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The HORRIFIC Execution Of Margaret Clitherow - Pressed To Death By Elizabeth I 

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The Elizabethan times were extremely dangerous for those who disagreed with Elizabeth I's reforms with regards to religion. The Tudor period is synonymous with religious turmoil due to the English Reformation, and during the era many heretics were murdered by the axe, or even worse by being burned at the stake. Henry VIII and Bloody Mary I would have a legacy for being bloodthirsty and for ordering brutal executions, but the death of Margaret Clitherow would shock the then Queen Elizabeth I.
Elizabeth I's religious settlement aimed to sort out any divisions between Catholics and Protestants, but those Catholics who did practice in illegal ways did face severe punishments. One of these was Margaret Clitherow, who has been known as the 'Pearl of York.' She would be found guilty of harbouring and hiding Catholic priests, and would refuse to admit guilt and implicate herself or her family.
For this she was sentenced to a horrific execution known as 'Death by your own door.' The pregnant Margaret Clitherow would be forced to lie down on a bridge, with a sharp rock jabbing into her spine with her door laid ontop her her, and almost a tonne of weight added to the door. This was a horrendous ordeal, which even shocked Elizabeth I who was appauled at her death. Join us today as look at the horrific execution of Margaret Clitherow, the Pearl of York.
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Комментарии : 2,9 тыс.   
@louisewoodward9
@louisewoodward9 3 года назад
To do this to anybody is beyond evil, but to a pregnant woman... I cannot imagine the pain, heartbreak and fear that poor woman felt.
@yeet1353
@yeet1353 3 года назад
@Desert Blue I'm not sure about dogs but he did have dogs feed of people
@yeet1353
@yeet1353 3 года назад
He was still a monster
@rangoman1815
@rangoman1815 3 года назад
Normal day in liberal cities: abortion
@thecreativemillenial
@thecreativemillenial 2 года назад
@@rangoman1815 except abortionists don't intentionally try to kill the mother and, though I don't agree with it, the women tend to go in willingly
@rangoman1815
@rangoman1815 2 года назад
@@thecreativemillenial willful killings - that's what makes these people so dangerous and on par with the Sariah law followers because they justify it as normal
@georgefitter7656
@georgefitter7656 3 года назад
Man's inhumanity towards man knows no bounds!
@magdahearne497
@magdahearne497 3 года назад
Ain't that the truth!
@theCVN7
@theCVN7 3 года назад
all in the name of god
@theprancingrat
@theprancingrat 3 года назад
Debateble if atheistic totalitarian have the largest count. Doesnt really matter though as the nimber is huge either way.
@coffeecuppepsi
@coffeecuppepsi 3 года назад
Towards everything really
@Sean-ky4bj
@Sean-ky4bj 3 года назад
@junglemanlawyer1 You mean those countries where the head of state was worshipped like a god and anything said against him was treated as blasphemy? Those places where your suffering was dismissed as eventually being for the greater good? Those places where if you did something out of line you’d be sent to a hellish prison? Some of those totalitarian regimes may have claimed to be atheistic but they took all the core parts of the abrahamic religions which made people so terrified and subservient to them and used them for their own purposes. If you need an example of that today just look at North Korea, an “atheist” county where they still worship a dead man as a god and if you don’t then you’ll be sent off to a hell on Earth.
@catherineb2951
@catherineb2951 3 года назад
You’d think they would have spared her because she was with child but-nope. Just evil.
@pakde8002
@pakde8002 3 года назад
That was pure murder. The murdering of an innocent child.
@jandrews6254
@jandrews6254 3 года назад
Pak De and what do you call her death?
@HowDeepIsYourJesus
@HowDeepIsYourJesus 3 года назад
Protestants didn't care about abortion back then, twas more of a catholic issue. But yes, pure evil in the name of God.
@amberwallace2850
@amberwallace2850 3 года назад
Even the Puritans stayed the executions of pregnant “witches” during the witch trials in Salem.
@HowDeepIsYourJesus
@HowDeepIsYourJesus 3 года назад
@@dougijcw9758 Really? Like 9/11 and the Holocaust?
@leegould5306
@leegould5306 3 года назад
Who would’ve thought that those who claimed to be so pious could act with such evil and hypocrisy 🤔
@jandrews6254
@jandrews6254 3 года назад
Lee Gould where have you been hiding?
@TK-gd9td
@TK-gd9td 3 года назад
Because church is for those who need them the most.
@davidbeaulieu4815
@davidbeaulieu4815 3 года назад
Religion is evil so it's not surprising.
@richardkuehn7015
@richardkuehn7015 3 года назад
Those who believe in absurdities most readily commit atrocities
@suzyq690
@suzyq690 3 года назад
And May I introduce you to the Democratic left!
@leemi-cha3229
@leemi-cha3229 3 года назад
This is what happens when Religion is decided by a government. It becomes political, not just a matter of faith.
@tesmith47
@tesmith47 3 года назад
All religions are political
@louiscyfer6944
@louiscyfer6944 3 года назад
this is what happens when you believe any of that nonsense.
@DavidSmith-gj2dm
@DavidSmith-gj2dm 3 года назад
@@tesmith47 with the big exception of Jehovah’s witnesses , that are completely politically neutral , this is the reason why they are persecuted in Russia for instance. They like the original Christian congregation of the 1st century did not take political office in Rome or anywhere else . It’s a sobering thought that not one of our distant families during the 1st or 2nd world war was shot or injured by a Jehovah’s Witness on either side of the channel .
@oldrabidus2230
@oldrabidus2230 3 года назад
Eric Redekop Came here to post this. Well done.
@mikeos1
@mikeos1 3 года назад
@@DavidSmith-gj2dm More to the point, did any Jehovah’s Witness ever defend any person from attack by malign or corrupt Communist or Fascist forces?
@hhale
@hhale 3 года назад
I like how Elizabeth I was appalled by the death and method of death of Margaret Clitherow, yet her laws were directly responsible for it.
@OpticalFetish
@OpticalFetish 3 года назад
But that punishment wasn't meant for women! D:
@hhale
@hhale 3 года назад
@@OpticalFetish Someone should have told the executioners of Joan of Arc that.
@joselugo4536
@joselugo4536 3 года назад
It goes without saying the executioners were British.
@bertiodvonrastenburger1129
@bertiodvonrastenburger1129 3 года назад
@@joselugo4536 Don't suppose you have ever heard of the Spanish inquisition by any chance.
@joselugo4536
@joselugo4536 3 года назад
The one that in 350 years processed 125,000 people but only sentenced to death 3,000 people? By comparison, in 38 years Henry VIII murdered 72,000 people.
@superblackcode
@superblackcode 3 года назад
Evil deeds in the name of religion . This shows how screw up most humans are
@logicn.reasoning9744
@logicn.reasoning9744 3 года назад
Leave me out of this.
@Palmieres
@Palmieres 3 года назад
@@logicn.reasoning9744 Oh, darling, you're hardly on most people's list. No one ever invites you and when some brave soul mentions your name they get pelted with insults, cry "oppression" and "freedom of belief". I like you, though.
@logicn.reasoning9744
@logicn.reasoning9744 3 года назад
@@Palmieres Thanks, doll.
@Behyelzebub
@Behyelzebub 3 года назад
@junglemanlawyer1 God was the original mass murderer.
@Behyelzebub
@Behyelzebub 3 года назад
@junglemanlawyer1 God set a good example though you have to admit and he did create evil. By the way Hitler was a Catholic and Nazi Germany was a devout Christian country.
@kimwiser445
@kimwiser445 3 года назад
Its truly sad the things that people did and still do to each other in the name of religion and ideologies.
@tetekofa
@tetekofa 3 года назад
The Catholic Spaniards ruined everything they touched.
