The Harsh Truth About Self-Discipline (ft. Rich Roll)

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I’ve often wondered if self-discipline is just a way of turning bad addictions into healthy ones. After all, addictions of all kinds are really just an attempt to numb and distract ourselves from facing uncomfortable feelings. Can’t the same be said for healthy behaviors once they reach a level of compulsion?
I brought ‪@richroll‬ on the pod to discuss this idea because, well, he’s a recovered alcoholic who turned into an ultra-endurance athlete in his 40s. Rich is no stranger to reinventing himself, repeatedly leveraging his flaws into virtues.
We talk about the value of pain as a catalyst for change, the idea that addiction is a spectrum that doesn’t just involve substances, terrible breakups, finding a deeper spirituality, lessons from Rich’s financial struggles, his career running a top podcast, and much, much more.
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00:00:00 Is self-discipline just healthy addiction?
00:04:50 Addicts make good ultra-endurance athletes?
00:10:33 The real value of pain
00:19:16 Addiction is a spectrum
00:30:27 Is 12-step the best cure?
00:38:41 Making amends
00:40:52 The worst breakup of Rich's life
00:47:40 Spirituality
00:53:32 The physical-spiritual connection
01:04:07 Creative output
01:07:46 When Rich couldn't pay the trash man
01:18:24 Rich on podcasting
01:23:45 The power of vulnerability
01:29:06 What does Rich give a f*ck about?
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@IAmMarkManson 20 дней назад

Hey everyone, beginning in July, all new podcast episodes will be posted on the podcast's RU-vid channel. Be sure to head over there and subscribe so you don't miss out! In the meantime, we'll be posting clips and shorts from current episodes there. Go to: www.youtube.com/@TheSubtleArtofNotGivingaFck

@EBURNIEinspiration 20 дней назад

Fantastic! 💚 ✅

@AnuAnu-nf1kt 19 дней назад

BH😮

@charlesmuller120 20 дней назад

Rich hits the nail on the head when he talks about how is life is so much better when he is selflessly helping others instead of soothing his ego. Spot on for all of us!

@brianmeen2158 20 дней назад

Definitely! Happiness is not about stacking money or sleeping with as many women as you can - it’s about helping others. I say this as someone that is quite terrible in this area. I think most people are

@chewbrocka6833 19 дней назад

They say connections is what makes a person happiest. I think it leads to a good tradeoff, someone helps and then they have a greater chance of connecting with someone who wants to show gratitude/empathy. Deeper connections with empathy.

@rainbowgirljules 19 дней назад

@@brianmeen2158 As the saying goes, "You can't give from an empty cup". It all depends on the context of what you're going through at any particular time. For example, if you're grieving over a close family member's recent death it's impossible to give to other people at that time. We can only authentically give to others if we have enough emotional bandwidth to begin with.

@carltonpenaloza1395 19 дней назад

You have to strike a balance for yourself and others. He’s also helping himself a ton. And when you help others you are appreciated and loved by many which is a feedback loop of awesomeness of everyone winning. Helping others is the primary currency at Burning Man and the best status you can achieve

@charlesmuller120 19 дней назад

@@rainbowgirljules Great point and SO TRUE!

@iamalphalim 20 дней назад

1:33:05 To have grown up kids who still like to come home and hang out with you, that’s success ❤🎉

@Samuel_Darkwah 20 дней назад

I’ve learnt the hard way that my addiction is a battle of the mind and the only way to beat it is to be conscious and constantly remind myself that I don’t have to be that person. I dont have to engage. The honest truth is that you will be tempted to relapse and you may. Addiction is easier to beat when you become conscious about your behavior. This is what I’m trying to get good at.

@brianmeen2158 20 дней назад

I’m with Manson 100% when it comes to just shifting one’s addiction or obsession. I’ve done that with exercise and it works pretty well I don’t think one ever truly beats addiction though

@fromnewusa 20 дней назад

So much about life is just fully being aware right at the moment.

@elijahaa 19 дней назад

Community is also very important

@Samuel_Darkwah 19 дней назад

I don’t think you ever truly beat addiction as well. The goal is to keep trying to overcome the old destructive habit with a new productive one, until the new habit becomes second nature. I’ve been exercising as well. It’s hard but when I’m done, I feel so much better.

