Some crap like that at any rate

WHOOOOA nice catch with that one!!!

Yeah me to im stuck in chapter 3 act 5 bc I need to one shot scaramouche using eula and neuvillette

what if Dainsleif is Nibelung. The dragons liked Khaenri'ah maybe the king took it upon himself to defend Khaenri'ah personally. Apep was friends with Deshret so I don't see that as impossible. There is also the ring Dainsleif has that he is trying to mend to get back his full powers is what I suspect. There is a commission in Mondstadt were he tries to mend it, after that he is looking for the first field tiller. It's also clear that Dainsleif likes dragons and detest Archons and they have the stolen dragons authority over the thrones.

Hear me out: Nibelung's pearl is the thing that Kaeya's father sent him to Mondstat to retrieve and the fate of Khaenri'ah depends on it and this "loom of fate" is really Nibelung getting his body back through abyssal and spirit vein powers and the final battle will be between the Second Who Came, the Khaenri'ans and Nibelung, the Primordial One, and the Fatui. I CAN EXPLAIN! You see, I was watching this old theory video by Roozevelt discussing the similarities between the Veluriyam mirage event and Kaeya's hangout event with Khaenri'ah's lore(Here's the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9l8VuXX0wH0.html ). About 6 minutes in she mentions Der Ring des Nibelungen, which inspires a lot of Khaenri'ah's lore. In this story, the dwarf, Alberich, and Nibelung steals the Rhinegold from the Rhinemaidens and forges a ring of power, and the entire story revolves around the conflict of everyone trying to obtain that ring. It has always been a mystery as to how the Alberich's rose to power. Now it is my belief that either Nibelung is the "Sinner" that converted Caribert and brought about the Alberich's reign, convincing them he has a way to save their nation, or the Sinner is someone else but they form an alliance with Nibelung later or use him somehow, but I think the first theory is more likely true. Because remember, they call their ultimate weapon THE LOOM OF FATE!!! LOOM!!! FATE!!! Nibelung must want to use the same strategy to take control of the world that the Primordial One used to do the same. Perhaps this "loom of fate" really refers to Nibelung's body. Or some warped, Abyssal version of it. Perhaps Nibelung has had the Alberichs/Khaenri'ans working to get Nibelung an Abyssal body, which COULD explain the warped Statue of the Seven that we find when we first meet the abyss twin. I don't think it's a far stretch, since the Gnoses were created to still be able to subdue the lands to some extent. Perhaps to make this "loom of fate" a.k.a. Nibelung, they have found a way to combine or absorb what is most likely the spirit vein energy that is in the statues of the seven to slowly create and generate enough power for the loom of fate. Now, this could be Nibelung's body or perhaps it is just an actual machine, but I think either way it will be Nibelung that will control it, thus controlling fate. The Khaenri'an people must have allied with Nibelung so Nibelung could use the power of fate to change the fate of their people, making them prosperous again and removing the curse the gods put upon them. But... despite already having made plans to create this loom of fate hundreds of years in advance, Kaeya's father still told him that the FATE of Khaenri'ah lays in Kaeya's hands. So surely... there must be one component missing to truly complete this loom of fate? That's right... it's Nibelung's pearl, and it's in Mondstat, the nation of freedom. It's my theory that Venti is in possession of Nibelung's Pearl, but without the loom, he can't control the fate of the entire world. But... I believe that he might be able to control part of it. For I believe Venti to have a secret identity... the Primordial One. Or as I like to call him, the "Ehe" One. You see, I always suspected that Venti might be the Primordial One, but this recent theory just made this theory to be more plausible. For starters, the Primordial One, or Phanes, was androgynous in appearance, and had wings and a crown, just like Venti. Although, you will notice that now Venti only has one wing, perhaps lost when I believe he lost his seat of power fighting the Second Who Came. I'm sure you know of the other things that make people believe this theory to be plausible, Istaroth residing in Mondstat, yadda yadda. So here's what I think happened: The "Ehe" One