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The HIDDEN SYSTEM that Controls Shiny Pokemon 

Papa Jefé
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We now fully understand how the RNG works in Pokemon Legends Arceus.
Thanks to all the hard work of dataminers and developers, we can definitively answer "what's the best way to shiny hunt every type of encounter in the game?"
There's A LOT of information here, and I'm covering it in depth. So buckle up. I spent 8-12 hours making graphics, and another 8-12 hours editing... so the least you can do is watch until the end! :)
Thanks to Lincoln-LM for helping me!
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Thanks to Kurt, Anubis and SciresM for all their datamining efforts:
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@brianlinden3042
@brianlinden3042 2 года назад
Interestingly enough, now that version 1.1.0 has removed the ability to reset for the same outbreak, the multi-battle method is probably the best way to hunt for a specific pokemon now, so thanks for letting us know about this!
@Captivesnowy
@Captivesnowy 2 года назад
testing atm to see if it still scrambles the spawns using the multi-battle method or if they changed it to use only the set seed. Going to guess they haven't changed it though and that multi is the way to go
@Captivesnowy
@Captivesnowy 2 года назад
well doing 1x1, kill 2, kill 3 and recording them confirms they didn't change the way outbreaks spawn so yes multi-battle still gives you more checks. still getting the same number 5, 11, 16 spawns just like video so 0 changes at all
2 года назад
Ohhh the irony 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Mad-Lad-Chad
@Mad-Lad-Chad 2 года назад
@ You should pin this comment (not mine, Brian Linden's comment at the top here). I was actually looking into this exact thing and no other youtuber that I've found has covered the multi-battle system in the depth that you did here and you def deserve credit now that this is the best way to shiny hunt on a single outbreak. I didn't see this comment at all until I manually sorted by newest instead of top. Most people won't do that. Also finally subscribed, really awesome breakdown of the data here. This is the kind of info I've been wishing I had!
@belgabad
@belgabad 2 года назад
I didn't quite understood all the details in the video, currently the method for hunting a specific shiny with regular mass outbreak (not Massive massi outbreak) is : (Assuming the pokemon is agressive and can be battled) - Go the zone, save - Battle the first 4 - Catch 1 by 1 until outbreak ends - Reset, and restart the same process Or is it to only make 4 battle and reset until you have the shiny ? Trying to figure it out but even by testing it's difficult to see
@anonymousscol17472
@anonymousscol17472 2 года назад
PSA: If you haven't yet been in a Papa Jefé stream, go ahead and give it a try. Won't regret it! Let's help this man's channel grow
@overdose5786
@overdose5786 2 года назад
Your passion and knowledge really shin through! Extremely well explained, the best and most definitive guide to shiny hunting/RNG mechanics especially for a layman like myself
@BingBongFairy
@BingBongFairy 2 года назад
Hehe shin
@SnoFitzroy
@SnoFitzroy 2 года назад
LMFAO "SHIN" SIDJEJDJWKDENDJW
@majesticunicorn5399
@majesticunicorn5399 2 года назад
One other thing to note, is that while youre waiting for a space time, if you do happen to get an extreme weather along the way, it is best to go in to a battle and wait for the weather to change, otherwise the weather will reset your timer for a space time, but since youre in a battle youre timer is paused.
@nightigal
@nightigal 2 года назад
My preferred way to do this is to at the beginning of the timer find a shacking tree/ore deposit and wait there. If extreme weather occurs you just throw your Pokémon out and start the battle. That or an alpha Pokémon. I try to avoid battling anything that will run away from battle.
@bryan0648
@bryan0648 2 года назад
Great vid! I didn't think i could understand something this technical but you explained it very well. Thank you for all the work youve put in
@Hikarixhikarixhikari
@Hikarixhikarixhikari 2 года назад
This was excellently made, thank you for putting in the time to give us this information!!