@Samuel_Darkwah 19 дней назад

@@elijahaa You are right. The challenge is more difficult when you are alone. Wanna join mine? lol

@CK2008able 19 дней назад

As a guy in my early 30s close to quitting on my dream, Rich's story is so, so inspiring. One of the best podcast interviews I've ever listened to

@sashacooper9764 18 дней назад

Don't quit the dream. Keep on keeping on

@lyndseyanselmi-un3ql 9 дней назад

Keep on going. If you give up now you'll only have to start again. Life is short so make it the best ride of your life

@greenpoprocket7965 20 дней назад

My late 30s were pretty rough on all fronts. As I turn 40, Rich Roll's been a big source of inspiration for me. He's someone who didn't resign to a life of quiet desperation (from what I can tell anyway) as he entered middle age, and that's an example I need in my life right now. Mark's ok too.

@PS-qn4oz 20 дней назад

LOL

@carltonpenaloza1395 20 дней назад

My 20’s and 30’s were turbulent! I’m 43 now and still have the energy of a late 20’s, stopped drinking alcohol 6 months ago, no one can believe my age. I still listen to Rocky and dream big and have so many amazing things going on now and in the near future. 40’s are the best years of our lives!!!!! If you live healthy

@michaelt6792 20 дней назад

Sounds like we’ve had very similar trajectories lol

@whyisntitpossible404 20 дней назад

Is this the guy who said he was never going to give me up, never going to let me down, never going to run around and desert me?

@rojiiiiiii 20 дней назад

Did you just rick rolled us?! 🤪

@laurameloy275 15 дней назад

@@rojiiiiiiiha!

@sheridixon190 11 дней назад

lol. No!!!

@resingussianface2555 10 дней назад

THANK YOU

@kieranstyx3633 20 дней назад

One of the best conversations I've heard in a long time. Genuinely illuminating on so many levels at this point in my life. Thank you to everyone involved.

@looptimelapse 20 дней назад

heard somewhere: it's not about what you want, it's about what you want to want

@SophiaAphrodite 19 дней назад

Since this sounds like meaningless word salad. Please elaborate what that actually means.

@looptimelapse 19 дней назад

@@SophiaAphrodite ask the so far 18 people who have liked it, kiddo

@advicepirate8673 19 дней назад

@@SophiaAphrodite Here's how I interpreted it. We all want a better life, we can keep up our destructive behaviors indefinitely all while wanting a better life. Getting to a place of wanting to want a better life means a couple of important things. It means that we have acknowledged that we are in a state of delusion. It means that we understand that fundamentally something needs to change in order to get to a place where we can even trust ourselves to understand what wanting a better life really means.

@pavelow9876 16 дней назад

@@looptimelapse that was very rude for no reason lol

@OrTB 19 дней назад

Now you have to bring David Goggins

@IFSwithAndrea 13 дней назад

No. Just no.

@normang3668 20 дней назад

I've started to come to this same idea with my own struggles with addictions... My brain seems to be wired for escapism, to occupying myself with anything at all so that I didn't have to look at myself... So I resorted to finding more productive addictions; skills that I could develop that could actually benefit me.

@ricklubbers1526 20 дней назад

Or you could confront that lack of selflove.

@Samuel_Darkwah 19 дней назад

Yeah. I can relate. Do you find it as a challenge to stay consistent?

@themacocko6311 17 дней назад

Doesn't fix the root problem

@ozzye1911 10 дней назад

Life is about getting better, Rich is an example of getting up from your worts to become better and helping others..

@scottev954 20 дней назад

I really appreciate the guest being vulnerable and laying out his life. It's hard to have an addiction, an he makes me want to address it.

@fromnewusa 20 дней назад

I like Mark's podcasts/RU-vids because they are real, intelligent conversations---very much appreciated and needed.

@ToniMonteroroman 19 дней назад

Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.

@HAMZAPINE 19 дней назад

Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!

@fakiriayoub8087 19 дней назад

Yes, dr.porassss. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

@DamsonIdris-rh6sx 19 дней назад

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.

@HAMZAPINE 19 дней назад

Is he on instagram?

@fakiriayoub8087 19 дней назад

Yes he is dr.porassss.

