@@mmmbrunommm3 It was a decision of the US Commerce department to blacklist Huawei and 70 of its affiliates from the US market, plus an executive order prohibiting any US company from supplying Huawei with technologies, services or products. If you think a company the size of Google can up and leave like that, you're naive.
@@ErebosGR I was talking about their decision to allow spying on their customers. Now, about the decisions you're talking, that was just market protection, it's clear the Chinese are well into their way of becoming the leading company in 5G. So the US government is working against them, doing what competition and free market should have done. This isn't about security.
Why open source is important? Well for one thing, this. We might be all nice and cozy in our google-bubble, and face no problems, but we can't outrun how weak individual companies can be. Strong open source projects (like android) are a general solution, which can't be undone by goverment or a single company. That's why we need an open source alternatives for microsoft and google, these companies are too important to us.
Android isn't as open source like it used to be deviceatlas.com/blog/android-forks-why-google-can-rest-easy-for-now arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/
Danny Winget ----- You're right, well explained. One key is what happened to ZTE. Trump banned them, and then a few days later allowed them to sell in the US. This smacks of bribery, with Trump or his son-in-law receiving a bribe. Trump is President to make money for Trump. Anyone who thinks Trump really cares about US national security is naive. He's already lifted the ban for a few months and if Huawei comes through with money for Trump, they will be allowed to do business in the US.
@Feel good Inc. Yup. Each chinese company has a communist party department. Their government can directly control companies if they want to, it is in their law.
Yes, the knowledge that people would trust china more than us companies because of "Drumph". It's just pure derangement, people strangely proud of thinking within the box.
Cesar Mufunga not just in Chinese language but intended only for Chinese and its culture. So to defend them for having its own AppStore isn’t gonna help ppl outside China since its services doesn’t comply to our demand.
@@CC-tk9xw I was just laying down the facts i knew that were not mentioned in the vodeo. I have no reason to defend or hate on Huawei, this is a mess i can not stick my hands in.
1) About network security, US concern is justifiable but any networking equipment manufacturers can potentially do the acts that HW is accused of. 2) EU and non-US companies should be wary of US from now. They need to quickly independent from US hardware and software techs. If not, Trump or any future US presidents can simply do a “Huawei” on them and held hostage by US.
This is my perspective as a US citizen. The problem with HW specifically is that they are China-based company. If the Chinese government was to come to them and order them to do something, then they would have to do it just stay in business in China. Since China on the whole is still very communist, the concern is that they might ask [insert company here] to leverage their influence to spy on the US, or compromise our political process. All that being said, it sounds reasonable to assume that President Trump is using this as leverage against the Chinese in the trade conflict. Obviously, that’s pretty darn unethical.
@@connormccloy9399 One correction I would respectfully add is that China today is by no means "communist" (well, that if your understanding of "communism" is economically defined, then no, China is not communist).
I was referring to the political and economic institutions of China together, but it is true that there are some capitalist elements in the economy of China today.
@@connormccloy9399 That's not unethical for geopolitics, ethics don't exist when it comes to nation-state conflict because each is going to prioritize their citizens over the other's. It's just a matter of perspective, but I'd much rather we use every bit of leverage we can to force China back in line. People forget that China pulled this same shit on western companies probably thousands of times, for the longest time they wouldn't let Google into China unless they put Chinese spyware into their products. China didn't suddenly gain the knowledge to produce network equipment and phones by chance, they stole that information through a variety of methods from outright espionage to forcing companies to disclose Intellectual property to do business in China. China has forced established companies out of the country and then turned around and used those factories to produce the same product under their own brand name. They subsidize shipping costs so Chinese goods out-compete everyone else, they slap massive tariffs on western goods, they outright prohibit many products from entering China to protect domestic producers, they have been doing the same and worse as Trump for over a decade and now people act like we're the bad guys for responding. Fuck that, everyone needs to stand up to China right now while we still can or we will be economically steamrolled within just a few more decades.
@@noelmedina6925 even if not its alright.. You don't necessarily need to have the latest software... I'm still running on android 5 on my primary phone... Good enough for almost all every day tasks.
@@noelmedina6925 it wont be a waste of money. Huawei usually give updates for longer than most companies. Even many 2 year old mid range phones were about to get android 9.1 just before the ban was announced
Huawei is the biggest producer of networking equipment in the world, if i remember correctly. Most people know them because of the phones, but networking is where they are way bigger. My point is that the telecom sales ban will probably hurt them a lot more than the android one. The android problem is talked about more, because most people have seen Huawei as a phone manufacturer and have no idea they make a lot of networking equipment.