@elleondejuda4681
@elleondejuda4681 3 года назад
When someone is a fan of a religion or a political party a group LGTB , WHATEVER, believer or not, and you do bad things to others... is not Good... YOU are in the wrong path. We all can disagree in many things but don't kill or disrespect, impose you ideology etc...you become Hitler , the pope killing people in medieval times , communist killing millions , so on and on. I dislike many political parties, i disagree with many religions but as long they dont force them to anyone ...is cool. But anything that is pushed by the force on people saying is "good is my right, whatever....is very bad...cause one persone has also the right to choose. Don't be a Natzi, be very careful with what you fallow ,is not just a religion, is a philosophical ideas that are also very dangerous and this are every where. Stanley was not a religious person and he killed millions, in china the communist party has killed many people also ,and they're not a religion, some might have a bad religion but that's not the case , bad religion, bad philosophical ideas etc ,are bad when there impose to a individual or a group who don't want anything to do with. Religion or no religion, people can be cruel to others and thats the problem with many philosophies out there, trying to tell you that there is no right and wrong , everything is relative, oh they're out there hunting people, check RAVI ZACHARIAH, debating against very crazy arguments and philosophical ideas in young people. Some of them don't want government, police etc Know you imagine that, saying we all can just behave according to whatever we might define as "good and right " the problem is ?whats right and wrong? Well there's the problem, Stanley killed for the right reason for him ,then CHAVEZ IN BENEZUELA did what was right for him , I'm not saying or me think that but people have to be very careful who they fallow is my point, and if is going to harm someone else in a total bad way then is very bad...say no to that ! We all have to learn to continue living together and working with our differences and respect is the key ,don't force anything to anyone.
@joselugo4536
@joselugo4536 3 года назад
Tete, of course it was better to allow the Protestant Englishmen to colonize Mexico, keeping in mind the infected blankets with Smallpox gifted by Lord Jeffrey Amherst!
@cambo1200
@cambo1200 3 года назад
It’s all about power, they justify it using the veil of religion.
@ayounglivelysoulinanoldtir3512
@ayounglivelysoulinanoldtir3512 3 года назад
jesus, himself forecast that his teachings would cause deaths & wars when he said "i come, not to bring peace, but a sword!"
@marcmoore6730
@marcmoore6730 3 года назад
R.I.P you beautiful lady. How brave can one person be? We have a lot to learn from this ladies unfaltering kindness and loyalty x
@gaiasgift
@gaiasgift 3 года назад
And also a lot to learn from the pointlessness of the brutality leveled against her.
@jdellison3817
@jdellison3817 3 года назад
Yes in deedy.....
@alvinjensen8653
@alvinjensen8653 2 года назад
Totally agree poor girl.
@kristopherfoley1633
@kristopherfoley1633 3 года назад
I am learning more from your channel, in the last 2 days, than I ever learned in history class, in 4 years. I forgot how good it feels to learn 🤗🤗
@rebekahlikesmusic2723
@rebekahlikesmusic2723 2 года назад
It really does though! I agree💚
@PaulHigginbothamSr
@PaulHigginbothamSr 3 года назад
Wow I couldn't help crying during the final moments of this horror, and I am a 73 year old protestant.
@TheUntoldPast
@TheUntoldPast 3 года назад
This is an amazing comment. I'm glad you listened to the story, and I hope you found it a source of inspiration. It's important to contextualise the times in which this event occured within. Times are very different nowadays. Thanks so much for your comment.
@livelikeacat9955
@livelikeacat9955 3 года назад
Makes you wonder who would come up with such barbaric execution methods...
@Mr11Worcester
@Mr11Worcester 3 года назад
Vila vila In the name of RELIGION.....
@GretaZ-dd3lu
@GretaZ-dd3lu 3 года назад
men.
@davestrong4487
@davestrong4487 3 года назад
One word simply putting it. "Humams" there's nothing to do with religions, or beliefs, it's simply that humans are barbaric by nature, it's really not that hard to figure out. All we know as a species is destruction, our history proves that over and over again. We conquer ourselves in masses, we murder each other, we execute each other, we slaughter animals and drive species to extinction, we dig the earth and cut down trees. We're the only species that's ever existed on this planet that's done nothing but destroy everything in the way.
@livelikeacat9955
@livelikeacat9955 3 года назад
@JHeints - I understand why they did it, what I don't understand is how they were able to...
@hpqzhpqz9688
@hpqzhpqz9688 3 года назад
Those who like to dress up and tout themselves as earthly emissaries of an alleged god are arrogant enough.
@yuhyuh7603
@yuhyuh7603 3 года назад
"There's a hole in the world like a great black pit and it's full of people full of shit..." - Sweeney Todd
@kingofmc.donald9010
@kingofmc.donald9010 3 года назад
“And the vermin of the world inhabit it”
@michaelcurtis6157
@michaelcurtis6157 3 года назад
Love the channel. A big time history fanatic I had thought I was running out of stuff.
@kwaichangcaine8234
@kwaichangcaine8234 3 года назад
I grew up in Ireland and heard many stories of terrible atrocities . One that sticks in my mind is the story of how Michael O'Neill was killed in Newtownmountkennedy County Wicklow , when I was very young in my very early years of school at teacher read the story to us, it was absolutely horrifying.
@Clodaghbob
@Clodaghbob 3 года назад
Kwai Chang Caine Yup. That was gruesome
@kwaichangcaine8234
@kwaichangcaine8234 3 года назад
@@Clodaghbob Where are you from Bob?
@Clodaghbob
@Clodaghbob 3 года назад
Kwai Chang Caine Dublin. It's Clodagh not Bob.
@kwaichangcaine8234
@kwaichangcaine8234 3 года назад
@@Clodaghbob Sorry Clodag , I haven't seen that name in a long time .
@kwaichangcaine8234
@kwaichangcaine8234 3 года назад
@@Clodaghbob Clodagh **
@whispermcgaughy7251
@whispermcgaughy7251 3 года назад
I've never heard of such a method for execution..😲 I can't imagine the level of faith and bravery it would take to resign to such a fate..😔
@aloknarain723
@aloknarain723 3 года назад
Little known subjects to choose from ! Your choice of topics gladdens me. We never read about such people and incidents in History classes.
@Gwaithmir
@Gwaithmir 3 года назад
“Man is the religious animal. He is the only religious animal. He is the only animal that has the true religion--several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn't straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother's path to happiness and heaven.” (Mark Twain)
@awesomefacepalm
@awesomefacepalm 3 года назад
The duality of man
@renegadedonutshorse
@renegadedonutshorse 3 года назад
@@awesomefacepalm full metal jacket reference? :)
@awesomefacepalm
@awesomefacepalm 3 года назад
@@renegadedonutshorse i actually haven't seen it :) I just feel like it explains man very good
@guitarguru.3572
@guitarguru.3572 3 года назад
We’re the only creatures to claim a god, and also the only to behave like there isn’t one.
@josout6135
@josout6135 3 года назад
How to the point this quotation of Mark Twain is! Thanks Gwaithmir. I'll remember it!
@lovescatsthing
@lovescatsthing 3 года назад
Thank you for airing the unsavoury and uncomfortable truths of our past.....not only did we minister horrendous treatment to poor souls abroad.....we did it to our own people too.
@maureengillies9495
@maureengillies9495 3 года назад
Poor woman the barbarity of her death is horrendous
@Jshh7s
@Jshh7s 3 года назад
And so has every country that’s ever existed - its human nature
@greenspiraldragon
@greenspiraldragon 3 года назад
It was a common method of forcing a plea. I wonder how many other people suffered this horrible death too. Elbert D. Giles Corey was pressed to death on September 19, 1692 in Salem Village for refusing to go to trial. That was during the Salem witch trials.
@sarasunshinemt4444
@sarasunshinemt4444 3 года назад
Brilliant plan, pressing someone like that to get a confession, it being SO EASY to talk and all while the air in your lungs are being forced out... I sometimes think people used to do these sorts of things out of boredom. You know, whip up an outrage, think up some horrible torture and bam! the Wednesday doldrums are a thing of the past.
@jrooney58
@jrooney58 3 года назад
@@sarasunshinemt4444 It was not done to force a confession. It was done to get the defendant to either plead guilty or not guilty. A number of people essentially chose to die this way in order to avoid pleading and suffering a conviction. If they went to trial and were convicted, lands were held to be forfeited to the monarch, thus their family would suffer. But if they died without pleading, they were not guilty under the law and property wouldn’t be escheated to the state.