@TheArchitect93 20 дней назад

Yep. Video game addict here. I go through phases where I cannot put the games down and there are months where I just cannot put my mouse and keyboard down. Some new releases like Baldurs Gate 3, Elden Ring, I'd sink easily 20+ hours a week into those games despite managing a full time job and juggling the gym which of course something has to suffer as a result. Video games maybe aren't as noticeably damaging as alcohol or other hard substances but I believe for a lot of people it's really a vice more than anything and a lot of things resonated here. Whether it's video games or naughty online videos it's a coping mechanism to shut off that discomfort wherever it comes from. Luckily I've been gymming hard with BJJ and kick boxing. Playing a lot of guitar and thankfully all these things just feel a lot more meaningful and I largely in part attribute it to microdosing dried fungi. Psychiatric drugs just made me lethargic and possibly worsened the situation. For addicts like myself looking for a slightly more alternative solution that doesn't feel like you have to brute force everything like Mark mentioned try microdosing. Those more disciplined choices now for me seem almost effortless and indeed I feel super guilty if I skip a session at the gym or if I'm not playing guitar. Even boring tasks at work are MUCH easier to do. Try it.

@brianmeen2158 20 дней назад

There are a lot of videogame addicts out there today. I know one that is 38 and plays 5-6 hours every night. That is his life Exercise is or was the key for me too. If more people were to dedicate 45 minutes daily to exercise they’d feel and look so Much better . In terms of psych drugs they are very hit or miss for me too. They seemed to reduce the really dark thoughts but also made me lethargic and killed my sex drive. What freaks me out is how many people that are fine with resorting to taking psych drugs to reduce their depression that have never tried to modify their diet or exercise.

@IAmMarkManson 20 дней назад

Elden Ring basically ruined my life for a month. Terrified to play the DLC. So, I'm there with you.

@TheArchitect93 20 дней назад

@@brianmeen2158 Losing my libido was the final nail in the coffin for me and I went cold turkey after a 2 month period on SSRis. The side effects and the emotional numbness felt worse than my baseline. That was last year now and I can say now I've never felt better. Sometimes I've gotta get that video game binge out of my system and then I go off them for a while. What do you do for exercise?

@TheArchitect93 20 дней назад

@@IAmMarkManson Hope your production schedule doesn't get ruined in June.

@JRoseBooks 20 дней назад

If I may, I highly recommend the HealthyGamerGG channel here. His work is mind blowing. Two of my all time favorites- Mark and Dr. K need a crossover episode!!!!

@robertpearce7795 День назад

1:13:54 - How do you find what you are meant to do in life? - You do whatever your wife says. One of life's golden rules right there.

@original_Gee 19 дней назад

Wow! My two favorite podcasters together. My mantra in life is "Mood Follows Action."

@cgdombrow 15 дней назад

That’s a good one!

@zubayrbhyat8077 19 дней назад

As someone who pursued endurance cycling to deal with big emotional issues I can confirm pain was something that drove me forward. You do become free from that eventually though and you just enjoy the difficulty without the pain.

@Anonymous.User.0419 15 дней назад

Rich is an awesome host and guest. It's great to have him here. I also like how he acknowledges his beautiful and supportive wife at every opportunity.

@dantb9695 20 дней назад

Rich is class, has been my favourite podcaster for many years now, nice to see two of the best parts of the "self-help" world collide

@WooCashM 19 дней назад

We are hard-wired to operate on routines so that we don't have to figure it all out and start from scratch every single morning. Those neuro-chemical paths that the brain follows are a huge time-saver. It all just boils down to whether these paths take us to mentally/spiritually/bodily healthy OR unhealthy outcomes.

@charlesmuller120 19 дней назад

I really like this! So true!

@righteousdivine 14 дней назад

We don't rise to our goals but fall to our systems ❤

@RENEW-FIT 14 дней назад

As painful as all the things i experienced in Alcoholism, it was an easy choice to turn to, it was the Difficult choices in the early days of sobriety that were truly uncomfortable. A little over 3 years of sobriety now. Its still a daily renewing of the mind. The reward i feel for doing whats right even though its Hard is priceless. I also want to share my story with others to give hope and inspiration. Thank you for this.

@michelle_cen 20 дней назад

Did not expect to see Rich Roll on here! What a great crossover 😍

@lexmortis5722 20 дней назад

The uncomfortable truth of pain being like medicine: only the right amount will help you, every other amount will weaken you no matter how much of a "true man" you are, looking at you alcoholics.

