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The HORRIFYING War Hounds of the Conquistadors: How the Spanish used dogs to terrorize the New World 

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During the 16th century the Spanish Conquistadors viciously worked to conquer the New World. We generally credit the use of guns, germs, steel, and horses to their success but in the shadows of history was another factor. War Hounds. The Spanish used hundreds of dogs, mostly massive mastiffs and lightning fast greyhounds to intimidate, maul, and terrorize the native populations. In this episode I examine the impact the dogs had during the age of Spanish conquest.
Resources:
Kistler, John M. (2011), Animals in the Military: From Hannibal's Elephants to the Dolphins of the U.S. Navy, ABC-CLIO, ISBN 978-1-59884-347-7
books.google.com/books?id=g9B...
Coren, Stanley (2002), The Pawprints of History: Dogs in the Course of Human Events, Simon and Schuster, ISBN 978-0-7432-2770-4
In the News (again): Vicious Dogs www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/h...

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@ThePitbulllady1
@ThePitbulllady1 Год назад
The dogs that the Conquistadores brought to the New World as bioweapons weren't modern Mastiffs and Greyhounds. The Molosser breed was known as "Alano", and it probably looked more like a muscular Great Dane, which is one of its descendants. In fact, in Italy, the Great Dane is still known as an "Alano". This ancient Alano is not to be confused with the modern designer breed of the same name, which is more Bulldog-like. The Spanish Mastiff shown at the first of the video is a livestock-guarding breed, bred for reduced prey drive(otherwise they'd attack the livestock they are meant to protect), and are NOT related to the war dogs of the Spaniards. The sighthound breed used by the Spaniards was more aggressive than most modern sighthound breeds, and was the ancestor of the Spanish Galgo breed. Hernando de Soto also brought these dogs to North America, where they interbred with Native American dogs, known now as "Carolina Dogs", to produce the Catahoula Leopard Dog, Blackmouth Cur, Florida Cur and other "Cur" breeds that developed throughout the southern US. Occasionally, some lines of Catahoula will produce a huge "throwback" dog that closely resembles the Spanish Alano Mastiffs.
@YouT00ber
@YouT00ber Год назад
Found the dog breeder! That’s above average knowledge levels
@digs1223
@digs1223 Год назад
Absolutely, the presa canario is probably both a descendant and a similar phenotype to those dogs of old.
@DogmenHardcastle
@DogmenHardcastle Год назад
They crossed alanos with greyhounds and celtic hounds (wolfhounds/deerhounds) to make boarhounds (and crossing bull with sighthound is still how you make boarhounds). The boarhounds that were trained to attack humans would be called "bloodhounds" (not to be confused witht the st huberts bloodhound we know today). Bloodhounds were a big deal across all the colonial empires for terrorising and subjugating both natives and slaves. It wasn't an exact science with rules, so some of the bloodhounds would be just like alanos, others nearly like greyhounds, but most somewhere in between. Somewhere in between could end up bigger and more imposing than both bulldogs/alanos and the sighthounds, because you get the height and length of the sighthound with the strength of the bulldog. I have cousins that still breed boarhounds today, and cross bull terriers with greyhounds or deerhounds, the progeny can weigh up around 120-130 lbs. Bloodhounds in colonial times were recorded to weigh 170 lbs at times, and this is despite the fact bullmastiffs and the like typically were described as weighing maybe 60 lbs, even less sometimes. Fila Brasileiros are an example of a surviving "bloodhound". Most lineages around the world went extinct, as they were considered barbaric and dangerous and also just redundant when slavery was abolished. Cuban Bloodhounds, "Old Southern Boarhounds", Manila Bloodhounds and "Siberian bloodhounds" (really great danes) are referenced in historical texts. The Bully Kutta of India is likely another example of a surviving colonial bloodhound.
@dealvarado4783
@dealvarado4783 Год назад
@@digs1223 that dog looks insane. Id surrender in a minute if i say an armie of those.
@cwmyr
@cwmyr Год назад
@@digs1223 No the modern presa is not a similar phenotype at all. Maybe a slender, old-line Bardino Majorero. She wrote "a muscular Great Dane". I'd say, looking at period art and modern performance dogs, many also looked like Bull Arabs or bully greyhounds (aka bull-lurchers, Aussie piggy dogs, kangaroo dogs).
@burtan2000
@burtan2000 Год назад
I don't hear enough about dogs of war. We've used them for their capability to inflict damage for millennia. Who could ever forget Maximus Deximus Meritius saying "on my signal, unleash hell " only to have his faithful mutt run after him. We hear so much about the role horses play in wars but not enough dogs
@DogmenHardcastle
@DogmenHardcastle Год назад
So true, we are programmed to ignore dogs, that is how dogs snuck into our camps in the first place, and our tendency to overlook them and not take them seriously persists.
@jackwolf3948
@jackwolf3948 Год назад
The account of unleashing 20 giant mastiff during the height of the battle was pretty incredible. Imagine suddenly being hit by a wave of such beasts!
@johnh.tuomala4379
@johnh.tuomala4379 Год назад
Who can forget Shakespeare: “Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war”.
@Sawrattan
@Sawrattan Год назад
​@@jackwolf3948that's incredible, how the hell did the dogs differentiate between fighters though?
@bojangles2492
@bojangles2492 11 месяцев назад
​@@Sawrattandudes in armour vs naked snack.
@peterkratoska4524
@peterkratoska4524 Год назад
In reading a fascinating account of DeSotos march through Florida and the south - the Spanish used Bruto and some other dogs to fight, and they were so feared they got men who were running away to surrender. Bruto was finally killed when he tried to attack the natives who were on the other side of the river and they shot him with arrows.
@KA-om9oz
@KA-om9oz Год назад
They didn’t shoot him with a 9mm Glock…derrr😂
@charliesaucier3352
@charliesaucier3352 11 месяцев назад
Poor Bruto!
@strechemall
@strechemall 11 месяцев назад
​@@KA-om9ozI wouldnt be surprised if they did, its Florida after all
@derekjackson3990
@derekjackson3990 Год назад
Your analogy on human flesh being like a jelly doughnut compared to a wild boar is so perfect I can’t even begin to think how to top that. Bravo!
@tudyk21
@tudyk21 2 года назад
The Spanish undoubtedly learned the use of war dogs from the Romans.
@tickles5289
@tickles5289 Год назад
The Spanish were Romans. There was 1000 years between the 2 eras.
@vlad7758
@vlad7758 Год назад
@Tickles I was about to say lol
@asupremechieften
@asupremechieften Год назад
Exactly
@asupremechieften
@asupremechieften Год назад
But similar to dogs and wolves, we also crave dead flesh
@asupremechieften
@asupremechieften Год назад
you ever heard of skinwalkers motherfucker? You really think y'all powerful enough to fuck with America like how you think yall do? Your brain is shrinking
@Boxingbear
@Boxingbear Год назад
I first discovered this when I was doing research for my transcript. DOGS OF THE CONQUEST - I came across this book in the library at my University. I was amazed at the huge role these dogs played in this episode of history.
