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The Hidden Engine Health Test in Ford EEC-IV PCMs that you need to know about. 

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Matthew takes you through a full diagnostic suite on a 1993 Mustang GT. Topics include how to use the scan tool, Key On Engine Off tests, Key On Engine Running Tests, and how to initiate and interpret the Cylinder Balance Test which can tell you whether you have a bad cylinder, and if so, which one.

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@davelowets
@davelowets Год назад
I do my "cylinder balance test" while I am cranking the engine with the starter, and the coil wire off.. You'll hear a distinct "skip" while an engine is cranking if it has a cylinder with low compression. If the engine sounds good while cranking, but then has a noticeable miss while it's running, then it's something simple such as a bad plug/wire, bad fuel injector, or something else easy to repair.
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
That’s a legitimate diagnostic even on a carb equipped car. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching!
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 14 минут назад
@@davelowets If it's efi, chances are flood mode is implemented and you can perform your compression balance test without opening the hood.
@306foxbody1
@306foxbody1 Год назад
Nice! I have the same scan tool! Found a bad coolant temperature sensor on my 92! Gotta love old school scan tools...worked like a charm! Great video Matt!!!
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
I'm surprised how many guys I see trying to diagnose problems with their Fox that don't even go as far as pulling codes, but I would be willing to bet that MOST of the guys who do pull the codes don't know that you can activate the cylinder balance test that is built in to the EEC-IV and find a dead or low contributing cylinder. It's such a powerful test when it comes to determining overall engine health or narrowing problems down to a particular cylinder!
@gregthody8723
@gregthody8723 Год назад
Thanks Matt! I also have the same tester, it’s old like me and it still works fine haha! This video was an excellent review and very helpful 👍👍
@ToyManFlyer1100
@ToyManFlyer1100 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂.... Well, I have this OBD1 tester...But...I have been living Blissfully Ignorant since I bought my 1993 Ford f150 5.0 truck with 143,000 miles on the clock presently , about 2 yrs ago... What started out as Standard maintenance and repair of the truck, since the last owner really didn't do any repairs and maintenance, is turning into a almost "Restoration "... I am replacing alota 30 yrs old parts that should've been replaced yrs ago.... Soo, by reading the codes, that would add even more to that list...Sooo, for me and now, I don't wanna know...😂😂😂😂...
@RobertSmith-js2kz
@RobertSmith-js2kz 3 месяца назад
This test is not hidden at all if you have an older OBD-1 mechanic-grade scanner. It just pops up as one of the options in my old OTC. Been doing it for MANY years ;)
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 3 месяца назад
Of course, and it isn’t supposed to be a secret, but I would wager that your average enthusiast watching this didn’t know about it, and that even when these cars were contemporary it wasn’t well known amongst owners.
@RobertSmith-js2kz
@RobertSmith-js2kz 3 месяца назад
@@tecmotiondyno I hear ya. Pure dumb luck that I stumbled on it to be honest.
@blueovalorangebowtieb.o.o.5688
@blueovalorangebowtieb.o.o.5688 Месяц назад
Great Video Ted!! Thanks from Tacoma WA!
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Месяц назад
Thanks for watching!
@thefoxlife3431
@thefoxlife3431 Год назад
Another great tech video from Tecmotion. I learned a lot of new hems today👍👍👍
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
Thanks for the great feedback!
@chrissanders2562
@chrissanders2562 11 месяцев назад
I have an 84 Lincoln that does not have a check engine light at all. But you can use a test light on the connector.
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 11 месяцев назад
Good feedback!
@abruptlyblunt
@abruptlyblunt Год назад
one of the best investments i ever made was to buy a used snap-on mt2500 back when ebay was flooded with them, i got the scanner and the ford, gm and other obd1 cartridges for $100, best 100 i ever spent.....
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
Good score.
@elliottbutts153
@elliottbutts153 Год назад
Interesting. I’ve got the same scan tool. Just got a clean bill of health on mine too. 9 beeps. Had 1 code with key on, engine off and 1 code with engine running. A trans oil temp and trans solenoid circuit. My car OEM had an automatic trans and someone went thru the headache of converting it to a T5 manual long before I got it 4 years ago. It’s always had those and I’ve always believed it was because of the manual trans swap. I was looking thru the manual for the diag tool and the cylinder test is actually in there and I never even knew it lol.
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
The cylinder balance test is documented but people don’t read the manual and some of those that do don’t recognize the power of this test! Sometimes you get codes on a modified car that just don’t apply.
