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The Holy Blade of the Descender (Genshin Impact 4.2 Lore, Theory, and Speculation) 

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SPOILERS for the 4.2 Archon Quest, "Masquerade of the Guilty" and the World Quest "Search in the Algae Sea" (the Narzissenkreuz Finale).
The Narzissenkreuz Ordo quest was very esoteric due to abstract language and riddle-speak. Who were Mary-Ann and Lyris, and what happened to them? What was the plan of Rene and Jakob to avert the catastrophe of the World Formula? Most importantly, what is the Holy Blade of Narzissenkreuz, and how is "reason" made from soul, wish, memory, and persona?
Rene directly compares Traveler to the Holy Blade, and also makes a distinction that not all who come from beyond can be descenders... What is the implication of the similarities between Traveler, Descenders, and holy Blades, with regards to the gnosis?
And how does this go back to Kaeya and his pirate grandpa???
Credit / thanks / blame goes to Nana (@/nanbeidou7 on Twitter or X) for inciting Kaeya brainrot
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction
00:32 The Finale of the Narzissenkreuz Ordo
02:37 The Holy Blade of Narzissenkreuz
06:00 The Descender and the Gnosis
08:30 The Traveler
13:23 Closing Thoughts
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✨ The History of Narzissenkreuz: • The History of Narziss...
✨ Rene's World Formula: • The Prophecy of Fontai...
✨ Caterpillar: • The Knave, The Caterpi...
✨ The Power that was Stolen: • The Beginning and the ...
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✨ HOYO-Mix: Quo Vadis; Nymph's Tea Party; Raven Gloss of Darkness; Shade of Flowers; Marcescent Flowers; Whispers of Immensity; Towers of Afrasiab; Ancient Reverberation
✨ "Se Pone Caliente" by the U.S. Commercial Product Safety Commission (public domain)
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@jeremiahsmith916
@jeremiahsmith916 6 месяцев назад
Liking Kaeya since his first appearance just ages like fine wine every single patch.
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
kaeya enjoyers constantly winning
@dirisiri1267
@dirisiri1267 Месяц назад
Is that a pun?😂😂😂
@letsrain6933
@letsrain6933 6 дней назад
Came for his angsty sibling past, but stayed for the kaeya impact
@sheevismycity4789
@sheevismycity4789 6 месяцев назад
Still so under rated, amazing as always. Also, I love how every lore channel has their own obsession. Here it's "everything is connected to Kaya", Ashikai Is "everything is connected to deshret", and other people are "everything is honkai, or everything is paimon, or everything is moon sisters" lol
@xxvskrunkle
@xxvskrunkle 6 месяцев назад
My kind of channel ❤
@MariLaTaupe
@MariLaTaupe 6 месяцев назад
at this point we just need to proove that kaeya is linked to deshret ^^ i would say that is sexy grandpa is deshret XD
@hotshootful
@hotshootful 5 месяцев назад
@@MariLaTaupe to do that we'd have to link keaya to Candance as she is a descendant of deshret which would be interesting
@Necrochaosium
@Necrochaosium 4 месяца назад
If I had a channel my thing would be "all connected to the sinner" thankfully for the sanity of other people I dont have a channel :)
@NoName-kg4ve
@NoName-kg4ve 4 месяца назад
I have seen channels that say " everything is connected to dainslief " lol
@plingploong
@plingploong 6 месяцев назад
In the end it's always about Kaeya 😊. The lore drops have been crazy since Sumeru! Can't wait to see what else we find out about descenders and dragons in Natlan and beyond.
@di8085
@di8085 6 месяцев назад
i think every characters from Genshin Manga is gonna be so important for future plot, and the reason why Venti story quest part 2 until now isn't even out
@Zombina638
@Zombina638 6 месяцев назад
No it’s not😊
@PopcornSimp
@PopcornSimp 6 месяцев назад
​@@Zombina638You sound so salty lol
@Zombina638
@Zombina638 6 месяцев назад
@@PopcornSimp you sound so idiotic ur already losing the battle by being offended 💀
@MKMP3
@MKMP3 5 месяцев назад
@@di8085mondstadt has way many more secrets than it’s leading onto be as a “starting region”
@Dogbert24
@Dogbert24 6 месяцев назад
I didn't realize the weapon description of the Narzissenkreuz sword was just a continuation of the dull blade. I think it would be super cool if we continue to refine this sword in future regions somehow, with it eventually turning into the sword we had in the opening cutscene. That would be a nice way to use the extra oculus you get in each region actually, considering you would necessarily have to do pretty much all the major world quests as a prerequisite to have access to all of them in the first place.
@otakulibrarygirl
@otakulibrarygirl 6 месяцев назад
Am I the only one that thought the Holy Blade was the Traveler’s original sword when it was first revealed in this quest? Now I’m starting to think the original sword was a physical manifestation of Traveler’s will….
@rdpsysium7340
@rdpsysium7340 2 месяца назад
I LOVE this idea. I've been thinking the extra oculi are just nice mementos or hoyo's way of cutting players some slack, but now that I think about it, if players are going out of their way to collect all the oculi anyway, what's one more? And it would be so cool to utilize them like how you suggested. Fingers crossed it's that or something equivalently interesting!
@strgz5329
@strgz5329 6 месяцев назад
also now that the traveler is being compared to a blade, or specifically a weapon, the story about the sentient halberds takes on new meaning
@harmonialarts
@harmonialarts 6 месяцев назад
*has a section about the traveler *proceeds to make it about Kaeya
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
oops !!!