@JoFo-cl6ro
@JoFo-cl6ro 2 года назад
The video being exactly 30 minutes is really pleasing to see
@MrGamis
@MrGamis 2 года назад
It's always fun seeing the culmination of the research all these communities do to break down a game. Excited to watch and learn
@Osirus
@Osirus 2 года назад
Another banger, great video thanks for taking the time to share this 👍
@dubstepboozenweed
@dubstepboozenweed 2 года назад
Idk how you dont have more subs! Your content is awesome, and love the way you break everything down for people who don't know much about the hidden stuff in pokemon. Awesome work man 😎
2 года назад
Comments like this actually make me feel so good. All the "Grow Your RU-vid Channel" videos say that once you start getting this comment, you're on the right track. One day the algo will bless me. Just gotta keep making stuff I find interesting.
@unnikrisnans6948
@unnikrisnans6948 2 года назад
The explanation alone made me a subscriber. Hoping to see more from you. Thanks for this video. :)
@gigsmedina
@gigsmedina 2 года назад
First time viewer and I must say your explanation of the RNG is by far the easiest to comprehend. Thank you for this,
@wiredcoma
@wiredcoma 2 года назад
Really Amazing work, research, and video! Thanks so much for helping us all making shiny hunting alot more efficient! 😀
@Rhydonal
@Rhydonal 2 года назад
This information was so in depth and easy to understand. Thanks very much for your hard work. :)
@pepus777
@pepus777 2 года назад
This should be the definitive shiny hunting guide for this title. Great job with presentation, explanation and citing your sources.
@Scuuurbs
@Scuuurbs 2 года назад
Was looking forward to a deep-dive behind the scenes, nice
@CrystalMorrin
@CrystalMorrin 2 года назад
Very informative!! Clearly explains literally everything, thank you so much!
@ModestNeko
@ModestNeko 2 года назад
Awesome guide! Very helpful. I once found an Alpha Abomasnow and a shiny one then another shiny. Now knowing that alpha could have been a shiny if I caught it sooner (though I did catch it pretty quick) is crazy. Good to know for next time.
@Rathulf
@Rathulf 2 года назад
this channel should have more subscribers. I'll be recommending this channel to my pokemon friends
@DaBizzyBorg
@DaBizzyBorg 2 года назад
This information is awesome. Nice work my dude
@Iplayhardgames
@Iplayhardgames 2 года назад
Just one thing to help. I found that your outbreak is only 80% likely to stay on the map if you have travelled to the zone that the outbreak is in. I noticed when I was going back and forth from Jubilife to try and get a Zorua outbreak to spawn in the Icelands, that going to the highlands or any of the other zones meant the outbreaks were much less likely to stay in the Icelands when I didn’t want them. so rotating through the outbreaks was quicker went I went to the zone that wasn’t the one I wanted to change. when I travelled to the Icelands, which then triggered the 80% retention rate, as that was the zone I was in, I noticed it took longer to get through to the one I wanted
@usamasaud11
@usamasaud11 Год назад
You put in a lot of work in this. Good job.
@paulm.3591
@paulm.3591 2 года назад
Great work man, ty for the usefull infos !
@Brettski89
@Brettski89 2 года назад
cool video! i have a question though, does sleeping reset the 5min check for a distortion?
@tehdrumerer3
@tehdrumerer3 2 года назад
thank you for compiling and presenting all this info without all the typical content creator flourishes. you’re the best poketuber I’ve seen when it comes to this category. hope your channel continues to grow Jefe!
@planecrazy666
@planecrazy666 2 года назад
Hey Papa thanks for the great vid makes sence with spawns now
@Atizzle121310
@Atizzle121310 2 года назад
Great information. A lot of information, but great information.