@@marktrinidad7650 Yes it does, but every news outlet is focused on the phone aspect of it. And while that is important, the networking one is much more impactful for Huawei and every country that uses its networking gear. That is more than half of the world basically.
The ban is directly related to the network architecture. The reason they dont talk about it is because some people start thinking and realize that the US is lagging behind and needed to pull a hard stop on the competition. USA as a country if it can't compete, it bullies and plays unfairly.
@@Neanderthal75 Oh yeah, you are totally correct on that one, no question there. That is why everyone should be talking about it! I guess networking equipment is just one of those things that people dont see every day (or ever for most people), and they do see phones every day, so that is why they focus on that one? I'm just speculating here.
Well to be honest almost all international politics boil down to blackmail, fraud, conspiracy, and bribery (forgot threatening). And the reason is simply they work and most alternatives do not or at the bear minimum are far far less effective.
@@areskrieger5890 I guess you can add kidnapping too, which in all honesty was started by the US. China seems to be big on tit for tat, every time the US does something China returns the favour. At least China has contingency plans, the US didn't, thats why the US had to reverse the ban for 90 days because they have no contingency plans or anything in place. At present this IS a cold war and the US is loosing it quite badly.
Realistically, Huawei outside China is done. Outside techy bubble from which most of people watching this, people don't any details as to what happens. All they know is that you can't watch RU-vid on Huawei...that's enough to cross it out the moment they hear it.
@Feel good Inc. Funny guy. I haven't seen any proof yet that huawei is being sponsored by Chinese government. And from other side google, apple, microsoft, amazon and all other big US companies are officially selling data to CIA and not only that, they're being sponsored by government by tax cuts. For example Amazon payed nothing last year in taxes while my small internet store has to pay tens of thousands of dollars in taxes. So how I'm supposed to compete against amazon then?
@Feel good Inc. Secret gov operations are more of a Western thing, you know, for your own protection. You seem very "protected" and naive about your own country.
@@toms8812 It is very well known China backs its businesses and really supports the ones that do their bidding. Amazon employs thousands of people hence the tax cuts. Yes it is hard to compete but even without tax cuts people will shop online for convenience even if the prices are comparable and most of the time they are.
I feel that this is the beginning of the end of the US monopoly in smartphone and OS fields. Everyone is going to be careful dealing with them going forward.
Either way how the situation goes, it really will make many foreign companies be more-careful in terms of both trading sums of components or resources to the US and also the relevance of their Tech in the US market and whether they comply with US law and not just US law, but how the higher-ups in the US think.
China is not the only one. China Russia Iran irak Syria and even saudi arabia all countries that want to ditch the dollar. and its going to happen soon as well. china is already trading their oil in euros and their own currency. america is a literal joke.
@@982-o4e they already doing that. dollar is not worth much anymore www.rt.com/business/444712-russia-china-dollar-sanctions/ they are ditching the dollar pretty much. it takes some time but they are ditching it. lots of middle eastern countries are doing it www.rt.com/business/447915-top-states-ditching-dollar/
It's not really about 5G specifically though, it's about blocking _any_ new network equipment installations from Chinese companies whether it is 5G or not.
@Inked Sleeve You *do* realize that many sophisticated hackers, plus _any_ motivated Corporation or Government can _remotely_ hack into _any_ Android phone Edit: [worldwide, even with the power off but battery still installed]? And iOS is demonstrably hackable hands-on?
Korakys Yes you are right. But now 5G is in game and it’s great amount of money that is going in infrastructure all over the world. That is the reason why I mentioned 5G specifically.
Inked Sleeve But since you want to talk about spying I have question for you. You know that USA government is spying whole world over Google and Apple Service, using whole internet, and you know that all big USA tech companies are working with US army including mobile operators. Sooooooo... my question to you is do you understand what am I talking about or I need to elaborate? You have to know that I am not into China or USA so I don’t cheer for neither country. I do only care about tech and for people that are enjoying in that tech.
Great video and also pretty cool new music. Hey can I add Spanish captions to your video? I'd love to share it to some of my friends that don't speak English
As an old guy (45), I remember how when the internet started everything was fragmented. Then after two decades everthing was monopolized by a few giants. And as a European it felt almost embarrasing that all the unicorns were from the US. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that this is a good oppertuneity to start new tech European companies that represent European values - ECOSIA for example. Why not make a "non-profit Facebook" while we are at it?