@SuperQuaqua1
@SuperQuaqua1 5 месяцев назад
The whole Holy blade and descender's will thing made me think back to our final fight against Ei. Ei: "You're looking for a chance to shake my "will"... aren't you?" Traveler: " I'm not here to debate your Ideals. I'm here to demolish them." and then traveler using the will of the vision bearers and even Teppei to defeat her.
@LLawlietJeNemLenEtRin
@LLawlietJeNemLenEtRin 6 месяцев назад
With the parallels drawn between Kaeya's quest and this, with Lisa's quest giving us Pale Princess and the Six Pygmies and what happened in the newest AQ.. The potential connections between content from 3 years ago and now are being more and more serious.
@vernicimo
@vernicimo 6 месяцев назад
Yes the starter team, Kaeya: descend from khaenri'ah and has relations with Abyss order Lisa: Possible member of the hexenzirkel Amber: 🐰
@twit3537
@twit3537 6 месяцев назад
Actually the Pale Princess and the Six Pygmies is very relevant with this whole thing. I read the future books that were leaked and it pretty much explains who the third descender is, why the gnoses are cursed, the motive for the Cryo Archon to get the Gnosis back (imo to revive the 3rd descender by gathering his 'body', hence why the fatui didn't seem too upset that the dragon authority was given to Neuvilette once again) and why mondstat is potentially the end game (looping back to the beginning once again).
@ayanbarnwal2905
@ayanbarnwal2905 6 месяцев назад
I believe Lisa explicitly states that she's neither part of the hexenzirkel nor does she want to be in her "About Mona" voice line.
@BlueDaisy33
@BlueDaisy33 6 месяцев назад
All lore eventually leads to Kaeya, Childe, Venti or Deshret as they should Great video! It makes a ton of sense and gives us a reason why our Twin is different
@dinozero2
@dinozero2 5 месяцев назад
I love how they give subtle foreshadowing in Narzissenkreuz Ordo quest with Paimon eating Chicken-Mushroom Skewer. Which is Kaeya specialty dish.
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 5 месяцев назад
this is kaeya impact
@Dogbert24
@Dogbert24 6 месяцев назад
It might be that the 'treasured sword' of Kaeya's grandfather (founder of abyss order) is the abyss sibling and not the traveler, but then it wouldn't make sense that they aren't considered a descender. Nahida did say however that the Irminsul records on our sibling become 'fuzzy' and she doesn't know what happened at the end of their journey, and Kaeya mentions his grandfather later hid his treasured sword away to keep greedy pirates from finding it.
@lillano6524
@lillano6524 6 месяцев назад
Let's not forget that Kaeya literally broke the 4th wall in Diluc's quest, saying that it was his favorite story so far
@georgebeard2337
@georgebeard2337 6 месяцев назад
now that the archon quest is complete you guys know all too well who's going to show up next for another humongous lore bomb. Our friendly masked wearing Khaenri'ahn friend of course!
@userAsiral
@userAsiral 6 месяцев назад
Surtalogi, Skirk's master is literally named after a sword. A sword that brings Ragnarok
@jeremiahsmith916
@jeremiahsmith916 6 месяцев назад
This reminded me of Childe’s peculiar wording, somewhere in his stories or voicelines it says he’s not opposed to be seen as a weapon rather than a person, and in fact considers this a praise. I don’t think Childe himself is connected to the actual personified holy weapons, but he might have heard the discourse from Skirk and adopted it his way.
@userAsiral
@userAsiral 6 месяцев назад
@@jeremiahsmith916 Dainsleif is also named after a sword... Not to mention his title "The Twilight Sword"
@vermillionorange
@vermillionorange 6 месяцев назад
So basically traveler is the "shattered halberd" and is now in the middle of reclaiming their pieces??? Ahhh!!!! I'm gonna go watch again your video about that. Somehow, somewhere, some of your previous speculations make sense!!! Btw, thank you very much for this. I live for your videos. Keep it going! Deluluvelt ftw 🥰 ETA: and yes, it always goes back to our man Kaeya lmao
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
ah… haha yeah… I’m going to have to heavily update my LotSH halberd thoughts. The good news is that a lot of it makes a LOT of sense, and it’s actually way cooler than I imagined! The bad news is that there’s one particular thing that doesn’t make sense to me at all. Keep an eye out for it in the next few weeks 🤪
@Fran_5
@Fran_5 6 месяцев назад
Kinda funny how Kaeya went from having no signature weapon into having 2. The new Wolf-fang absolutely matches Kaeya in gameplay and aethetic as well as giving him a mirror of sorts to Dilluc and the Wolf's Gravestone.