@VenomSWR
@VenomSWR 2 года назад
Thank you so much for all these informations, I was wondering a lot about this, so it really helped me understand a lot more about the game ! Now I got a question, and it's a bit weird, but would you happen to know when a Pokémon is generated in Sword and Shield ? Because, since the game came out, I've been doing the KO-Dex method, going to each Pokémon spawning and either killing them to get to 500, or fleeing if i'm over that. But I was wondering if they were generated the moment they're spawned on the map or the moment you encounter them. I know static encounters are generated the moment they spawn, but I have no clue about "normal" pokémons and I can't find any info online ! Thanks a lot man once again :)
@SnoFitzroy
@SnoFitzroy 2 года назад
They're (uhh quite ovbiously) generated on spawn. You, um, can't spawn smth you didnt generate. By definition. Like that's what spawning the thing MEANS, is that it's already generated. So yeah most of us have failed shinies in SwSh and not known Also the plural of Pokémon is Pokémon. How do you mess that up
@VenomSWR
@VenomSWR 2 года назад
@@SnoFitzroy The fact you don't see them shine in the overworld and have to go in a battle to find out can be pretty confusing because you could absolutely spawn a Mon as an "empty shell" that has no ID until the player interacts with them. That, basically, was what I asked. And yeah, in english maybe it doesn't take an s, but guess what, english is not my first language, and in my native tongue, we actually say Pokémons when talking about multiple of them. But hey, keep being awesome and kind, cheers mate
@McGoofy1001
@McGoofy1001 2 года назад
Bro you're the first person I've heard describe an unsearched shiny as Gravy and for that alone I'm subscribing
@greenmeatybones6983
@greenmeatybones6983 2 года назад
This was fantastic! Absolutely will be coming back to this video for future reference. Wish me luck on my shiny porygon hunt!
@shadowthief6471
@shadowthief6471 2 года назад
You cant find porygon in an outbreak
@shadowthief6471
@shadowthief6471 2 года назад
Oh nevermind ignore my reply
@JohnboyTheGamer
@JohnboyTheGamer 2 года назад
12:26 WHY YOU ADD THAT LOL MY HEART
@ishanrko
@ishanrko 2 года назад
amazing video! thanks for compiling this, I actually messaged you in Yoggerz stream . I had a question though, when trying to get shiny alphas and soft resetting. If every spawn is unique and not a repeated number, why do some people take 1000 try's to spawn an alpha shiny with 1/ 585 odds. I though it wasn't a completely random roll, or is it
2 года назад
Sorry I don't quite understand your question. Are you talking about outbreaks or normal spawns?
@midnighttfoxx
@midnighttfoxx 2 года назад
Very informative video, thank you for all the work you did to figure this out! I do have a question that you may know the answer to; I have been shiny alpha hunting zorua and after about 200 outbreak resets my outbreak is stuck at spawning exactly 10 zorua per reset. Do you know why this could have happened?
2 года назад
10 is the minimum size for an outbreak. So what likely happened is that your Zorua Outbreak actually changed to a different Zorua Outbreak, with less Pokemon. There is a chance that when the 20% roll happens, it re-rolls to the same species. So in 200 resets its bound to happen once.
@endersolo5332
@endersolo5332 2 года назад
As someone who is just getting into shiny hunting , this is the best explanation I have seen. I actually feel like I understand some of it it now.
@KingRevvi
@KingRevvi 2 года назад
Got this in main page recommendation 😎 fantastic analysis
@air_dealer
@air_dealer 2 года назад
For shiny swap would it be possible to repeatedly go to different times to get different spawns or is it simply just two pokémon in a day/night cycle? For example if I were to find a shiny ralts in front of the keystone, would i be able to repeatedly swap the shiny for the 1% Spiritomb or would I just have to get lucky with the first spawn being him?
2 года назад
Nope, its going to be the same roll value for day or night. You'll lose the shiny frame if you try to just wait there. It'll despawn.
@aldra9088
@aldra9088 2 года назад
Awsome stuff man!
@infernovulpix1539
@infernovulpix1539 2 года назад
I think it might be possible for fleeing Pokemon to count as multi-despawns as well. When I was hunting Eevee a few days back, I was using flee tactics to despawn them and on one rep I found an alpha near the end of the outbreak, on the next rep I found an alpha in the middle of the outbreak, and on the rep after that I found an alpha at the start of the outbreak. My strategy for getting them to flee involved dropping out of the sky into the middle of their group, so I got worried I was scaring all four of them at the exact same time and unknowingly replicating a return to Jubilife. It's also possible that my rng just felt a little whimsical that day, but it might be worth investigating just in case ideal flee tactics is 'run up to them from one side so they notice you one by one instead of all at once'.
@JAADization
@JAADization 2 года назад
I'm not much of a numbers guy so this helped me understand RNG manipulation a lot more than before :)
@HushR6
@HushR6 2 года назад
I wish it was more possible to demonstrate each senario more in-depth in game wise or it’s just not clicking for me either way great content!