@NIKNAK1
@NIKNAK1 3 года назад
what sucks is in most cases you die regardless....the juries were your peers your neighbors.... your friends your enemies...there was no justice....
@adeleennis2255
@adeleennis2255 3 года назад
My great grandmother (x13) was hung in Salem in August 1692. The “good” judges of Salem tortured her two oldest sons by tying them up hands to ankles, and then hung them upside down until blood came out their noses. Still, great grandma never plead guilty. Elbert Giles Corey was the only other person in those trials to not plead guilty.
@GodismyJudge47
@GodismyJudge47 3 года назад
I believe it was also Giles Corey who was quoted at such a time for his innocence as saying, "more weight".
@northumbriabushcraft1208
@northumbriabushcraft1208 3 года назад
0:19 that fudge shop in york is great
@sega64official
@sega64official 3 года назад
Call the judge, get some fudge
@catholiccrusader5328
@catholiccrusader5328 3 года назад
That fudge shop made me hungry for some too.
@inigoportman8358
@inigoportman8358 3 года назад
very expensive
@howler6490
@howler6490 3 года назад
Here we are,involved in a discussion regarding the cruel slaying of a woman because of her religeous choices and what do we get? Some airheads blithering on about a fudge shop in the area of Yorke where the pregnant woman was squeezed to death. PATHETIC !!
@nahg3204
@nahg3204 3 года назад
@@howler6490 mate stfu, Christians did it to Christians now stop crying about it
@EcoSpeeder
@EcoSpeeder 3 года назад
--- The demonic level of sadism here is not well sociologically addressed.
@TheRumbles13
@TheRumbles13 3 года назад
Demonic sadism is within us all. Don't blame dieties
@EcoSpeeder
@EcoSpeeder 3 года назад
@@TheRumbles13 -- speak for your kind.
@TheRumbles13
@TheRumbles13 3 года назад
@@EcoSpeeder lol
@EcoSpeeder
@EcoSpeeder 3 года назад
@@TheRumbles13 -- Not buying your sauce.
@ok-kk3ic
@ok-kk3ic 3 года назад
@@EcoSpeeder have you had a major stroke or something man?
@peashooter8228
@peashooter8228 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing this info
@lexingtonconcord8751
@lexingtonconcord8751 Год назад
Thank you for sharing this story. You are a gem, brother
@seanie002
@seanie002 3 года назад
Learnt all about this on a school trip to York in 1977. Brutal stuff.
@bonefetcherbrimley7740
@bonefetcherbrimley7740 3 года назад
Man this is heavy, poor Margaret, no one deserves that kind of end.
@umarabdullah5510
@umarabdullah5510 3 года назад
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. She should have kept her faith on the down low but instead she dared them to execute her.
@philmatthews3537
@philmatthews3537 3 года назад
There were far worse methods of execution, her death was far less gruesome than being hanged drawn and quartered. She could have been put into an iron maiden for a few days before being fed her own organs and then chopped into pieces. Those days were harsh but there are equally severe types of suffering inflicted on others today, such as being beheaded with a saw on tv in the name of religion.
@teejay5432
@teejay5432 3 года назад
Pun intended ?
@ChatWithHutch
@ChatWithHutch 3 года назад
Her hand was kept as a relic and is now in the Bar Convent in York (I saw it on a school trip once)
@gregr.9547
@gregr.9547 3 года назад
IDK, being disemboweled and quartered doesn’t sound to appealing either.
@9Apilot
@9Apilot 3 года назад
A strong argument for the US Bill of Rights.
@VinnyMartello
@VinnyMartello 3 года назад
Yeah, I love our constitution too. Government controlled religion... not a fan.
@naradaian
@naradaian 3 года назад
Where the death penalty continues
@9Apilot
@9Apilot 3 года назад
@@naradaian there is a difference. See 6th amendment. People still act in ways that death is wholly appropriate.. just without a sadistic public spectacle.
@DavidSmith-gj2dm
@DavidSmith-gj2dm 3 года назад
And how’s that working out ?!
@donquixote3927
@donquixote3927 3 года назад
@Dustin Echos : The US Bill of Rights was based on the English Bill of Rights 1688.
@MARKETMAN6789
@MARKETMAN6789 3 года назад
Thank you for an interesting video
@marysylvie2012
@marysylvie2012 3 года назад
Indeed, it was horrific. Thank you for the video.
@apb38
@apb38 3 года назад
If there is a Hell you know that place is full.
@juneroberts5305
@juneroberts5305 3 года назад
Hell is empty, and all the Devils are here... - W. Shakespeare One of my favourite quotes, because I believe it to be very true. :(
@joelbrooks3198
@joelbrooks3198 3 года назад
@@juneroberts5305 until judgment day
@billguyan9626
@billguyan9626 3 года назад
Henry VIII did not "champion protestantism". He retained all the catholic beliefs and practices. - all he did was to declare himself head of the church in England instead of the pope. However, this made it easier for English reformers to declare their opposition to papal doctrines.
@photo161
@photo161 3 года назад
__ Nice attempt at diminishing, in fact, whitewashing the gluttonous, rapacious, unprincipled dictator's fundamental role in initiating what became nothing less than a murderous genocide, a genocide of Catholics along with all such deniers of any of his prerogatives, ie, divorce on demand, owed to him as the founder and head of his new "church.". Whatever degree of independence you wish to ascribe to these "reformers" it was understood by them that he was to get anything and everything he wanted to get,... and so he did, and did so without objection.
@billguyan9626
@billguyan9626 3 года назад
@@photo161 Where's the "whitewashing"? I merely stated plain historical fact. I hold him in the highest contempt, as I do your reply.
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 3 года назад
@@photo161 Well done for ignoring the facts. EG Bloody Mary got that name for good reason. Also you seem to be forgetting that the RC's killed more than anyone. Inquisition anyone? Some put the number killed in the main inquisition in the millions. Also there were some changes starting to be implemented immediately on England's separation from Rome. For example Church Architecture. The Rude beams were removed almost immediately for example. I suggest actually studying the subject instead of "what my mate said down the pub". But then again that involves reading books.
@leehotspur9679
@leehotspur9679 3 года назад
As said above, Anglican Catholics
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 3 года назад
@@leehotspur9679 Actually that was your first comment on this thread.
@elizabethspedding1975
@elizabethspedding1975 3 года назад
Your channel is great.
@pb3254
@pb3254 3 года назад
Great narration!
@HungryGhost999
@HungryGhost999 3 года назад
Fascinating. Well worth subscribing. Thank you 🙏
@pauldharmer
@pauldharmer 3 года назад
My grandfather had said to me years ago, "I dont need a book to tell me whats right and wrong"
@jenniferholden9397
@jenniferholden9397 3 года назад
Well said Grandfather.
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 3 года назад
@Andy Jonnson Do you need a hug? He's agreeing with you. Try to calm down, pooch.
@gordon3186
@gordon3186 3 года назад
@Andy Jonnson --- Yeah. How would we know what do do without Deuteronomy 25:11,12? "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."
@Zumbs
@Zumbs 3 года назад
@John Milton Depending on what you label "morality", it is quite clear that traits such as honesty, helpfulness and caring about the well being of your fellow humans are *very* succesful when it comes to the survival of any group. While such traits may not extend to outsiders, most societies have come up with them on their own well before they developed writing. Right and wrong are usually easy, but things like religion and greed tend to bring out the worst in people.
@gordon3186
@gordon3186 3 года назад
@Andy Jonnson --- No. And I'm not willing to live by Bronze Age folklore from 4000 years ago either.
@godfreydaniel6278
@godfreydaniel6278 3 года назад
Irrational religious passions are the bane of civilization - everywhere...
@henrydevelopment
@henrydevelopment 3 года назад
Soon there will be the Covidians.
@Ezlivin
@Ezlivin 3 года назад
@@henrydevelopment The Covidians: Survivors of COVID-19 whose concerted efforts to stop the spread of the deadly virus led to widespread health measures which ultimately preserved civilization and is widely credited with restoring the prominence of science in the affairs of humanity.