@leo8049
@leo8049 2 года назад
Great video! Just came across your page and I'm a huge fan! You're really solid at telling historic stories and making them interesting for more than just history buffs. You'll have more subs soon if you keep at it.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
I appreciate it! Channel is growing pretty fast and this videos are fun to make. Happy you liked it.
@nastybastardatlive
@nastybastardatlive Год назад
Better off reading a history book, and not getting your education from 8 minute RU-vid videos. It's not the same thing.
@williewonka6694
@williewonka6694 Год назад
A neglected point is that Conquistadors relied heavily on warriors of their native allies and represented a small minority of the forces against the empire.
@d-jemme
@d-jemme Год назад
another neglected point is clarifying that prior to the arrival of the spaniards, there was no "indigenous" or "native" identity. people identified by the city-states they were from, and they did not all get along. Additionally, just as with the natives of new england, they were forced to make decisions that they thought might preserve the safety of their own city-states and people, and not necessarily the lives of their enemies.
@cosmetrujillo5103
@cosmetrujillo5103 Год назад
European invasions only destruction
@rudolfyakich6653
@rudolfyakich6653 Год назад
This is true. They used the enemies of the Aztecs against them having beaten them in battle. However we rely on the memory of Bernal Diaz. I think his life was PTSD daily .
@knuthamsun6106
@knuthamsun6106 Год назад
@wonka- don’t bother with any real history bro, this clown thoughtlessly swallows & then regurgitates the most debunked anti-European social marxist propaganda prepared as a political weapon against modern white people
@bobdillon2642
@bobdillon2642 Год назад
Cope harder
@Wonkabar007
@Wonkabar007 2 года назад
These war hounds were the original shock and awe weapon, I remember hearing somewhere, that the French in Algeria used war hounds with stainless steel capped canine teeth, the dogs were sent into caves to fight. As for greyhounds those are really fast, I was marking lines on a football pitch and a greyhound came hurtling towards me, as it passed I felt a bump on my leg, I figured thats all it was until the blood appeared on my trousers, the greyhound had taken a lightning fast bite as it passed by 😬
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
Shock and awe is the perfect way to put it. I’m honestly a little upset the terminology hadn’t occurred to me when making the video. Whether the Spanish, French, or modern military and law enforcement, dogs are frightening. Just their presence makes people uneasy. As for the Greyhound bite, my father had a wolfhound (similar build but much bigger) and he told me stories about how the dog would run by and slice the pants of people around the knee. If they want to they can draw blood easily.
@Wonkabar007
@Wonkabar007 2 года назад
@@datesanddeadguys I guess this why they used the greyhound mastiff combo, to devastating effect.
@saucerhead494
@saucerhead494 2 года назад
Something way more primal about a dog chasing you hellbent on eating your face rather than a human on horseback 😂 couldn't even imagine war hounds. Buddy had a wolf/shepherd mix, named Benny. While sitting on their couch Benny found it amusing to put his front paws on back of couch behind you and literally put your head in his mouth, just standing there.. was senior in highschool and first time was utter fright.
@sanderson9338
@sanderson9338 Год назад
The lost Roman hounds sound terrifying the Mastiff is the closest breed today but way smaller, these dogs were 200lb as a minimum whereas the Mastiff maxes out at 200lb and that's very rare. They also had spiked collars and blades on their forelegs pointing backwards to stop people grabing them.
@sanderson9338
@sanderson9338 Год назад
They were docked tails and ears, absolutely cruel as fuck but that is how they were bred. They may or may not had skull caps depending on sources.
@EdgardoPlasencia
@EdgardoPlasencia Год назад
Terrorising like supressing cannibalism and human sacrifices? Like founding 700 cities in a century? Like making a Neolithic Civilization to one of a baroque culture in 100 years ? Like founding universities, roads, hospitals , schools, Institutions ?
@suomusirkus
@suomusirkus Год назад
Great storytelling man! I've been binge watching since found your channel
@nuttermarsoc
@nuttermarsoc 2 года назад
Just stumbled on your channel mate, needless to say I’m in instant fan, keep it up, subscribed 👍
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
I appreciate the support! I’m excited about it. Its growing pretty fast and the topics are fun to research and put out there. Thank you.
@bustavonnutz
@bustavonnutz 2 года назад
With metal warriors, pestilence, horses & giant warhounds I bet the natives felt like they were in a grimdark version of the Chronicles of Narnia.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
It must have felt very alien.
@yeraisalgado6146
@yeraisalgado6146 2 года назад
Dont forget they had a lot of native allies (they were the main Manpower)
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
Absolutely. I have thought about diving into that before. The rival nature of these groups really prevented unification. Famously native groups like the Tlaxcala and others in Mexico were thrilled to team up against the Aztecs. The Westo in South Carolina eagerly sold their rivals to colonists as slaves. The Crow teamed up with Custer against the Lakota. Without help, conquistadors and colonists would likely have been forced out, at least for a time.
@bustavonnutz
@bustavonnutz 2 года назад
@@datesanddeadguys Divide & conquer, a tale as old as time.
@JoseAntonioBlancodeCordova
@JoseAntonioBlancodeCordova Год назад
@@datesanddeadguys Divide et impera
@wishunter9000
@wishunter9000 Год назад
It’s amazing, and sad, how many types of dogs have been ruined by inbreeding. It looks like mastiffs used to be far more athletic (like big ass wiry pitbulls) instead of chunky saggy shadows of what they used to be.
@velazquezn
@velazquezn Год назад
That's why a lot of breeds have 2 variations, the "contest" and the "workforce". Contest are more standarized, while workforce if more focused in doing tasks right. You wont ever see an spanish mastiff contest looking like in a farm. Farm dogs are way more lean. Shepards share they best shepards dogs, not the more good looking. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G2fMkPsInQs.html&ab_channel=NazaretMart%C3%ADnC. In this video you can see a girl making puppy grew up with the sheeps so the puppy is part of the herd.
@dfusco73
@dfusco73 Год назад
Very interesting pod cast , reallyenjoyed that one , dogs are amazing animals and the bond between dogs and humans is strong, dogs and humans will save each others lives , even cats get pissed if a person they don’t like comes into they’re domain .
@ccole1255
@ccole1255 Год назад
Wow, I never heard of greyhounds being war dogs before. Interesting. I can they how their speed would be very useful, if only to run down fleeing enemies and tangle them up until the 200lb mastiffs caught up
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys Год назад
It’s terrifying. Put it up there in ways I would least like to die.
@tickles5289
@tickles5289 Год назад
They used a breed of Spanish Greyhounds used for hunting.
