The HORRIFIC Execution Of Sir Thomas More - Henry VIII's Chancellor 

Agreed!

True.

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I've always wondered what type of mental illness he had.

Id wonder would you have said it to him

We have the skeleton of Richard III, and he did have very severe scoliosis that has badly deformed his spine, though

The severe curvature would have caused one shoulder to be a bit higher than the other.

If Thomas Moore did write the biography of Richard lll, it is very likely that he was heavily influenced by the Bishop of Ely, with whom he lived for several years as a youth. As it was not completed, some historians posit that it was actually written by the Bishop of Ely. The Bishop of Ely was not a fan of Richard lll, as Richard thought him corrupt and thought he was corrupting his brother, Edward lV.

Thanks Christian!

Thanks James.

Sure, protestants were full of love 💕

@@victoriacastro1729 Yes the protestants were almost as bad.

The Protestants were as bad up through James II

Well said, about the Pope and Thomas More. He's one of my favourite saints, there's absolutely no evidence of him torturing or killing people. I've unsubscribed from this channel for being so historically inaccurate.

Some of what you said was OK, but, come one now. You don't think there were individuals in England thinking that the Reformation was a good thing? The Protestant Reformation in England cannot be solely attributed to Henry VIII. While Henry VIII's desire for an annulment of his marriage to Catherine of Aragon played a significant role in the break with the Roman Catholic Church, there were other factors that contributed to the rise of Protestantism in England: Renaissance Ideas: The intellectual and cultural changes of the Renaissance brought about a renewed interest in classical learning and a questioning of established religious practices. Criticism of Church Corruption: There was growing discontent with the corruption and perceived abuses within the Catholic Church, including the sale of indulgences and the wealth and power of the clergy. Influence of Protestant Ideas: Protestant ideas, spread by reformers such as Martin Luther and John Calvin, found their way to England and gained traction among certain circles, including scholars and merchants. Political Motivations: Henry VIII sought greater control over the Church in England and saw an opportunity to consolidate his power and break away from papal authority. Suppression of Monasteries: As part of his break with Rome, Henry VIII dissolved the monasteries and seized their lands, which helped to weaken the influence of the Catholic Church and transfer wealth to the crown. Successor Monarchs: Henry VIII's reign was followed by the Protestant rule of his son Edward VI and his daughter Elizabeth I, who played significant roles in shaping and solidifying Protestantism in England. It's important to note that the religious landscape of England during this period was complex and involved various religious factions, including Catholics, Protestants, and those who held more moderate or diverse beliefs. The English Reformation was a multifaceted process influenced by a combination of political, social, intellectual, and religious factors.

Haha!! I think the same thing. But I don’t mind.

Thanks

There was a belief in Medieval times that peasants were *unable* to tell the truth unless tortured. That's a handy belief for tyrants.

@@veramae4098 That was slaves in Ancient Rome. It has precisely nothing to do with the literate gentlemen tortured by Thomas Moore in the Early Modern period.

I always had favorable feelings toward Thomas More and felt his beheading was thoroughly unnecessary. I had not known he blocked Martin Luther's writings and executed what would later be called "Lutherans". As a follower of Martin Luther, I was shocked he tortured and killed these persons. I still honor him for his faithful beliefs but see things somewhat differently since watching this.

Don't forget me tortured people in the name of his so-called faith and principles

Do not forget that Thomas Moore executed a lot of protestants and a tortured many of them including children....

@@paoloviti6156 You cannot see Thomas More with the 21st century eyes. He truly believed he is saving the souls of the heretics, so they won´t end up in hell. He sent like 7 people to the stake, which is awful (but see above) far less than most people think. He didn´t torture children.

@@blackcat2628zd of course I see Thomas Moore in a modern way but he did send quite more than a few "heretics" on stake. Basically he was very controversial in order to put him to sainthood and many have been more critical, such as Richard Marius, an American scholar of the Reformation, believing that such persecutions were a betrayal of More's earlier humanist convictions, including More's zealous and well-documented advocacy of extermination for Protestants. He not at all a Saint....

@@paoloviti6156 I didn't say he is saint. I am not qualified to judge this. Yes, he was a bit controversial. He was a pain in a.. for many people because of his moral and intellectual superiority. He was misunderstood because of his wicked sense of humour, often people didn't know if he's joking or if he's serious. He honestly believed that he is saving the souls of heretics. It is quite difficult to understand for me too. Actually it's difficult to understand life in the 16 century as whole.

Probably would've helped if he didn't torture kids. What goes around, comes around.

!Viva!

Hi! I do run another channel, it’s called TheUntoldPast. This is my second channel where I upload videos on medieval history, tudor history and non ww2 related stuff!

@@TheFortress Oh yeah Im following that channel also, great stuff..