@photo161
@photo161 3 года назад
@@Ezlivin The belief that human intervention or lack of same is the determining factor in the destructive consequences of this virulent coronavirus is in itself an example of the flagrant irrationality of superstition writ large. No, no politician can "control" this pandemic, sorry..It was fear of the virus, once its dangerous nature became undeniably evident to a majority of the public that lead to the voluntary adherence to guaranteeing measures and mask-wearing, distancing etc... not the advice, good or bad from any politician...
@williamchirgwin8754
@williamchirgwin8754 3 года назад
People are irrational, sometimes all they need is religious ideology to heighten such passions. I agree with your comment, and add, Margaret Clitherow was beyond a doubt insane, a mad person obsessed, the worst combination. She certainly did not deserve to die. I hope in western democracies we never see such cruelty again.
@pauldarlington5589
@pauldarlington5589 3 года назад
All civilisations were formed on the foundation of some form of religion which has consistently taken mankind from barbarity to enlightenment and back again to barbarity. The destruction of individual freedom to follow religious belief has always been the factor which destroys civilisation. Your irrational passion on this subject is far more disturbing to me. The terrors committed through ignorance echo throughout the ages.
@griffyn1741
@griffyn1741 3 года назад
Most interesting. Thank you.
@deesync7203
@deesync7203 3 года назад
First Video I've seen of you, your accent is just plain nobel, subscribed!
@locarnese5598
@locarnese5598 3 года назад
So nobel, in fact, he deserves a peace prize.
@skylar1751
@skylar1751 Год назад
It made me cry when I found out she was pregnant and had a husband and children, may Margaret and her family rest in peace.
@patrickmckeown3683
@patrickmckeown3683 3 года назад
This is a perfect example of why people are more and more disgusted by any religion. Jonestown comes to mind.
@FeedScrn
@FeedScrn 3 года назад
What about the religion of Liberalism?... and the censorship going on in social media? That's a religion as well.
@McCRBen
@McCRBen 3 года назад
And the English hierarchy gets off scot free ?
@Dentropolis
@Dentropolis 3 года назад
The Holocaust and BLM many claim are religions too.
@gibsongirl2100
@gibsongirl2100 3 года назад
The only thing wrong with organized religion is people. Jonestown was not a "religiion"; it was a cult led by a sadistic, narcissistic, psychopath. While you may want to draw parallels, there is a difference.
@mariosebastiani3214
@mariosebastiani3214 3 года назад
@@Dentropolis I've seen no sacred book of those "religions", nor prayers, nor clergy. Holocaust was a FACT, a horrible one, and BLM is a MOVEMENT.
@DaisyLee1963
@DaisyLee1963 3 года назад
Interesting and sad video. I'm glad I've subscribed to you. I'd not known much about the dark side of the English reformation. And your accent is so awesome! I love listening to you.
@marysharp9754
@marysharp9754 3 года назад
These people were not of Jesus
@kellymontgomery1293
@kellymontgomery1293 3 года назад
wow. thank you. i was not aware of this story.
@moogdome2562
@moogdome2562 3 года назад
The church has an evil history and peasant.The fact that the poor woman was carrying a child meant nothing. Glad I didn't live back then. I'd trust no one. Thank you for another interesting video.
@moogdome2562
@moogdome2562 3 года назад
@JZ's Best Friend All but one true religion.otherwise i agree. The trouble s caused mainly when they mix beliefs with politics, and use their believes to justify their actions as you said.The things you mention are horrific and not Godly, but in league with the devil.Man never learns.
@davidwoolbright2416
@davidwoolbright2416 3 года назад
The Catholic Church has plenty of horrific executions and poor treatment of people under their belt as well. Ever heard of the Spanish Inquisition?
@moogdome2562
@moogdome2562 3 года назад
@@davidwoolbright2416 Is that a Monty Python sketch?. The Spanish Inquisition?.Not as thick as you think friend. thank you. happy days.
@nozecone
@nozecone 3 года назад
@INVICTUS MANEO LOL! What the hell century are you living in - "HIS BASTARD DAUGHTER"?? Do you think anyone other than some deranged papist lunatic thinks less of Elizabeth - or anyone else - because she is a "BASTARD"?
@maddiewhatever441
@maddiewhatever441 3 года назад
what church are you talking about lmao? The Catholic church didn't do this, the Church of England did.
@davidjohanson7966
@davidjohanson7966 3 года назад
How was this Catholic martyr's death any more heinous and brutal than the protestant martyrs who suffered burning alive at the stake earlier in that same century?
@acheface
@acheface 3 года назад
No one has said it is.
@johnmurdoch3083
@johnmurdoch3083 3 года назад
Well because the proddies where heretics duh.
@MtnBoar
@MtnBoar 3 года назад
Deferirent time and the next ally down
@hgji7381
@hgji7381 3 года назад
The Protestant martyrs were traitors
@MtnBoar
@MtnBoar 3 года назад
@@hgji7381 :, I hear where you are coming from 🕷but the calthoics kinda killed the celts so I with the natives
@k9slayer
@k9slayer 3 года назад
great video, thanks
@rdelamadrid
@rdelamadrid 3 года назад
I cannot think of any one thing that has been the source of more human misery, suffering and death than organized religion.
@magdahearne497
@magdahearne497 3 года назад
Me neither!
@TKA322
@TKA322 3 года назад
I can, ............communism! Communism attacks and kills your own people, your own friends/family/neighbors, and by your own family/friends/neighbors. In Russia and China, millions died in both their revolutions. After civil wars Russia purged another 30 million and China purged another 60 million, then there are the smaller commie countries with mass killing fields. Communism has killed more of their own people then all the death in both world wars.
@rebelangel8227
@rebelangel8227 3 года назад
Its not religion its fundamentalism in its zealotry form...its when ideology is radically weaponized be it religion, politics, or culture this what happens when masses have been badly brainwashed by corrupted ideologies...
@petergregory7199
@petergregory7199 3 года назад
‘Religion’ per se, does not ‘do’ anything. It’s purely internal. The problems come with the way it’s expressed, used (or abused) and controlled. Each of which depends on non religious choices. As for ‘organised’, how many have suffered as a result of organised sport? Humans love cutting each other ‘down to size’. It’s how we make ourselves look bigger. Terrible as Mary’s fate was, it seems she knew what she was about. She drew the ire of authority upon herself, while protecting her family. Which is heroic. is it not? I don’t think she would have wanted onlookers from the future to feel her death was a condemnation of religion, organised or not.
@thomasewing2656
@thomasewing2656 3 года назад
Without religion, what would take it's place? Football?
@czror
@czror 3 года назад
When powerful religion and self-proclaimed law is more than love, respect, freedom, understanding.... Brave, strong woman... bad times.... I have not heard that before...
@tymac3306
@tymac3306 3 года назад
The background music is melancholy, sad, eerie all in one.
@bertiodvonrastenburger1129
@bertiodvonrastenburger1129 3 года назад
Yeah that really pissed me off I would though something a bit more jolly would have been better.
@ArkitektoHardinero
@ArkitektoHardinero 3 года назад
Oh my seemed unbelievable that such cruelty existed then. 😢 Love the content of this channel though!
@DutchFurnace
@DutchFurnace 3 года назад
"she was imprisoned for 2 years, but committed more crimes during her sentence, like learning latin and going on pilgrimage during the night to some other place". Rather lax prison wasn't it. That always makes me wonder. I mean, even in todays world, with dna and photos, it's often very difficult to find someone, and that's just considering the technology and not thinking about organizational powers of todays institutions. So how/why got people even get caught back in the day, and stay imprisoned? I mean she was allowed to leave her prison apparently, and could have just disappeared to the next village over and no one would have ever known who she was. It often sounds to me like people were a lot more "honest" back then. Or maybe "gullible" is the better word. Or maybe it's just their sense of the "long arm of the law" being able to reach them as well as we feel it can reach us now, or maybe it was even worse for them. That even though technically it would have been super easy for them to disappear, they felt like they couldn't.
@gangleweed
@gangleweed 3 года назад
You couldn't just disappear.......if you left your village you stood out like a sore thumb in any other village you wanted to go to as a stranger and travelling was a slow process if you were on foot without money or food.
@l34l
@l34l 3 года назад
People had a different set of moral parameters to abide by.