@tickles5289
@tickles5289 Год назад
@@datesanddeadguys They also used Alanos extensively.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys Год назад
That is a frightening looking dog.
@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367
The greyhound originates with the arabs in north africa they were used a hunting dogs, they were much larger and much more robust than modern greyhounds
@driver55
@driver55 Год назад
Thank you, great video. As a descendent of both peoples in this video this really hit home. Mankind's brutality towards one another is unmatched in human history. I'm definitely looking into the book you mentioned here. 🤜🤛
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys Год назад
Pawprints of history is hilarious title. A lot of the book is available online, including most of the section on the conquistadors. You can check it out on Google Books here: books.google.com/books?id=ndYgity6bNwC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
@driver55
@driver55 Год назад
@@datesanddeadguys thank you for the link.
@johndonahue3509
@johndonahue3509 Год назад
INDEED....well put... IT'S not relative to one side ..it's nature.
@dubuyajay9964
@dubuyajay9964 Год назад
You ok? :(
@josephhernandez3087
@josephhernandez3087 Год назад
Remember, they were fighting the moors for 800 years. War is in spanish blood.
@JP-oe6pw
@JP-oe6pw Год назад
Basically Lions. Loyal Lions. Must have been absolutely terrifying for the those tribes.
@BB-gr9hq
@BB-gr9hq Год назад
So, when Mark Anthony cried "Let loose the dogs of war" in Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar", he was really saying some mean stuff.
@low_vibration
@low_vibration Год назад
something nice and light to watch on my lunch break
@GiotheGhreat
@GiotheGhreat Год назад
The conquistadors also used a lot of coca leaves to "feed" the slaves. The slaves were fed only coca leaves until they were dead. Coca leaves are extremely powerful.
@joseanfigueroa8785
@joseanfigueroa8785 Год назад
Nice fairy tale; were they also vampires..?
@GiotheGhreat
@GiotheGhreat Год назад
@@joseanfigueroa8785 You obviously ignore how powerful are the leaves. Same effect as the shit You shove up your nose and brain
@agc796
@agc796 Год назад
Surviving in a unknown territory full of strangers is not evil, its called survival and using what you got to stay alive.
@CarlJohnson-uk4fe
@CarlJohnson-uk4fe 10 дней назад
Spanish didn't have unknown territory they invasion/slavers/colonist.
@masterofnone8400
@masterofnone8400 2 года назад
Keep em coming dude
@georgerivera6970
@georgerivera6970 Год назад
Really cool topic! I've known of dogs in war and ancient civilizations, but I was totally ignorant about Spanish conquistadors and their use of them. Great job.
@avencebi
@avencebi 11 месяцев назад
Very informative video. Being Puerto Rican and being a descendent of the Spanish and Taino and also african it is hard to hear about the things that went on back then but also very necessary to learn about all of it.
@plusultra6199
@plusultra6199 11 месяцев назад
If you want to learn, don't think that this guy's talk is accurate. Pure Yanky anti Spanish propoganda!
@azqq1526
@azqq1526 8 месяцев назад
​@plusultra6199 nope all its all true Europoor keep coping😂
@jbsv2979
@jbsv2979 Месяц назад
No te fías de los Anglosajones , ellos inventaron la “ leyenda negra “ para desprestigiar a los Españoles!! 👍
@jamespmullin21753
@jamespmullin21753 Год назад
The Brittanic celts had the most powerful war dogs, trained to knock armored cavalry off their horses. The Cu, the ancestor of the Irish wolfhound was considered to be the toughest dogs in Roman gladitorial games. English mastiff ancestors also made it to the arena. There was no such thing as English back then. The modern Wolfhound is not the same as the ancient ones, who were more athletic and mean. The Irish Wolfhounds were almost extinct, a British Army officer bred the last few wolfhounds with Scottish deerhounds, Great Danes, Borzois and maybe others. The breeds hostility to men was almost bred out of them and their life span was badly shortened. Irish Wolfhounds could use some Airedale, Pitbull and Kangal blood.
@MrChileno13
@MrChileno13 Год назад
Cuban doggo and Uruguayan Cimarron are some of the dogs that can be traced to the original that the spaniards used in America, naturally bred with native wild dogs. Irish Wolfhound is a really big dog 😅
@jamespmullin21753
@jamespmullin21753 Год назад
One more note, one ancient civilization that used big mastiff type dogs to hunt and go to war was the Assyrians, they predated the Roman empire. To do a little research on the gamest dog breeds Google or search RU-vid for Doctor Carl Semencic creator of some of the first American Bandogge lines.
@williammartin2842
@williammartin2842 Год назад
I told my neighbor walking his dog about how all dogs have biting teeth to rip apart prey. He mentioned about a drug dealer fella in our area. He fought about 9 police and killed a police dog with his hands but he was ripped to shreds before being arrested. He said he looked like a mummy with so many bandages. 20 minutes later I was playing with my dog and it whipped it's head around fast just once. One tooth punctured the skin and other moving teeth just shredded the skin on the other side of my arm. As tough as a jelly doughnut.
@dack575
@dack575 Год назад
I think it’s possible each dog killed that many people. We are talking about game dogs that live for what they do.
@johnjames5712
@johnjames5712 Год назад
just like most dogs live and love to do what jobs they were bred for and trained to do.
@crystalbluebutterfly
@crystalbluebutterfly 11 месяцев назад
Poor dogs! Being exploited by asshole human animals, to do their dirty work! The domestication and farming of all nonhuman animals is, was, and will always be, WRONG!!!
@veewsol7078
@veewsol7078 11 месяцев назад
It's impossible. I had that dog breed. They have huge stamina and jaw power but they come to a point where they overheat and lie down, mouth wide open, chest expanding and collapsing like fireplace bellows and you can even hear their heart beating from a relative distance. On top of that, they are guard dogs for herds of sheep, their instinct doesn't even cooperate.
@jerkjerkington3874
@jerkjerkington3874 10 месяцев назад
@@veewsol7078 Some other people here are saying that they weren't really using mastiffs. That's just a modern comparison. Apparently they were actually using Alanos which were bred for just this purpose.
@TrenchDwellerFBA
@TrenchDwellerFBA 9 месяцев назад
not the same breed@@veewsol7078
@carapo66
@carapo66 Год назад
"Dates and Dead Guys", what a name for a history channel. Subscribed.
@mikef.1000
@mikef.1000 Год назад
Thanks for this; I have read a lot of histories of the conquests of Mexico and Peru, but have not read of the role that these dogs played. One more factor to consider, alongside the disease, the steel, the artillery, and the conquistador mindset and religion.
@stone0234
@stone0234 11 месяцев назад
Peru and Mexico did not exist in that era yet
@VojislavMoranic
@VojislavMoranic Год назад
Dogs are still used today for war. During the NATO aggresion on Yugoslavia the border guard units who held the line on the Albanian border against the US trained KLA had dogs with them as part of regular deployment. One dog in particular was crowned "Major" Lister a German shepherd who during firefights and the fiercest battles managed to kill the terrorists that were near his handler. So much so that he had his own little "Seat" during the commemoration of those died during the war.