Keep in mind that the "historians" who accused him of torture were all members of the protestant regime of Henry VIII and his successors. Also, the idea that the Bible was not printed in the vernacular of the people until Martin Luther made one in German is inaccurate (there were more than 13 different editions approved by the Church in the German language before Luther, there were quite a few in English also) what the Church demanded was 100% accurate translations with nothing added or removed

He never tortured children

Ew. Admiring people who hold to religious beliefs. Gross.

I could easily be wrong here as I'm speculating and have no hard factual proof to support my opinion, but...i think he was sainted because Rome might have considered his death the direct result of maintaining his loyalty to the Catholic church even unto execution. He wouldn't compromise his faith even to gain mercy from his friend. Being martyred is one way to get the title. It's a shit way to do it, but it is a way regardless lol I've said before, i think even in this videos comment section lol. but if i ever have to watch my own death walk up and look me in the eye, i hope i can go out with a fraction of his courage.

@@Damocles54yes. In the Catholic denomination, More was martyred for his faith.

But the papacy was created by Jesus. He made Peter the head of his church and all the followers of St Peter were to be treated as head of that church. Above all kings and princes. So the Pope has direct authority from God proven in scriptures. Henry did not and therefore Henry's claim as head of the church was heresy and he knew it which is why it tormented him to his death. I'm not sure if More actually said "no man" or whether he said "no man other than the pope"

Well that highlights both churches failings

I'm not Catholic, but Henry VIII was just a man. He was a murderer.

Would you fancy going to heaven knowing he was there..??lol

We could do with more religious fanatics who go out of their way to die a martyrs death?

You cannot see Thomas More with the 21st century eyes. He truly believed he is saving the souls of the heretics, so they won´t end up in hell. He sent like 7 people to the stake, which is awful (but see above) far less than most people think. He accommodated lot of poor people during the plague and fed them. He strongly supported education of women, his daughter Margaret was the best educated woman in England. Thomas More was disappointed by Henry, he didn´t want to live in country led by a tyrant.

@@blackcat2628zd yep he looked after the people who fell into his category of worthy. You know who else did that Hitler.

@@wasoncethere1228 He cared about people in categoryb TM didn't harm children. All this crap is a Tudor propaganda. He help poor people during the plague, accoodated them and fed them

There's no evidence that More tortured and killed Protestants. This video is historically inaccurate. More was a good man.

Please can you cite your sources regarding personal torture claims? Thanks.

@@sandie157 Take a look at Hilary Mantel's book "Wolf Hall." It will doubtless throw shade on "A Man for All Seasons," as good as it was.

These charges against More were made by people who were trying to support King Henry and blacken the name of an admired man. The charges have been refuted by reputable historians, e.g., Professor R. W. Chambers in his thorough work, "Thomas More". Those interested should consult this work, first published in 1935, particularly "Act IV, The Lord Chancellor", pages 274ff., #10, The Chancellor and the Heretics. Professor Chambers, incidentally, was a Protestant.

@@grouchomarxist666 A fiction book is not reliable.

@@grouchomarxist666 isn't that what is known in Literary circles as fiction??

Doesn't everyone, really?

You cannot see Thomas More with the 21st century eyes. He truly believed he is saving the souls of the heretics, so they won´t end up in hell. He sent like 7 people to the stake, which is awful (but see above) far less than most people think. He accommodated lot of poor people during the plague and fed them. And he didn´t torture children.

@@blackcat2628zd It was more than that some of Cromwell's friends were burnt at the stake he even did it children and what did Jesus teach love the church in the middle ages was like the mob kill anyone that questions their authority and at the head of the table is the pope

@@blackcat2628zd Right! And he also supported and educated orphans, and cared for the poor.

In the Catholic and Church of Englands standards

No. He didn't.

No, it doesn’t. His name is Thomas More, fyi.

Not a great comparison...I don't recall Thomas More trying to blow up the houses of parliament

You mean how Protestantism burned more than 50,000 witches? How Elizabeth of England killed 100,000 Irish Catholics? You mean how the Anglican Church justified the divorce of Catherine of Aragon, then went on to plunder churches, rape nuns, murder priests? Don’t puff when the Church of England is reportedly going extinct.

The reformation happen for two reasons: marriage to AB and wealth of the church they could grab.

So you worship you King or Queen, or in modern terms the State? How interesting? How useful you must be to every monster who accrues power. A slave begging to be used to oppress others. I assume when you enter Hell you will beg Satan to let you be his footstool. He won't and he and the devils will mock you. Wake up, open your eyes and ears and save yourself by asking God for help before it's too late.

Henry Henry wanted money for his wars with France and his glory...lol

Anti- Catholicism is the last acceptable bias. Get over yourself. I don't know a Catholic on the face of the earth who "worships" the Pope. "Over your own King?" Are you saying the English should have worshiped Henry XVIII? Now, that's TRULY nuts. Yes, the reformers truly were "stern." And many still are. "We're a better world for it." Can you prove that opinion? I'd say the state of current society proves the exact opposite.

Protestants are such loving people...