There’s a big difference between the spelling and the target words! How is it that the “l” is not pronounced? I haven’t watched the whole documentary still, but would you mind telling me where is she from, so I can check the pronunciation system of their language! Thanks again! 💗
@@issafula So in hungarian language we have more letters in the alphabet than in english. We have two "y", one is "j" and the other one is "ly". Both are pronounced as y. Don't ask me what the point is though... We just have to learn as kids which word has got j in it like "papagáj" (parrot) and which has ly in it like "folyó" (river). Also the english "s" is "sz" in hungarian. We also have "zs" which is a softer version of the sound "sh". Please don't get me started on "ty", "gy" 'cause we have those too.😂 Apparently hungarian is one of the hardest languages to learn for an english speaker. Grammar is totally different too. Beautiful language though!
@@Essie-Cakes She said “don’t get me started with…” 🤣🤣🤣. It’s beautiful though and very much interesting. I studied Estonian for my thesis and I love every bit of it. It was interesting and different. Estonian was not as difficult though. I’d like to know how it work with Hungarian. I saw their spelling and omg haha it definitely looks difficult. However, if I ever had the chance to study Hungarian I would have too. I actually went there in 2016. Very beautiful country 💗. Thank you, Ester 🤍 (I am Spanish btw)
@@issafula Spanish?? My most favourite people! I had the luck to work with spanish nationals and they all were like a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day. Always happy and cheerful and kind. ♥️
Adultery is not grounds for murder! She didn't bring this on herself. She was a bad wife, but she didn't need to be killed. Just divorced and/or broken up with.
I agree, it’s not grounds for murder. However her husband wasn’t the one one who killed get, and adultery was obviously not the reason she was killed because she was killed by the guy she was having an affair with. So she wasn’t killed because she was unfaithful, she was killed because she surrounded herself with sketchy people and one of them killed her. It’s more of a “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” type thing than it was about the cheating.
That’s one costly affair ? She surely did not deserve to be murdered over the indiscretion. I feel very badly for her husband and children especially the 13 year old boy who was interrogated by incompetent police. What a horrific tragedy all the way around.
And no she didn't deserve to die over something that was between her and her husband.. People suck ass, that's why I prefer the company of pets. For all anyone really knows at this point, he just followed and murdered her. We've seen zero proof of any affairs, that are none of our business anyway. Yet people are already poking her corpse with a stick. And I bet that husband never gets any apologies either.
I remember when this came out. Everyone on FB blamed the husband and swore it was him and how he was probably cheating and he was a pod. And then when they figured out it was instead the wife, they said oh we shouldn’t judge. Man dragged through the mud and the woman gets a pass every time.
I feel for the kids and husband. Nothing rips your heart out like a cheating partner and then this on top of it... Not sure how those 3 males will ever find any sort of normality ...
I live only 20 minutes away from forest hills. I remember when this story came out. Usually very quiet and family environment ...very shocking and chilling crime. R.i.p
So glad to discover that this narrator is a real person. Love your voice Jason Forbis. You're the reason I subscribe to this channel rather than the myriad others.
Thank you so much for the detailed coverage and respect you show to the victims and their families. Can you please cover the case of Jawaher Heji. Not a lot of people are talking about it and something seems fishy and unfair about the whole case, and her mom is seriously heartbroken since she's trying to get the authorities to take her case seriously but keeps getting ignored or treated badly for an unknown reason. Thank you for all that you do.
Uh, well, the adult in his life was dead and the other adult was out of state. He’s on the site with a bloody body . That’s how you interrogate a minor. Statistics show that murdered people are related to the murderer. Any other questions, Nancy Drew?
The name of the theme song is “Credulous Gal” by Anzem. I know I was searching for it for a long time and finally had to email Fear Files to get the title/artist name. I told them I’d pass on the information for them, one more thing that they don’t really have time to do. It’s a royalty free song, so anyone can use it, so long as they credit the artist. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ojAx7kMJ1TE.html
I think you did a good job addressing the role her infidelity played. Her murder is not her fault, but she did expose herself and her family to risk. Sex and love are messy.
Right. Infidelity is absolutely harmful, and will break the hearts of their family, but it DOES NOT deserve to be murdered, and their family doesn’t deserve to be persecuted. They’re already a victim.
Anyone know if Nancy Grace recanted her "social commentary" against the husband? I feel for the guy who would have been hounded in spite of his innocence. Several thousand kms in distance is a little hard to argue for him being a culprit...