is having fun ruling over the world when the Second Who Came pops in and they fight for control. Amidst the chaos, the loom of fate somehow gets destroyed, but Nibelung's pearl remains intact. The Second Who Came wins, but the world is falling apart which neither want, so them and the "Ehe" One join forces to create the Gnoses to control the land. I also have a theory that the price vision wielders pay is that their wills are taken and put in the visions(hence why their will goes away when the vision is taken) and is used to power the Gnoses, for only will can control the ley lines, but for the sake of length I won't dive too deep into that. Anyway, they create the Gnoses, the Second Who Came becomes ruler, they compromise and the "Ehe" One gets to become the Anemo Archon. And somehow with the deal the "Ehe" One is either allowed to keep Nibelung's pearl or tricks the Second Who Came so he could keep possession of it. But that leaves me wondering three things: Why is he the god of freedom? And if he really is the Primordial One, why did he appear to be so weak when Signora attacked him? And why does he need to hibernate so much? Well, I believe that he was able to utilize the power of Nibelung's pearl to some extent and make Mondstat free from fate, hence why it is the nation of freedom. I don't think this theory is so crazy because after all, he was the one who made the original loom of fate, making a budget loom of fate doesn't seem entirely out of the question. I think this could be why Venti seems to be so weak and hibernates so much, he is using his own power, perhaps with some technique like the Khaenri'ans are doing with their own "loom of fate", to make Mondstat free of fate entirely. Perhaps Venti was too beat up from the war or the Second Who Came took a lot of his power away which is why making a loom of fate on the same level as his previous one impossible, who knows. He uses his powers to power this loom of fate and that's why he barely has any power of his own to wield and often has to go into hibernation to regain more strength, and why he interferes in Mondstat affairs much less than other archons. One thing I noticed that was mentioned a lot in Kaeya's play during his hangout event was "fate" and how he would defy it. He mentions how the world is a stage and people are it's players, but that he thinks people should realize that they don't have to follow the script. Fate has decided that he can either side with Mondstat, or Khaenri'ah. So perhaps how instead of resigning himself to fate and choosing a side, he pulls something out of left field. Which in Mondstat, a land free of fate, that might be possible. I always thought that Kaeya would side with Mondstat when it came time to choose, but what if his decision is crazier than that? What if he doesn't pick a side, and decides to try to save both nations? I could go on for a long time about what Kaeya's plan could be, but for the sake of length, I will again refrain. I believe that like the opera, Der Ring des Nibelungen, the ultimate end game of this world is to get a hold of Nibelung's pearl and the winner will be able to control the world. I believe the Fatui's project Stuzha to have something to do with this. Perhaps it could be a plan to obtain Nibelung's pearl and use it to control fate or perhaps they have a different strategy to get rid of fate entire(again for the sake of length I won't talk about it more), and all the big forces of this world(well, two worlds?) are going to duke it out in the finale. I believe that the Second Who Came will obviously want this pearl but I don't know what her plan might be to utilize it, Venti(or the "Ehe" One) at the very least will want the pearl to fall in good hands, so I could either see him wanting to keep it for himself or allying with the Fatui to give it to them, or perhaps he doesn't contribute that much in the final battle because of how weak he is who knows, and Nibelung/Khaenri'ah so Nibelung can finally gain control of the world again which would not be good for anyone in Teyvat. I'm pretty confident with this theory. I highly doubt I got everything right, but I feel like this theory will hold up pretty well(God am I gonna eat my words?). Okay, I am finally finished talking! I would love to hear anyone's comments on my theory, what you liked, if there's something you disagree with, what you think it is instead, points of my theory you could expand on, etc. I would love to generate discussion!