@CarsFoodWeed
@CarsFoodWeed Год назад
dang they look sharp with clear headlights. Mine are fricken oxidized from sitting in the sun too much.
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
There are headlight restoration kits, but I have never used them. LMR sells new lights for reasonable money. I have used them in the past and they can make a real difference in how the car looks.
@ivanrobles454
@ivanrobles454 Год назад
This is great stuff. Thanks 👍
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
@survivethrive2468
@survivethrive2468 Год назад
Excellent videos !! Your how to vids are so helpful! I have recently followed along to your how to vids on the Power bond sfi balancer and radiator replacement on my 88 5.0 lx convertible. I just picked up the obd1 scanner from a local parts store and performed the key off test. Extremely simple and i only got one code which was a code 67 neutral switch which makes sense because i just completed a AOD to T5 swap on my car and the neutral safety switch is unhooked on the t5. I do want to try a engine running test and the cylinder test. I want to tackle the rear end gear install and get rid of my 273 gears for the 355 gears but i think after watching your video it might be out of my skill set. Could you do a video in the future on how to remove the foxbody 8.8 rear end out the car. I would like to remove my rear end and take to a shop to have the gears and rear end re built!! thanks alot!!!!!!!! best foxbody how to on youtube.
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
Thanks for your supportive comments. If I get a rear end removal job I will film it, but if your objective is just to do the gear change and you are hiring someone to do it, it will be simpler and less costly to do it in the car. If you are changing everything - control arms, shocks, weld on housing ends etc, and you more or less have to remove the housing anyway, it makes sense to do the gear swap with the housing out of the car and on jackstands, otherwise I think you are just making extra work. I usually book three days with the car for a gear swap because of interruptions and contingency, and the only step I usually do on the third day is to put the fluid in it because I prefer to let the rtv cure overnight. In bigger shops where the mechanic can just work on the car and doesn’t have to answer the phone and deal with walk in’s and all of the other little daily distractions, an 8 hour day is usually enough for the job, so you don’t generally have to give your car up for an extended period of time to get the gears changed.
@survivethrive2468
@survivethrive2468 Год назад
@@tecmotiondyno thank you so much!! 🙏biggest reason why I wanted to pull the rear out and take it to a shop was because I hate leaving my car at places unattended. Figured it be easier to take rear out car take the new parts and whole axle to a shop and say call me when it's done. I see what you are saying though! Thanks
@GOLiathus_over
@GOLiathus_over 4 месяца назад
i didnt know that rev up was a balance test, i wonder how i get the results on my obd2 eec-iv au falcon, ive been using forscan and an elm327 wifi
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 4 месяца назад
On a professional OBD2 tool, a similar test can usually be found under engine functional tests, and should be called something like Cylinder Balance or Power Balance. I can't speak to your specific application, but that is where to look.
@cashneaville303
@cashneaville303 11 месяцев назад
how does this test work on a 4.9 as the injectors are wired to fire others at same time. I have a 88f150 with 4.9 that had to redo upper harness and discovered in testing this harness that it fires them in pairs at same time. never would have known about it otherwise. thanks
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 10 месяцев назад
There are also 5.0 Ford setups that are batch fire. I have never personally tried the cylinder balance test on one of them.
@Backfire10
@Backfire10 Год назад
I Sir, I love the content here.. 90 Fox. I get a a thermactor code for KOEO. no worries, but for the KOER it's dead. No 4 flashs , just dead. Any idea of the issue? Car runs grate, but rich on idle. Thank you
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
I have seen them unable to test where the sig return line is blown on the PCM, but that should prevent the KOEO test as well. With the older style tester, you do need to start the car, then switch the tester from HOLD to TEST in order to initiate the KOER test, just in case you accidentally missed that step. Sometimes these weird problems are very hard to diagnose in person, never mind over the internet! Thanks for watching.
@moo3852
@moo3852 4 месяца назад
Will all of these tests work the same on an 89 e250?
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 4 месяца назад
Yes, most OBDI Fords have these tests. Some codes have unique meanings on trucks though, so pay attention to the notations on the code list.
@frederickhairston3823
@frederickhairston3823 Год назад
Got 1986 4 eye gt all stock seat over a decade found in salvage yard. Running very rich checked fuel pressure 39 psi replaced map sensor. Could be bad injector or harness.
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
Could be, or a computer fault. Could be oxygen sensors too. Try the cylinder balance test to see if the problem is limited to one or two cylinders.
