The History of "Once Saved Always Saved" How a Gnostic Heresy Infiltrated the Church 

The author of this video nailed it. "OSAS" was invented by John Calvin.

Ahhh the one and only John Calvin, le'ts hope we get this one right about this dictator that roamed the streets of Geneva like a madman.

Good work, men of God. Thanks and may God richly bless you for speaking the truth.

Just because the Gnostics had a erroneous understanding of the security of the believer, doesn't negate the fact that the believer is 'kept by the power of God' - and anyone kept by God can not be lost.

I see the deceived false converts attacking this video...be a doer of the WORD

Please link the full documentary, it's excellent! Thank you for making this.

This video is pretty funny seeing that Jesus says in John 6:47, Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believes on Me HATH everlasting life. Why are we looking into our church ‘fathers’ beliefs when we have the Word of God? We are told to be as the Bereans and search the Scriptures ‘Acts 17:11 for ourselves. The Gospel is read in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

True believers recognize their salvation as eternal.

Please consider these Verses John 15:16, Romans 8:28-30; John 6:44; Ephesians 1:5; Acts 7:51; Ephesians 1:11-13 and Eph. 2:8-10; John 1:13; John 12:32 Deuteronomy 30: 11-20 Romans 10:17, Ephesians 2:1 Romans 9:17 Romans 5:8 Romans 6:23.

Good video. Hoping for more.

Excellent video! Reading the comments just shows how much indoctrination people hold on to new teachings rather than the overwhelming truth that the apostles did not give the interpretation of the verse in isolation the to rest of the scriptures. God predict this in the scriptures that lawlessness and freedom to sin would be the apostasy of the last days.

Chris, I’m glad to see you making content again. I could listen to you read the phone book.

Calvin also believed in "evanescent grace" which is the idea that one can accept the truth of the Gospel and show all outward signs but later fall away and be lost. He invented that idea because that is what he (and everyone else) observed. Of course this brings us back to the realization that you can't know if you're "elect" until after you die. Not a very practical doctrine, is it? You might as well believe that you can fall away and not be glorified in the end.

I didn't know John 10:28 was a Gnostic heresy

You quoted many men, but not scripture. I would like it if you contacted Standing For Truth and scheduled a debate. Let the truth come out in discussion.

Fascinating

At the end when I heard, "Vast majority of Christians don't believe in OSAS" I was like, that lines up with the bible. The minority always has the truth before God comes on the scene. Never the majority

Hey. Believer here. Just want you to know ⏳⌛

With respect, this entire documentary series creates some pretty extreme strawman fallacies about Christians who believe in "eternal life." It's also ironic, because they're saying we support gnosticism (we don't), yet they themselves are more gnostic by definition than we are. They also seem to love to fixate on 'church fathers' for some reason. No one needs to ever study Iraeneus or Augustine. It sounds like their gripe is with these church fathers, not with Christians who believe in the Biblical phrase "eternal life."

NO ONE WAS EVER SAVED BY WORKS. God has always brought his people through. God always finnished the work that he started, in a person's life. O s a s, has always been the truth.

If I could lose my salvation, then my salvation is contingent on me. Therefore, Mans sin can thwart the power of the cross.

Why does man look to the eatly church leaders for doctrine, instead of scripture? What is there about "traditions of men" that is so damn persuasive to so many? Why do people glory in their biblical ignorance?

The book "The Myth of Pelagianism" puts forth the theory that Augstine invented Pelagianism as something to compare his own novel teachings to. In his accusations of Pelagius (who didn't hold to his invented Pelagianism) the focus was on this mythical heresy on not on Augistine's own views. So he hoped, it seems, that his own views would be uncritically accepted by the Church without having to be subjected to the critical scrutiny of a Council. Apparently, as the video points out, since he wrote in Latin, it seems some of his theories collected dust for over 1000 years before Calvin imbibed them.