Since the Sinner has the power to see us through our taking over our sibling's mind and pov it's more likely he's The Primordial One or Second Who Came. Something THAT powerful to see us through time and space is someone who is outside of Teyvats natural law.

The theory is very cool and primordial one using Nibelung pearl to control fate of Teyvat sounds pretty much reasonable. The problem is that Neuvilette said in his dialogues that after the war of vengeance the usurper(Phanes) lost his functions, so they no longer can suppress the word with their authority. And also says that the fate is a mean by which Phanes plays with living beings. Yes, the weaving fate machine with nibelung's pearl might have been broken, but it's seems to me more that Neuvilette impling that function to suppress the world was personal of primordial one, he says directly Phanes wounded so they no longer can maintain control over Teyvat by themselves. I suppose that can do something with will of descender, and l think it also can do something with the music of humana and mundana. So the music of mundana is the music of world, it's laws and the fate of it's inhabitants. While the music of humana is the music of human souls(not the voices, l suppose human voices would make music of instruments) or the music of combined human will. Remember the music of humana can replace the music of world(natural laws), so the strong enough human will can control natural order or to say that replace the sound of natural order or suppress it's sound, how l think it works the music of world(laws) has it's own temp, rhythm and loud but when the music of humana(wish and will) become louder(stronger) than the music of the mundana, the Will of individual(descender) or the combined will of individuals(yeah if the will of one person is too quite and cannot suppress the sound of world, combine those weak will to create a stronger will, l suppose that what Remus, Deshret, Rene tried to do but failed cus every will is merged in one but still these wills belonged to different individuals, thus being different and creating different sound and inevitably the difference between humans will lead to disharmony, predetermining collapse of such will) can and would implant it's wish to how things work in this world. What l mean by that Phanes is the first descender, and thus have the will to rival the whole world or to say the primordial one implant their own music of humana to music of the world and l think after the war of vengeance they lost their ability to suppress the natural order, so to suppress the natural order they used the natural order(very ironic), yeah l think the dragon authority is the natural order, they stole dragons authorities and put them into remnants of third descender to keep them in check and used the Nibelung pearl to create the weaving machine for fate, yes l think the loom of fate was created much more later(like why you need it when you can suppress world by yourself, and remember traveler is going to rewrite fate in the end, what l want to say the fate is controlled by musica mundana(world laws) and the point is that fate is controlled by stars while position of constellations are repeating the position of roots of irminsul and irminsul controls the flow of elements that create Teyvat, so control the flow of elements -> control fate). There is more remember Chenyu wale, it's says there that the natural order returns back and returns Teyvat back to state of primordial pure elements, collapsing Teyvat to elemental world, leading to the death of all life (not elemental pure forms), yes l believe until the arrival of the primordial one the world was fully made out of elements, remember Chenyu wale the adepti says or remembers that in her past until will of gods turned her to adepti, the elements were everywhere but now they are only in leylines(miasmi(l dunno how to spell) are the elements which escaped from leylines or turned back to it's natural state) that implies to me that until Phanes teraformed Teyvat, the world was only pure elements(and it actually mentioned that being without an elemental sight would be completely blind in that kind of world, though for dragons it looked pretty normal), what l say if before the elements were everywhere and now they contained in leylines(roots of irminsul), the irminsul was created as the basis of this world, from elements of dragon world, to create and maintain Teyvat and it's laws. Now l perfectly understand dragons and their hate towards everything connected to primordial one, imagine some random dude shows up, bits you, claims you home as their property, than taking the basis that created you home world and made from it a tree(completely destroys your world in process), and tree creates another world, than this random dude create very aggressive specie, which continue hating(you know tales of dragons) you and biting you and than when you try to reclaim what belonged to you, they beat you up again, take you heart, create from your leader's heart a machine to control your fate(not only dragons fate, but anyway). Very cool indeed. Btw sorry for my bad English

@@Orion_TheyThem BUT Abyss magic is known to have its own will, so if Nibelung got a bunch of Abyss juice into his system, I believe it would be possible for him

What if it's the other way around Nibelung is Dainsleif. "He was the twillight sword" Genshin has already shown that the symbolic between swords and fate There is also this connection the siblings have with the dragons as there powers resembles the sovereigns and not the archons . It's also states in game that Dainsleif has a corruption a sickness if you will. Nibelung was described to be corrupted by forbidden knowledge by Apep so this is not guessing. Dainsleif is surprised that Halfdan can break out of the curse without "it" and that should be the ring you talk about, but that ring is in possession of Dainsleif currently. He is trying to mend that with the first field tiller, and is trying to find rhine stone to mend it. The most suspicious evidence for me is him telling the traveller "Command me, save her" He is feeling guilt over what he did to Lumine but he felt it was necessary to stop the blasphemy that was going on in Khaenri'ah at that time. Dainsleif is not really opposed of Celestia as far as I understand he wants to uphold status quo. The first time we meet him we answer very suspicious questions about our allegiances. It is possible that the abyss order were the dragons that stood up to Celestia and the reason why they hate Dainsleif so much is because he is the king that betrayed them. Therefore the story is really only about dragons and which side some dragons took. I even think humans are related to dragons in Genshin they just don't know it yet.

what if the Traveler's journey was set up by the Abyss Order

yeah...