The Hitbox Revolution is coming to Fighting Games

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So we are talking about Hitbox and Hitbox style controllers(leverless controllers) and how they are coming to slowly dominate fighting games. For good reason as well as there is actual advantages, and for those of us getting older, they are much easier on the hands and wrists. The base Hitbox controller set the standard, but now many other controllers are coming for the throne and I figured I would showcase them!
Learn more about the Hitbox, the standard of this style of controller here: www.hitboxarcade.com/
Hitbox works on: PS4, PS4 games on PS5, PC
Learn more about the Furin FRS, the fully customizable leverless controller here: furinarcade.co.uk/
Furin FRS works on(depending on board you choose): PS3, PS4, PS5, PC, Switch, Wii U, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Series S/X, NEOGEO mini, Playstation classic
Learn more about the Victrix FS 12, the premium high end leverless controller here: pdp.com/en-ca/products/victri...
Victrix works on: PS4, PS5, PC
0:00 - Intro
2:00 - Hitbox, SOCD, Tricks, & more
9:48 - Furin FRS, the customizable controller
14:12 - Victrix FS-12, the premium controller
16:36 - Leverless controller revolution
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@rooflemonger Год назад

So yeah with the coming of the next generation of Fighters in stuff like SF6, Tekken 8 and all that, new games drive new controller sales, especially after such said controllers are becoming more and more visible in high level tournaments and general play and thats why we are talking about them today! I guess to note this is in no way a "sponsored" vid, I paid for each controller featured with my own money thank you very much lol, just showing you the options out there, so watch the vid and let me know what ya think!

@amrishpatel3501 Год назад

I'm going to build my own, since I want more control over customizing my first custom build all button controller. Since the pre-made ones doesn't seem to have that much flexibility. Though prove me wrong. :)

@matthewsmith1779 Год назад

How does grapplers work on Hitbox?

@rooflemonger Год назад

@@matthewsmith1779 same as you would expect, but (to me anyways) the 720 motion is quite difficult.

@newtypehuman Год назад

Does The victrix work on ps5 ?

@CaptainYesz 11 месяцев назад

Fightbox B1 diy version is coming in the mail. Jlf sanwa user since 2017 Time to get on the train!

@rooflemonger Год назад

I have quite the growing collection of leverless controllers now and I do wanna say specifically for the Furin FRS, not only is the form factor good/layout/customization options fantastic, before making this video I reached out to a bunch of the leverless style controller makers with some questions, and frankly I got straight up up ignored by everyone except for the gentleman behind the Furin FRS, which is the exact reason I wound up buying that controller. Dudes a good guy who makes a quality product.

@jimboslice2959 Год назад

Thanks for your awesome review on this I'll definitely be trying to reach out to this guy because I'm highly interested in making the switch over

@dr.hasdan Год назад

Just to note, the Evo champ of ggst used a pad same with the runner up. And idom who came second in sfv used a pad but kowano the sfv champ used a box.

@Hiyooma Год назад

also to note idom almost clean swept him but fell apart at the reset. Pad is close to hitbox in terms of tierlist people go off of.

@2gunzup07 3 месяца назад

@Hiyooma yea stick is worst then both said nobody ever 🤡

@CheddarGetter Год назад

Nothing is more specialty, and satisfying, than building your own fighting game controller.

@Squigglys Год назад

Been playing Hitbox for like 2 years, it's so nice feeling.

@Neoxon619 Год назад

There really need to be more button boxes that are compatible with PS5.

@ShinOkamiVT Год назад

Brook released a upgrade chip for their fighting boards to allow it comparability with ps5

@blackfrieza1912 Год назад

Unrelated but first thing first rip to the legendary Kevin Conroy aka the Batman 😔

@rooflemonger Год назад

its unfortunate for sure, he's always the voice of batman to me

@axeoseilez3207 Год назад

Damn right a legend has fallen

@Neoxon619 Год назад

Cancer has taken way too many legends. May Kevin rest in peace.

@cylondorado4582 Год назад

This is the first I’ve heard of that, bummer.

@XmortoxX1990 Год назад

That's a big loss, and only 66 years old. May he rest in peace

@buster_wolf Год назад

great video 👍 i don't know if i'm ready to make the change to leverless from normal arcade sticks just yet but i am a little more interested now.

@Tobithecomic Год назад

I just hope Arcade Sticks dont dissappear. I played fighting games with all 3 main options and stick is by far my favorite one. There is just nothing that compares to the feel of the stick for me

@jonwhitis988 Год назад

Pause. Jk Man.