@raygordonteacheschess5501
@raygordonteacheschess5501 3 года назад
Back then you couldn't get goods and services without actually dealing with someone.
@birgittabirgersdatter8082
@birgittabirgersdatter8082 3 года назад
@@l34l not different, just stricter.
@l34l
@l34l 3 года назад
@@birgittabirgersdatter8082 Nowadays there is no intrinsic code of conduct at all, just what is legal and what's illegal, and if you don't get caught, then "it never happened". I'm talking about the broader scope, the vast majority, not the ideal, ideally yes, the set is still preserved, but from a pragmatic point of view, there isn't a relatable backbone that connects the moral that was enforced then with the one that is dictated by "common sense" today.
@tonywalker3113
@tonywalker3113 3 года назад
Wow we can be so evil and abhorrent ! Poor Margaret RIP.
@joshuaowens4011
@joshuaowens4011 Год назад
i dont think u people understad how it was back then
@theresareynolds3133
@theresareynolds3133 3 года назад
I was baptized Catholic and as soon as I was old enough I left the church,to me religion is a fancy word for cult
@keithsimpson3078
@keithsimpson3078 3 года назад
AND I AM THE SAME. I ENTERED INTO A SEMINARY AT 14 TO TRAIN TO BE A PRIEST BUT I ASKED TOO MANY QUESTIONS AND WAS ALWAYS TOLD "IT IS A MATTER OF FAITH. PRAY FOR THE GIFT OF FAITH AND BELIEVE." RUBBISH. I LEFT THE SEMINARY AT 18 AND HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A CHURCH SINCE; THAT WAS 1959. CATHOLICI$$M AND A££ RE££IGION JUST ONE BIG EXERCI$$E IN PEOP££E CONTROL AND EXTORTION........ [..Sorry I did not think of it, religion, that is.....hahahah!!!...] Keith MANCHESTER
@ProgrammedForDamage
@ProgrammedForDamage 3 года назад
Religion is flawed because man is flawed.
@Jack-yf9bc
@Jack-yf9bc 3 года назад
As a religious person, fair point, I don’t blame you for leaving.
@isaachunt7107
@isaachunt7107 3 года назад
This method of torture/execution is where we get the phrase "I must press you for an answer"!
@lindsayheyes925
@lindsayheyes925 3 года назад
Indeed. The punishment was not murder as stated in the video, nor was she condemned by the church as some have alleged above. It was judicial killing by the state. "The Press" was the usual punishment for failing to enter a plea ("guilty"/"not guilty"). The Press was endured by many victims because to plead guilty to harbouring a priest at that time would be punished by forfeiture of property and death - so your family would be turned out into the streets and probably starve to death. The rock under her back was considered a mercy, hastening death, and it was common for members of the victim's family to add their own weight to the press - again as a mercy. The mindset of the time was that condemning someone to death could not be wrong, even if you were innocent - and a child could be hanged for stealing a liaf if bread
@isaachunt7107
@isaachunt7107 3 года назад
@@lindsayheyes925 Life was certainly very cheap back then!
@lindsayheyes925
@lindsayheyes925 3 года назад
How could an incorrect conviction not be wrong? Well that's where religion was the problem: If you were guilty, it was right that you would be executed. If you were innocent, God would take you in His care after death - so execution was pretty much guilt-free. The pain and shame of execution were the deterrent part of the sentence. When people complain about how slaves were treated, it should be remembered that this "bloody code" applied to most criminals until the late 1820s in England, but was increasingly considered inhumane, although thousands would turn out to watch a public hanging. It ended around the time my Great Great Grandfather stole some sheep. He was condemned to death at the age of 17, but his sentence was commuted to transportation for life with penal servitude. He got parole to return to England after 11 years living in hulked ships, having learned the trade of butcher. It is ironic that his "servitude" was building the Bermuda Dockyard - under the bullwhip and the ever-present threat of lashing or hanging for even a minor offence - for the War Against the Slave Trade. Ironic too, that he eventually lived just around the corner from public executions at Old Bailey, and supplied Newgate Gaol with meat. We have come a long way - but we took our time about it.
@keithsimpson3078
@keithsimpson3078 3 года назад
@@isaachunt7107 EH...? YOUR NAME...? YOU'RE JOKIN'...!! YOUR NAME CANNOT POSSIBLY BE THAT.....hahhahaahah... I LIKE IT........................... .....................................................LOTS....! Keith MANCHESTER
@cx2900
@cx2900 3 года назад
here's another little etymological tidbit about executions: the word "excruciating", as in excruciating pain, comes from the latin "ex crux", or from the cross. an execution method so painful they made up a new word to describe it!
@shannonbloom4133
@shannonbloom4133 3 года назад
History has shown that millions have died in the name of one god or another down through the ages. As if humans needed an excuse to maim, torture and kill each other, but their beliefs in gods, religions and churches seem to afford a universal reason.
@MrHeesbeen
@MrHeesbeen 3 года назад
Yes Shannon, it was done in the name of God, but performed by people who didn`t embrace any form of Christianity. It was caused chiefly by Henry V111 through a fit of pique, because the Catholic Church wouldn`t allow him to divorce for the reasons that he wanted. So he broke away from Rome, formed his own church that allowed himself to be its head and under the pretence of being Christian, incorporated a systematic easing of principles that didn`t obstruct his immoral lifestyle. Thank Heaven that the Anglican Church is not like that now. In any culture, there will always be people who have a blood lust to kill or torture others and if they can do this with state approval and get paid for it, then there will be no shortage of volunteers. Social standards would not prevent this if, say, there was another reformation in this the 21st century.
@blackholeentry3489
@blackholeentry3489 3 года назад
@@MrHeesbeen I have long contended religion and ignorance coexist hand in hand.
@unclenogbad1509
@unclenogbad1509 3 года назад
Or more commonly, different interpretations of the same god.
@blackholeentry3489
@blackholeentry3489 3 года назад
@@unclenogbad1509 Even more common.....Fervent belief in a non-existent god.
@user-bg2oi4bz3p
@user-bg2oi4bz3p 3 года назад
Death by Government, political scientist R. J. Rummel, University of Hawaii. 262 Million disarmed citizens murdered by their own government in the past century alone. Six times as many defenseless people have been murdered by their own governments than have died in all wars.
@Trianglewitch.
@Trianglewitch. 3 года назад
If Queen Elizabeth 1st thought the way the treated her was so bad, why didn't she have all who were involved arrested? She wasn't much of a leader.
@joselugo4536
@joselugo4536 3 года назад
The lead & mercury on her face poisoned her brain, besides its uglification consequences.
@Eza_yuta
@Eza_yuta 3 года назад
She only beame "leader" when the treats are onto her.
@freeatlast.
@freeatlast. 3 года назад
Possibly because politics beats religion.
@anglewoden
@anglewoden 3 года назад
Elizabeth I was a heroine and a brilliant leader even though she could not leave England as all the RC's of Europe were out to assassinate her. She was also put in the Tower by the catholics because of her beliefs. Could you imagine waking up each day not knowing if you are going to see the next one? She was hugely intelligent and tried to be fair, in Religion too, in her decisions but under the threat of constant Assassination she also had to be ruthless at times which she was in some cases.
@stephenphillips4984
@stephenphillips4984 3 года назад
She was a well-loved leader but could not intervene in a legal process because it would have made her unpopular and invited opposition.
@Longtack55
@Longtack55 3 года назад
Just lovely - she refused to plead so that her children would not be tortured. And that supports my life-long Atheism of 67 years. God of Mercy and love as shown by his loving servants. My arse!
@keithlucas6260
@keithlucas6260 3 года назад
So your whole stance is based on zealots who for the most part were probably possessed by the devil (see the book, The devil in Massachusetts). Furthermore your argument is called at the University level in logical discourse fallacies, "ad ignorantum".....and in case you missed it goes like this, "since you cannot prove God exists, therefore He doesn't." As one Dr. of Philosophy put it, "pretty lame ass argument to base one's eternity on."