As some others have commented. We, the EU citizens have to be fully aware when it comes to the economic "policies" of the United States. We have to understand, that in some manner, we are subject to blackmail, spying and massive compromise to appease our "ally".
It really sucks, Huawei pushed boundaries, they have conferences for students in 3rd would countries like mine and honestly apart from their China communist origins, which I don't think stands for much, they really seem to be an awesome company that's always on the forefront
You are incredibly naive. The Chinese government will see the world burn if they become more powerful than the U.S. They want to take Hong Kong by force, despite the Hong Kong people hating them. They want to take Taiwan, despite the Taiwanese resistance to never join the Chinese. They threatens Japan and constantly trying to undermine the Japanese. They took over the Eastern sea despite the sea belonging to other countries as well. They are the worst government on Earth, much worse than the Russians.
@@caesar9708 Worse than korea? I didnt think that was possible. Also I try not to believe everything the media feeds you, just as the chinese manipulates their media and monitors their people, the US does too. Every country (I would hope) has it's own interests at heart. Don't forget how much the US f'd over Iran syria, and tries to say it's the people that were inherently corrupt. Also if you're looking for another government worse than china try Venezuela.
@@caesar9708 Hong Kong has always been part of China. We leased it to U.K. Now it returns. Taiwan issue is arguable, depends on how you view Republuc of China and People republic of China, which both claimed to be China. And as of Japan, a country that invaded China and eventually got fucked by U.S. nuclear bomb, they deserve it.
@@bertnijhof5413 "Avoid US Parts, OS and Services at all cost" is Easier said than Done. It's nearly IMPOSSIBLE for your smartphone to work without those. How are you going to sell your smartphone w/o US parts??? It's like saying Car makers should stop using engines and motors on their cars when making a Car.
Bert Nijhof What about the operating system it runs? Android. SD card, and other major components are From the US. Android is also from the US. If Samsung avoided Android they will sell Zero phones. Processor isn’t enough to encourage ppl to buy a phone
No, they'd be DOOMED pretty much anywhere anyway. Because as a viewer of this channel, you are propably more into tech and installing the play services would be easy as pie. But the vast majority of people is tech wise is as dumb as they could humanly possible be. Wich means: Nobody except for Tech people would still buy their phones. And we are in an absolute minority.
@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 yeah but it would still give us (the tech people) the ability to install the play services. Better than giving noone the ability to do that
@@bspringer Yes, but then on the other hand, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to sell those phones anywhere outside of China. Because exporting phones is kinda cost intensive. And since only tech people MIGHT buy em, it simply wouldn't be worth it at all.
Trump is basically mirroring what China does to US corporations, but to a lesser degree. If he wanted the full Monte, he'd get Chinese businesses to have a board with members of his party, and require Chinese businesses to share their tech and patents in order to operate in the US. The US trade deficit with China is no joke and something needs to be done about it. I can't say that Orange man's policies will turn out to be the best, but they are something at least. Also, the banning from infrastructure makes sense. The potential damage an adversarial government can do to infrastructure if relations degrade is immesurable.
@@OutOfNamesToChoose Thank you, everybody is having this knee-jerk "Trump bad" reaction while even the NYT and CNN have been writing articles about China's abuse of the global free market. People don't seem to understand how different China operates, and I don't understand how they can defend them when they've got over a million ethnic minorities in "reeducation" camps just because they're not Han Chinese. It's the world's biggest Apartied state and yet they claim America is run by Nazis, give me a break, go to North Western China if you want to see racial oppression and genocide for real.