@johnfranklin87
@johnfranklin87 2 года назад
So, if I have a shiny as one of the original 4, is there a way to now reset and reroll to try for a shiny alpha? Asking cause I just found a shiny Magby flying over a mass outbreak, like I saw it before I heard the noise lol i was just staring like 😬 lol and i saved at the camp before I came over
@anthonymarble6650
@anthonymarble6650 2 года назад
Is there a way to check the seeds for where the shiny is yet for arceus. I have my switch with cfw and capture site but I have no clue how to use the information.
@AzureGreatheart
@AzureGreatheart 2 года назад
Colosseum music? Heck yeah!
@edoardocherubin6783
@edoardocherubin6783 2 года назад
Now I want a video update with the new version and the new massive mass outbreak! 😍
@jeannotte9710
@jeannotte9710 2 года назад
Sir I say sir... I used the knowledge you shared with the best times to search for certain mons and 2nd jubilife reset I caught a monferno 3rd attempt alpha chimchar! Thank you for sharing this knowledge
@epinsent
@epinsent 2 года назад
Always meant to ask, are the trees governed by the same base mechanics as other single spawns? Do they share a spawn table based on zone, or do some trees have higher odds to drop say cherubi than burmy?
2 года назад
Every tree has its own table, just like single spawners. Only trees in specific areas have Cherubi. If you go to this page, and click the "Shaking Trees" button you can see all the trees on the map, and see what can spawn there. www.serebii.net/pokearth/hisui/obsidianfieldlands.shtml
@Dani-tp4wn
@Dani-tp4wn 2 года назад
this has been amazing info! Also, knowing about the weather is Extemely helpful for space time distortions thank you! Hope to nab that shiny oshawott line one of these days, theyre the only one i have perfected dex entries. And, it sounds fun to full/half odds hunt by making a route. didnt think about that! thank you!!
@immunok948
@immunok948 2 года назад
Can't wait to have an new recap on how rng works now. Does killing an outbreak of bidoofs change the seed for the outbreak of zoruas, for example ? Is there a seed per species outbreak (I doubt it, but...) ? Is it unshuffulable now ? If an outbreak transforms into an alpha one at the end, does changing the way you kill the first ones affect the spawns of the alphas ? So many new exciting questions... I'm looking forward to this.
@AedriausOlive
@AedriausOlive 2 года назад
wild, thanks for the in-depth guide
@Rose_J
@Rose_J 2 года назад
Super-interesting, thanks!
@ashleighharkness929
@ashleighharkness929 2 года назад
Came here for Papa, stayed for the sound effects *pop pop pop*
@Toxix_RexX
@Toxix_RexX 2 года назад
BRO I WAS WATCHING THIS WILE RUNING AROUND AND RIGHT WHEN YOU SAID THE SOUND A SHINY MAKES I HEARD THE SHINY SOUND LOL
@Captivesnowy
@Captivesnowy 2 года назад
The new question is in a massive mass outbreak with a star does the first outbreak seed affect the 2nd one? Edit: From a quick test I believe the answer is yes. I had a MMO with a start and did both 1 by 1 and the 2nd horde had a shiny. I reloaded and multi-killed the first 2 of the first horde then 1 by 1'd the rest of the first and all of the 2nd and the shiny did not appear in the 2nd. Edit 2: That raises a 2nd question do all the outbreaks on the map share the same seed progression?
@Squeeky
@Squeeky 2 года назад
It's sad that the mass outbreak system got changed today since you put so much work into this video
@Captivesnowy
@Captivesnowy 2 года назад
I doubt they completely changed the system most of it can probably be carried over and in fact it probably makes the multi checking an outbreak with the 1x1, kill 2 then 1x1, then kill 3 + 1x1 a more viable strategy
@Ryan-sr5sy
@Ryan-sr5sy 2 года назад
Fantastic guide!
@4andpat4
@4andpat4 2 года назад
I have had a couple of space time distortions where i did not get a single exclusive spawns. rode around trying to find rowlet or cyndaquil but did not get any of them or the others that can spawn there. also i have had it happen to both save files on my two switch. does not happen every space time distortion but about every 5 or so.