@deadhorse1391
@deadhorse1391 3 года назад
In the Salem Witch trials Giles Corey refused to plea not guilty or guilty and was pressed to death over a period of 3 days using heavy rocks. A hard case when they removed the rocks to ask him to plea he said “ more weight” The sheriff obliged him and put on more stones and even stood on them. When Corey’s tongue popped out the Sheriff pushed it back in with a stick Since he refused to plead he died in possession of his estate which he could pass on to his children
@kelvyquayo
@kelvyquayo 3 года назад
His grave can still be visited along with others from that time.
@harryarcher4971
@harryarcher4971 3 года назад
An amazing story I love history.. and been to York many time exploring history.. but not shure I’ve heard this one .. but I have now 👍🇬🇧
@TheUntoldPast
@TheUntoldPast 3 года назад
Thanks :) I need to revisit York sometime soon when I can do. Lovely city.
@harryarcher4971
@harryarcher4971 3 года назад
@@TheUntoldPast yes must go lots to do there .. Vicking history all sorts of story’s 👍
@kevinbrumley6597
@kevinbrumley6597 3 года назад
I am proud of her, for standing strong against wicked people. I know that God welcomed he into his kingdom because of her faith and bravery standing for the truth.
@CherryLipgloss1000
@CherryLipgloss1000 3 года назад
Absolutely horrific. I cannot get my head around how barbaric this is.
@keegan773
@keegan773 3 года назад
CherryLipgloss1000 Look up The Inquisition.
@exquisitearangement
@exquisitearangement 3 года назад
Really. The sharp stone spine trick is going too far for sure.
@ibelieveicansoar
@ibelieveicansoar 3 года назад
Then you probably shouldn’t look up the method of torturous death invented by Nelson Mandela and his wife Winnie, called necklacing. (It involves a tire, gasoline, and a match.)
@tesmith47
@tesmith47 3 года назад
@@ibelieveicansoar you lie, you are a white colonist. That treatment was for spies and traitors in the African liberation movement
@alexlorda394
@alexlorda394 3 года назад
"pressing" was a common form of torture at the time. it was prescribed for people that protested/resisted the corruption of the legal process by refusing to plea or to speak at their trial. a small inaccuracy here though, they didn't put a large weight on the person all at once, but put small weights on one at a time till the person agreed to cooperate or was crushed.
@dukethomas95
@dukethomas95 3 года назад
I think that's what the narrator mean, 800 lbs in total, not all at once.
@williamphillips6049
@williamphillips6049 3 года назад
Yes, very cruel. No doubt just as cruel as Mary's burning Protestants at stakes.
@sabi2121
@sabi2121 3 года назад
They are both horrible. No need to compare
@64dexta
@64dexta 3 года назад
When I was a wee feller of maybe eight years old my sister was due to start school at the Bar Convent just outside Mickelgate Bar York. Anyway the whole brood of us got a bit of a tour round the place by the nuns. At one bit they took us in a room and opened a big old display cupboard, it housed a lot of holy relics. One item was a wizendy auld brown hand on a wooden stand with a glass dome over it, as I remember. The nun informed us it had belonged to the afore mentioned Margaret Clitherow. At that time she wasn't a saint like but just in the waiting room, so to speak, busying herself being one of the fourty marters of the day. The auld nun told us the story about her getting squished under the door but she also said it was rocks they piled on it to do the deed. Also she said that they had dragged her round the streets and that's how her hand had come off. Now me being a shy sort at that time, I didn't have the balls to ask if yer woman had been alive or dead when this had happened, but I really wanted to know. It was a creepy old experience and it also made me wonder what da fek were these women thinking off, hanging onto bits of dead folk and God knows what! I know it was a crap way to check out for Mrs Clitherow but that auld idolitry and relic worship is as wierd as it comes. I hope they don't go showing the young un's of today, poor little snowflakes would have post traumatic stress!
@vondantalingting
@vondantalingting 3 года назад
The more the reason to show it to them. They're numerous but they lacked a back bone.
@Warmanmx
@Warmanmx 3 года назад
so we are to believe, that in a city , that literally killed people based on religious beliefs, someone took the hand , carefully cared for it so it wouldnt rot and decay, passed such hand for generations and generations in the off chance that 5 centuries later she might be cannonized? yeah ,,, not buying it
@64dexta
@64dexta 3 года назад
@@Warmanmx buy it or not, I'm not botherd one way or another. The Catholics are renowned for saving odd bits of deceased people and worshiping those relics. They also encapsulate relics within alters in the belief it somehow bestows extra holyness on them. It's all idolitry in my mind and I'll stick to what I know best, that is scientific facts. Good luck!
@paulwood6729
@paulwood6729 3 года назад
Go to Drogheda cathedral. They pickled a chaps head and put it on display. Every altar has a relic, a bone, of a saint in it.
@64dexta
@64dexta 3 года назад
Aye that's yer man Oliver Plunket. It's traditional to say Hi to da head when you drive by! Haha, good luck!
@andrewharper1609
@andrewharper1609 3 года назад
As a resident of York this was a part of local history I was unaware of. You might be interested in the burning of the local News in Clifford's Tower.
@lamp-stand575
@lamp-stand575 3 года назад
I'd like to see a follow-up video on Mary I (aka Bloody Mary) of England.
@HumanLiberty
@HumanLiberty 3 года назад
That is certainly a horrific death, and she is certainly an incredibly brave, faithful, and heroic martyr. But that method of torture/execution was downright gentle compared to the monsters things they had dreamed up at that time. 15 minutes? They could’ve kept her going for hours or days.
@marcuskurze9759
@marcuskurze9759 3 года назад
Yeah just ask William Wallace some centuries before right?
@Soul-OnFire
@Soul-OnFire 3 года назад
Yup!
@corsomagenta
@corsomagenta 3 года назад
she died in a candy store compared to how many of the Bolsheviks' victims died. People being wrapped to trees and poles with their own intestines and left there to slowly die.
@theS4V0Y
@theS4V0Y 3 года назад
The Impaler has entered the chat. Hehe
@jimdavis8391
@jimdavis8391 3 года назад
... See also the Chinese death of a thousand cuts.
@marinapeache3113
@marinapeache3113 3 года назад
I love this channel I'm interested in History I watched the Tudors and loved it such a great cast the torture and execution scenes were horrific but this is what happened during Tudor times. What a terrible execution she had pregnant crushed to death very sad💔
@shawolarmyatiny
@shawolarmyatiny 3 года назад
@Marina Peache if u r interested in history the last thing you should do is watch The Tudors cos even though it’s a great tv show it is so historically inaccurate.
@marinapeache3113
@marinapeache3113 3 года назад
@@shawolarmyatiny hi yes Ur right the Women didn't look groomed and beautiful like the cast of the Tudors the men didn't look like that at all short neat hair well shaven faces and Henry V111 was red haired and fat whereas Jonothan Rhys is nothing like that.😀
@sparked3113
@sparked3113 3 года назад
This sort of barbarism is still going on today.
@HistoryGe3k
@HistoryGe3k 3 года назад
Yes, I agree. It is called Islam....
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 3 года назад
Antifa , sorry,- Fa, would also happily be doing this sort of thing too if they could get away with it.
@HistoryGe3k
@HistoryGe3k 3 года назад
@@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus - I do not understand your comment. What is -Fa ?
@madcow9421
@madcow9421 3 года назад
johnwilsonqld I believe the F is capitalised in AntiFa so not Antifa... or most accurately Anti - Fa
@asnowballinhell
@asnowballinhell 3 года назад
@@HistoryGe3k They learned from the best.
@carljones1498
@carljones1498 3 года назад
Shambles is probably the most historic thing in York right now
@briansmith9439
@briansmith9439 3 года назад
Watching a second time brought up a question. In my studies of the Tudor period my understanding is that Henry VIII troubles with the Roman Catholic Church were not doctrinal but procedural - he wanted a divorce and the Pope said no. His break with the Church was to make him the leader of the Church - basically the Pope of his own church so he could grant himself the divorce he wanted. The Church he created was the English Catholic Church (which still survives to this day) not the Anglican Church. The dissolution of the monasteries was, in theory, to combat the corruption that was supposedly rampant in them but I don't think there's ever been any solid research into this to support or deny the alleged reason given for their dissolution. The amount of $$$$$ the treasury took in had absolutely nothing to do with it, I'm sure. The 1000s of acres of land that became Henry's didn't move him one way or the other - didn't the Church own something like a third of the land in England at that time? Of course, that devasted the only source of public assistance available in most of the country and Henry was not about to spend any money he pilfered for the good of the public - no food, no clothing, no lodging - another research paper could be to look at the number of deaths caused by the dissolution. The Anglican Church came about due to his son Edward and daughter Elizabeth (or Bloody Bess as I like to call her) and their adoption of the Protestant service for the Church.