@arturodecima4955 Год назад

That’s what she said !

@daggercatz7297 Год назад

Yeah I'm thinking the same. Sticks are just so fun

@hermontarmand2404 Год назад

No it won't. It evolve to be the cross-up :D

@mateusmachadomartinsjunior4309 Год назад

They definitely won't be as mainstream (specially bcs of the price) now a days casual players mainly play on pad or keyboard,

@TiensFatNutz Год назад

Ordered one last month, comes in this week. Im so excited!

@remuvs 11 месяцев назад

The directional precision is my top feature of leverless. My inputs became 10x cleaner after picking up leverless from pad.

@ndshreddermn Год назад

Nice explanation, I might get one for playing Zato. It would be cool to see a smash box break down as well. Keep up the good work ✌️

@Ratel3000 11 месяцев назад

My Hitbox works on the PS5 because since this video was released and I have a Brook Universal Fighting Board, I also installed the UFB-UP5 daughter board which forces full PS5 compatibility for the Brook Universal Fighting Board, and the Brook PS4 + Audio PCB. Also, there was a recent release of the Brook Wingman FGC which causes most WIRED controllers and arcade sticks to work with the PlayStation 5. Very soon [if it hasn't happened already...,] Brook will be releasing the Brook Universal Fighting Board Fusion, which is PlayStation 5 compatible for fighting games.

@ShadowBlade79 Год назад

You've been itching to talk about that Furin, haven't you? Lol, I don't blame you. Looks amazing! I use an Eternal Rival S-Rank leverless myself. It's light, form factor is simple but clean, and I have access to all my buttons right there on the face, both attack and aux buttons. Suits me just fine.

@cylondorado4582 Год назад

Thanks for the info, I’ve been pondering trying to get one, but I’ve been putting it off since I could also use a new TV.

@rooflemonger Год назад

get both imo

@HAWGT Год назад

me playing with a keyboard since 2018 for dbfz (then mechanical in 2019)

@1000Tomatoes Год назад

Fairly certain you can do SOCD on a keyboard. It was working when I was playing the Xrd rollback beta on keyboard.

@nataliemason3866 Год назад

I've had my hitbox since 2019 and I'm completely in love with it

@greatestcait Год назад

I built my first fight stick quite a while ago (shoutouts to AFS cases, they rock). Tried a lever, but it made my wrist hurt and I was having a hell of a time adjusting to it. Then I tried a Hitbox layout and it worked perfectly for me. For me, it’s not a matter of how easy the inputs are, so much as the sheer comfort. I also like charge characters like May from Guilty Gear, and those sorts of motions just feel so natural with a stickless layout. Only problem is the half circle motions I have to use for some moves.

@Ratel3000 11 месяцев назад

How does the s SOCD cleaning work on your device? If it's L+R=N, just go back, back+down, back+down+towards, down+ towards, towards for a half circle towards. Plink the buttons down then negative edge them off in the same direction and you'll never mess it up.

@connorsutton8745 Год назад

If you're having problems with wrist and hand pain during extended play sessions, try sticking a keyboard wrist rest to your controller with double sided tape. Did wonders for me. Preferably choose one with a hard bottom for better adhesion

@rooflemonger Год назад

Well not to fully spoil a future video, but someone did make a leverless controller specifically with wrist and hand pain in mind. Its uhhhh a very crazy looking device to say the least and it deserves its own video which is why it wasnt in this one.

@connorsutton8745 Год назад

@@rooflemonger Neat! I made my controller out of hardwood and built the wrist rest in to it, so I'm looking forward to seeing what other ergonomic options are out there that I might be able to integrate.

@AdamJorgensen Год назад

@@rooflemonger are you talking about the one that hangs over the shoulders?

@rg1medion Год назад

Furin FRS user here. Was one of the first customers to pre-order one. I also have The OG Hitbox, Snackbox and Okiboard but for me the Furin is easily my best leverless controller of the bunch!

@DutchDeathGod Год назад

Necro comment but hey. I’m on the fence which hitbox style controller I should buy and I really don’t like the super tiny ones. That leaves Okiboard and Furin for me. Why do you like Furin the most? It looks amazing.