@eugenemurray2708
@eugenemurray2708 Год назад
My old dog was a mastiff x pitbull. Rather large about 45+KG in his prime to tire him out I would have him chase a car going through the second largest cemetery in the southern hemisphere through a hilled and windy route, maybe 3KM per trip. It would take 3+ trips to deplete his energy. Some dogs can endure hours of conflict, hence pitbulls are the fighting dog as they can scrap for hours where bigger more ferocious on impact dogs can only go minutes.
@saucerhead494
@saucerhead494 2 года назад
These dogs were still good boys, to their owners lol! Shoot my grandpa was born in 1930 and even he didn't see dogs as pets but as tools for hunting surviving in the woods . Just found your channel good stuff man appreciate it
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
It’s very interesting. I lived in Lancaster PA for a while and the Amish have a very utility based relationship with their animals. A lot of the horses are very gaunt and worked. They are not pets. They are tools. It is a very different thing than what I am used to.
@sanderson9338
@sanderson9338 Год назад
Dogs love their owners 💯 but they were first domesticated not as pets but as tools to help us. We owe dogs alot. Beautiful creatures with hearts of gold
@burtan2000
@burtan2000 Год назад
@@sanderson9338 Tools, yes but they've always been our companions as well. It's kinda like children were laborers in nearly every family up until a few generations ago. They were still loved and cuddled, but whupped if not up at 530 to milk. bonding thru love and affection 30k yea ago is how we selected the wolves to breed to turn into what we have now. They were not doted on the way they are now. The dog has always selflessly worked and fought and bled for food, warmth and for one thing above all else: for scritches and for the honor of being called good boy or good girl
@dack575
@dack575 Год назад
This is still the case for many hunting/game dogs here in the states.
@justintime753
@justintime753 Год назад
Same with my grandpa.
@daveb.4268
@daveb.4268 Год назад
Thank you so much for doing this video! I do table-top miniature wargaming and I have put on several games of Conquistador's for the guys and there seems to be little information on their use of dogs.
@bakermarcos3251
@bakermarcos3251 Год назад
U have any idea or possible links to see what the armor the dogs wore looked like?
@jamesjohnson427
@jamesjohnson427 Год назад
The fear factor was huge,because any large bore type spear will slay a dog if leveled and bravely used
@SandevistanB
@SandevistanB 2 года назад
These videos are fun and great learning tools
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
They are fun to make and research. Good to hear people are enjoying them. Thank you.
@johnrogers8836
@johnrogers8836 Год назад
Oft heard, never really thought of. This gem clarifies so many historical comments, and ill never gain think I could take on a pursuing hound (not that I’m likely to ever find myself in that position... but)... great content.
@joseanfigueroa8785
@joseanfigueroa8785 Год назад
Known for his superior intelligence, Becerrillo is the most famous of the conquistador dogs. He participated in the conquest of Puerto Rico, thus brother in arms with my ancestor, the conquistador Pedro de Cárdenas.
@AlexP-jz9sg
@AlexP-jz9sg Год назад
Some context should be presented here. The Caribs were incredibly brutal themselves. They regularly raided Hispaniola for slaves, castrated them and even ate the captives. If they captured very young children they would raise them until they were large enough to eat. I think the dogs eating them was a kind of just dessert.
@joseanfigueroa8785
@joseanfigueroa8785 Год назад
Also: The Caribs were simply small island Tainos; they were not the innocent victims presented in historical fairytales...
@shmigo.gambino
@shmigo.gambino 11 месяцев назад
lol dude get the fuck out of here im of Taino descent and even i think your weak ass ideology is stupid. how you justify a colonization and extermination Job because they did some viking style raiding 😂
@coleburns5497
@coleburns5497 11 месяцев назад
@@joseanfigueroa8785Hey, I’m grateful my Spanish padres raise me to care for my children. Not sacrifice them, lol.
@ms.andrea172
@ms.andrea172 11 месяцев назад
Actually this was proven to be untrue. Stop the nonsense!
@ms.andrea172
@ms.andrea172 11 месяцев назад
@@coleburns5497so you’re glad your people were murdered, raped, and colonized by the Spanish? That’s the dumbest thing I have heard this week. SMH 🤡
@phhdvm
@phhdvm Год назад
In 30 years of veterinary practice I never saw a 200 lb dog that wasn't morbidly obese- mastiffs included. I owned a large , fit male and he tipped the scales around 150. Their size is as exaggerated as the ludicrous casualty numbers from the Coren book
@robertprosser5023
@robertprosser5023 Год назад
I agree. Humans arent as tough as wild boars but they don't rip apart that easy, that fast.
@ColdestRage303
@ColdestRage303 Год назад
A Boerboel can be that. While still in shape.
@ColdestRage303
@ColdestRage303 Год назад
And yes such kind of dog will rip you appart that easy. 1 Bite to the head, belly, neck or any point where a artery is and it will be game over. Even a small wound from a tooth especially in that time would finish the job from infection after.
@ColdestRage303
@ColdestRage303 Год назад
The Spanish Mastiff are huge dogs as well. And keep in mind these dogs are down scaled in modern times and made to be less agressive. In that time it was the other way around.
@robertprosser5023
@robertprosser5023 Год назад
@@ColdestRage303 I googled them, they look like big a**holes.
@billytrevathan6405
@billytrevathan6405 11 месяцев назад
Awesome story and great history as always!
@alejandrovargas7592
@alejandrovargas7592 Год назад
Amazing !! This is the first time that I've heard of these war dogs!
@tangle70
@tangle70 2 года назад
It never ceases to amaze me the evil men will do to other men. We live a very sheltered life now a days.
@j.porlando5091
@j.porlando5091 Год назад
Exactly and these Spanish invaders were “Christians”
@tangle70
@tangle70 Год назад
@@j.porlando5091 Weren't they Catholic?
@j.porlando5091
@j.porlando5091 Год назад
@@tangle70 yes you’re right I need to stop categorizing Catholics with Christians. So my bad I’m that But the Spanish Catholics were “men of god” but committed every sin known. No wonder god allowed the British to crush them
@uptown_rider8078
@uptown_rider8078 Год назад
@@j.porlando5091 The Spaniards liberated natives that were oppressed by the Aztec that would rip their hearts out.
@trey9775
@trey9775 Год назад
@@uptown_rider8078 false. they enslaved the natives they “liberated” working them to death
@incorrigiblycuriousD61
@incorrigiblycuriousD61 Год назад
Excellent presentation. One thing though, the 200 pound mastiffs can't be right. Look at the cane corso at about 110 pounds. Wearing woven or leather armor and a spiked collar at that size and ferocity would get the job done. Or look at the cimarron uruguayo. I've read that they are the original multipurpose Spanish invaders dog--livestock herding, hunting, and war dog. The went feral and have been re-domesticated as guard dogs and military sentry. They are about 45 kilos. Both would scare the sh*t out of me if I'm a 135 pound native with a bow and arrows, especially if the dogs night vision were taken advantage of in an attack just before dawn. Thanks again for the presentation.