@sandrastreifel6452
@sandrastreifel6452 3 года назад
I don’t think Henry VIII’s establishment of the Anglican Church could have occurred, except at the time of the Reformation. While Anglicanism may not strictly be classified as Protestantism, other Protestant denominations in Britain flourished since the Reformation!
@wekapeka3493
@wekapeka3493 3 года назад
My understanding is that he wanted an annulment rather than a divorce. He had married his brothers widow which was not permissible by church rules but consent had been granted when Henry paid a huge sum to the church. He thought another payment would have secured an annulment but European politics between the pope and Spain meant consent was withheld.
@kevinshort3943
@kevinshort3943 3 года назад
“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg
@kevinshort3943
@kevinshort3943 3 года назад
@BruderShaft1 But it isn't, is it. There are laws, morals, ethics etc ................
@NijntjeMegen
@NijntjeMegen 3 года назад
@BruderShaft1 Science created civilisation. Religion only ever held it back.
@LeoH3L1
@LeoH3L1 3 года назад
@BruderShaft1 Just because it wasn't called the scientific method back then doesn't mean it didn't exist.
@LeoH3L1
@LeoH3L1 3 года назад
@BruderShaft1 Well you don't build the ancient monuments without learning what does and doesn't work, and that's what science is... a tool/method of learning that when you get right down to it. People have been experimenting with ideas, keeping the good ones, rejecting the bad ones once proven to be bad, since there have been people, we just call that process "science".
@Blaqjaqshellaq
@Blaqjaqshellaq 3 года назад
Patriotism can also make the good do evil...
@davidmiller8905
@davidmiller8905 3 года назад
This was not intended as a form of execution. It was intended to force a plea from the accused. If the accused died under this pressure then the accused would not be convicted of felony and would not thus have his/her property forfeit to the crown. A way of not leaving the accused's family destitute. The procedure was known as "peine forte et dure.
@beatyea5711
@beatyea5711 3 года назад
that makes sense. I appreciate your comment- there's always more I learn.😁🤗
@tesmith47
@tesmith47 3 года назад
Always about the property!
@peterlewerin4213
@peterlewerin4213 3 года назад
Also, her children and husband would be forced to testify if there was a trial. And in the 16th century, that meant that they would be tortured, ostensibly to ensure that they wouldn't be tempted to lie.
@Bakkiepleuah
@Bakkiepleuah 3 года назад
5:45 actual execution story
@charlottejohnson761
@charlottejohnson761 3 года назад
Omg poor poor lady this is just awful it doesn’t matter what bloody religion you follow that’s barbaric and inhuman
@sylviaklages6871
@sylviaklages6871 3 года назад
The protestant King James English translation of the Bible was published in 1611. The catholic Rheims English translation was published in 1582. So, the Catholics were reading scripture in English for 29 years before the protestants got to read it in English. What exactly were the protestants complaining about?
@helenbritton3977
@helenbritton3977 3 года назад
I went to that little church and read the history on her. Tragic, absolutely horrible way to die.
@sgauden02
@sgauden02 3 года назад
This makes me think of the scene in Game Of Thrones where Davos confronts Melisandre for burning Shireen Baratheon at the stake as a sacrifice to the lord of light. DAVOS: "You burned a little girl alive!" MELISANDRE: "I only do what my Lord commands!" DAVOS: "If he commands you to burn children, your Lord is EVIL!"
@tsopmocful1958
@tsopmocful1958 3 года назад
We often take secularism for granted and the centuries of painful struggle it took to achieve it. We also forget how new, fragile and uncommon it is.
@ireneuszpyc6684
@ireneuszpyc6684 3 года назад
because smart people are new, fragile & uncommon: that's why secularism is the same way
@aafgahfah
@aafgahfah 3 года назад
Yes, and therefore we in the west must not give in to the demands of Muslims that they be treated as some kind of special case.
@richardlloyd2589
@richardlloyd2589 3 года назад
Communism is secular. How’s that working out for human rights?
@aafgahfah
@aafgahfah 3 года назад
@@richardlloyd2589 communism may not involve god but it is founded on unverifiable and unfalsifiable assertions and works just like a religion.
@tsopmocful1958
@tsopmocful1958 3 года назад
@@richardlloyd2589The word 'secular' can be confusing, because it has often been used as the antonym of the word 'religious', and so has been regarded by many as just a synonym of the terms 'irreligious' or 'non religious'. This is a perfectly valid use of the word in the right context, and it may explain why you think that communism is a secular system. But the 'non religious' aspect of secularism is only a small part of its broader definition. Secularism emerged from Humanism, and is based upon the idea that people should be free as individuals, as long as that freedom doesn't restrict or impinge upon the freedom of other people. The eight basic secular freedoms are the freedom of thought, agency, expression, speech, inquiry, association, enterprise and belief (which includes freedom FROM belief as well). So I'll let you work out whether communism is secular or not.
@wynnyekey5316
@wynnyekey5316 3 года назад
Sounds like Giles Cory in Salem, Massachusetts in US.
@gilgameshofuruk4060
@gilgameshofuruk4060 3 года назад
It was a popular way of obtaining confessions.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 3 года назад
My ancestors included Spanish Jews persecuted by Catholics, Swiss Anabaptists persecuted by Calvinists, English Baptists persecuted by C of E, Irish Catholics persecuted by English Protestants and French Protestants (Huguenots) persecuted by Catholics....no wonder I’m a Zen Buddhist.
@maddiewhatever441
@maddiewhatever441 3 года назад
As a Catholic, I grew up knowing these stories of persecution, but not specifically this one. Sad, but interesting to hear of another saint.
@BillSikes.
@BillSikes. 3 года назад
This kind of execution still happens in Islamic countries
@BillPalmer
@BillPalmer 3 года назад
It’s still 1450 there.
@alisonholland7531
@alisonholland7531 3 года назад
Which countries?
@Danxethenightaway
@Danxethenightaway 3 года назад
Saudi Arabia
@TheBushdoctor68
@TheBushdoctor68 3 года назад
Total BS.
@MrTangolizard
@MrTangolizard 3 года назад
@@TheBushdoctor68 no it’s not go to the countryside in Yemen or Afghanistan and you can see the way they act
@TheClippa1
@TheClippa1 3 года назад
Called themselves civilized. I will pay my respects to Margaret next time I'm in York.
@jesserivas1387
@jesserivas1387 3 года назад
God bless her and all those who died for the Roman Catholic Church!
@bill5328
@bill5328 3 года назад
And all those who died under Bloody Mary's disgraceful rule. Henry V111, Mary1 and Elizabeth1, should have the bodies buried in a ditch.
@sandrastreifel6452
@sandrastreifel6452 3 года назад
This Catholic’s martyrdom was so horrific, even Queen Elizabeth was appalled, and criticized it!!!
@netrolancer1061
@netrolancer1061 3 года назад
And yet she did very little to resolve it.
@xtusvincit5230
@xtusvincit5230 3 года назад
@Repeat After Me: Yes, a horrible Catholic conspiracy called freedom of worship.
@joselugo4536
@joselugo4536 3 года назад
Blame the victim. There was more people sentenced to death by Elizabeth I of England, and Henry VIII, than in 3 centuries of Spanish Inquisition.
@sandrastreifel6452
@sandrastreifel6452 3 года назад
@@netrolancer1061: It had already occurred when Her Majesty learned of it. All she could do, was criticize what had happened.
@sandrastreifel6452
@sandrastreifel6452 3 года назад
@@joselugo4536 And the USA is the only developed country in the world, still executing criminals today. The Spanish Inquisition can’t be justified by British executions! Have you heard: “two wrongs don’t make a right”?