@rg1medion Год назад

@@DutchDeathGod Okibord is great but it has one problem. It is not customisable. It is locked with 24mm buttons for the directionals and 30mm for the action buttons. I prefer 24mm as the action buttons personally. Furin on the other hand you can customize it so that you can have either 24mm or 30mm as the directional/action buttons. Not only that you can customize it so the directional button can be in hitbox style or WASD style. with WASD you can keyboard buttons or 24mm, My Furin is a slanted mixbox, WASD directional keyboard buttons with 24mm action buttons plus a single 30mm up button. I hope this helps.

@DutchDeathGod Год назад

@@rg1medion it did. Tyvm for your reply!

@Ikke8 Год назад

Thx. Thats very helpful Sir😁👍

@El-Burrito Год назад

I was really interested in the Victrix FS12 but you've completely sold me on the Furin FRS tbh

@CivilChev Год назад

When BBTAG got rollback netcode I tried to practice some combos but kept noticing I would drop 236 movement. I went into practice mode and just did 236s over and over and noticed, doing the same movement, I would get a successful 236 movement roughly 3/10 of the time. I decided I would buy a fight stick and upon research I stumbled upon HitBOX. I grew up playing games on both consoles and PC so the idea of a purely digital controller intrigued me. I bought the controller, went into practice mode, and once I got used to the controls I never dropped another input. Every "miss input" was now my own mistake and that helped me get better and more consistent. Honestly it's hard going back. I'm aware of the unfair stuff it can do and purposely don't do those things, I just use it because it's the most accurate for me.

@ogamitaicho77 Год назад

Hi @rooflemonger, many thanks for this high quality video (as usual 😉) I played for a long time with arcade sticks (I started with the DreamCast one 😉) but I started to have arthresis in the wrists, especially the left one. Then I converted my Hori RAP 4 to an "hitbox" by replacing the metal panel. I also added a SOCD cleaner. Since about 3 years now I can can play again without pain. A real releaf. I mostly play at Tekken 7. I think I play better but I was able to train a lot more too so in some way it helped me but the best controller will never replace a good player imo. I don't have native PS5 fighting games yet but my Hori RAP4 worked on PS5 native beta of KOF 15 and PS5 DNF the duel Beta as well. As an "official" PS controller with touch pad it has to work like Sony mentionned in the PS blog 2 years ago (other official PS4 peripherals like wheels works too)

@ayres1009 Год назад

I just ordered my first hitbox. I never played on a stick, I’ve always been a pad player but I’m looking forward to learning it.

@TheRed5815 4 месяца назад

How has it been?

@ayres1009 4 месяца назад

@@TheRed5815 it’s been good. Difficult at first with motion inputs. The quarter circles are harder to do compared to controller and stick. The inputs are cleaner and movement is faster. There are pros and cons. I recommend it over stick though.

@epicon6 Год назад

I will forever be using joysticks because it's the most interactive and fun to use and i grew up in Japan with arcades everywhere.

@shutterant 4 месяца назад

It's so funny 'cos a year ago, I was saying to myself that I would never touch a controller like this, not when I already have a pad or an arcade stick. But since last Christmas, I did a complete U-turn because, as you said, the stick is just too physically laborious for extended sessions. I also started to find it imprecise. I now use the Razer Kitsune for fighting games exclusively. Now that I have experienced leverless first-hand, I can't go back to pad or stick. It just feels so good! I love the look of the original Hitbox and the Victrix, but they are both far too big to store in my living room.

@John-gh2lz Год назад

Bought my first arcade stick . Was stuck between the all button and arcade stick one . The way I see it the all button one is a little less fun to play on but can be more competitive in matches . Arcade stick way more fun but not as competitive vs a player with the all button layout . 🤷🏽‍♂️

@greytoeimp Год назад

Mines on the way!

@AllStarKingD Год назад

I’m thinking of getting one because it just seems extremely efficient. I always had problems with the circle regular pad since I have small hands

@brian2928 Год назад

Love your content man! I'm using a form of box with mechanical ASWD for movement with traditional arcade buttons on the right, but I've been convinced to look into a Furin lol. What's the weight like on yours? Mine is made of metal and has the memory foam, which I really like because both those things keep it in place.

@rooflemonger Год назад

the furin is very very light, there's a piece of metal inside just to help weigh it down a bit.

@funicon3689 Год назад

i started getting in fighting games recently, I started with a hitbox. im having an easier time and a lot more fun than i did with a stick tbh. it reminds me of playing piano in a way

@spacemountain5624 Год назад

I switched mainly to save my wrist from getting destroyed. If you can type on a keyboard, you can play on a leverless controller.