@GhostedbyHer
@GhostedbyHer 6 месяцев назад
I really want traveler to use this sword in cutscenes from now on
@thejamesonthestreet
@thejamesonthestreet 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, but I doubt it since it comes from an optional World Quest
@TheJH1015
@TheJH1015 6 месяцев назад
@@thejamesonthestreetinb4 at the end of the story, you can't progress *unless* you finish this world quest and obtain the Holy Blade xD
@slock5732
@slock5732 6 месяцев назад
He definitely says a lot of stuff that lines up, and he's clearly involved, but I've always gotten the impression that the core of this knowledge is from dormant stuff locked away in him. In other words, I don't think he's playing as 'active' of a role as you convey at the end. Whatever he 'knows', almost doesn't feel fully accessible by him. Which would make a lot of sense, seeing as we've had a quest relate to characters who lock knowledge away from themselves (Scarra) - and more recently, characters playing a role with a hidden agenda unknown to them (Furina). Maybe I'm just latching onto the vibes of previous story beats, but Kaeya fits the bill pretty well for both. If he does appear in the next interlude, then I would feel even more confident in this. On a side note, I like the theory that the patch before 4.0 was attempting to convey the core components of the act to come. Not only did our time in Botteland convey Focalors very well, but the characters who tag along (and got outfits) COULD very well also be chosen to convey similar story significance. Klee's connection to Hexenzirkel and dressing up as a witch could relate to the major witch shenanigans finally showing up in the main quest. And Kaeya tagging along to play act as well feels like it has similar room to foreshadow his involvement. Of course, if Kaeya isn't mentioned in the next interlude, then a lot of this goes out the window. But when isn't he relevant?!
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
re: how much Kaeya knows. I actually had a section on that drawing a comparison to Futuna in that he may also be in the dark about a lot of things. Or maybe a lil like Kafka from HSR, how Elio tells her just what she needs to know? Anyway yeah if we don’t get more Kaeya appearances in the future I’ll CRYYYY
@emberthecatgirl8796
@emberthecatgirl8796 6 месяцев назад
If I had a penny for every time that Hoyoverse had a blonde from beyond a world collect 7 gems to complete a sword that can cut the world itself, I’d have two pennies. It’s not much, but it’s wierd that it happened twice.
@beashemmad.sayson545
@beashemmad.sayson545 6 месяцев назад
Who’s the first?
@Whole-U
@Whole-U 6 месяцев назад
First the Duck, now the Traveller.
@emberthecatgirl8796
@emberthecatgirl8796 6 месяцев назад
@@beashemmad.sayson545 Bianka Ataegina, also called “Durandal” after the sword she restored.
@Rexhunterj
@Rexhunterj 6 месяцев назад
Bianka from Honkai Impact 3rd? (She's actually Kiana Kaslana that one)
@spark9_
@spark9_ 6 месяцев назад
I dont think your theory about Kaeya being in Mondstadt for prophetic reasons is too far off the trail. Some things do add up.
@someguywhoenjoymusic1961
@someguywhoenjoymusic1961 6 месяцев назад
Traveler could be both 'will' and 'sword' that will surpass tevyat. Miko states that Traveler ambition is not finding his own sister rather something else.. and upon our journey we slowly finding our own meaning about our journey in tevyat and it's secret hidden where the god does not gaze. Oh also when we fighting Ei.. ( only strongest *WILL* could surpass eternity's ) And Rene calculation is fail because the Arrival of fourth descender 'us' because we will change the outcome of fate on tevyat with our 'will' as journey begins.. Oh and quick lore about skirk master Surtalogi names in English is ( twilight sword ) do you who has that title's??? Yup you're correct Dainsleif
@ajergely6230
@ajergely6230 6 месяцев назад
Wait, is Surtalogi called twilight sword in game ? Or is that from one of the Eddas ?
@someguywhoenjoymusic1961
@someguywhoenjoymusic1961 6 месяцев назад
@@ajergely6230 you could go do research on Google's surtalogi in English name is twilight sword
@BlueDaisy33
@BlueDaisy33 6 месяцев назад
⁠@@ajergely6230it was called Twilight Sword before it became Surtalogi
@vanessachowjiaying4423
@vanessachowjiaying4423 6 месяцев назад
Considering Genshin's initial title is Honkai Impact 4, it's fitting for the traveller, who's the 4th descender to bring change to the world. Like how it's parent story Honkai, in which the 3rd Honkai eruption brought Kiana, Mei and Bronya together, the 3rd descender brought negative change through the gnosis system.
@emberthecatgirl8796
@emberthecatgirl8796 6 месяцев назад
@@vanessachowjiaying4423Honkai also had a blonde outworlder collect 7 gems to cut a world.
@yowana9423
@yowana9423 6 месяцев назад
all roads lead to kaeya
@YuBaka69
@YuBaka69 6 месяцев назад
I know this is mostly a video about Kaeya, but getting back on the Narzissenkreuz track, after the finale, the idea of making a fairytale out of all this is starting to sound all the more fitting))
@kotarouinugami1745
@kotarouinugami1745 6 месяцев назад
Gotta make fairytales out of everything significant, to prevent the secrets uncovered from being irminsuled.
@TheJH1015
@TheJH1015 6 месяцев назад
Nahida and Andersdottir (I think? iirc she was the fairy tale writer from the Hexenzirkel right?) approve
@Indian_gae_boii
@Indian_gae_boii 6 месяцев назад
Im so so glad you made the video, so much of the quest lines and notes we find talk in metaphors and double meanings that it got confusing to me, im also highly highly dissapointed that the tower of ipsissmus dissapears underwater forever because it was such an iconic part of fonTaine scenery,
@epiphany__
@epiphany__ 6 месяцев назад
trueeee, i dont mind the huge lore bomb and metaphors in the quest lines because i want to watch videos like these anyways, but i really want to bring back the tower of ipsissmus, such an iconic landmark 😥
@eboshisdescendant8697
@eboshisdescendant8697 6 месяцев назад
I think it would be cool if the dull blade starts glowing and changed its form to Travelers' original sword in the final battle or something, just like a normal wooden sword turned into the Holy Blade. Like, the original sword could be the manifested form of Traveler's willpower. What if their Sibling already reclaimed the original sword because they have completed their journey and turned their experiences into the sword?
