When Mr. Dudley was talking to Hugh about his and his wife's experience in the house and their stillborn baby, he says they hear their "first little girl's cry." Not their "little girl's first cry." Thats a clue that they had another little girl.
I am super impressed with you guys. I have watched at least a dozen other channels react to this show and you are the first ones to get to the reveal of Abigail at the sleep over and understand she is alive in that moment. So many people still think she's a ghost even when she's choking on rat poison.
The pieces have finally all fallen into place. The clock/repairman again show the house controlling space and time with Liv. In an early episode young Max (at the funeral home) talks about his grandmother and how she never blinks. Poppy never blinks when she is talking to Liv. Poppy was the ghost face that appeared behind young Nell in the first episode. She sees new children that she can "wake up". I find Poppy and her "logic" to be the most terrifying thing in this episode. The woman who takes Abigail's hand is her grandmother, most likely Mr. Dudley's mother. I'm looking forward to next week's final episode and your reaction!
You’re right - Hazel is the old lady in the bed. It’s the bed Theo touched in season 3 and called a “sick bed” and then Hazel called for “Clara” through the bedside house phone. Clara Dudley took care of Hazel in her old age when she would have been bedridden. Poppy was her sister in law married to William (Hazel’s brother) who wore a bowler hat.
Poppy is shown both as young and beautiful and also old and dead. Hazel is also shown as both, the older bed-ridden ghost and as a young woman when she takes Abigail’s hand and leads her away from the red room. They showed a picture of Hazel when she was younger when Nell finds the tea set.
This is one of my favorite series of all time. I watched it for the first time after losing my dad and it absolutely made me cry like a baby. But it beautifully represents such hard concepts and emotions to depict. Grief, mental illness, and generational trauma. It’s heart wrenching but I can’t wait for you guys to finish the show!! I think you’ll be moved 🫶
Sorry for your loss. It must have been hard watching this episode. It's always beautiful when a movie, show, or even song touches you in times when you need it.
Yep! It's because she was more than likely an evil person in life. She quite possibly murdered her own children. I mean, Mrs. Dudley said she was certifiably insane.
Well, Liv was doing the same thing Both Poppy and Liv had psychotic problems It's not Poopy is evil and Liv not... Both have obviously serious problems
@@meropemerope6096 I doubt Liv would have done any of what she did if she wasn't pushed to it by the house & Poppy. So yes, in this case, Poppy is evil. Liv was pushed to do evil. So, her & Poppy r not the same.
@@RamblersInc She definitely didn't get it in the asylum where William Hill met her. To tell u the truth, I think William ended up in the asylum because of the house. After returning to the house, I think he tried to get away from whatever was pushing him back into madness so he bricked himself up in the basement.
A real gut punch of an episode. Hugh's response to Liv's "You go on without me" is the most prophetic line in the whole series, "How could we?" Then the whole family fell apart. I actually kinda like Poppy, maybe I was born out of time and I just have a thing for flappers.
The woman who takes ghost Abigail by the hand at the end is Clara's mother, who also worked in the house. Its Abigail's grandmother. The ending, "no, you go on without me" "how could we," which is what the family is forced to do, kills me every time.
Great reaction, thanks. Very sad, although "Poppy needs a ghostbuster" did make me laugh. Looking forward to your reaction to the terrific finale where the remaining mysteries are revealed.
I think it's escaped everyone's notice that the Dudley's leave their 4-5yr old daughter HOME ALONE when they go to work at Hill House. It's no wonder she wanders.
If you pay attention you will notice you only see Mr. and Mrs Dudley in separate screens not together. When you see one the other parent is home watching Abigail. She's a child and curious about the other kids, so she can sneak out. Luke sees her in her blue dress a lot so it might be her ghost visiting him . He does see her in her Blue Dress in the window.