@John-ym9ht
@John-ym9ht 3 года назад
This is what happens when there is not freedom of religion. It's scary to see how people who don't fit the overall accepted views are ostracized, fired from there jobs and attacked verbally and even physically in recent times. Of course, it's done in the name of progress just like it was in Margaret's time.
@adeleennis2255
@adeleennis2255 3 года назад
Happens all the time. I do not put anything atheistic on my car because good Christians have slashed tires, smashed windows, and damaged paint jobs of some of my atheist friends just for sporting symbols or bumper stickers about atheism. Funny that I don’t know atheists who feel the same need to damage the property of the visibly devout.
@MM-pj4bl
@MM-pj4bl 3 года назад
Saint Margaret Clitherow, pray for us!
@firefly59
@firefly59 3 года назад
Pray to God, not to people
@stephenpmurphy591
@stephenpmurphy591 3 года назад
@@firefly59 Praying to dead people is idotary, praying to a living person is idotary. Pray to God.
@mamavswild
@mamavswild 3 года назад
@@stephenpmurphy591 I’ll pray to whoever the FK I want you don’t get to tell me ‘The Truth’. That’s the entire point of history lessons like this!!
@stephenpmurphy591
@stephenpmurphy591 3 года назад
@@mamavswild Odd how you take a simple comment so personally. That's usually the hallmark of a maglinant narcissist.
@Jkdextro
@Jkdextro 3 года назад
Psalm 116:15 "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints"
@icm3523
@icm3523 3 года назад
...To which he permits and does nothing to prevent. Jk... Saints are as real as your god.
@slavyktello6080
@slavyktello6080 3 года назад
Is that valid from the Protestant or catholic perspective?
@stephenclark6236
@stephenclark6236 3 года назад
The implications of that verse are horrific no matter how you look at it.
@glynnwright1699
@glynnwright1699 3 года назад
The last pressing to death 'execution' is claimed by Horsham, in Sussex, in 1735. By entering a plea, the state could confiscate the possessions of the felon. The fellow, who was a murderer by all accounts, wanted to deny the state his house, even under the duress of being pressed. Horsham was not a good place to commit a crime, the last burning at the stake was 1776, the last hanging was in1845, the year before the gaol closed.
@charliebowen5071
@charliebowen5071 3 года назад
Where did you get this information..... the last hanging where?? Hanging continued regularly after 1845...
@glynnwright1699
@glynnwright1699 3 года назад
@@charliebowen5071 The sentence references Horsham.
@charliebowen5071
@charliebowen5071 3 года назад
@@glynnwright1699 apologies.... after re reading its apparent..
@kenanacampora
@kenanacampora 3 года назад
Gaol=jail to the rest of us.
@glynnwright1699
@glynnwright1699 3 года назад
@@kenanacampora It would have been referred to as 'gaol' at the time it existed, the form of spelling being preferred until the 1850s.
@stikndip
@stikndip 3 года назад
I felt Mary’s pain listening to this droning monotone. 😩
@spiroketal7024
@spiroketal7024 3 года назад
One minor point of contention...dhe would have *honoured* the saints, not worshipped them as that is reserved for God, alone. A common misconception.
@spectrum10
@spectrum10 3 года назад
God worships the saints?
@quentinquentin6752
@quentinquentin6752 3 года назад
Yes I noticed the same mistake but decided to let it pass. Worship, is reserved for God alone. Saints are venerated.
@andyb.1026
@andyb.1026 3 года назад
Which God ?
@beatlesrgear
@beatlesrgear 3 года назад
@@quentinquentin6752 This is not true. Roman Catholics pray to the "saints" which is worship. What ever you pray to, be it a snake, a cow, or a person, etc., you are actually worshipping.
@quentinquentin6752
@quentinquentin6752 3 года назад
@@beatlesrgear that’s not true. Prayer is absolutely NOT the same as worship. Prayer is communication, its a conversation, its not worship. Don’t believe me, just go look up the definition yourself or do you also wish to re-write the dictionary to conform to your weak understanding of English ?
@jeffreysoreff9588
@jeffreysoreff9588 3 года назад
Good video! Was Margaret's pressing a direct precedent for Giles's pressing at Salem in 1692? The law can be weighty...
@dianebrady6784
@dianebrady6784 3 года назад
Yes...Giles was pressed due to this type of law....
@KempSimon
@KempSimon 3 года назад
Any defendant who refused to enter a plea at their trial in Early Modern England was liable to be pressed with stones upon the chest until they either entered a plea, or were crushed to death. But if they died without entering a plea, they died innocent in the eyes of the Law and their property could not be confiscated by the State, meaning that their spouse and children would not be rendered homeless and penniless. "Pressing with stones upon the chest" was NOT a method of execution. A Trial by Jury could not go ahead until a defendant had pleaded Yea or Nay to the charge(s). So it's lucky that King Charles I didn't suffer a similar fate!
@tingtong8781
@tingtong8781 3 года назад
As an atheist, I am surprised there was no mention of the 300 Protestant martyrs murdered by Bloody Mary.
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 3 года назад
Or the fact that the Inquisition killed millions. But then again most here have studied neither history nor theology at any advanced level never mind degree level.
@Goodkidjr43
@Goodkidjr43 3 года назад
@@gordonlawrence1448 False. a few thousand were executed over hundreds of years. The atheists, Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot murdered tens of millions of people in less than a century.
@Goodkidjr43
@Goodkidjr43 3 года назад
Elizabeth killed tens of thousands.
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 3 года назад
@@Goodkidjr43 You need to read something more reliable than Wiki and learn to do some academic critical engagement. The siege of Toulouse and the Cathar Heresy is often included and that killed in excess of 50,000. It also depends on how you define inquisition. Even if you use the strictest meaning there were several. If you loosen it up a bit to include any situation where many people were killed due to "heresy" then you have to include Toulouse (2 of the three sieges) and many others. Oddly the Hundred years war which is blamed on the RC's isnt, It was a Hapsburgh issue.
@prismstudios001
@prismstudios001 3 года назад
Fix me one,I could use a drink right now.
@Packless1
@Packless1 3 года назад
...the veneer of civilization is rather thin...! :-(
@McCRBen
@McCRBen 3 года назад
Levels of technology and status in a culture does not separate the civilised from the savage.
@lpm67
@lpm67 3 года назад
So they didn't just kill one person that day but also a baby .. terrible
@rep3e4
@rep3e4 3 года назад
Unborn babies don’t have any value these days, our sad society
@292Nigel
@292Nigel 3 года назад
And all in the name of religion! It just shows how any ideology, be it religious or political can be taken to extremes. Barbaric stuff indeed.
@jamsaidemelo1367
@jamsaidemelo1367 3 года назад
@@rep3e4 this didn't happen "this day". Abortion was practiced many centuries ago, as well as killing a baby shortly after birth. People tend to idolize past episode due to lack of knowledge, just like judging other people.
@iphonemodDOTcom
@iphonemodDOTcom 3 года назад
Little Jimmy was heartbroken.
@292Nigel
@292Nigel 3 года назад
@@iphonemodDOTcom Hysterically funny! You'd make a great comedy script writer. You've even named yourself after a legendary cowboy! Genius.
@Angrybogan
@Angrybogan 3 года назад
Does anyone condemn Henry VIII for putting himself in charge of the church, so that he could do what he wanted with his sex life?
@Anarchsis
@Anarchsis 3 года назад
Yes, me! Heretic and megalomaniac.
@chestermosburger3113
@chestermosburger3113 3 года назад
the original Brexit
@jamesmnaylor
@jamesmnaylor 3 года назад
Yep, Luther said there should be no head of the church but god himself. Henry viii hold my ale.
@NBportofino
@NBportofino 3 года назад
I do
@bernicecanty721
@bernicecanty721 3 года назад
Yes it's called the Catholic Church. Henry became protestant and head of that "church".
@tbac6308
@tbac6308 3 года назад
new subscriber 👍👍👍👍
@christianpatriot7439
@christianpatriot7439 3 года назад
At the start of the Tudor Period the Church of Rome owned around 1/3 of all the land in England. Henry's divorce from Aragon was the first Brexit and was too long in coming.
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