@rbpoke3604
@rbpoke3604 5 месяцев назад
converging everyone's consciousness into one reminds me off honkai impact 3rd's project stigma for humanity to survive the final herscher before the next samsara cycle, like genshins samsara cycles
@KrackenSyndrome
@KrackenSyndrome 6 месяцев назад
Listening to the pirate grandpapa part made me instantly connect the Pierro is Kaeya's grandfather theory (via ashikai) then go: oooh, so Pierro trying to make abyss twin into a holy blade, but maybe didn't succeed, but the aby twin's journey mirrors ouw own in a samasara. AND THEN i just had the thought that the holy blade has a light AND a dark side. So then aby twin is the ousia half, and now traveler is currently forging the pnuma half and then they'll combine like DBZ fusion style?! But, Pierro is likely ALLOWING Traveler to roam free is for this reason and going through GREAT PAINS to not get in traveler's way, but be on amiable terms with traveler in the end as a BACKUP plan in case the gnosis collector's items dont pan out... Or maybe they need both plans in concert? Cause the Harth sibs make it blindingly obvious, and uncomfortably clear that they are trying to be on our good side. And dottore, who was aware of our attachment to nahida, didnt attack her like signora did to venti, but instead negotiated with her so we dont hunt him down to the ends of the earth..... Hmm, i have thought, clearly.
@hania264
@hania264 6 месяцев назад
I was super excited for the narssizenkruz finale especially with tidbits of it being included in the 4.2 trailer and it didn't disappoint, Rene is an example of how one could actually have all the right questions and unravel so much but still not yield the most optimal result. Even thou he missed one variant he technically did foretell the arrival of the all devouring Narwhal and the bit about " drinking the amniotic fluids of the world dry" on one hand and on the other succeeded in maintaining his own will and individuality unlike the rest of fontainians who dissolved and were "no more". It's interesting different approches to the prophecy, either riding the tide of the the apocalypse and retaining "wills" version of survival versus what focalors did. I wish caterpillar let Rene explain his origin thou TTTT ... SIGH AND OF COURSE ALL LORE LINKS TO KAEYA Hopefully we learn more about the descenders next time we meet up with dain.
@codymitchell-ec8sc
@codymitchell-ec8sc 6 месяцев назад
Clarity I get after I finish the videos. keep up the amazing content
@elisabethkiseleva6794
@elisabethkiseleva6794 6 месяцев назад
This particular idea that descenders are heavenly weapons makes it straight to the point! I suppose, the whole Narzissenkreuz quest line was created to reveal the essence of our identity. And when the traveller has the strongest will he begins to glow like the sword. Amazing. I believe now all the chess figures are on the board. Soooo impatient to see what comes next.
@anime-lk8kq
@anime-lk8kq 6 месяцев назад
as soon as you got to the kaeya stuff my neurons fuckin ACTIVATED
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
genshin does anything -> monkey neuron meme in my brain as i make it about kaeya
@tine1396
@tine1396 6 месяцев назад
I'm always hyped to see your new Kaeya theory when i see a new video from you! I am glad to see i am not the only one having hundreds of thoughts about him. 😅 Kaeya better be in the next Dainsleif quest !
@TheJH1015
@TheJH1015 6 месяцев назад
ok, you mentioning the thing about 'being able to cut through will' reminded me of the second fight against Ei in the Inazuma Archon Quest. Yae Miko specifically says "Surely you don't think your ambition alone is enough to shake Ei's will, do you?" and the Traveler needing the ambition or WILL of the other people that got their Visions in the Statue of the Omnipresent God to break through Ei's. Same goes for Ei against the Puppet in her second story quest. And if you think about it, the SAME happened in Liyue with the Adepti granting the Traveler their powers or WILL to protect Liyue, and in Sumeru where through the Akasha and Nahida, ALL of Sumeru helped the Traveler defeat MechaMouche through their 'wisdom' or maybe WILL to protect their nation/Archon. There is a pattern of the people of a nation channeling their will to the Traveler to break through, or cut open, the threat to their existence or safety. The Traveler is learning to use their own will as a conduit of the will of the people of Teyvat to break the will of the world itself. The Holy Blade is the visualisation of our progress so far. We went from Dull Blade to Holy Blade. What if at the end of our journey, when the Traveler has refound their original will, the blade will evolve into their 'old' sword from the beginning cutscene to symbolise that?
@ambisunnyambi
@ambisunnyambi Месяц назад
i cant believe it took me, a kaeya main, forever to find your channel
@honkhonk1712
@honkhonk1712 6 месяцев назад
It always comes back to Kaeya.... omg
@rodon265
@rodon265 6 месяцев назад
1:29 "this meant dissolving everyone, and condensing everyone's consciousness into singular will that could survive the apocalypse" Project stygma flashbacks intensifies. (HI3 Chapter 32-35) "Gnoses are fragments of a will equall the world" (roughly) They trying to assemble all the pieces of Exod- sorry, finality!
@Max-tq5fs
@Max-tq5fs 6 месяцев назад
4.2 made me really care about genshin's story for the first time, bless all your content for letting me play convenient catch up.