@volatus2354 Год назад

Controller players discovering the normal perks from keyboards be like

@volatus2354 Год назад

It does look more ergonomic, pretty and minimalistic, though. I like it.

@Gilbot9000 Год назад

I love my HitBox. It's helped my wrists and hands so much and now that I'm accustomed to it, games are starting to feel more natural. Still can't 360 on it, but I couldn't 360 on pad, either, so

@curlydolltv Год назад

are quarter circles easy? i jus bought one

@VileLasagna Год назад

A thing that's curious about the whole SOCD and input reader talk is that I find, in particular, Guilty Gear Strive's reader to be quite strict. Especially as someone who's got their first ever stick like three months ago. Still struggling with botching my Busters and Giganters because I didn't QUITE go all the way to Back. With various DPs, it's also less forgiving if you go from Forward, to Down back to full Forward, rather than down-forward. It's still fun to be on stick, quite comfortable to play. Am considering a hitbox style at some point BUT my legacy as a keyboard player is a double-edged sword there. Always had directions on the right hand and having tried out mapping similar layouts to the keyboard, I was struggling with the left so I'd want a "lefty" hitbox which is less common (thought it does look like I can reverse the top panel of one of the Acrycade models). We'll see what the future holds =3

@rooflemonger Год назад

Guilty Gear def a lot stricter on the inputs when it comes to hitbox use for sure, lots of tricks that work in SF will not work in Strive for example.

@markusvhane5087 Год назад

As far as leverless controllers I have the original Hitbox for PS4 then Hitbox Cross Up then now the Vitrix Pro FS-12 for the PS5. Love them!

@RogerBaconGaming Год назад

Been curious about trying one since I experimented a bit on keyboard when helping a friend who hadn't played any FGs before. Stuff like KOF really gets my wrist feeling SOMETHING (not pain, thankfully, but still something). And I think I'd probably enjoy it more than a stick for certain games, such as Tekken. Not sure which to get though, but a lot of the nicest looking options are rather pricey for me. So I've just been mulling over the options for a while.

@Jeffmetal42 Год назад

Another option is the ODIN mod. It replaces a lever stick with a wasd key setup. I got one and played around with it for a bit, takes a couple seconds to install and all you need is a screwdriver if that's how you open up your stick.

@ElliotEmazing Год назад

Definitely want to try out the hitbox asap. I own the victrix pro stick and was wondering how the victrix hitbox was similar to it? Or should I stay with stick maybe? I haven't decided yet

@VenaticSix15 Год назад

What I would like to see with things like these types of controllers is the inclusion of an arcade stick above the Dpad buttons, of course you would need to have a switch to turn off the Dpad buttons and switch to the arcade stick and so but that would be cool to see, there probably are some sticks out there now that are exactly like that.

@doc8125 10 месяцев назад

I think having it above would be a bad idea, you''d either have to have it unaturally high or would need to lower the movment buttons unaturally low, neither of which is good for posture. However there are stick types with fast detachable levers, so you could have your stick just below the buttons (where a stick would usually go) and just put it on when you want to use it, take it off when you don't

@ryltair Год назад

Nice review Roofle. Going to look into hitbox style controllers myself, starting with the Furin FRS :)

@tococrazy123 Год назад

The Razor Kitsune is going to be an interesting loverless fighstick. Its another official one for Playstation, but the buttons are the linear switches like the Furin FRS.

@DevilJin01 Год назад

The Hit Box craze overall is a good thing. It'll help as fighting games become more PC based, which opens up more products to create and more sponsors. The taboo part of hit boxes mostly comes from how unregulated the inputs are and fighting game developers just haven't caught up with balancing their inputs compared to standard pad or lever devices. When that all becomes more regulated it should be less of a "cheat box"

@Setteri_ Год назад

the victrix is beatiful, the purple was a nice choice 👌

@AdamantMindset Год назад

i play on pc - keyboard so i think this is similar to that but those tips were quite interesting, never really tried them

@M0n4rc 3 месяца назад

actually the most interesting thing about this is that the HITBOX style controller is not the OG default, arcades somehow cameup with the idea of a leaver for inputing movement instead of just adding 4 more buttons. IDK its just funny to think about

@user-os1fb8cm7q Год назад

I've had it for almost 9 months and i mainly play on PC Leo made easy the controller Single-handedly took me to floor 10

@bk_dub7769 Год назад

Ok, I am so glad I watched this video. I've been thinking about trying out a leverless controller, and was thinking about the Hitbox, but if it doesn't currently work with PS5 games, that's a no go for me. I love my Victrix fightstick, but with it had the noir layout, but it does have the best ergonomics. How long did it take you to get used to using leverless? That's one thing I'm curious about. Again, thanks for the vid, very informative

@rooflemonger Год назад

still getting used to it. No game I wanna grind on right now until SF6 really so taking it easy for the moment.