Aditya Tiwari I wouldn’t use a Huawei OS because it’s literally selling data to Chinese government but I would love a new OS for real. I wish Sailfish was more intuitive & successful and wished Windows had a comeback because the tiles layout were 💜
This is either dishonest or lacking basic knowledge about the tech industry. He simply doesn't understand how the world business and technological ecology is managed [by the Americans]. This isn't about app stores or today's microprocessors. Control of the tech industry is based on "core technologies" which is why other companies such as ARM and Panasonic have The Americans develop the tools and core technologies of all these countries - including China. It's about "tomorrow's processors" and core technologies. That's why ARM and Panasonic have no choice but to fall in line. If the UK or Japan challenge the Americans, the Americans will cut off technology transfers to them, and their tech sectors fall behind (ie they suffer the same "Death sentence" as Huawei). ARM and Panasonic don't "Design" the next generation so much as they use the tools and processes to "localize" US technology. It is one thing to use a template and design software to model a distributed element design for a fabless company. But guess who designs that software? What happens if the Americans - who design that software - develop new software incorporating sub-nm (picometer) technology nodes? It's already happened in fact. That Berkley Lab stunt was conducted by a washout of the US industry - it's common in US R&D for the creme of the crop to advance within the US heirarchy, while the burnouts are sent to college labs to develop graduates. Translation: the Berkley lab "amateurs" merely demonstrated a technology that already outstrips even the most advanced node available in China, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Germany, etc. They know that these are mere "student amateurs", and that the novices who are still in the industrial labs and R&D - not college labs. Some often become entrepreneurs and create their own companies. Regardless, all of this is under the oversight of various American departments from DOE to DOD. Eventually, the fabrication processes and machinery from the American industry (because the real pure-fucking-magic is being able to manufacture these "devices" in the billions - and now, trillions - per die consistently and efficiently over millions of units) will be contracted out to their subsidiaries in Taiwan and South Korea - and they will make their own "tweaks" to further develop this core technology - because that is what TSMC and Samsung are - large foundries and localization mills. ARM's and Panasonic's technology (and therefore Huawei) IS ALREADY OBSOLETE. They were obsolete even before the rollout of "5G" - laser-technology, node fabrication per die, core instruction, material engineering, network system security, etc - all of it is "US origin". The Americans have NEVER been stupid enough to give Japan and the UK (which they knew would simply be given to the Chinese) a rung on the ladder without already having scaled two or three rungs higher. It's the same with their military; by the time people see the stealth bomber's public unveiling, the Americans have already secretly developed their GCCS ATC for unmanned aerial vehicles and e-bombs and direct-energy systems. So on and so forth. Remember NEC? "The most powerful semiconductor monopoly in the world"? The Japanese were acting in 1986 like the Chinese are now - claiming they could dictate geopolitical affairs to America, Akio Morita claiming "The Japan that can say 'No'". So what happened? Intel, IBM, Cray, Motorola, Micron, etc, denied their technology to NEC - and went to South Korea and Taiwan and said "Do you want Japan's job" for their next generation? We all know the two biggest companies they contracted to, right? TSMC and Samsung. Within 5 years, NEC's volume collapses by 70%. Japan INC is finished. Incidentally, Motorola focused on shifting its contracts to China - and got taken for all it's worth. Neither South Korea nor Taiwan (nor recently Japan) has dared to transfer THEIR technology to China either - they know their only negotiating leverage is their access to America ...and if Americans suspect that they are selling out, the Americans will fire Samsung and TSMC just like they did NEC. Huawei and DTE are - in fact - less powerful than NEC was in 1986. They are finished. Even if the PRC tries to prop up both (jsut as Japan's treasury and MITI tried to prop up NEC), it will never be able to out-innovate the American technology sector. If TSMC or Samsung were ever to buck the Americans, the Americans among Applied Materials, IBM, Micron, etc, would simply do to Samsung and TSMC what their predescessors did to NEC. Buck the Americans, and you better be prepared to out-innovate them in a tech war. The Soviet Union tried to compete in the 60s and the 80s, losing badly the first time, dying the second time. The Japanese and many others tried this....they've all never tried a second time. I anticipate China will be given a second chance after this dust-up. After a second infraction, they'll be given a technological Death Sentence on the order of Iran or Russia - sure, they can "survive", but in technologically stunted state. China is a continuation of the old "Asia co-Prosperity Sphere". And like a retread of the Pan-Asian ideal, it will fall behind the Americans just as its predecessor fell behind in the 1930s - while the Japanese-led Pan-Asians were busy copying British and German technology, the Americans developed the world's first semiconductors, the first practical robots, the first Control and stability analysis which gave birth to modern and systems engineering, the first modern programming languages, etc.... long before the attacked Pearl Harbor. The People's republic of "China" finished what the Japanese sought to achieve - an Asian superstate built on the ashes of a once separate Orient (much as the EU is trying to suborn individual cultures to create a superstate). In 1973, this "China" changed sides to become a vassal state of America, with America dumping 80 million metric tons of food in East Asia (crashing the price of food in the region and stopping China's famines) while making a security and food deal with the Muslims to supply China with enough oil (America was already supplying itself, Japan, South korea, Taiwan, etc with oil and didn't have enough output to supply a vassal state as big as China). It had to expand the money supply by taking the dollar off the gold standard to finance all this. So the Chinese have had it good....maybe too good. And now that China's gotten too big for its britches, it needs to be taken down a peg. The Americans won't starve China the same way it didn't starve Germany, Japan, Israel, etc, because this isn't personal. It's Business. But if China doesn't back down, America will eventually stop all trade and give China's jobs to someone else - India, Myanmar, Bangledesh, Indonesia, Brazil, including all the current vassal states from Taiwan to Australia wants those jobs). If the US wants to make the pain more acute (not necessary, but just out of spite), Trump can cancel all of China's US treasuries (they're all serialized for a reason) with stroke of his pen, or blockade China's oil in the Indian Ocean with the US Navy, or simply humiliate China internally by building an embassy in Taiwan....the first option itself will kill China's economy, the second will be just a threat in case the Muslims think they don't want to play ball (they will, and so oil will continue to flow to Japan and Europe, while China joins Iran in threatening to blow up the tankers), the third will simply be a matter of playing China's "face-games" against itself.