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Free. Gift. Free gift. Anybody ever give you conditions at your birthday or Christmas? "You better commit to this or that or I'm taking away your presents!" Those would not be free gifts. Believe in what Christ did on the cross. Not something he 'can do', but something he did do. Finished. He "put away sin" and when you believe who He is and what He did, you receive the FREE GIFT of Justification. Paul constantly talks of obedience in relation to our FREEDOM in Christ, as opposed to merit. I'll take Faith, Hope, and Charity over the fear, guilt and pride of religion. 2 Corinthians 5 means what it says. Christ did the all work, clearing the way for justification by faith alone. UNCONDITIONAL. FREE. GIFT. If you can lose it, it ain't free...

If I'm saved based on my commitment to Christ that would be one thing, but I am saved because of Christ's commitment to me-which is another thing altogether.

Yeah Augustine didn't believe in once saved always saved either. That's vile slander frankly.

This misunderstanding of St. Augustine is tragic. No serious Roman Catholic either believes in OSvdASvd, nor do we interpret Augustine as saying so. We hold that he meant all Good things from first from God ~* We believe that the thing we’re being from by Our Lord Jesus is death .. one has to live, first-

Once saved always saved is not a doctrine started by anyone except God, the Father. He loved us so much that He gave His only begotten Son so we could have ETERNAL LIFE!

James 2:24 debunks the entire foundation of the reformation and Saint Ignatius of Antioch verbatim along with Saint Iranaeus (spelled wrong, I'm unfortunately still protestant) confirm the Catholic (orthodoxy) is the only legitimate church

I just stumbled on to your video. Are you a former Jw? I am. I have been born again in 1983. I have a deep respect for Godly men and sound teaching. One of many pro supports scriptures of eternal security is that we receive eternal life now not when we go to heaven it is a present possession, that is it is a present reality. The emphasis is a life of obedience and fruitfulness, If I understand the doctrine of Justification by faith, we are not guilty because of our trust in the finished work of Christ. Therefore having been Justified by faith we have peace with God. Being Justified is an act of God Soley due to the finished work of Christ. Thus how can one undo what God alone did by bringing one in a state of justification? Eph. 1 :13,14."we have been sealed unto the day of redemption" given a pledge the Holy Spirit If one is Truly Born Again can he be unborn? " If one has been made a new creation, can one undo the miracle work of Christ through the new birth? If a true believer has been crucified with Him , buried with Him , raised with Him and is seated presently at the right hand with Him how can we undo those co positions that occurred when we were united with Him 2000 yrs. ago. Rm 8:1 "No condemnation now etc." Isn't the real issue whether or not on has been truly Born o God? Born again? Born of the Spirit adopted into the family of God. Thoughts.r

This documentary aims to make one believe that one cannot live with the assurance that he is once saved so he is always saved. Rather this documentary takes away this assurance of salvation and focusses on working out this salvation on daily basis. However the examples sought to be given of the early faithful disciples or apostles etc to support the case that once save is always saved was not their belief, are not convincingly presented in this documentary. One has to understand that these early disciples and apostles did not have the canonized book called Bible in their hands to quote or support this belief. The only holy text they had were Torah (first five books of Old Testament) or some fragments of the writings of the prophets who came before Jesus. Moreover, these texts and writing were not even easily accessible to all, and could hardly throw any light on 'once saved, always saved' or 'once saved, not always saved' thought, as this would have been pretty fresh idea after the death and resurrection of Jesus to these disciples and apostles. Now whether we talk about agnostics, stoics, heretics, disciples with different types of pagan backgrounds as against disciples from Jewish background, or Gospels and Paul's letters or letters by others compiled in the form of New Testaments after the said writing s were generally accepted as New Testament books in 200 to 300 years from the from the birth of Jesus, the fact remains that the presence of different point of views are based on ones own understanding of the concept of salvation. Salvation is a matter of faith in Jesus' own sacrifice on cross which definitely came to be not because did something good but due to prevalence of corruption. Yes, faith in Jesus' ultimate sacrifice does expect one to live a life without corruption, however the corruption will take away the salvation that is the result of Jesus' sacrifice is unpalatable. This kind of thought would show that it the corruption is more powerful to nullify Jesus' sacrifice, whereas one needs to understand that it is Jesus' sacrifice that triumphs over all corruption. Otherwise, as @Bob.55 has commented "Loss of salvation doctrine makes an absolute fool out of the Almighty." So, should be just keep living in corruption after we put our faith in Jesus? Of course not. Then, should we live a very cautious life, like walking on eggshells and making no noise? Of course not. Then, the question arise how should we live? My answer. Stop watching stupid videos like this one. Live a life where you do not consciously fall into corruption, and even if there is an unintentional fall, just get up and move on without pondering over much, because Jesus is encouraging you, cheering for you without large number of witnesses.