@Riz_ Год назад

Very intersting video Rooflemonger. So as I am an Xbox player and living in the UK I think the availibility of hitbox style controllers will be limited, but I will certainly have to look around for one. If it makes 720 easier then I am in.

@rooflemonger Год назад

Well the Furin FRS maker is based in the UK, and one of the boards it offers works on all xbox systems. So thats basically the option right there lol

@Riz_ Год назад

@@rooflemonger Blimey that is good to know, will certainly check it out and see if it is worth looking into.

@furinarcade Год назад

@@Riz_ "blimey"? Amazing brit response to that news. 😊 Let me know if you have any questions.

@rookbranwen8047 Год назад

Currently playing my fighting games(and rhythm games) on a Gamo2 k28. Keyboard style layout with 28 buttons that can be bound however I want, and built in SOCD cleaning. Unfortunately not PS5 compatible as far as I know, but I play mainly on PC anyways. I was looking for a good keyboard for rhythm games and found this instead. I liked the Idea of being able to play most of my favorite games on one controller, even though it is not optimized for most PC rhythm games. If I ever am able to go to an in person FGC event I will definitely be using this as it is probably comparable in size to a snackbox, and is definitely far more portable than my old Mayflash arcade stick.

@Busterman64 Год назад

Personally...I feel like Hitboxes are in the same lane as stick and pad...another controller option with a drawback. Pretty sure hitbox will be great with charge characters...but stuff like half or full circle or pretzel inputs will be more difficult. I don't know...some people call it a "cheatbox", but I don't see a big advantage to using hitbox over any other controller. Then again...Im a simple man who uses pad and that is already complex enough for me.

@minimonkeymasher8888 Год назад

Pretzel motions are actually super easy, alongside most half-circle motions. Only ones that are unconventional is a 862 or 842 and the like

@deffy282 Год назад

Regarding something like Potemkin kara canceling, would you say that a leverless controller would be more accurate, or at least easier than using a traditional stick?

@GatorOfWar Год назад

I'm actually interested in trying out a Hitbox. I've learned pad and stick already so that one is my next goal. As a grappler player, I think the trickiest part for me will be all the half circles and full circle motions 🤣

@GPVillegas Год назад

360 is easy to learn. 720s are a nightmare.

@jaysboredman Год назад

Look up zangief's hitbox bible. Your welcome.

@I_recommend_suicide Год назад

I've been whining like a baby for a leverless option in 30mm, I'm on the furin website now and I'm impressed. I see it's based in Leeds, I assume it ships from the UK? What was the turnaround time like? Big thanks for the heads up Roof

@rooflemonger Год назад

Well for me it had to cross the ocean to canada and was likeeeee, 2 weeks?

@I_recommend_suicide Год назад

@@rooflemonger nice, I'm sure USA customs is worse but that's still very competitive in a space where we're used to waiting months for restocks lmao

@93msimpson Год назад

I recently bought a Snackbox Micro because I've always wanted to learn the hitbox layout. I gotta say it is more comfortable when you get used to it. For anyone curious in one, the big thing is to loosen up and just let your fingers do the work. You'll have to break a lot of old habits. Don't try to rest your palms, just let your hands hover over it

@harbear9983 Год назад

Bought a hit box about a year ago and love it. But if you’re ass at the game the controller isn’t going to really change anything. A better player with a pad or stick is still going to wreck you.

@kiriljurjev Год назад

I'm probably one of many people who was searching perfect controller for fighting games. Tried the stick,regular controllers like xbox one or ps4. But ( fairly recently) discovered (and it's probably not a popular opinion) PC keyboard. I had mechanical keyboard in the past ,now I have Logitech G213 and it's great. Also works with consoles. Keyboards also great playing platform fighters. Downside to that is that you don't have much space for your hand to rest and second is all buttons are clumped up so you can hit accidentally hit unwanted button and in competetive matches is really important. Final thing is depending which keyboard you use, the button size. We have different size of hands,so it's different for everyone using different controllers. Final thoughts are use what you are comfortable using. But what comes to long sessions I noticed that I can't do the same motions easily like on arcade stick,but movement with a controller is much better (double dash). I think what comes to hitboxes-they are great, I think the main downside like with premium arcade sticks is the price,so not every casual gamer want to spend this amount of money.