@Really658
@Really658 Год назад
Bad temperature sending unit.?
@vincenthadjioannou3390
@vincenthadjioannou3390 Год назад
any idea what to do if your getting No power to the scanner plug? and my fule pump doesnt shut off, when key is on pump in always running. did the swap from 4cly to V8 and having some problems on my 87 coupe. any ideas ? Thanks
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
The first thing that I would be looking at is a bad pcm or blown sig rtn trace on the pcm caused by an incorrect loop back on the o2 sensor harness. Fuel pump running constantly is a typical symptom of a bad pcm or corrupted chip on the pcm.
@vincenthadjioannou3390
@vincenthadjioannou3390 Год назад
@@tecmotiondyno thank you !
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Год назад
No big deal. The only thing you lose is the 1-2 second prime cutoff at startup. I prefer constant run, and wired mine direct instead of through the computer. It's been fine for 28 years as is.
@Joesmusclecargarage
@Joesmusclecargarage 11 месяцев назад
The EEC-IV was a hell of a lot more advanced than the GM CCC or the power/logic module garbage Chrysler was running at the time.
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 11 месяцев назад
I totally agree with you on this.
@dadyo63
@dadyo63 6 месяцев назад
😊 thanks
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 6 месяцев назад
You are welcome. I hope it helped out!
@cjeffcoat2
@cjeffcoat2 Год назад
Does anyone know where I can purchase the audible, scan tool? I like the idea of being able to hear the beeps.
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
This used to be the version you bought, but mine was made when the Fox Mustang was contemporary. Innova 3145 is the modern day successor and should have all the same capabilities but displays the codes on an LCD. You might pick up an old one on eBay.
@cjeffcoat2
@cjeffcoat2 Год назад
Hey, do you have the model number of yours, I can’t see the screen on the a nova one.
@cjeffcoat2
@cjeffcoat2 Год назад
@@Olds_Pwr thank you
@cjeffcoat2
@cjeffcoat2 Год назад
@@Olds_Pwr just found one on eBay
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Год назад
Mine was $7 on clearance 20 yrs ago when they became digital.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Год назад
Doesn't the cylinder balance tests also include ignition as well as injectors? 🙄
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
No, it is an injector cut only.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 3 дня назад
Okay, these engines weren't all sequential fuel injection though, most were bank fire speed density fuel injection?
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 2 дня назад
I would say that the better part of them were SEFI including all the Mustang engines, but you are right, some of them are bank fire. I am not 100% sure how this test works on a bank fire version, but it could use a spark cut.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 2 дня назад
@@tecmotiondyno FWIW in my understanding, the earlier versions of efi were speed density because maf sensor technology was in it's infancy. My '95, '94, '90 Fords use speed density but california (CARB) versions were for '95 used maf. I'm not sure exactly which engines or when Ford first introduced maf, but those were all sequential injection as far as I know and speed density (MAP only) were all bank fire injection. In the case of '95 maf, ignition wasn't DIS, as far as I know. Thus I'm pretty sure if the ignition is dis, this will also be sequential injection. Then we have all the different versions of ecm's, parts availability (discontinued parts?), on and on... ;)
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 2 дня назад
Pretty well all of the speed density cars were SEFI - Mustang, T-Bird, Cougar, Mark VII, Crown Vic, Grand Marquis, etc. These will go back as early as 1986 in some cases. MAF was first introduced in the Mustang in California in 1988 and nationwide in 1989. The speed density trucks and vans were mostly bank-fire. MAF equipped trucks like some 93 E-Series vans were SEFI.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 2 дня назад
@@tecmotiondyno 1990 2.9 V6 Bronco II federal emissions? 1995 Bronco 5.8 Federal emissions? 1994 F250 460 Federal emissions? See electrical schematic, 8 injector channels or bank fire?
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno 19 часов назад
I don't have the 94 460 schematic or the 95 Bronco schematic handy. The 90 V6 Bronco is a MAP controlled vehicle and is batch fire. In most cases I think the MAF vehicles were SEFI and the cars were SEFI regardless of whether they were MAF or MAP, as I said.
@dmh1367
@dmh1367 Год назад
Where do I get the tester? I'm in the US
@tecmotiondyno
@tecmotiondyno Год назад
Search for ford obd1 on Amazon. There is an updated version on there for sure. I would guess that you can pick it up at lots of parts stores too. NAPA, O’Reilly, maybe Harbor Freight. When I looked on Amazon Canada it was a ready to ship item.
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