@sassyquatch1185
@sassyquatch1185 6 месяцев назад
You have no idea how much I've been waiting for this video! Love your content, you're personally one of my favorite Genshin lore channels out there.
@johnb1145
@johnb1145 6 месяцев назад
So what you're also saying is...eventually the dull blade will become the blade the traveler originally used? That would explain why hoyo's so insistent on continuing for him to use the dull blade!
@amouramarie
@amouramarie 6 месяцев назад
It would make total sense, since there's pretty much nothing in the game - even basic mechanics - that aren't lore-related. IT would be pretty weird if the Traveller's sword is totally meaningless.
@adityawidarma3803
@adityawidarma3803 6 месяцев назад
this is why Alice isn't a Descender despite can freely travel between worlds
@DoeboyFreshNESS
@DoeboyFreshNESS 6 месяцев назад
Found your channel not too long ago. Im big into genshin lore and i am lovingggg your videos!!! Amazing job on all of them!!!!
@JustaSymmetra
@JustaSymmetra 6 месяцев назад
I really like your theory and speculation in this video they are very interesting !! I hope to see more from you in my recomandations
@GanjaCree
@GanjaCree 6 месяцев назад
Glad you made this video! Cleared some things that I didn’t understand about the quest also confirm my thoughts about the sword.
@bawbee5107
@bawbee5107 6 месяцев назад
this makes your halbert theory basically a cannon event
@kageki6686
@kageki6686 6 месяцев назад
man i love kaeya. i agree there's something more going on there! this makes me wonder more about that teacup from the archon quest, and possible connection to diluc >_> im looking forward to more hexenzirkel lore in the future. i cant wait to see how it all ties together
@TheJasperMage
@TheJasperMage 6 месяцев назад
I haven't read the shatetred halberd. but your mention about the gnosis being a weapon broken into parts made me think of it
@irenekara9134
@irenekara9134 6 месяцев назад
Amazing video I always buy snacks to watch your videos they’re bangers
@OhSnapItzSam
@OhSnapItzSam 6 месяцев назад
Wow, you’re the onlyyyy Lore RU-vidr to mention this, I’ve been waiting for someone to mention that maybe our siblings will does not match ours/the world
@Mahiczna
@Mahiczna 2 месяца назад
I found your channel through Ashikai and oh boy you have amazing theories. I really enjoy your videos and I am amazed by how much details you're finding. I love theorizing as well but I'm just blind and don't notice a lot of things xD Keep up the great work!!
@amouramarie
@amouramarie 6 месяцев назад
This video made me level the Sword of Narziessenkruez and give it to Kaeya.
@codymitchell-ec8sc
@codymitchell-ec8sc 6 месяцев назад
I enjoy watching your videos because you break down the lore that and your predictions and theories are almost actually the way it plays out that I believe that you are the smartest Genshin player because of how much I learn by your amazing videos thank you for breaking down the lore I find understanding the lore difficult when I am reading it in game. That's why I look for a video on your RU-vid channel and u always have the break down of the lore within days. So I want to thank you for the understanding and I c
@nthinparticular3345
@nthinparticular3345 6 месяцев назад
Great video, Deluluvelt (you asked us to comment that to show the commenter watched till the end?) I was in awe by the scene with Neuvillette and Furina goddess and the sword where your sentence perfectly lined up with the visuals...
@Jeskgames
@Jeskgames 6 месяцев назад
This was such an excellent theory!! Well done! I think you’re spot on about Kaeya
@ManjigumiVirus
@ManjigumiVirus 6 месяцев назад
that condensing everyone part sounds like project stigmata from HI3RD aand herrscher of reason core crystal is essentially people's minds iirc.
@prenimystic
@prenimystic 6 месяцев назад
This is just - WOW - your braincell is the holy blade itself - I could have never thought about this
@cainiaowu
@cainiaowu 6 месяцев назад
In Norse mythology, Lævateinn is a weapon crafted by Loki mentioned in the Poetic Edda poem Fjölsvinnsmál. The name Lævateinn does not appear in the original manuscript reading, but is an emendation from Hævateinn made by Sophus Bugge and others. The weapon is needed to slay the rooster Viðofnir atop the Mímameiðr tree in order for the seeker to achieve his quest, or so replies the wise porter Fjölsviðr, the titular character of the poem. Lævateinn has variously been asserted to be a dart (or some projectile weapon), or a sword, or a wand, by different commentators and translators. It is glossed as literally meaning a "wand" causing damage by several sources, yet some of these same sources claim simultaneously that the name is a kenning for sword. Others prefer to regard it as a magic wand (seiðr staff).
@cainiaowu
@cainiaowu 6 месяцев назад
Lævateinn is the only weapon capable of defeating the cockerel Viðofnir, as explained by Fiölsvith "the very wise" porter in the poem Fjölsvinnsmál.[1][2][3] Lopt, the sword's maker, refers to Loki.