@sabrinasmallwood7280 12 дней назад

Rich Roll has been a lighthouse for me and my recovery and moving into endurance running in my 40s. I love what he says 54:24-56:45 and I cannot wait for his next book. The love and reverence he has for his wife Julie is so beautiful! Great interview!

@TheeSeniorJr 17 дней назад

Incredible discussion! I loved when Rich talked about what it was like before he decided to try sobriety: "It was like this portal opened, this is the moment, and I dont know when I'll be revisited with this level of willingness that I'm experiencing now"

@Leiter85 15 дней назад

So glad you’ve done this one. Rich has been a huge inspiration for me. Hearing his story was the spark that got me into running, and I am loving it.

@KOD4K 15 дней назад

This is why research says men who are addicted to porn lack productivity in other aspects of their life. But once porn addicts neglect their porn use and put that energy in productive things then they'll find more happiness and purpose in life.

@superdupersnowflake 19 дней назад

Don’t you guys know everything about human does is to distract ourselves from the knowledge that we will one day die but don’t know what happens after ? There ya go . That’s your issue you’re scared to die . Welcome to the club

@Investing4Everyone 13 дней назад

You truly hear things at the exact right moment. My journey of life is so overwhelmingly similar to the guests with addiction, recovery, business, and endurance training. Truly beautiful podcast!

@maxpalmer9568 2 дня назад

like after 8 seconds "what if self-discipline is simply developing addictions that are good for you?" Had exact question in my head for a while now

@luminyam6145 20 дней назад

That was just great, thank you.

@anthonyfox477 18 дней назад

Rich is a total OG. I've listened to his pod for years. He's a fantastic interviewer and a really thoughtful dude. Great to hear him riff outside his normal context.

@Bat_Boy 20 дней назад

My sister CREATES projects for herself, where she is constantly busy. She is creating an identity around these activities. My question: what is she running away from? She seems to be attempting to run away from herself, because she doesnt want to do the hard internal work, in being a good person.

@brianmeen2158 20 дней назад

She’s probably like most people - she’s very uncomfortable in her own head. I know several really successful people like that. They simply cannot take a night off where they sit alone on a deck and relax .. they must be busy 24/7 and that’s not healthy

@barbbrazes869 18 дней назад

I love Rich Roll! Very insightful and compassionate and wise!! Gratitude!

@DesignNotDefault 18 дней назад

I love this!! So many deep questions asked and answered by people who can speak to the tough parts of life.

@loppan4534 20 дней назад

The best part was when Rich talks about the period in his life when he suffered financially. And how he speaks about his wife ❤

@agakalinowska9823 15 дней назад

another great conversations from the best!! Just fun to listen to you over the years, evolve and pivot when you need to nd make something even better! thank you all for digging deep, bringing compelling stories from people that do and inspire, persevere, learn and share...

@msgooner13 19 дней назад

This was amazing. Thank you so much!

@brookes1911 20 дней назад

Great intro, pumped for this one!!

@ulusxs1096 20 дней назад

love your content mark. your content keep me going.

@carltonpenaloza1395 19 дней назад

The discipline comes in when you are slowly nudging your way one small step at a time from your old ways to your new habitual healthy ways. If you’re a couch potato who hasn’t exercised regularly for years, you can’t dream up some crazy plan to do P90X every day and have a Summer body in 6 months. You simply start walking, slowly gain momentum, and momentum is magical if you do the most important thing which is consistency. Chip away. Daily. HIIT can be a turbo boost but not the primary vehicle. The primary vehicle is slow progress. I’m fit. I have been addicted to exercising my entire life so I have never once considered it discipline because it’s harder for me not to do it 😅. Same with reading books. I do however need discipline to begin learning a second language or an instrument. I’m not sure if I could ever become addicted to learning a second language but probably most definitely it can become more of a habit the more consistently I do it.

@charlesmuller120 19 дней назад

You are so spot on with your "one step at a time" good habit transition and am super impressed with your awareness.

@neinnein3972 6 дней назад

"Nobody quits anything ever. We replace it with something better." Heard it from Jordan Peterson

@luzaguirre2830 3 дня назад

I have preached the transition to healthy addictions to deaf ears more than once

@santodejesus3012 12 дней назад

Thanks deeply 🙏

@JazzyArtKL 17 дней назад

Listened to your podcast during my work out! Great stuff man!

@SheriBellLifeCoach 19 дней назад

Neutrality gives you dignity. Wow!