@lotnegative
@lotnegative 2 года назад
I've been hunting shiny Oshawott for the past four days and had the same thing happen once. I ran around plenty, so there's no way I wouldn't have triggered the spawns (also I roughly know their locations by now). Said distortion also took more than 40 minutes to appear. My game was definitely bugging. It's extra frustrating, because you have that added anxiety of not knowing if *that* distortion is the one that would have spawned your desired shiny.
@kingrex9622
@kingrex9622 2 года назад
Are the group spawns in the distortions and the single spawns in the distortions pregenerated when the distortion spawns?
@chrayez
@chrayez 2 года назад
Even if the spawns aren’t pre-generated when the distortion appears, I don’t think it really matters, because you can’t really reset a distortion. Reloading will still reset the 40 minute timer, so it wouldn’t be any faster than going to jubilife.
@DZK312
@DZK312 2 года назад
something i want to note, i could be wrong but i think they patched the changing a shiny pokemon's species thing in 1.1.0. i found a shiny chatot but it quickly despawned as night fell after i got to it (real bad timing). so i reset and realized that since i already had a shiny chatot, i could try to turn it into a shiny duskull, and i slept to night before encoutering it in the next instance but it was a regular duskull. gonna have to settle for the dupe unfortunately
@RiskyBizz
@RiskyBizz 2 года назад
HELP sleeping three times doesn’t change the alpha’s stats. I tested this with the alpha infernape in obsidian..the only time it spawned a new alpha with different stats was when I went to jubilife and came back. What did I do wrong? Can you make a video demonstration?
@thegreenkacheek
@thegreenkacheek 2 года назад
Without going back to Jubilife, a fresh alpha will only spawn if you catch/ko the old spawn. Otherwise, you're just seeing the same one over and over.
@mystictimewarp9831
@mystictimewarp9831 2 года назад
This is my first time on the channel and i was gonna call you papa rogan because you look like seth rogan haha then i saw what your name was lol hi jimmy diggin the content brotha keep it up just here to show some love
@jefersonbatista8240
@jefersonbatista8240 2 года назад
That 3D spawm map makes me think about the spawns next a losts satchels being more likely to be shiny. I have that feel before. Now this make more sense and could be possible. Very complete, informative and very well explained video. Thanks!
@Vishuddhabbbx
@Vishuddhabbbx 2 года назад
AH the menu music from Coliseum!
@jayplay8869
@jayplay8869 2 года назад
Ppl say they don’t put effort into their game and are lazy. This right here shows they are very passionate about the game, as in passionate in making dumb hidden nightmares for the player to over come just for a regular game.
@tylerrobinson4390
@tylerrobinson4390 2 года назад
Absolutely love the colosseum music much respect
@edoardocherubin6783
@edoardocherubin6783 2 года назад
Papa Jefé, something strange happened to me today 😅 I was hunting for dartix with the new multiple mass outbreak and at the end a shiny decidueye appear.. I thought to switch off the console cause all the dartix give me a lot of trouble and I lose a lot of balls, and since I save near the base I was sure to not fail it.. But when I catch them all again.. There weren’t any shiny decidueye... Wtf? I’m sure that there was at least one shiny, and I’m sure that was the same outbreak! The alpha were the same with the same exactly order... What happens? I tried again 4/5 times catching 1 by 1 but there wasn’t shinies anymore...
@Checkstarr
@Checkstarr 2 года назад
Very appreciative of the efforts to describe this vast world of shiny hunting Pokémon ✨ Papa with the goods again! 🙌🏼
@tntgaming828
@tntgaming828 2 года назад
So that means if you get a shiny on spawn 5 in outbreaks you're best to not complete the outbreak because you could catch that 1 and go re seed and catch it again?
2 года назад
No, once you've caught Pokemon #5, if you save, the outbreak reseed will also save. Your total Outbreak Pool will be decreased, and you'll be on a new seed. It only spawns twice, if you reload and advance without catching\saving.
@Kinoso98
@Kinoso98 2 года назад
What happens when you enter a multi battle, catch one and then flee from all the other ones in the multi battle?
@ShaySuveran
@ShaySuveran 2 года назад
Oh dear lord that background music brings back the "happy go lucky" memories of farming jirachis on my colosseum bonus disc... DA DA! DA DA DA DA DA DA DA! DA DA DA! DA DA! DA DA DA DA DA DE DE DE DE!