@uhohstinkyyy
@uhohstinkyyy 6 месяцев назад
i do love this theory so much, but i’ve always had another thought which relates back to the travelers instead which involves their swords. in the start up quest when you first name the traveler with their alias, they are carrying a unique sword that we no longer see after the cutscene is over for the traveler. the traveler tells paimon that their powers were taken with it & we can visually see how this is the case (the traveler no longer has their wings, their original element, nor do they have their sword). the only time we see the traveler’s signature sword is when we do the “we will be reunited” quest and meet the abyss twin. the abyss twin has their sword. they are able to use their original powers. yet the traveler cannot. i like the idea that kaeya has a role in all of this, but i can’t see it more than him just being suspicious of the traveler. this is mostly because he grew up directly alongside kaeya. he wasn’t cursed in the same way. but his fathers/grandfathers sword? i don’t think it’s the narzissessinkreuz sword. i think it’s the traveler’s sword, a sword with the same ability as the narzissessinkreuz sword. as we were told, it fell from celestia into the sea. well we know that the traveler was fighting up against the unknown god. i think that sword is originally the travelers lost sword. and the narzissessinkreuz may be able to become their new sword or be able to help them retrieve it. but that’s just my theory! ^^
@spudsprout3752
@spudsprout3752 6 месяцев назад
I was taken aback by the sudden voice crack in the beggining. Great video essag nonetheless :)
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
noooOOOO I HOPED NO ONE WOULD NOTICE!!!!
@frenchie2580
@frenchie2580 6 месяцев назад
Excellent video again!
@ArctiVax
@ArctiVax 6 месяцев назад
Very good speculation. Everyone and their mother is believing our sibling is third descender but DIED and was ressurected in Teyvat (hence the Irminsul record) but i like your connection of Gnoses to a holy blade much better.
@mahinneer
@mahinneer 6 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot for this explanation video.
@Rexhunterj
@Rexhunterj 6 месяцев назад
Great speculation! Love hearing more ties between some of the best characters haha
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
Pin for any corrections / updates etc! - CCs should be up, let me know if there's any issues or errors! uhhh this had gone through quite a few variations so some things got accidentally cut! Just a minor clarification for now: - I forgot to include the fact I'm also referring to Neuvillette's new voicelines for some info, and maybe didn't explain that or give context for a few points.
@essendossev362
@essendossev362 6 месяцев назад
I've wondered if perhaps the gnosis are a part of our sibling that has been stripped away. Like how Focalors ... [spoilers] . . . . . . split out her divinity, leaving behind Furina. Perhaps the sibling we have seen is just the human remains of what was once a divine descender.
@thienphucn1
@thienphucn1 6 месяцев назад
Unlikely because the sibling is not a Descender. The Gnosis comes from the Third Descender
@kotarouinugami1745
@kotarouinugami1745 6 месяцев назад
@@thienphucn1The sibling is definitely something strange. It is quite possible they actually are a descender, and when they reclaimed enough of their power, they could no longer be logged in Irminsul.
@thienphucn1
@thienphucn1 6 месяцев назад
@@kotarouinugami1745 Descenders are not just someone who's from another world. There is a lot more than 4 people who is said or implied to be from outside Teyvat, but only 4 of them can be considered "Descenders". The sibling is not one of them
@amouramarie
@amouramarie 6 месяцев назад
@@thienphucn1 I think the suggestion was that the sibling _was_ the Third Descender, but after having parts of them split away, no longer has the will/power necessary to be called one. I think that's a pretty good theory, since as twins, it would make sense for us to be equal in that regard. And if the splitting of their will was done in Khaenri'ah, it would make sense that Irminsul believes they suddenly appeared there, "born" in Teyvat. Hmm, I like this theory, I'm gonna keep it in mind!
@Ryuukha
@Ryuukha 6 месяцев назад
Sooo we’re kaeya’s grandpa is what I’m getting 😂
@milam_is_ok
@milam_is_ok 6 месяцев назад
I'm so happy I found this video because the parallelism between the traveler and the sword was soooo prononunced it left me in need of a more systematic theory/explanation!
@SEZUALL
@SEZUALL 6 месяцев назад
You are my girl ❤just love how everything is connected to Kaeya and yes that can be true I heard maybe Kaeya's right eye is Eye of Providence which can see Past and future with it!
@Naruto4995
@Naruto4995 6 месяцев назад
Always loving the heat you put out here Rooze. That said, this actually inspired some thoughts of mine. Primarily how the idea of the 'Holy Blade' might've had it's most positive version of outcome in the Inazuman archon quest end point. (A culmination of powerful Reason safely united.) I want to dive into that. Primarily how by the example of the Traveler, Kazuha and inevitably the Visions of those fighting the Raiden Shogun made a miracle happen. I want to begin with the Traveler and how they were used as a 'catalyst' of burning a pathway for those very wills, something Yae Miko specifically points out towards 'They too have ambitions, which they long since entrusted to you.' Visions are a height of consummate human will and on top of that, the Traveler with only just a mere 100 of them managed to generate the scale of power to actively combat Raiden Ei. (Also shattering the effects of the Vision locking ability) These wills didn't find themselves subjugated, but aligned in a way where their powers actively resonated with each other. This is where I'd love to get Kazuha involved as well. Though his instance was momentarily brief in comparison, he managed to accomplish the same feat through the united front of his Vision and his best friend's in one being. It revealed how there's a very human potential where they can also be a 'holy blade' for many tales if resonance can be created. What this can imply? There's a lot tbh, mainly how there could be a thread of resemblance between Humanity and the Traveler that could be a pivotal missing link. It brings me back to a curious thought that Narziessenkreuz had about Visions in general, how amidst their unique research and cult-y sophistry they're described as 'errors', in a way that makes it sound like they can't be assimilated at all, thus lost. They never would've had a chance to know that such a possibility was possible, or even the means to tap such a spiritual height due to the path of physical evolutions made. (On time of having all that consciousness in a hot pot.) So that brings the up another question to me, should a Vision be considered the 'Holy Blade' of one's fate? Going by how it doesn't need to be a sword and the unique abilities the users channel from the might of their own desire, it left me contemplating. Also does this mean by chance that Yae Miko may have figured out what the Traveler is? Given how she considered the trade of a Gnosis vastly more worthwhile in the name of the Traveler's safety, and that other cutscene as well, they might've picked up on this.