@Hiyooma Год назад

I have played with pad and arcade stick for over 15+ years. I also played a game on pc called GunzTheDuel and its a constant space bar to jump type of game. I ordered a version of hitbox on ebay and It was hard to get use to but due to the comfort ability and quickness on input speed I have seen improvement fast. Levers are going to become obsolete for competitive play in the future. For a reference for what people to expect Your 75% skill potential will come quicker then you think but that last 25% will be a longer road then you hoped for. Finally can be confident enough to say holy smokes this was worth the switch. Every time I play with my buds online they call me a cheatboxer and they get bodied it's great would recommend ( if you don't might to practice something new that will make you worse at first but better at the end run)

@MaxClyde Год назад

thanks for showing a video of your hitbox demonstrating what you're talking about for FG noobs like me

@antonsimmons8519 Год назад

I'll keep to the dpads, thanks XD

@xxwallzxx4509 Год назад

For many reasons. I cannot crouch shoryuken. I get it sometimes and not all the time. But there was a shortcut to it. It is as you said. Forward, down, down forward. Just those 3. I also heard that sometimes doing the motion will come with other stuff not intended. So I wrote that down.

@NeroLordofChaos Год назад

I switched to a hitbox because I wanted to fix the fact that a lot of the time, I was adding an upward diagonal input while trying to do moves on a pad and when I tried using a stick, my shoulder got incredibly sore...and I felt WAY slower on the stick with Nu-13 in blazblue. Leverless was the best of all worlds for me. I honestly haven't looked back since I started using one.

@Cassapphic Год назад

I got into fighting games almost half a year ago now and I've been just using a standard controller and its been mostly fine I've developed muscle memory and stuff, but one thing I noticed is my thumb would often twitch just enough to move my dpad out of down back and I'd get caught by stray lows I really shouldn't be. Because of this I decided to look into getting a leverless controller, but as I'm in the UK and on a budget my options were fairly limited, I essentially found 4 options I considered reasonable. Importing a snackbox from the US and just sucking up the high shipping time and costs, ordering from furin arcade as mentioned in the video as they do normal shipping to the UK (the most expensive option I found though), building one myself but I wanted a normal case I didn't want to be building a controller out of an amazon parcel box or something and at that point the price was mostly on par with other options. And the option I went with, okiboard (similar to MPress for you americans) while it has yet to arrive, it has all I wanted from the controllers I was looking for, I will update this comment with my thoughts once it arrives.

@somniphobia4228 Год назад

how is it?

@000wolf Год назад

I like the concept of hitboxes, but my hands always cramp up when playing them. I type often and enough that I figured it wouldn't be an issue, but for whatever reason, probably something to do with how I rest my hands, I end up in pain every time. It all works out though since I can go hours playing on stick without any wrist pain whatsoever. I just dread the day when carpal tunnel finally sets in. If that ever happens, hopefully there will be some more ergonomic hitbox solutions on the market.

@MDagonic Год назад

I builded a leverless controller myself a few months ago and I must say even if I was sceptical at first, if there will be a noticable different for an ...well FG enjoyer.... I must say the different is extreme. First of all the wrist issue you stated, I can 100% confirm that - it is so much better for longer sessions. But what me got hooked on the controller was how precise the motion inputs can get with that. Yeah I understand with enough practice you can also be extremely precise with a lever or pad, BUT never on the level a hitbox style controller will be. The only thing it felt 'bad' was the fact, that some inputs can be done in a way you are not be able on the other controller types....so I can absolutely understand that some in the FGC call it a cheatbox.

@2gunzup07 3 месяца назад

What about 720s and 360s what about legacy games like cvs2 with snk style inputs? Yea cheat box is you say yea righ...

@Yakuo Год назад

TYSM ROOFLEMONGER!

@ryoandr Год назад

Hey what are the buttons on the FRS ? I have HBSF (know now as Gamer Finger), but some are starting to break (they are +10 years old!). Gamer Finger are basically unavailable, I tried Samducksa (with cherry switches) but they aren't as good imo.