@veewsol7078
@veewsol7078 11 месяцев назад
Mine was 45 kg at it's peak, male. About half of what was claimed in the video. Standing upright he could touch noses with someone 170ish cm tall. According to the vet he was on the bigger side of that breed. Claims are completely exaggerated. And the whole armored dog thing would overheat them in no time, specially in that climate. Also there are two kinds of spanish mastiffs, one is modern the other is the work dog. The modern is bigger, with floppy skin, really low stamina and can't really work or fight.
@roxfoot
@roxfoot 11 месяцев назад
Very interesting and well articulated, thank you.
@dryhumor7302
@dryhumor7302 Год назад
This was a very informative video. The imagery (though sad) was evocative. Unfortunately, there was a lot of room tone. The low levels coupled with the room tone made this difficult to hear well, when played on a cell. I have some very low cost ways of fixing these if it is of interest. Thank you for the history lesson!!!
@coltonsheffield9741
@coltonsheffield9741 Год назад
Loving the channel. Just came across it. Any Native American history and stories are great. Ancient war tactics are fascinating
@AV57
@AV57 Год назад
The history of domesticated animals is fascinating. I did a research paper on wild wolf populations of North America during the Colonial Era about 10 years ago, and I was surprised how difficult it was to find good primary sources, despite a ton of tantalizing secondary sources. I could usually find good primary sources when it came to dog-fighting, because the events would often be published in a local newspaper and the fights would often pit recently trapped wild wolves against domesticated dogs. The event organizers seemed to have a very good idea on wild wolf populations, because they were constantly trying to trap them for their next event.
@crystalbluebutterfly
@crystalbluebutterfly 11 месяцев назад
There is NOTHING fascinating about the domestication and farming of nonhuman animals! You would have to be a descendant of the colonizers if you think like that. Boooooo!!!!
@Ethan-xf4or
@Ethan-xf4or Год назад
Nice content dude
@williamespinosa9094
@williamespinosa9094 7 месяцев назад
"My dog gets tired after 12 throws"..😂😂 Great job. Appreciate you sir
@thomasgumersell9607
@thomasgumersell9607 Год назад
Man's best friend in our past certainly wasn't a friend to the natives. Rather sad to think about what transpired. I'm a ex professional dog trainer / handlier. Gun dogs mainly Labs, Pointers with some Walker Hounds I've trained and worked with. Loyal and eager to please. My one Lab Duke certainly loved to be out in the field or marsh. Such a strong drive and excellent nose Duke had for game birds. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
@DEATH14269
@DEATH14269 Год назад
Actually the oldest dog breeds known to humanity come from the native Americans and Mexicans. They domesticated dog breeds aswell 🤣 They used to have their own small packs of dogs in many tribes
@jimbob465
@jimbob465 Год назад
Every people's throughout time had and loved dogs
@DEATH14269
@DEATH14269 Год назад
I'll add that they didn't use them for dishonorable combat or to dispatch the innocent but rather great defenders and hunting partners ect. Euro used dogs trained to bite genitals and kill children. Sadly. But they also had badass armor for their dogs. The Spanish dogs. They looked like Roman armored dogs.
@jimbob465
@jimbob465 Год назад
@@DEATH14269 dishonorable combat? Grow up kid
@DEATH14269
@DEATH14269 Год назад
@@jimbob465 you sound like a child not knowing how the animal kingdom works. Children know nothing of honor. You are probably a big fat beer bellied man child... Disconnected from nature much?
@mrmarcus1337
@mrmarcus1337 11 месяцев назад
The ancient world was a cold brutal place. There are many mass graves that were filled with Natives, by Natives. Cool look at the use of war dogs.
@BigDaddy-hn7oh
@BigDaddy-hn7oh Год назад
Amazing stories that I know nothing about. I learn something everyday there are packs of wild dogs between Vegas and Big Bear and my friend broke down out there the open one year just happened to be packing a pistola when she broke down you got outside the car to make a call and see if she couldn't fix it herself and that's when it happened he barely got back into the cab of the truck oh yeah that was a close call Little Miss big britches almost bought the farm so yeah it's plausible more than plausible of these kinds of events and it's just really out of necessity awesome job keep up the good work now if we can only find a way to end this division in our beautiful country that would be something you see our diversity is our strength last time I heard it was the United States of America so be strong be kind do a good job help out when you can
@speakupriseup4549
@speakupriseup4549 2 года назад
That would explain the South American preference for chihuahuas
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
Tiny terrors but definitely less stressful than a mastiff.
@theATkid
@theATkid 2 года назад
Chihuahuas are North American.
@speakupriseup4549
@speakupriseup4549 2 года назад
@@theATkid yes I believe Cortez first recorded their existence and named them after Chihuahua New York 😅
@NewMexicoJoe505
@NewMexicoJoe505 2 года назад
​@@speakupriseup4549 Mexico is part of North America dipshit
@dougearnest7590
@dougearnest7590 Год назад
Laughed way harder than I should have.
@AZadeh-nd8vx
@AZadeh-nd8vx Год назад
I still don't understand how a man with an obsidian club actually dozens of men, cannot kill a dog?? Was it the armour? Or was it propaganda to scare the natives??
@Jason21012
@Jason21012 Год назад
It was mostly propaganda. The Spanish was pretty well known to embellish things to make the Spanish empire back home happy and continue funding their travels
@Clingerman93
@Clingerman93 Год назад
You sir just earned yourself a subscriber!
@deadhorse1391
@deadhorse1391 Год назад
I have Fila Brasileiros, large South American Mastiff type dogs the only dogs bred specifically for hunting people. Slaves and Indians Extremely aggressive and distrusting of strangers
@robertmurphy1568
@robertmurphy1568 Год назад
I have no doubt Spanish mastiffs had at least 50 kills per dog.. I know a breeder of them and those dogs are literally the Arnold of dogs scary
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys Год назад
It sounds absurd on it’s face but there are things that make me wonder. The Mastiffs are likely bigger than the natives. And the witness made a point to address how he thought it was possible which makes me think he felt the numbers he through out there were crazy too and he felt the need to explain why they were not. I would still bet there was some exaggeration but regardless it seems like a straight horror show.
@robertmurphy1568
@robertmurphy1568 Год назад
@datesanddeadguys ya the natives couldn't have been very big.. the guy I know who breeds them is 7 foot tall and 350 pounds and he was struggling to hold his 150 lb female and the male he has is over 200 lbs with a head that more than rivals a basketball on steroids.. I fully belive it was a slaughter
@dubuyajay9964
@dubuyajay9964 Год назад
May I ask your thoughts on the Argentino Doggo?