*_I cannot stand Nancy Grace!_** She speculates and makes unfounded claims, and just rolls right along without ever saying she might be wrong, or apologizing when her statements prove erroneous! That's the one thing I wanted to comment on and I'm glad someone else noticed it too. She's a menace and needs to be stopped!*
@Eternally Profound UHH NO !!!! Were you present when said “ affair” occurred? And who the f***k cares if she did or did not ? What’s hidden in your freaking closet ? BOOM !!!!
@@robbiddlecombe8392 UHH NO U DIDN’t say she deserved to die ROB - u said “ partially it’s her FAULT !!!! Troll - ur fing bridge is calling - they want you home right the fuck NOW!!!! Learn to READ !!! I stated loud and clear what you wrote dude!!!!!
Orsoyla most certainly didn't deserve to die, but I think a lot of the critical talk surrounding her is moreso a reminder for each and every person to be cautious and aware of the people you surround yourself with. That being said, even if Orsolya had been divorced and just dating these men, considering the dark and twisted nature of her killer, he probably would have killed her or someone else at some point anyway.
Amazing job with covering this case! All of your content is great. And the time put into research, and getting the details, really shine in this one. It is very sad, and such a tragedy. My heart breaks for her sons, husband, and family.
Imagine being a child drug out of your house by police half asleep and cuffed being accused of murdering your own mother. That poor family R.I.P Orsolya
Forest Hills is a beautiful neighborhood. In fact it’s much more interesting than the stock footage used at the beginning of the video. Sad story, condolences to the family.
Are we really sure they were actually having an affair or did he sort of fantasize he and her were having the affair? Maybe she was just trying to be nice, but finally she told him to leave her alone. That's what he was doing at the Starbucks with the barristas, fantasizing that they were attracted to him.
I absolutely agree! I don't believe she had an affair with him. That man was delusional about her being nice to him as her handy man and because of that, he felt like she wanted him, plain and simple!
lol delusional mfs. she was cheating when she was having conversations with men her husband didn't know about. she was cheating when she was lying and going on dates, but somehow you believe she wasn't having sex with other men
@@vickijones5301 they did forensics on the phone….they didn’t just take the guys word for it….I’m assuming they found dirty texts and pictures/talking about the affair to confirm the story. “She found happiness in our happiness” nah little man, she found happiness in the arms of several men that weren’t your dad….
I love your channel. You always have obscure stories unlike my former favorite channels that seem to tell overly reported stories, with very predictable endings. Thanks for digging deep for your channel
The child didn't know where his mother was... She was out late drinking leaving her child unsupervised. Upon returning home she, and her lover, or former lover had an argument and she was murdered.
The saddest part of them victim blaming the mom is that they only have his word that there was an affair. The guy is reported as a stalker by so many. And Nancy Grace strikes again with her slander and false accusations, how does she still have a job? This poor family. I'd be wanting the credentials of anyone approaching my family after getting that message, my spouse being murdered in my home, and the killer still at large too. I can't say it enough, this poor family.
This family seemed like the American dream. I don’t think she was unfaithful, but many men think they have something going with a beautiful woman, the moment she’s just nice to them.
This is truly horrible, shocking and traumatic for her sons and husband, I really feel for them. Even though Orsolya had extra-marital affairs she did not deserve to be killed. What she saw in that ugly lowlife beats me. She seemed to have it all; handsome husband, lovely boys, nice home and all thrown away for a worthless fling /affair which sadly resulted in her own horrific death and the lifelong trauma of her immediate family.
@ *DRTBKE* I completely agree, Nick Crowley really touches on some dark stuff too, especially 'RU-vids Most Disturbing Channels' series. Especially the episode about that convicted Ped who was making terrifying uploads (sorry I'm writing this here but I couldn't respond on the Live Chat mmy friend lol). Was gonna subscribe to your channel but couldn't find it! It's a real pleasure! Love the Fear Files family! You're all *AWESOME* and of course, THANK YOU for another fantastic upload as always!!!!! Beautiful watching quality rise to the top!!! Stay safe family and blessed be
15:45 Her Greatest joy came from D you mean. She was out that whole day in city then at local bar waiting for someone till past midnight then walked home alone. Handyman was last minute call over came within 15mins of her getting home. The 13yr was alone all day. That is a minor
Her being murdered is not her fault at all she's the victim what ever she did in her private life dose not give the right to anyone to murder someone.😢💜
The way the police treated those children was shameful. The victim shaming was contemptible. And finally, I hope Nancy Grace apologised to the husband for her accusations against him.
She looks so sweet and innocent, too, with those big eyes and full cheeks. I was shocked! I would never have guessed that looking at her. Women, playing around like that with men is playing with fire. Don’t do it!