Dr. Ben Witherington III: "There wasn't some kind of air-tight guarantee of salvation, regardless of your BELIEF or behavior." Jesus: "MOST ASSUREDLY, I say to you, he who BELIEVES in Me has EVERLASTING LIFE," John 6:47, and "shall NEVER DIE." John 11:26. There's your air-tight guarantee from the guarantor Himself.

Isn't this the same video as the first one loaded?

I will believe Jesus Christ not a bunch of men. Jesus says if you believe in your heart you will be saved. Thank you Jesus Christ

John 3:16. John 6:28-29. Works of God. John 6:40. Will of God.

This is a “straw man” argument because the real argument isn’t about someone who got saved and then begins to go around murdering Christians, worshiping Satan, cannibalizing, etc., but about someone getting saved and then smoking a cigarette, drinking a beer, having an affair, etc.. Someone who gets saved according to scripture has been born again, given a new heart and is indwelled by the Holy Spirit who convicts them of sin while their unsaved neighbor who’s never been saved is fine with all of that.

2 Chronicles 15:2 The Lord is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you. John 15: 1-7 We must abide in him but when we stop abiding in him He will cast forth branches. God says the same thing about putting our faith in Him and not man. Jesus wouldn't agree with OSAS if a person who's living in willfully sinning like adultery that Jesus it's ok because you are saved now. Christ would say repent of living in that sin and draw closer to me. We (humans) aren't perfect but we should try to live better for him than we are.

Irenaus should be called Erroneous.

Anybody that says that calvinists don't believe in "free will" should in no way be teaching on the topic. It's the definition of "free will" that matters, there's not just one and the biblical definition of it is the one that Paul and Jesus taught which is aka "calvinistic". Don't believe me? Pharisees are recorded by Josephus as having been "determinists". Paul was a pharisee and he wrote that way. Go look it up. Also Luther and Edwards wrote extensively on the topic and they are intellectually challenging to get through. In no way could you hand wave what they shared in a sentence or two. If you're not going to put in the work to truly understand (which applies to 99.9% people) then don't bother, just keep your eyes on Christ and move on. However, you do need to be aware of poor teachers ^^^.

John 14:16 KJV "And I will pray the FATHER, and HE shall give you ANOTHER COMFORTER, that HE may abide with you FOREVER" (The Holy Spirit indwells a true believer FOREVER giving immediate, everlasting, and eternal salvation.) Romans 8:9 KJV ".............Now if any man have not the SPIRIT of CHRIST, he is none of HIS. 11 "But if the SPIRIT of HIM that raised up JESUS from the dead dwell in you, HE that raised up CHRIST from the dead shall also quicken (make alive) your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT that dwells in you." 1 John 4:13 KJV "Hereby we know that we dwell in HIM, and HE in us, because HE has given us of HIS SPIRIT." (assured eternal immediate salvation) 2 Corinthians 5:8 KJV "we are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." GOD does all the above. The RCC, popes, priests, sacramental works, masses, and so forth do NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Watch WHAT LOVE IS THIS DAVE HUNT BOOK TOO

The love of an almighty creator would be unconditional and eternal. Christian love is humanistic shallow, carnal and religious love.

This entire documentary is a joke. They really are conflating calvinism with OSAS lmao

I'll let the Bible interpret the Bible. By god's grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ EVERLASTING bloodshed atonement alone. Sealing us with the Holy Spirit for eternity. The Greek word "Metanoia" used for repent means "change of mind" not stop sinning. God REPENTED of destroying Nineveh. We have done NOTHING to earn, deserve or maintain our own salvation. Repentance of sins is profitable to yourself & your fellow man (and pleases the Lord) but it will not save you. John 6:40 ESV "For this is THE WILL OF MY FATHER, that everyone who looks on the Son and BELIEVES IN HIM should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Okay, some of y’all are too young to have heard that before. In other words, how many sins does it take to earn your place in hell? The answer is, “One.” How many sins did Jesus die for? “Alllll” as in “Everrrry” which includes Past, Present and Future Sins. Is it possible for an imperfect sinful creature to live their entire life and not sin once? Is it possible for a person to go out in a storm without a raincoat and not get wet? It’s not even possible to be in a storm with a raincoat and stay completely dry. We are imperfect sinful creatures in desperate need of a perfect sinless God. Jesus is our raincoat.