@robertmurphy1568
@robertmurphy1568 Год назад
@dubuyajay9964 don't know much about then... im sure it's a hand full
@fire_tower
@fire_tower Год назад
Regarding the estimate of how many men the dogs killed in an hour, I think it may be that they were describing a rate it took for dogs to kill one or two men then extrapolating to get the amount they might kill in an hour.
@williamanderson6006
@williamanderson6006 Год назад
nice story of long forgotten history thank you
@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm3291
The kind of mastiffs from Game of Thrones were Italian Mastiffs. Another name for them is Cane Corso. I used to use them to guard my homestead from coyotes. I still have 2 of them but they are old and retired.
@johnirby8847
@johnirby8847 Год назад
I am always skeptical about war stories involving dogs. We are talking about a native group that lived amongst and worshipped jaguars. I'm going to be as blunt as I can. If a group of humans with pointy sticks can kill mammoths and elephants. What chance does a dog have?
@MrChileno13
@MrChileno13 Год назад
It's how they used the dogs, a fear weapon
@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251
they worshiped jaguars because they feared them skip forward a couple hundread years,the direct decendents of the same breeds of dogs the spanish used as war dogs (Dogo Argentino) were and are specifically bred to hunt puma/jaguar/panthers. so i think that fact alone kinda speaks for itself. i grew up hunting boars in the jungle with pitbulls, if you have ever seen a 100lb pitbull trained correctly unleash its speed and power on a 200lb armored, tusked, hellpig , you would understand why they were a brutal tool of war.
@johnirby8847
@johnirby8847 Год назад
@ Deezy907 a 100lb pit bull dies very quickly with simple objects. A spear. A club. Do you believe the natives didn't have weapons? Tell me, what are the odds of who wins a fight, a 180lb man with a baseball bat or a 100lb pit bull? And be realistic...
@johnirby8847
@johnirby8847 Год назад
@Unlucky Guy they might have, but dogs aren't very frightening to soldiers, even in ancient Roman times. I'm skeptical of dogs being effectively used in any battle.
@johnirby8847
@johnirby8847 Год назад
@Unlucky Guy I mean, look at the story, "in one hour, each dog tore apart no less than 100 Indians." Do you believe that's possible? Lol
@necrophagus9
@necrophagus9 11 месяцев назад
I have a 230 pound English mastiff but he's a huge baby his name is Beorn. Best breed in my opinion. Great video!
@raz6630
@raz6630 Год назад
Great video
@jackiekittridge-steele385
@jackiekittridge-steele385 Год назад
This explains a lot about the disposition of the Mastiff breed. Some are sweet, and many remember what their original purpose was. Ditto the Akita. Think carefully and do your research into the temperment of the family line if you are considering a breed with a bloody heritage.
@carolforsythe6316
@carolforsythe6316 Год назад
100% correct !!!!!!!!!
@LonelyRanger902
@LonelyRanger902 Год назад
If you had the choice between losing 20 of your men’s lives, or releasing the dogs - what would you do?
@therach7841
@therach7841 Год назад
I would simply go back to Spain and build my life there.
@MH-ro1lg
@MH-ro1lg Год назад
​@TheRach a life of poverty isn't appealing to conquerors
@gregtaylor9806
@gregtaylor9806 11 месяцев назад
‘I will not allow the compassion and forgiveness of a dog to outshine that of a true Christian’ What a fascinating quote. Despite the cruelty of those times, it’s amazing when you read a primary source and think ‘what a modern thing to say’
@maggiefranks6849
@maggiefranks6849 Год назад
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition
@patrickuysim7144
@patrickuysim7144 Год назад
I just found this channel and it is awesome! I wonder if the Spanish brought those war dogs to the Philippines when they invaded.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys Год назад
I appreciate it. The Spanish colonization of the Philippines started in the same time frame as some of the South American and Caribbean conquests so I would have to assume to some extent they did use war dogs. But I took a quick look and found no glaring references to it so I can’t be sure.
@patrickuysim7144
@patrickuysim7144 Год назад
@@datesanddeadguys I have not heard of any local history about the Spanish war dogs in the Philippines, I wonder how the Juramentados would fare against them if ever they did clash back then.
@agricola
@agricola Год назад
Probably less effective against enemies with steel weapons and armor(to an extent) like the Moros had.
@joseanfigueroa8785
@joseanfigueroa8785 Год назад
The Philipiines was conquered with the aid of Tlaxcalan warriors.
@33Donner77
@33Donner77 Год назад
Dogs are probably just as good as guns in some cases. This is why so many abandoned dogs in St. Louis are pit bulls. Maybe trained legions of mastiffs could take care of crime in U.S. cities, but homeowners may loose their home insurance if they own mastiffs or other agressive dogs. A dogs nature is to tear meat apart. That's why when you play tug of war with your dog,, it's subconciously thinkiing of tearing you apart. This is a useful trait in rescue dogs that tug people out of avalanche snow (victim holds a handle, and the dog tugs them out). I may name my teacup poodle "Burcerillo". "Burcerillo ! Tomalos ! ! !"
@yurrintinckelsonn812
@yurrintinckelsonn812 Год назад
This was actually horriffic. Thanks.
@BG-lb1fb
@BG-lb1fb 2 года назад
Not really used for evil, this is how people were then, the Romans were rough also. There is not a group of people in the past who were not involved in war, not from Europe, not from Africa. Good content but do not judge based on what you perceive to be today's values. Look at the Russians in Ukraine, or ISIS, or the civil wars in Africa.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
I generally agree with your sentiment. The Roman’s for example fed people to lions as punishment for crimes and had their beast hunts in the coliseum for sport. As a cultural practice I can see it through the lens of the time. There is endless nuance to history. But I can’t get past sending a dog after someone as part of gambling or sport. That is evil and some in the ranks of the Spanish like De Las Casas spoke out against it. But I will concede that in different cultural circumstances we would behave far worse and they may behave far better. That makes the question of evil a really hard one to contextualize.
@BG-lb1fb
@BG-lb1fb 2 года назад
@@datesanddeadguys I appreciate your open mind to my comments. I agree sending a dog after someone is cruel, but we sitll do it in our military today if needed. Working dogs are a tool to protect human life. I don't like it but I understand it, I do not believe in hunting animals as a sport, so can def see your perspective
@masterofnone8400
@masterofnone8400 Год назад
@@BG-lb1fb I agree, human history is brutal, some people actually do horrific things thinking they are in the right, this isn't evil. Torturing and raping babies is certainly evil but I'd be very careful what else I would throw in
@samsom4122
@samsom4122 Год назад
Actully what the spanish were doing was even evil for time and yes we can judge them if we want. Are you really this ignorant to say what they were doing was not evil just cuz it was 500 years ago like a bafoon
@trey9775
@trey9775 Год назад
No other nations committed atrocities anywhere close to the scale of Europeans. Under their control the globe has rapidly declined to the brink of complete nuclear destruction
@jamesjohnson427
@jamesjohnson427 Год назад
Yes many of the best Roman legions were made up of Spanish men. It’s documented the men were smaller than Germanic tribes but there discipline and tactics won out again and again!