@gone_f1sh1ng Год назад

Been playing with the same Xbox controller for my entire life and I was thinking of changing to hitbox so I tried with my keyboard first and it seemed weird. Do you think I should commit to the Xbox or try to change 🤔 (I mainly want it for Zato in strive)

@VenaticSix15 Год назад

You can also just use current sticks for Tekken if you go into the settings to remap 4 of the fight stick buttons to the DPAD and then you can set your stick to the left Analog stick setting and you will have two ways of executing moves. You're welcome :P (If your stick doesn't support mapping you can actually go into the accessibility setting on PS4/PS5 to change the buttons if you like)

@chanbenyamin3527 Год назад

I'm currently using hori alpha for ps5. If I were to make the switch, how long on average will I be able to play to my usual standard? High learning curve?

@fennicfox4600 Год назад

I agree with Proxi (the youtuber) He was saying for people to try keyboards out when getting to fighting games since most people have a PC and use keyboards normally. It's a bit of a learning curve but It should work similar to a hit box. And then if you like the style, you can invest in a nicer controller like a hitbox. It helped me get alot better at fighting games! (Relatively from where I started at least)

@mikeg2491 Год назад

I’ve messed around with using a keyboard setting up roms and what not when too lazy to plug-in a controller, it’s interesting I did kind of find them comfy for fighting games but never really played more than a few minutes on them. Never imagined it would turn into a thing.

@droppedcombo19 Год назад

Hey man, for your custom setup did you reach out via twitter for the art of did u do it personally? 🤔

@Polopollo75 Год назад

I use a hitbox to play dbfz, but there is a double edge sword with it's accuracy: Sometimes I input 8 then 1ms later the 6 to do a 9, but the game understands that I want to do a 8 instead. In dbfz at least, you have to input the opposite: 6 then 8 in the same milliseconds. And with the pinky it becomes hard if you don't practice a lot. A lot less intuitive to move around than a joystick for sure

@LungDrago Год назад

Are fighting game players finally discovering keyboards? Wow!

@zechariahcaraballo8765 Год назад

I use the mixbox because Im a pc gamer and really like the wasd/ arrow keys layout

@jayc0au Год назад

Hardware SOCD should be a thing in the past for modern games. All raw inputs could be managed within the game or application. So it doesn’t matter what controller you use, the game will dictate the execution with those inputs.

@howingcommando Год назад

Im coming into sf6 with a hitbox how long did it take you to get confident with it?

@geneticjen9312 Год назад

I’ve been getting really into fighters recently and playing exclusively with console controllers. I’ve already decided I’m not going to learn using traditional fighting sticks but I am really curious about these and tempted by them. Thing is, it’s a lot of money for something that might not be right for me. I’m a fast learner but I have been using controllers for 30 years so might be more difficult than I expect. Do you think I could set up PC keyboard controls to kind of emulate this to see if I could get a feel for it first? Or do you think the experience would be too different?

@geneticjen9312 Год назад

I guess a follow up question would be does anyone know what button setup on a typical keyboard would be close to this experience. Jump on space at obviously but not sure beyond that

@Pleyway Год назад

@@geneticjen9312 keyboard is basically the same yes, it works the best if you got a mechanic keyboard though, similar feel and better input than standard membrane keyboards. As for stepup yeah ASD Space for movement, and something like UIO/JKL for buttons will do fine. The major difference is obvious feel because they're not arcade switches and tons of other buttons around your main buttons.

@TheWordPlay Год назад

I've played with a keyboard to match the hitbox layout, and I think it's a good alternative! Something to consider is if your keyboard can register multiple key presses at the same time. My first keyboard could not read certain keys pressed at once, so it was a hassle to work around that until I eventually got a new keyboard. Also, not all keyboards natively have SOCD built in them, but there are workarounds online for how to fix that. As for the layout, because of my bigger hands and needing to space out my fingers this is my layout: W: left E: down F: right Space: up And I use UIOPJKL; as my action buttons. But there are a lot of different setups, with the most common using ASD+Space or WASD for movement

@Fluffledump Год назад

What are your thoughts on hitbox Vs crossup? Being in the UK it's so freaking hard to get either. I could honestly see myself building my own

@feri7mble Год назад

Yeah, buying leverless controllers in Europe is still strangely difficult.

@rooflemonger Год назад

crossup is if you want some of the hitbox power, but don't wanna give up the stick. As for being in the UK, the person who makes the Furin FRS is UK based!

@Fluffledump Год назад

@@rooflemonger that's awesome, I had no idea they were UK based! How does it feel to play with keyboard switches Vs arcade buttons?

@C3lticlord Год назад

The one I'm looking for is like keyboard arrow keys on the right and round buttons on the left

@convicsik Год назад

For me the perfect controller would be a split controller where the left hand has a dpad and the right hand has full size arcade buttons.