@user-ku8yi5to4f
@user-ku8yi5to4f 3 месяца назад
Now THIS is a epic theory and had a good amount of reason behind it
@Executive14
@Executive14 6 месяцев назад
i like how i was here listening to you hammering the idea of the wills can be anything, and then i remembered the note that's in the ordo room that gives more info on what a descender is. And it says descenders aren't particularly ones that descended but ones that have wills can rival a planet or something like that bruh edit: oh i didn't know you go into this, i was like 4-5 minutes in
@pixelmikki
@pixelmikki 6 месяцев назад
deluluvelt lmfao. though I am SO glad someone else noted the lines about descenders from Narzissenkruetz. the implication is that "Descender" is a title, and not just anyone gets called one. I think it also could refer to the fact that our will is immune to Irminsul, while the twins was not. If our will cannot be bent by Irminsul, then perhaps this is what qualifies us as a Descender.
@TheGeekyRedMage
@TheGeekyRedMage 6 месяцев назад
"Boy, hope this isn't foreshadowing something crazy I'm going to say later." LET DELULUVELT COOK! But man... this one questline basically brought about so many answers while creating so many questions regarding Genshin's story as a whole now. lmao There's so much I want to discussion, but I'm too busy with school to let them simmer atm. I'll just say that while all of your Kaeya theories may feel "crack" in nature, they just feel like you're on to something considering the man we are talking about. lol Can't wait to actually parse through this questline myself whenever I finally finish Sumeru.
@stormauror2642
@stormauror2642 6 месяцев назад
i just want more lore for this update!! thanksss!!
@dprdesert1254
@dprdesert1254 6 месяцев назад
Kaeya has a sharingan under the patch
@ochaac7355
@ochaac7355 6 месяцев назад
I'm so happy I wasn't just my usual Kaeya obsessed self while doing the quest. I keep seeing Kaeya references in Fontaine and I don't wanna say I'm just making non-existent connections yet.
@marisentaku2159
@marisentaku2159 5 месяцев назад
I'm here just to hear you talk about Kaeya lmao
@Ayakasimp-ix8pw
@Ayakasimp-ix8pw 6 месяцев назад
this story is born out of sacrifices and offerings. this flame of revenge burns for years. Is death the mother of that great war which is talked about by the nature? has that saviour come from the city of the sky, whose feet are kissed by the earth. is the one who sacrifices capable of changing the fate?
@readerofalltrades
@readerofalltrades 6 месяцев назад
Holy macarons I was thinking where I had heard the word Arcadia in genshin before. IT WAS THE ARCADIAN RUINS.
@kusada3035
@kusada3035 6 месяцев назад
1:29 sounds real close to NGE's tangification ngl, so probably Jakob has a traumatized son to do his part & become orange fonta. was it Cater?
@nimue_minstrel
@nimue_minstrel 6 месяцев назад
Hey roozevelt! Great video, I love your crack theories and the amount of details and connections and clever inferences you're able to make (oh, and Kaeya that always fits in, deluluvelt of course).
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
aw ty!! and OHHH good catch! there are so many things I have to revisit now because of this patch lmao. thank you so much!!
@nimue_minstrel
@nimue_minstrel 6 месяцев назад
Yay I’m so glad I could share this with you! :D This patch was like a huge punch to the delicate puzzle that I was kind of desperately trying to assemble and now I’m even questioning the wiki timeline’s validity hahahah but that’s the fun of it! Hope to hear from you soon! @@roozeveltfox
@s2wuolf508
@s2wuolf508 6 месяцев назад
Following Ashikai's video, I believe that the reason Abyss sibling is not considered a descender is because they were summoned and arrived in Tevyat to carry the will of Khaenriah, while our traveller is very much carrying their own will to find(well convince at this point) their sibling to go with them, so our traveller still has a will that can match the entire world.
@muralikarthik4361
@muralikarthik4361 6 месяцев назад
Nothing is ever a coincidence in this game.
@Anastasia_Clouds
@Anastasia_Clouds 6 месяцев назад
Wait, the Red Queen and the Queen of Hearts are two different characters in the book and in the board games, and it must be very strange if the game treats them as one entity, naming them differently. the Red Queen being the older version of White queen chess piece, and the Queen of hearts being born from the card game. The Red Queen was the one sleeping all the time, that's why the looking-glass world turns out to be her dream and her, Alice's little kitten in the 'real world'. The White Knight representing Alain Guillotine is also a chess reference. I also think Lyris being the Red Queen refers to alchemical symbolism of red color. But who might be the Queen of Hearts, then?
@rurikko
@rurikko 6 месяцев назад
I have always thought the way the Holy Blade glowed made it look pretty similar to the sword the travelers originally used though the hilts were different. As for the dull blade, I never paid attention to the weapon descriptions at all, so seeing that the weapon used in prerendered scenes turned out to have lore in connection with the Holy Blade and the descenders is pretty mind blowing for me. This is definitely making me look forward to more world quests and traveler lore in the future updates.