@humbertycarrillo483
@humbertycarrillo483 Год назад
The 11 Hispanic legion was the best; most of the beat elites Romans Warriors where Spaniards and Italians.
@MrChileno13
@MrChileno13 Год назад
Great soldiers indeed
@robertafierro5592
@robertafierro5592 Год назад
I knew NOTHING about these dogs till now! How sad for every single person involved..I'm sure these dogs were starved before battle, well, not starved, but no doubt, food was withheld before battle, to make them more aggressive.
@JimRPickens
@JimRPickens Год назад
The strategy of using 1000's of Chihuahuas en mass against the Conquistadors, although visually and audibly terrifying, proved to be ineffective.
@GregariousAntithesis
@GregariousAntithesis Год назад
So hard to watch but valuable to know.
@gorcrow
@gorcrow Год назад
your pronunciation of "tómalos" sounds a lot like "tamales" and i can't stop laughing
@sacrificedogculture
@sacrificedogculture Год назад
"They were also loveable " what goofy stupid thing to say.
@jchapman8248
@jchapman8248 Год назад
Outstanding presentation, brother! Not sure the early Spanish conquests of the Americas would've been as successful without their loyal and fierce war dogs. That also brought to mind two items to ponder regarding Ibero-Amercan history. 1. How much did the Reconquista (from Muslim donation of the Iberian peninsula) contribute toward the incredible cruelty of Spanish and Portuguese conquistadors employed against native peoples? 2. (Re: conflicts with the Apaches and Commanches) There's no mention of war dogs being employed by the Spanish during their conflicts/struggles with the two groups, why not especially if they were successful campaigns of conquest earlier on? Your content most informative. Thanks for sharing! 👍🏼🇺🇸
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys Год назад
I can’t speak to your first item but on the second I know a little. The practice of dogging fell out of favor because the priests objected to it. I don’t recall if it was outright banned but that is what diminished it.
@sergiofernandez4566
@sergiofernandez4566 Год назад
Just a little point about the "incredible cruelty" of Spaniards and Portuguese;: First of all I think that when you are so massively outnumbered you MUST be cruel against some to avoid having to kill much more people both between the possible enemies and between the allies that can be persuaded of treasoning you(this is A.K.A psicological Warfare medieval style). Second: the natives were not especially sensitive to cruel acts; they also extirped Hearts, burn people Alive as religious sacrifices, kill babys to Tlaloc, drown other víctims, killing others by beating them with sticks, remové their enemie's skins and then wear them and a long list of atrocities...if you want to "impress" people from such culture you cannot be mild... Third these acts happened mainly in the XVI and XVII centuries, no less than TWO hundred years AFTER that the civilized Usonians used to offer a payment for human scalps in at least one of the states of the Union ( being the scalps of Indian women and children paid at a lower price).
@adrianj.8736
@adrianj.8736 Год назад
You should not believe in black legends, how about the british, who erradicated the 95% of the native americans? Why the only reserves of native americans are on spanish territory? The diference bwtween spanish empire and british empire, radicates in the greatness of the spanish and the decadency of the british, thats why today near 700 million people speaks spanish and only 300 million english. Being part of the spanish empire was the best that happend to america, we preserve thay history in books and founded the first universities in the continent, also the first human rights declaration, while the stupid english and the bastard americans took almost 400 years to free the slaves.
@adrianj.8736
@adrianj.8736 Год назад
@@oscarw.alcantara4459 Sorry you should check out when the british genocide started, almost a 100 years after spain reach america, so the argument of the period its just a joke for non well educated person. only 20000 spanish people in the first 100 years of the discovery of america, where sent there, and they conquered from mexico to peru, how? helping smaller native tribes fighting the manhunting mayans etc on their respective parts of america, so the cruelty you are talking was mostly enforced by the natives themselfs against mayans, incas etc. After those manhunt tribes where overtrhow, the natives joined the spanish country as provinces, with a system of goverment called virreinato, wich means that in those new parts of spain surged a underking that controlled the province, wich is a decentralizated form of goverment, and wich mean that they are not colonies they are part of the country as much as any spanish province. The british genocide started a 100 years later, when the fireweapons where easy to get and they could erradicate easily entire races, like the native americans that fought only with arrows. So nobody is talikng about how cruels spanish where, im talking about how other empires where way more cruel than the spanish, and it does not exist any genocide on spanish territory like exist in the british part of america, and i repeat yes in the conquer of america it exist killings from the spanish, wich are a joke compared with the british genocides. Just a quick reminder: Ireland: 1845 - 1 million killed by the british Australia: 1770 - 870000 killed by british (95%) of population India: 1760/1943 - 100 million (some estimate up to 165M) killed by the british North america: combining the british efforts and americans they got the 90% of the population 11 million Please find a document from the spanish empire that states in 1775 that the goverment will pay 50 pounds for every native american killed (25 if it was a woman 20 if it was a child) no it was george 2 Hitler is a joke compared with the british empire, again i state the most easy to understand argument, why spanish have 700 million speakers arround the world and english only 300million? Because we didnt comit genocides as british, we where angles that build the first universities and hospitals in america and preserve their culture, compared to the british that only brought death and poverty.
@joseanfigueroa8785
@joseanfigueroa8785 Год назад
Incredible cruelty? How were the conquistadors more cruel than other conquerors throughout history?
@wesleywarsmith1113
@wesleywarsmith1113 Год назад
The size differences would be huge at this point in history . The natives of the Mexican peninsula where much shorter then the common Mexican today who is already short by European standards. They are several inches taller today with the inclusion of Spanish, Portuguese, and other blood. The natives would be just over five feet tall making them a much easier prey for the dogs.
@MrChileno13
@MrChileno13 Год назад
There are registers of the natives being taller than the europeans of that time.
@justintime753
@justintime753 Год назад
That's a terrifying thought.
@EdubertoPalitroke
@EdubertoPalitroke Год назад
"Tómala" can be translated to the verb "to take", which is synonymous to "coger". Nowadays, at least in a big portion of latin America, "coger" is... the most vulgar way to describe to process of human procreation, if you know what I mean. Therefore, the popular consensus leads to believe that we (since I'm an Argentinian, just like El Diego) use "coger" to describe fornicating, since the Spaniards used the word "cógela" meaning 'take it', regarding native females, just like you're referring to the command "tómala".