@iurcic Год назад

what is the difference between that hit Hitbox that has the keyboard keys (that purple one) and the other one that you said that is bigger and is better to rest ur shoulders?

@victoryang2990 5 месяцев назад

I got the Razer Kitsune cuz my left hand was hurting for 3 weeks playing on the PS5 controller. Even tho I had to learn how to play with this controller and feel like a beginner I enjoy it. Been playing almost 2 weeks and I'm getting there. Can do more combos and execute moved better but still have to get use to moving with buttons and strengthening my left ring finger.

@ghostling170 Год назад

me still waiting for the MixBox style controllers from junkfoodarcades, I know it wouldnt really happen, but I would just love it

@hickknight Год назад

So. Hotboxes are more ergonomic right? That's one of the biggest reasons I went to an arcade stick over a pad, since a few years back, I had problems with my right thumb. Will a hitbox make sure that my wrists aren't going to weep?

@InfiniteTranscendence Год назад

I had been saying this would happen back in 2011-2012. It's good to see things change and evolve over time.

@danzixx6 Год назад

I got my snackboc micro. Few weeks ago and I love it is hard. But I love it im gonna get some art for my snack box micro

@OmegaRandy6 Год назад

Would love to get a hitbox but I can't afford one at the moment, so I'll just have to continue playing on stick on the meantime I hope sticks can still be viable though despite the increasing usage of hitboxes lately.

@GetDaDrawsDawg Год назад

I was looking at getting a hitbox or one of the types for fighting games. But settled for a keyboard cause of other games including fighting. But if i didnt need a new gaming keyboard I would easily pick one of these up.

@penismightier9278 Год назад

I used to use arrow keys + asd (punches) zxc (kicks) for fighting games. Unfortunately I don't know how well that will transfer to a Hitbox since the directions and attacks will be swapped. I also had to switch to a mechanical keyboard to get around ghosting. That being said I might need to look into one of these a bit more seriously as my 6 face button controllers are starting to make my hands cramp up after a while. Getting old sucks.

@karenwest6350 Год назад

I'm 200% certain you can find a reversed layout version, albeit probably something more DIY-ish, if you look around. I think there are files for getting CNC'd aluminum (or some other material) cut to fit metal enclosures and hold sanwa switches, and you could probably just flip the thing upside down perfectly fine to get the reversed layout. I hope you find something you can use, best of luck!

@Blustride Год назад

Yeah, you might have to DIY it, but you can absolutely get mirrored hitbox layouts. I know for a fact that Eternal Rival will make a southpaw hitbox case for you, and I bet other custom case builders could as long as they’re made to order. It’s just flipping the cutting template after all. If you’re nervous about DIYing it, there are loads of resources for how to wire it up and you can get everything premade.

@rocknmetalultima Год назад

Would it be better if down and up were neutral like left and right? Not the full answer but a possible step in the right direction

@kieragard Год назад

i got a custom eternal rival. fightstick and hitbox together. it's good for everything. not ready to let my stick go completely.

@MajorlyDevilish Год назад

I understand the want to switch, but at the same time its still a learning curve, and honestly most of the shortcuts or cheats I've seen people complain about are exclusive to Street fighter V, And you can do the same or similar cheats with pad using a combo of d-pad and analog stick, granted some pads are easier than others.

@OmnipotentO Год назад

Yeah but I play for the arcade days nostalgia so I'm never moving from levers.

@noahblack5620 Год назад

I've been thinking about switching to a hit box for about two years now but it feels like I would have to relearn how to play which I am not ready for

@Midori_Hoshi Год назад

Button box is a better name than leverless controller because it better describes what the controller has, instead of what it lacks. While pad has some advantages thanks to having more buttons and better access to buttons in some ways, when it comes to pure speed for basic movement, button box is faster than pad. I can see some situations where pad might be better, but generally speaking, button box is the best. As for fightsticks, they are simply obsolete.

@Sharkenjoyer862 Год назад

I wanna see if it’s beneficial to play the next MK/Injustice on hitbox and if it is at least equal to controller, ill switch. Sf6 looks like a game i will grind extensively but I can’t justify building a hitbox (hands too big for the default layout) for one game.

@shiggymiggy6394 Год назад

Where did you get your hitbox might get one cause it's a bit easier on my hands and it won't wear out my regular old playstation controllers d pad EDIT: nevermind the furin definitely seems more interesting definitely gonna try to get one