@@Terrekain Okay may be most RU-vidrs and viewers have no clue how the world business and technological ecology *managed by the west and east*, not one single one video on youtube right now contains 100% correct content. But, Mind you, all of this is based on Trump and His team CLAIMED that China is Controlling Huawei, or has a concern that Huawei will be forced to disclose any info stored in their company's database, the point is some way in US, National Securities can manage to track and trace any Americans. This topic gets politically very fast and it IS political. Facts remain is US still had not disclosed to the public one solid fact that Huawei Equipment had been used to tap into data or any spy action. This is making people thinking just a tactic play by Trump to get a better deal form China on the Trade War that is going on right now. It is not looking good for either side right now.
Very well researched and brought to the point. BTW - While I very much appreciate the fancy animations, this type of video is great for a news format you could be doing :) Thank You!
USA showed us how far they can go when it comes to their monopoly. I think now other countries should come together and build an ecosystem like Map and other services together which nobody will own and work with combine effort of all nations . They did this to Huawei they can do this to anyone .
honestly I feel that many companies that depended on someone else or worked at all with someone else from foreign nations are going to have to possibly isolate themselves as to make sure that every redundancy is in-check especially if they expect to get an attack or ban as big as this. But I do agree that other countries should be able to build a huge ecosystem, just the problem is, even if no single country is a monopoly, this entire ecosystem will have it's dependencies somewhere, in different places, but still somewhere, and any of those places will not be at a benefit if the whole ecosystem itself is the monopoly considering profits are going to each other in that ecosystem. Perhaps there might be a way around this.
China banned Google, banned Amazon and has pretty much huge tariffs on everything. They ban everything, copy it 100%, put another name on it and sell it as their own. So... you're wrong, big time.
@@lucioinnocenzo2328 Only reason for these restrictions is that they don't want to allow American sewer mindset, propaganda and bigotry to flood into their country. Simple guy
This is from my understanding of the issue (as an american). Chinese companies have unfair advantages under China's membership to the WTO. Many of them are subsidized, propped up, or aided by the state in ways that give them huge competitive advantages over companies abroad. Many of their companies are essentially huge state monopolies that undercut competition. This is besides their coercion or forced ownership over companies and their products that want to do business in the country, and their stealing of intellectual property. In order to make the market more fair for everyone, they have to (in the view of trump and many americans) play by the same rules as everybody else. Also, in response to the other comments on this one: China's firewall blocks many foreign websites, like google, amazon, etc. You literally cannot access them in China without a VPN. A free market does not mean NO rules. It means fair rules that promote competition. The US is not perfect and this is all a little too much in my opinion, but there are legit concerns. It isn't trump just being angry and pressing buttons, there is real economic reasons behind all of this. I disagree with trump on nearly everything, but something had to be done in this case. Maybe this is not the right way to do it, but it is all allowed under the WTO I guess.
They don't want to allow bigotry? Tell that to the Uighur or the victims at Tiananmen Square. China is not a country that places human rights high on their list of priorities. I will concede that they are concerned about our "sewer mindset". Our culture has "progressed" to the point of debauchery to a lot of eastern cultures. Bottom line is that China is immensely powerful and motivated, more than willing to justify their means to achieve their success, and have a well established history of subversive tactics. We can not underestimate potential security risks from them.