Hi guys!😊 It's me once again.😄 I have a couple of things to talk about. 1st thing is about the story Olivia told about the raining rocks. In the book "Carrie", Stephen King wrote that when Carrie White was 4 or 5 yrs old she made it rain pebbles after being reprimanded & slapped by her mother. Also, some 25 or so yrs ago, I read a book about haunted California including odd occurances. My fascination w/the paranormal had grown, & I figured why not read up on stuff from my home state. Plus, I wanted to understand my own experiences better. I remembered reading that somewhere in California it had rained rocks, but couldn't remember where/when it happened. I looked it up. On a clear day in 1922, a shower of stones in various sizes dropped from the sky & continued to fall for days in Chico, California. I don't know if there is a logical explanation for that, but odd, right. As far as haunting stuff in that Haunted California book I read, there was a house experiencing poltergeist activity. Marbles all of a sudden would fall from the ceiling in the living room. The investigators associated the activity to do w/the family's teenage daughter. They say that if u have poltergeist activity & a teenager the activity will increase because of the teen's hormonal changes. I'm telling u this paranormal stuff is fascinating. Anyway, with all that said, rocks raining down from the sky has happened, whether/not it can be a particular person doing it, I don't know. The title of the episode "Screaming Meemies" goes over a lot of reactors heads.😄 I knew to what that referred, maybe because of all the reading I've done. What's odd to me is "meemie" is what my family calls bedtime/sleep when talking to our children. We say, "It's time to go meemie." I have been babysitting children since I was 11 yrs old, & have always used that term. I saw another commentor say that Poppy is the only evil ghost in the house. I responded w/"Yep!". I believe her being a wicked/evil person in life was only amplified by the house in death. I do believe she killed her children. The woman was certifiably insane. I find it interesting that u gentlemen actually discussed how Olivia's attempts @ preventing the horrors of a possible future actually brought about that future. I don't think I have seen any other reactors comment on that. I think the house w/the help of Poppy corrupted Olivia's psychic abilities driving her mad. This version of Hill House is very much like the Overlook Hotel in the SHINING. The book "The Haunting of Hill House" is different. All the character names r in the book w/the exception of Shirley. Her name was used as a kind of tribute to the book's author Shirley Jackson. I think the best movie adaptation to the book is THE HAUNTING (1963). A mediocre remake of the same title starring Liam Neeson, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Owen Wilson & Lily Taylor (mom from THE CONJURING) was released in 1999. Ok, I think that's it. Great reaction. See u on the finale.😊
Marbles? as in ...marbles? That's wild. It's sweet when you say it like that. Screaming meemies makes a lot more sense now. It's so sad just how quickly Liv spiralled. And the ending just makes you think it was always going to happen.
@@RamblersInc Yes, actual marbles. When I was in elementary school which was from age 5 to 11 almost 12, I played marbles in the dirt w/the boys. I was pretty good. I was definitely tomboyish.😊 It was poor Liv that was caught in a screaming meemie, a nightmare from which she couldn't wake. I don't know if what happened was always going to happen or if the house kept the family on the course for things to play out the way they did. It was hungry after all. The future is not set in stone & can be altered by the choices we make.
@@jadejewel6586 I really liked that movie. A house full of restless spirits & psychics.😄 One of my sisters bought the book associated w/the movie, but I don't think she cared for it because it was different from the miniseries.
You guys are both so smart and perceptive. You can't know just how many reactors still don't realize at this point that Abigail has been real all along, let alone who she might belong to. Just an example. WATCH LOST!! You're the perfect duo for that show, and that's saying a lot!
Watched it weekly when it came out. Gripped from the beginning and wept at the end. I could probably still watch that finale in isolation and weep again. I blame the music. I might do a rewatch as Shyam hasn't seen any.
Two things. One Poppey is such a hawt ghost. The old woman is Hazel, poppeys mother in law. And 2 when you said it's creepy to think about all those ghosts watching I about died. You have no idea 😜 😅
@@ChelseaGeyer I literally did before posting. Because it had been years. But I think you are right. The place I looked said Jacqueline was puppy's sister in law.
I just wanted to throw in my two cents…I believe that Poppy being mentally insane doesn’t mean she’s evil. Insanity does not mean evil. It’s all about perception, isn’t it…? “Evil” is a moral term that implies intentional, conscious wrongdoing, whereas mental illness can impair a person’s ability to make such decisions. Therefore, it would not be appropriate to automatically label someone as evil based solely on their actions if those actions were influenced by severe mental disorder that impaired their judgment or control.
it's a fair argument. Or can those lines be blurred ? The only thing I'd say is that only the truly ill have malicious intent. Which sane person actively seeks to do evil ?
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