@YardiChef
@YardiChef 2 года назад
Outbreaks seemed funny to me at first, my first two outbreaks of Grotle the shinies were both modest.
@mobious01
@mobious01 2 года назад
Is it ok to go in and throw pokeballs to catch outbreaks as fast as possible? Or doing that will mess up the rng as well?
2 года назад
In most cases, its fine. Very rarely, if you catch Pokemon very close together, they can sometimes get "backed up" and cause a Double Despawn. But its not consistent or predictable. You might notice it as a bit of lag between the captures completing and the new Pokemon spawning. It won't mess you up if you do it this way, but it could lead to a shiny that's difficult to reproduce.
@MrGamis
@MrGamis 2 года назад
Curious, is there a public sheet or data spread that has outlined every spawn location and species available to spawn at that location? Or better yet, a map that has the best route to take with the spawns and species outlined for that route? Call me lazy, but for a lot of casual players who don't have time to analyze the spawns and species, would help a lot for hopping on for an hour and doing a little shiny hunting
2 года назад
The Serebii Pokearth Map is the best resource I know of. Could very well be another one, I'm just a dinosaur. www.serebii.net/pokearth/hisui/obsidianfieldlands.shtml Optimizing routes on individual maps to see max # of unique Pokemon, would be a fun side quest.
@johnfranklin87
@johnfranklin87 2 года назад
@ man I just love hearing serebii mentioned lol i remember going into the forums waaaay back in the day making pokefusions on paint 🤣🤣 I use them for everything! And this video helped clear up a lot of theories. Thanks for the great work to you and all those actually putting in the work like Anubis and whoever else! *Insert clap gif*
@spencertreadway9444
@spencertreadway9444 2 года назад
Where do I see the alpha shiny chapter
@chmieldeal07
@chmieldeal07 2 года назад
Multi-batyle scenario questio. Does it treat it as knocking it out one at a time if you have a multi battle, on knock out only one ( or catch only one) and then you run from the battle.
@chmieldeal07
@chmieldeal07 2 года назад
in the context of outbreaks
2 года назад
No. It's about how many you kill/catch. So if you enter battle with 4, and kill 2, then run, it's the same as just battling 2 and killing 2.
@chmieldeal07
@chmieldeal07 2 года назад
@ Thanks for answering! I am a little confused by that answer. So you are saying entering a battle with 4 and ko-ing 2 is equivalent to entering a battle with 2 and ko-ing both of them. So if that's the case, entering a multi-battle with 4 and ko-ing or capturing just 1, and then running, would be equivalent to just entering the battle with 1 and ko-ing or catching it. Specific situation here is trying to do an outbreak with Gyarados where it's reaaally hard to just catch them one at a time on the water, so entering battles is helpful. Just wanted to make sure I understood that I could still work the outbreak "optimally"by just feinting them one at a time and exiting the battle if there were more than one. Sorry if any of that is confusing. Thanks again for your content and explanations!
2 года назад
@@chmieldeal07 You are correct. Entering a battle with all 4, catching 1, and then running is the same as just catching or killing 1.
@chmieldeal07
@chmieldeal07 2 года назад
@ Thanks so much! You helped me catch a shiny alpha 💛
@assbutter7627
@assbutter7627 2 года назад
You use colloseum music....ill sub
@imablisy
@imablisy 2 года назад
What’s the best way to deal with multi spawners in wormholes? It’s just multi catch?
2 года назад
Throw Sticky Globs, roll around back, Gigaton Ball. GLOB GAMING. Its the fastest way to cycle spawns for sure. Yogg has hit like 30 Pokemon Caught in a single rift.
@SnoFitzroy
@SnoFitzroy 2 года назад
TL;DR (of what I wrote below): the die metaphor, while great for explaining in terms of odds, misses some nuances of how shininess is actually determined (and therefore a little bit of how rerolls work) 9:36 ok so while this was obviously an intentional simplification, it's worth pointing out that the odds being "1/4096" is actually a misnomer. If you simplify the fraction it's true, but the process of determining shininess is a bit more involved and *the true base odds are 16/65536* because the shininess comes from an equation using your ID and the specimen's ID (the specimen saves the ID of who caught it which is why shininess doesn't change when traded) The reason this matters is mainly just because the dice roll metaphor breaks down here. It's a 65,536 sided die numbered from 0-65535. If you roll a 1 to a 15, you get a shiny. If you roll a 0, you also get a shiny except it has a different sparkle animation in swsh only (this is why transfer shinies can be square shiny) The game only actually rerolls if a PID wouldn't have been (so when you see a boosted shiny you have no idea if it was the first roll that was shiny or the 17th or something. Once a shiny ID is found, that specific spawn doesn't keep rolling as it's already shiny.