@marydeasy5438 15 дней назад

Really enjoyed this. Great conversation. Thank you 😊

@cillan6523 20 дней назад

Love this 🙏❤️ Finally a realistic path to positive change 😊

@michelaj5339 20 дней назад

GUYS STOP CONSUMING AND START ACTING

@knitterlisa693 12 дней назад

Rich's story about Julie and the repo man is amazing! It brought me to tears really!!!

@Cap_Schultz 11 дней назад

As an addict this is such a powerful episode.

@EdjayMark 20 дней назад

Mark manson is my father but sometimes i forgot his teachings, because there's so many more important to know then his teachings of life.

@shivangpatel7995 20 дней назад

I love the summary in the beginning

@ariadnatellez1747 17 дней назад

loved this! thank you!

@christophersteel1424 19 дней назад

You said 13th step! I have found mine actually because I've been ruminating. An old friend of mine became my higher power. She fed me one line. "Feel the Steel," so now I do.

@Kate-rv6kx 20 дней назад

Mark quitting the marathon is as inspiring as Rick Rolls to me. Our culture is obsessed with pushing ourselves and not focused enough on finding a healthy balance and enjoying life. People with eating disorders have a ton of self-discipline. Lots of people have injuries during marathons that they never recover from. I tend to set extreme goals and stick to them with extreme discipline and end up hurting myself and missing out on things. It takes guts to admit that you changed your mind. Say it with your chest Mark! You quit that marathon like a boss!

@MNP208 15 дней назад

I trained for a marathon the year I turned 50. My goal was to finish, not to be competitive. It did not disrupt my life in a negative way. Running is meditative for me. You CAN do it in a healthy way.

@EcomCarl 19 дней назад

I've found that integrating structured, goal-oriented activities, like marathon training, can really help those with addictive tendencies develop a greater sense of control and achievement

@parisaforpeace 14 дней назад

50:49 "The idea that we understand what's happening is just our ego." This is to understand that we are part of something much bigger than ourselves.

@lindaelarde2692 10 дней назад

Brilliant conversation...really resonated with my tendency to be relentlessly self disciplined with "the good habits"...you made me self reflect on the why and what I may be avoiding. I think an awesome follow up from the questions you explore would be an interview with Robert Sapolsky about his controversial book, Determined...why there is no free will.

@Amalgamotion 20 дней назад

Huh, I've loved Rich's interviews for a while. More or less depending on the job I have and the ability to listen to things as I do. I think I've also gotta admit I think I caught the vibe about alternative ways of sobering up and maybe that made it easier to listen to other stuff. But this interview was pretty fascinating, Way to make me wish I could get this thought distiller to work we'd have a good batch here. The kinda hooch I'm really addicted to; knowledge.

@lepawtiquepetspaandshop8067 15 дней назад

Awesome! Resonate with so much!

@Ngo-bw5nj 17 дней назад

Best show guest ever with slipper on from Rich.Simple is always the best.Respect the covo with all appreciation ❤

@howeichin4103 20 дней назад

Going to watch later!

@Mike_Virata 19 дней назад

These are two my favorite people on RU-vid right now!

@catqua 20 дней назад

"isn't high endurance sports like your drinking to hide your real issues" Isnt that a natural coping mechanism responding to abuse from someone trauma bonding you. Coping mechanisms is a biological response and not a personal choice to stress in that moment. Drinking is a coping mechanism that works and the body and minds sickness is your hearts(feelings) trying to compromise the mind to choose another path. Compromising with yourself is another option. Choosing another path and eating healthy is another path and our body lets us know when we choose the right path. Compromise is the only way to learn from our mistakes. Radical excepting our actions and not blaming it on people. Using our body and not other people is safer.

@merlin_ezo 20 дней назад

you're amazing man

@KookyCloud 20 дней назад

GO easy on the EPIC MOVIETRAILER Music selection in the beginning, it is very distracting.

@rileymartin22 13 дней назад

Thank you gentlemen for this valuable conversation

@orengilad 20 дней назад

This was the crossover episode I needed.. Thanks for another fascinating talk! I hope Scott Galloway's on the way, too 🤞

@Rereshines 11 дней назад

Loved this interview!

@ishanmishra874 20 дней назад

love your content❤

@blueskies6699 18 дней назад

My son is an ultra marathon runner and has never been an addict. He has always been an over achiever however.