@Tuperwear Not true. I am not Chinese and I support Hauwei. Iphone sucks. Once Apple intentionally slowed down my phone in order to make me buy a new phone. Samsung did similar thing with my note 4. Both suck.
@@sleepingbanshee_ samsung is basically an american company..u know. south korea lost their samsung ownership to the US like 10 years ago..now its shareholder is 55% american
It's sad that the world is starting to become separated again, It was going so well for so many time. Have people just forgot the things that happened when it was like this?
Definitely best breakdown! I saw a post somewhere that says that every smartphone maker is making its own store and now this ban means that Android (google android) was never meant to make all companies start together. This 10 year period was just a teaser for everyone else that we're going back to Nokia era
If bootloader codes were available again, custom ROMs could be a loophole. As of right now, that's not the case. American logic: If we can't spy on them, might as well ban them. Edit: Oh and reliable source for apps is uptodown. They have provided me for a while, and I have no issues with them.
But the custom roms are needed to be compatible with the Huawei phone kernal and internals which will probably be on a ban list automatically on Google services
America: we've had our global spying network uncovered, better shift attention to another country's spying to make sure be maintain the illusion of freedom and security!
This is about China's potential to spy on the US and other countries, not the other way around. That assertion by the US govt has been in place for almost a decade. But I like what you did there, flipping the primary argument in the name of edgy-anti.
@@turbochargedshower4488 You have a good point there. But this would a good step in right direction. We have seen community do some amazing stuff with phones through out years. I would definitely say it could be possible to mask the device, in order to pass through the security checks. It's not ideal by any means, however it would give a loophole for existing users.
@@touchnova No I wasn't doing that. I was just talking about current possible solutions, for Huawei and Honor users. US did a disgusting move, because they always wanted and are wanting to monopolize on everything. Smaller countries have to deal with this stuff on daily basis. And if we talk security, last time I saw Google, Facebook and even Microsoft were paying fees for braking rules. They are always collecting data. China always had it's problems with government control, but those problems didn't affect world wide users. Usually all of their issues stay in their country. There's no perfect country on this planet, and we have to work together if we want a better place for everyone.
Imagine if huawei create an OPEN Source store with its own open source service where developer can build app for that store with all the revenue goes to developer....I am in for it
It's easier said than done, nokia failed because of their OS and that was when they had huge market share, they could have further developed their OS to be competitive with android but they weren't able to.
@@teddycat1212 it WONT happen if google doesnt start contributing to the repo, but even it will happen, for a dev deploying to the google store is nore profitable cause much more people are going to buy it there
@@Tater_Lord many people in here don't understand what you just explained... I've had so many of these arguments for no reason the US wins here China loses
in the long run, Google will be the biggest loser because many companies will start making their own operating systems hence reducing Android's market share.
Making app development even more convoluted? No thanks. Software development in general needs to be as universal as web develoment and Flutter is a step in the correct direction.
That's not how OS works. It take decades for a new OS to make an acceptable ecosystem and most companies will fail miserably if they ever want to try which I find highly unlikely to happen.
“Damaged reputation for the US as a reliable trade partner that follows the rule of law” tell that to China as well so they stop infringing on US Companies‘ intellectual properties and lift protectionist policies that limits competition.
#Huawei Bring a Chinese OS to the world. Give the US what they earn - a strong competition/a fight the US won't win. I am sick of US dependence and I stick with Huawei.
Huawei is nothing more than a Chinese State-owned enterprise. I am from Taiwan and Huawei equipment are banned from telecom networks. Chip makers would pull out of China and move to countries for example Vietnam,Taiwan, or Mexico so to escape tariffs anyway. I used Chinese OS and it's trash. Crashes all the time,running certain apps just freezes,and having software that it's un installable. You are probably a member of the CCP. If you are sick of US dependence,why are you using this website? why not Renren,Youku,tudou etc?
@@jimbo-dev You can't even flash an AOSP rom without an unlocked bootloader. Plus, if you want push notifications, Google apps and other features of the Google Play services, you'll need to install MicroG. F-droid alone doesn't solve everything.