2 года назад
Yeah 100%. I left out PID-rerolls and TID\SID intentionally just to make it easier to understand. Coulda spent another 10 minutes talking JUST about "what determines Shiny-ness"
@Augoeides32
@Augoeides32 2 года назад
So, I'm super confused. I always thought the best/efficient method, was to just look at the 4 Pokemon in an Outbreak, and then go back to Jubilife and re-enter the map, because that just gets rid of the initial Pokemon of #1 to #4, and advances them to #5 through #8, which is way faster than catching to see the next 4+. Are you saying that returning to town without catching anything causes the seeds to advance randomly for that next (as if a multibattle), instead of a linear progression? Does that mean I should enter the map, catch them all, reload my save and leave the map (which causes 4 random seeds), then come back and catch them all again, over and over? Or was my intial method fine? This video confused me more than anything. I thought only multibattles caused random advances, not going to town.
2 года назад
Indeed, it's not linear and works as I've described. If you're only checking the first 4 and then returning to Jubilife, you're missing unique lines of Pokemon. If it's a difficult to capture Pokemon, it's possible only checking the top 4 is faster in terms of encounters/hour. But for most Pokemon you can catch them (or force them to run) quite quickly and see the full pools on each "day." As I mentioned, only Pokemon #5 from Day 1, and Pokemon #1 from Day 2 are duplicates in this scenario.
@Augoeides32
@Augoeides32 2 года назад
@ I've done some testing today, and I got a few Pokemon by catching them all each time, but it's really time consuming. Maybe I'll just use my old method for aggressive Pokemon, like you said, but continue to experiment with catching them all for others. The annoying part is the constant resets, when you get nothing, on top of having reload your saves when the Outbreak vanishes.
@corynobbs6619
@corynobbs6619 2 года назад
If you get into a multi battle in an outbreak but only catch/kill one then run away, is it the same as a 1v1 battle?
2 года назад
Yes. Its all about the despawning.
@Manster559
@Manster559 2 года назад
@ so basically catch one by one or kill one by one to have more of a consistent different spawns? Aka getting a shiny
@aeriussygale
@aeriussygale 2 года назад
You say of sleeping to change the weather off of anything extreme that blocks Space-Time Distortions, but doesn't resting at a camp and altering the time of day reset the timer toward a Space-Time Distortion spawning...? I have heard that. So, the idea makes me a little nervous... I really just need the weather to not mess things up at the perfectly wrong time on me.
2 года назад
Yeah only sleep to change the weather when you first arrive on the map, if you sleep to a new time it does in fact reset the rift timer.
@aeriussygale
@aeriussygale 2 года назад
@ Gotcha. Thanks! Appreciate the confirmation.
@prixtn
@prixtn 2 года назад
you can safely go into a Multi Battle as long as you only Kill/Catch 1 and then run away. this way only 1 Pokemon despawns at a time and the seed goes on as intended
@k_DEDb07
@k_DEDb07 2 года назад
great video
@lifestylegaming90
@lifestylegaming90 Год назад
so that explains why i got the shiny piplup back to back
@zombiefiedchris
@zombiefiedchris 2 года назад
Where's Dat twitch link?!
2 года назад
twitch.tv/papa_jefe
@devonfuginowskinstien7500
@devonfuginowskinstien7500 2 года назад
I got all the new ones except the starters. Working on them though.
@kevinm4701
@kevinm4701 Год назад
I think you need to update your video to the lastest version of PLA I think different shiny Pokemon depending on time of day has been patched.
@rjfrost7090
@rjfrost7090 2 года назад
Watching this while RNG continues to deny me a Shiny Gardevoir from an outbreak despite 40+ reloads when I've got the Shiny Charm and a Perfect Dex Entry.