@iamalphalim 20 дней назад

1:01:18 “Put yourself in difficult situations where you’re forced to meet yourself” Reminds me of Jesus who said to take up your cross and St Paul who said “I die daily”

@jodiehellyer 15 дней назад

Loved this episode. Thanks guys! I just wish that Rich spoke about the benefits he’s experienced in life since going plant-based 🌱

@profundus8946 20 дней назад

The way they make eye contact with you as they say stuff like "addiction" and "pain"

@valeriejaeger4918 15 дней назад

Rich rocks and after hearing him talk about AA I found one to attend tonight! I gotta try it cause i want to go NA for the long run but i think ill need support. Great conversation!

@gavinchapple825 20 дней назад

Bro - it’s like your vids are built just for me - thanks! P.s do you stick your head out of a moving car to do your hair every morning???😜

@corinacocoreanu7 13 дней назад

Yes, but... what if we are addicted to always think that we are addicted? If you still searching for faults, than you will find them. Been there,done that.🤞🏽 Sometimes we should give it a rest. If you are at peace with yourself, then it's ok.

@Nuclearblastdrone 20 дней назад

My two favorite podcast guys. Fcking great episode

@Gunzy83 20 дней назад

That opening, I felt seen. My wife knows how cranky I get with no running lol

@microfx 20 дней назад

feat Rich Roll got me hooked. Waiting for the Rick Roll now

@christophersteel1424 19 дней назад

Oh my God I relate to you. I've literally said to people that I should just have the correct addictions. Ive been in AA for a while. Be addicted to the coin. Fine

@lisadixon6617 19 дней назад

I’m still on the intro and have already thumbs up and subscribed 🔥

@user-yl5pg3kx1q 20 дней назад

I've been in a chronic pain for a couple of years now, it doesn't make me more disciplined, quite the opposite actually.

@GudLawdHammercy 20 дней назад

Not physical pain, emotional trauma / pain.

@user-yl5pg3kx1q 20 дней назад

@@GudLawdHammercy Now you're suggesting years of chronic pain don't cause trauma.

@shawnbruce6934 14 дней назад

Great video Guys!

@Denmosocial 20 дней назад

Rich roll is one of the OG's

@Simplifytrade101 20 дней назад

I fallow you also

@iykomusic 20 дней назад

I listened on Spotify. This was an excellent podcast.

@denisemast8551 19 дней назад

I'm not able to pay for my trash removal service right now and collect my garbage and drop it in public garbage receptacles and gas station garbage cans. Rich makes me feel like less of a loser now that I know he experienced the same.

@laurameloy275 16 дней назад

Yes! Yes! Yes!

@KOD4K 15 дней назад

After reading Elon Musk's autobiography, I realized that Musk is a workaholic, and sure, it had many negative effects on his life, but overall, there's nothing really bad about being a workaholic as long as you're in a position to be compensated for your work. I never understood why military people are workaholics when you're not going to get a raise for your efforts, there's no guarantee that you will be promoted before or amongst your peers, and at the end of the day, you get the same retirement benefits as everyone else. But for someone in Musk's position, being a workaholic makes a lot of sense when you become the richest man in the world.

@dalethedippa5822 18 дней назад

Rich is such a badass. Love him

@IFSwithAndrea 13 дней назад

I understand Mark saying that running for 2 or 3 hours just isn't fun.... Could be related to him being (relatively?) new to it. After a LONG-ASS time (like years), some runners feel pretty good for many hours, as long as the fuel keeps going in. Your mileage may vary :)

@venezuela230287 9 дней назад

Mark's is is the only "bro podcast" I (as a late 30s woman) don't find cringe

@brotendo 20 дней назад

I'm in my 40s now. Do I have to start wearing a black t-shirt, too?

@Priyanshu-raj 20 дней назад

True

@TheLordOfPhantasms 19 дней назад

Goddamn you mark, I love you man, I´ve recently listened to a lot of stuff from Rich and thought the guy is just beyond awesome and u just brought him on! Thank u so much! Great Episode!

@tiffanynunez5957 12 дней назад

The way I related to the I just want to work and say fuck everybody else is sooo relatable. I’m currently a developing entrepreneur and work as a server but the satisfaction I get from helping people in that way is just top tier even if it is just making them smile from giving their food idk it’s weird