@@ErebosGR Correct! My point was that you don't need to unlock to install apks. I hope huawei manages to push enough developer to get rid of google services. That would really benefit the open source community
my theory.🙄 1.the Google apps will not be pre installed, you'll have to install them by yourself...somethings like happened to Microsoft. 2.may be Google will create another side of business somewhere outside of USA, with its services available to all phone companies /customers. 3. Huawei's own OS
@@ksavampire As a huawei phone user in China. I can understand that AppGallery has to comply to governmental censorship, but huawei was never shy away from removing apps whose interest didn't align with huawei's.
So Chinese companies spying on citizens of other countries on behalf of the Chinese government and the CONSTANT theft of IP on behalf of Chinese companies and the Chinese government isn't what ended this era that you claim supposedly existed?
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932I'm not blaming anyone just stating the fact that what was hidden is now public in IT wars. Its not what i said. But now russia, brazil, india, germany and basically whoever can afford will develop they own IT ecosystems this is rolling back advancement of a decade.
Hi everyone! Please help me out here, I have some trouble understanding. I have a Huawei Mate 20 phone and a Matebook 13. Will my devices keep working with the current software, but without updates?
What are they going to do, catch fire and blow up at night? Even if you will one day lose functionality of Google's geolocation services and PlayMarket (which I think Google will try to work around as much as possible so as not to piss their existing customers, because it's their part of ToS too), none of Google's services are irreplaceable. Google says all their existing customers with Huawei devices will keep access to the GP services.
@@HNBGamer You forget that MS has never been able in creating any good OS, only to force their product upon developers. Huawei will blantely copy Android and attract developers with 100% profit margins, for they don't need to make any, but only expand their (Chinas) influence on sector.
@@drumsmoker731 huawei cooperates with android, and they can still use their open source as they said in this video, or use their own os, as said in this video, damn, hater sure hates
Great video. Just would like to elaborate on the "the 3 months of stock" that you mentioned, as you said Huawei had previously thought about a situation like today's: it's actually not a stock of US manufacturers' chips. There is a company called HiSilicon, a subsidiary of Huawei. For years this company has been secretly developing Huawei's own chips and processors, preparing for the worst-case scenario that one day Huawei may lose access to US chips. Huawei has never used these chips, and HiSilicon did all the R&D work knowing its products may never be used. But now it finally paid off. Huawei's own chips are actually getting really good, to the extent that the ban on US chips will not seriously affect Huawei's 5G construction. There is an interview on youtube that you can look up, with Huawei's CEO Zhengfei Ren.
Don't know if you noticed but many major phone manufacturers are slowly moving to India. This will further hasten the India transition. The biggest winner here is not China or usa its India.
We need to start paying attention on Open Hardware. As we can already see, the only part that trade disasters like this cannot touch is AOSP. Because it's open source, Huawei will continue to have access to AOSP. There is similar concept to open source for hardware devices, Open Hardware, which have been building open source hardware schematics that anyone can take, use and improve on, and their production lines. We need people to work on these projects to ensure that technology will remain neutral and not politically weaponised. The only "good" fallout from this might be the deconstruction of American companies' monopoly in CPU and other computer components. In a decade or so every government and large companies will remember this ban as the reason why they can't rely on non-open hardware and software for their critical tech stack.
Even if USA gov reverse the ban won't be the same, foreign companies will be scaried to do business with USA companies that could suspend their services suddenly without any evidences.
The fuck has this to do with apple, in fact Tim Cook is probably really dissapointed for such a shitty decision since the China Goverment can cut relationships with the US meaning that apple cant assembly the iphonr in china anymore which would be devastating
I recently purchased a Huawei matebook x pro and am now not sure if I should return it, after hearing about this ban. I really do love this computer but if the ban interferes with windows I'd probably have to return it. Can anyone please give me some advice on what to do?
A good trader uses all the tools in the box, to get closer to his objective. There is no fair trade play with China possible with the current conditions. New rules have to be established, for real free trade to happen between the US and China. China exports 540B to the US. -- US exports 120B to China and yet China has a population that is 4x bigger than the US. Trade is unbalanced due to China placing high tariffs on American goods. US government is trying to bring it back the balance. Some of the Banned sites in China. (list runs in the thousands) 1 Google 2 Facebook 3 RU-vid 4 Yahoo 5 Instagra 6 Twitter
@@nevStudios Sure, but it obviously doesn't have the same support from companies/developers that the Google Play Store does. Convincing companies to dedicate the additional resources to make apps for another platform is not going to be easy for them.
The effect of this ban would only help huawei develop their own software and hardware. And they will do it best. just like when they were denied nuclear tech and gps.