@crimsonmoon123
@crimsonmoon123 6 месяцев назад
Interesting... Here's what I've been thinking - Khaenriah summoned Traveler because they knew the "true nature of the world" by using "forbidden knowledge" from the abyss and wanted to change it with the help of traveler. Traveler, having a strong enough will gets classified as the 4th descender by abyss and irminsul. The 3rd descender was also summoned by khaenriah but they died somehow and now their remains are the gnosis as stated by skirk. Natlan's archon quest is named "Ode of Resurrection" because it is going to be the last nation whose gnosis is needed by fatui and Tsaritsa to "Resurrect" the 3rd descender. The end game can be the resurrected 3rd and 4th descender vs celestia. The sibling and traveler are twins and got summoned together by khaenriah but the sibling did not have enough "will" to be declared a descender and thus they chose to side with abyss order and play out their part in such a manner that it would lead traveler to change the world. But there are two major things which don't add up in my theory which is 1.where or how did traveler get separated from sibling in the timeline? 2.what is Paimon's identity and purpose? Feel free to correct me if you think I'm going delulu 😂
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
I think all this is generally consistent with what we know. I think the only thing (which I admittedly did not mention) is that technically we only know 'the heavens responded to the summoning' (from Scaramouche) and khaenri'ah seemed to be watching the twins' orbit (from that one coop namecard). And it seems like they ended up with the sibling and not traveler for reasons unknown. I'm personally still super unsure why the sibling isn't a descender. Did they have a will and lose it, or did they never have it? Many questions to be added to your list there, all of which I wonder about lmao. (Also ty for sharing 😋)
@crimsonmoon123
@crimsonmoon123 6 месяцев назад
@@roozeveltfox we need a dainslief archon quest in fontaine asap 😩
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
@@crimsonmoon123 YEAH WE DO!!!
@xChaosFlower
@xChaosFlower 6 месяцев назад
To add to Kaeya's suspicion, he was cinematically introduced feet first. Which is a common trope pointing out that that character is some kind of antagonist. I deadass didn't trust Kaeya for the LONGEST solely because of that, and his extensive knowledge of the Abyss. Hes the only character introduced this way (if i recall correctly) and him being Khaenrian doesn’t help.
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983 6 месяцев назад
1:41 Ya know. Genshin at this point also need an Eva collab. I would love to see Kaworu or Rei here if Asuka is in Honkai.
@GVS2001
@GVS2001 6 месяцев назад
PLEASE I NEED MORE LORE VIDEOS, TYSM FOR YOUR EFFORT
@jozeph2932
@jozeph2932 6 месяцев назад
So the blade keeps moving forward and will destroy anyone that dares to take its freedom.
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
you know, iirc there’s nothing that says that explicitly (correct me if i’m wrong), but that’s a super SUPER interpretation of this. HMMM.
@kiaradoesart9682
@kiaradoesart9682 6 месяцев назад
Kaeya also inherited his eyepatch from sexy pirate grandpa 😉Symbolism of hidden sight (sight of what's hidden?) mayhaps?? Personally your tinfoil sections are my favourite hahaha
@kneeofjustice9619
@kneeofjustice9619 6 месяцев назад
The power of reason can create things, destroy things and rival the world. Where have I heard that before?
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
are you asking me or do you have an answer, because if so reveal it because it's late night and my neurons aren't firing 🫵
@kneeofjustice9619
@kneeofjustice9619 6 месяцев назад
@@roozeveltfox No I was making a joke
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 6 месяцев назад
@@kneeofjustice9619 cries in shame but also ty for watching
@berrybread7215
@berrybread7215 6 месяцев назад
Kaeya’s silly little story quest strikes again. My delusions that he’ll get a Dan Heng style five star re-release gains steam.
@TheBritishCigarette
@TheBritishCigarette 6 месяцев назад
IS KAEYA A VISIONARY?? IS THAT WHY ONE OF HIS EYES IS COVERED???
@BocchitheGwak
@BocchitheGwak 6 месяцев назад
Damn great vid
@elis_swan3271
@elis_swan3271 6 месяцев назад
First of all,Kaeya is worth every video Second of all, metaphor about Travaller being the Holy Blade is chef's kiss Third of all,important question to ya all: what arkhe do you prefer on the Holy Blade? For me it is Ousia,cause it looks so violet and prettyyy
@nour2736
@nour2736 6 месяцев назад
Great video
@alexanderericson8628
@alexanderericson8628 6 месяцев назад
the HOLY blade of delulululululu
@Adrianirl
@Adrianirl 6 месяцев назад
I love this… oh my gosh, Balls is the real prophet all along. DELULU = GOOD
@megann1416
@megann1416 6 месяцев назад
i think the holy blade and the shattered halberd(s ??? multiple maybe???) are connected. i cant remember she shattered halberd lore, it's been a while since i saw a video on it but the holy blade reminded me of it
@Neloch4
@Neloch4 6 месяцев назад
wait wait wait it's got visual effects i gotta go get that thing immediately
@YukiZero
@YukiZero 3 месяца назад
TBH.... The holy blade could have been the free 5 star sword given to us... and its amazing that the free 5 star weapon we get is locked behind a really really good world quest.
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