A little humility by both sides is probably in order, because the debate between freedom and determinism goes all the way back to the ice age, it did not start with Augustine's later writings. Even Augustine is bi-polar on the issue (early writings vs later writings). I like the consensus view that faith leads to faithfulness, and you don't want to stop being faithful because you will go down the wrong road and end up in a place of regret. Regret is its own form of hell. For the record, nobody, not Wesley, or Luther, not Calvin, not Augustine, not Jesus Peter or Paul, ever wrote or said "just believe, then don't worry about it, you're in." There are two ways (Psalm 1, the gospels, the epistles, the Didache, the law, the prophets). You either keep the faith or you don't.

I never met a Calvinist who concluded he was of the damned. Funny, innit?

I thought Calvinists believed in perseverance of the Saints as eph. 1:6 6And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ . Seems to me like if you want to know what Calvinists actually believe, you should go to an actual Calvinist and ask him or her, instead of misrepresenting your fellow believer.

John 15:6 [6]👉If👈 a man 👉abide not👈 in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. KJV 2 John 1:9 [9]👉Whosoever👈 transgresseth, 👉and abideth not👈 in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. KJV

No offense but this is an intellectually and biblically unsustainable position. I'll take Jesus the Christ at his word and let Calvin explain it to Him. John 10:28, John 3:16, Eph 2:8-10

This is works based salvation. Without once saved always saved we would never know if we are truly saved. Jesus said his burden is light and his yoke easy. That our sins our forgotten and that NOTHING can snatch out out of his hand. We are a gift to Jesus by the father and that gift will not be taken away. When Jesus died and was resurrected, all of our sins were in the future. He died "Once for all". And once we call I the name of the Lord and put our trust and faith in Jesus, we are saved. Would you save someone and then throw them back into the fire? Nope. And God is "faithful even when we are faithless". We can rest in our salvation. Amen.

I have no desire to be "saved". I never believed in any man made gods. A 75 year old atheist supporting the Laws of Thermodynamics.

I thought Luther wrote a little ditty called "The Servitude of the Will".

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This is the most snakiest thing ive seen from Satan so far 😂 there are overwhelming verses that clearly state you are secured in Jesus Christ if you have truly believed on him! ETERNAL LIFE is ETERNAL LIFE.. The trouble is that, verses that seem to show someone losing their salvation, are tooken out of context and read as if they are for Christians.. People need to "Rightly divide the word of truth" 2 Timothy 2:15 so you then realize, "though all scripture can be FOR us, not all scripture is written TO us" Christians are not isreal nor spiritual isreal, we are the bride of Christ!

That's a lot of quotes from men, but not from Scripture.

Calvinism is witchcraft.

I love how these guys go out of their way quote 1 John but ignore 1 John: "Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us."

Totally dishonest. All throughout history the church had various views. But the Bible clearly teaches once saved, always saved

THIS is 💯 unbiblical garbage!!! The Bible is full of scripture that we're SEALED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.. And NO ONE ONE and NOTHING can separate us from God! These arguments are all baseless arguments, without scripture!

Jesus will not lose one of his sheep. This doctrine of losing salvation is what you get when free will runs wild.

Once truly saved, always saved. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. What a King seals cannot be unsealed. Esther 8:8. God cannot deny Himself and His Word. Romans 8:38-39 King James Version 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

People who think this way really reveals the faith they have in Christ. There's a pride issue in all this. The devil got you guys to stop looking at what Christ did and has you guys looking in the mirror.

OSAS is the only thing that is scriptural. Sorcerers go in the pit and so do those who follow them. Don’t let these demons in.

The worse documentary on the planet, Thanks