@jfiffl7
@jfiffl7 2 года назад
Its how the "Mechanics" Have been with all the switch exclusive pokemans and even the pokemans through 5th Generation that was trying to put a wedding ring on a certin someones finger.
@Elektrakosh
@Elektrakosh 2 года назад
Apart from shiny ponyta, I haven't found a single shiny. I am thinking it's my Nintendo account since everyone but me can get shinies. In b4 outbreaks, nope not a hint. Tried all the resets and stuff and they simply don't appear. Also I don't miss the telltale sounds/visuals. Because they're aren't any. Yes the pokedex for that Pokémon is perfect....looks like I'll have to try and get the stupid shiny charm.
@morrigan7017
@morrigan7017 2 года назад
You just aren’t hunting long enough. Giving up is your worst enemy when shiny hunting. With outbreaks sometimes you just get unlucky and you might have to go to 54 outbreaks for one and the 3rd the next. It’s just rng.
@darmirmo
@darmirmo 2 года назад
Always the Best
@geraldtricker1
@geraldtricker1 2 года назад
With Space Time Distortions, don't sleep for the weather. If you enter a battle, the weather will change eventually so if you are close to 40 minutes and the negative weather appears, enter a battle and just wait till the weather changes again.
2 года назад
I should have been more clear on this. Meant to say that you should only sleep to get rid of extreme weather when you first arrive on the map.
@geraldtricker1
@geraldtricker1 2 года назад
@ that makes alot more sense. If you did mention it and I missed that I apologise. Was very good to find all the information compiled and broken down. Thank you.
@mystictimewarp9831
@mystictimewarp9831 2 года назад
They need to make a shiny hunting pokemon game
@owlitup2225
@owlitup2225 2 года назад
this guy is the real deal
@kingofzzion2980
@kingofzzion2980 2 года назад
I like your spirit ty popa
@TrickIcarus
@TrickIcarus Год назад
Wish a dataminer would do this to pogo
@internetcontrolunit1
@internetcontrolunit1 2 года назад
had rainy distortion lots of times
@Kiwiqwp
@Kiwiqwp 2 года назад
I'm a simple pokemon, I see rowlet on the thumbnail, I click.
@RafaelUzumaki6
@RafaelUzumaki6 2 года назад
Unfortunate that the space time exclusives will be the hardest shinies to hunt. About 40 mins wait time and only 3 spawns is insane. Makes me wish we had breeding in this game.
@anthonykosnik7647
@anthonykosnik7647 2 года назад
And you can't save and reset because the distortion will be gone. I failed a shiny rowlet and learned this the hard way. Though I did get a shiny Magnemite today, so silver linings.
@lotnegative
@lotnegative 2 года назад
And you don't even get three guaranteed spawns for the Pokémon you're looking for. There's a good chance you'll have waited 40 minutes just to get three different are spawns, which makes it 0 encounters in 45 minutes (added 5 minutes for the distortion). On another note, from my personal experience distortions can malfunction and spawn no rare spawns at all. Rare spawns are tied to locations and are triggered by you walking by close enough, so there's no way not to trigger them even if you're late and the distortion has already started, as long as you walk around enough. Yet, I did have a distortion without rare spawns (and said distortion took more than 40 minutes to appear, so my game was bugging in general as it seems). I've been hunting for a shiny from the Oshawott line for the past four days so I can get a shiny Hisuian Samurott. It's torture, even with the Oshawott line being the easiest to hunt with just one other possible rare spawn. I've had plenty distortions that only spawned Scizor. I have the shiny charm and perfect research for Oshawott and Dewott (I didn't bother for Samurott, since it spawns incredibly rarely. I've only seen three so far.), but that doesn't make it a fast hunt.
@stettkt1
@stettkt1 2 года назад
that's why i'll just end up sending over shiny cyndaquil and oshawot from Go once Home is compatible. i may have shiny rowlet somewhere on other games. in the mean time, maybe try breeding a shiny rowlet on swsh?
@NachoConsumer
@NachoConsumer 2 года назад
I just got a shiny alpha rufflet while watching this video XD
@Nickadabra
@Nickadabra 2 года назад
excellent work dude for real
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