@tonystoops7802
@tonystoops7802 2 года назад
I have two pit mixes. They are very gentle with kids and and girls, but won't let teenage boys near me. I'm a man, by the way.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 2 года назад
Dogs can be protective. My pit mix is a big baby but my shepherd has my back.
@leesenger3094
@leesenger3094 Год назад
Have you ever been a rat terrier attacking rats? They annihilate dozens and dozens in minutes. Now imagine a mastiff weighing almost twice as much as a native who is terrified. It is possible
@justintime753
@justintime753 Год назад
That's a good way to put it honestly
@crystalbluebutterfly
@crystalbluebutterfly 11 месяцев назад
Fucking disgusting!
@ludwigderzanker9767
@ludwigderzanker9767 Год назад
Much obliged again. Thank you for the very way this man's best friends got I learned a lesson tonight sir! Seems similar to german war dogs long after Arminius, pictures show the same breed. Anyway, it's a cruelty thing to abuse animals in that way 😢. God's Blessings from Northern Germany Ludwig.
@nazillikaivasgreensfirst2012
Imagine standing on the battlefield, the sound of bones being crushed and flesh being torn as screams of agony come from under the bodies of giant beasts. Power. Power can be terrifying when unleashead without regard for its capacity.
@sparklestonebro
@sparklestonebro Год назад
It's almost certainly important to realize for people comparing them to "My dog" or "Dogs I've seen" are completely misled. These are war dogs. They were surely bred for an amount of time we can only imagine for the purposes of killing. It's extremely easy to imagine that over all the time since these events the dog breeds involved were bred weaker and weaker to the household sorts we have nowadays. To doubt the dog's ability to tear through humans is to doubt the humans ability to manipulate and alter the form of canines to our desires (which is something anyone whose seen a pug and a wolf knows is the height of folly). For far longer than we've had to breed the dogs of today into their form, these dogs were bred for a far harder world and a far more brutal purpose from the days of the Romans.
@slugshell2901
@slugshell2901 4 месяца назад
2:45 Love how this morbid story comes from this relatively simple book.
@batchelerjr
@batchelerjr Год назад
Great history lesson. The right way
@yarp123123123123123
@yarp123123123123123 Год назад
and the british get a bad rep, the spanish was just as bad.
@ComboMuster
@ComboMuster Год назад
Conquistadors were not horrible people they were the product of those violent times. Imagine yourself (poor soldier with no money or possessions with no future) being 4000 miles from home with a handful of compatriots and no back up and in front of you a culture more gruesome than you could imagine (human sacrifices, cannibalism) I don't think you gonna bring them flowers... For my part I believe Conquistadors were the sharp edge of human race.
@trey9775
@trey9775 Год назад
“Horrible people” is an understatement for invaders who barbarically massacre millions of innocent people unprovoked.
@ComboMuster
@ComboMuster Год назад
@@trey9775 Conquistadores never went to look for people to conquer. They were looking for a route to do trade with other people and stumbled across a barbaric obscene backward culture and were horrified of what they saw. The 'millions' you talking about never existed in the whole history.
@trey9775
@trey9775 Год назад
@@ComboMuster any book from primary source accounts will tell u the The sadistic invading Europeans u people celebrate indiscriminately fed natives to dogs, murdered, raped, enslaved and looted in the name of the pedo Catholic Church. They wrote about all of this in their own personal diaries.
@deneenhill5913
@deneenhill5913 Год назад
@@ComboMuster murderous encounters was exactly their mission. Read history
@ComboMuster
@ComboMuster Год назад
@@deneenhill5913 I read history, you should too. Conquistadors were the edge of humanity.
@luisvasquez8625
@luisvasquez8625 11 месяцев назад
Fun Fact: these dogs of war were starved for days up until the point of insanity then they were released on the native population
@michaelmunoz8014
@michaelmunoz8014 Год назад
I am confident becerillo was an LGD dog because back at that time any massive dog was called a mastiff. The spanish mastiff counts more as an lgd but in the past they looked more like middle eastern lgds. Im confident becerillo looked like a black Sarabi dog.
@csmats5374
@csmats5374 Год назад
Judging the distant past of different cultures through the lens of current American cultural decay is irrational. The wars you describe, specifically the cruelty, were (and still are) part of the human condition since the dawn of tribal combat. Do you blame lions for beginning to eat their prey before the prey is even dead? Or for killing all the cubs whenever new males take over a pride? Of course not, so why blame humans for engaging in typical human behavior? You also understand that the atrocities went both ways, don't you? And that atrocities occurred tribe-on-tribe on an ongoing basis among the native populations for eons before the arrival of Europeans? Yet you condemn the Europeans just because they were better at killing the enemy than the enemy was at killing them? Rank, patent, arrogantly condescending nonsense. As to the relative nanosecond of history being experienced in America post-WWII, I say it's decadent because (1) the vast majority of our population is so soft both physically and mentally that we have no idea whatsoever what the human condition even is and would shrivel up and die en masse in short order if even just the single technology of electricity was taken away from us, which (2) has made us arrogantly claim intellectual superiority over all people both past and present, and therefore moral authority even though there's no logical connection between the two, simultaneously with America now being the very source of a large majority of the strife, poverty and death in the world today. Witness the senseless proxy war we're waging in Ukraine at this very moment, causing the needless deaths of an entire generation of young Ukrainian men (and already digging into the previous and next generations with kids and old men being conscripted into combat as cannon fodder), just because the powers-that-be need a bogeyman in Putin to distract public attention from their own massive and ongoing failures. You are not nearly as morally superior as you obviously believe. Get off your high horse and just talk history objectively, if you can.
@csmats5374
@csmats5374 Год назад
@@TM-ch3hl Lol, projection is not a good look. You might want to try another.
@Valkyrieslikemead
@Valkyrieslikemead Год назад
I loved the last comment. "They were all good boys but used for evil."
@charleneray8242
@charleneray8242 Год назад
Very interesting story
@randyl5205
@randyl5205 Год назад
Could use a bit of acoustic padding in that room you record in. Audio quality could use a bump up, great stuff anyway.
@masterofnone8400
@masterofnone8400 2 года назад
Don't know if they were evil men, perhaps by our standards, I would just say they were ordinary men of their time
@TS10852
@TS10852 Год назад
I think most people even at the time would have been disturbed by violence like that. The conquistadores were hardened professional soldiers in a time where constant brutal warfare was the norm and if they lost they were likely to be treated just as badly by the Indians. We only see one side because they didn't loose.
@sebastianbancroft7184
@sebastianbancroft7184 2 месяца назад
No you’re absolutely right. They were good hearted, upstanding men
@elcoyote9410
@elcoyote9410 Год назад
Top of the list is using existing tribal rivalries to help conquer empires. Hands down. Without the Tlaxcalteca warriors the Soanish had no chance defeating the Aztecs. Also still passing on the Black Legend I see. Spanish not kind like protestant Anglo conquerors, I mean explorers
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