THE HUNGER GAMES: THE BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS & SNAKES MOVIE REACTION - EXPLORING PANEM'S PAST! - Review

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Welcome to our first-time reacting to The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes!
"The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes" takes us back to the Capitol's dark history, following a young Coriolanus Snow played marvelously by actor Tom Blyth as he mentors a tribute from District 12 that goes by the name Lucy Gray Baird played by Rachel Zegler. This film continues it's intricate narrative the Hunger Games saga is known for as it explores the evolution of the games. Director Francis Lawrence did a phenomenal job at recreating the atmosphere from the previous films. And writer Suzanne Collins brought back the political intrigue, moral dilemmas, and the dystopian world that set the stage for the iconic series.
We hope you enjoy our reactions, commentary and discussions as we immerse ourselves in the storytelling that this fantastic film has to offer. We'll delve into the elements that make this film standout to us.
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@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Hey guys! We are so excited to dive back into Panem. What did you guys think about this film? Have you got the chance to read the book yet? Let us know your thoughts ❤ If you enjoyed the reaction do us a solid and hit the like button (it helps us out a lot) and if you'd like to catch our next reactions subscribe and make us infinitely happy 😁If you'd like to support the channel and gain access to the full length reaction become a member of our patreon bit.ly/3ICVrJ6 Watch our reactions early: ru-vid.com/show-UCiCUz1bHid4H9mu6g2IOjXgjoin

@tibitzu365 4 месяца назад

You two are my favourite movie react channel

@sleeples7852 4 месяца назад

I loved this movie so much it was done amazingly. Lucy's dress had Katniss flowers and snakes on it. Every little detail. But you won't understand fully why snow is haunted by Lucy without listening to the end credit song "can't catch me now" Katniss reminds him of Lucy, he is so paranoid of her ending him. Great reaction. I loved the commentary and yes they did make us like snow. Young snow was such a complex and interesting character that with no doubt would have done good in the world if he hadn't gotten corrupted. Paninem (snow looking like Eminem) is where it went south real fast

@segasaturn3238 4 месяца назад

Hello Je vous propose quelques films à voir si vous les connaissez pas. Ça pourrait faire de bonnes vidéos réaction. - the myst - the Shallows - 47 meters down - hitcher (1986) - misery - Ravenous - 3 jours de nuit I love your vidéos, bises de France.

@phinlyn 4 месяца назад

I thought the film was great, a very well-done representation of the book. I read the book just after its initial release, and again before this movie came out (I literally finished the last chapter as the trailers were playing lol). I did of course love the book a bit more, as I tend to do, as it's MUCH more detailed, particularly because you get to REALLY be in Snow's head. Obviously, there's lots missing/changed from the book, some of it understandable, and others rather unforgivable (imo). No spoilers, though. I'll let you guys discover that on your own! To be fair, though, even the ORIGINAL films are guilty of the same book crimes and I still loved them too. Despite my grumbles, I do feel like what NEEDED to be in this film was there, so in that sense, it was a loyal rendition. Great reaction and analysis, you two!

@MaggieAAdams 4 месяца назад

OMG, listening to your commentary made that line Snow says in Catching Fire, "DON'T LIE" when they are sitting down before the tour pop into my head. The way Lucy Grey said trust is everything and then him feeling like she lied to him when she left the cabin.... Mind blown!

@joaomarcoscosta7525 4 месяца назад

As Rachel Zegler said, Lucy Gray was a performer forced to fight, Katniss was a fighter forced to perform.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

THIS!!! We loved the differences between those two, but they certainly share that fiery defiance and that just makes them such amazing characters!

@liviclare 4 месяца назад

@@PAYTONMCKENZIE-iy8wlabsolutely

@SCharlesDennicon 4 месяца назад

Watching Katniss perform was infinitely more entertaining than watching Lucy Gray fight...

@gdesiree29 4 месяца назад

Lucy isn't a fighter duh @@SCharlesDennicon

@halicarnassus8235 4 месяца назад

@@gdesiree29 Don't worry, the HAL 9000 does not understand human context.

@emilyk5168 4 месяца назад

The snake bite at the end was not poisonous. Snow worried it was, but the doctors at the base said no. The sores in his mouth seem to be from later incidents.

@terminallumbago6465 4 месяца назад

The sores in his mouth are from poison. He would poison his enemies, but he drank it too to throw off suspicion.

@kooscherries 4 месяца назад

The sores are from him being poisoned so many times. Ofc he had antidotes though, so he never died.

@flanagamer 3 месяца назад

Snakes aren’t poisonous, they’re venomous 😏

@milkybae2578 4 месяца назад

Exactly! Snow sees himself and Peeta as parallels. So when Peeta continues to choose and sacrifice for Katniss, to genuinely 'love' her (unlike himself who turned on Lucy Gray for his own gain) he tortures Peeta and brainwashes him to villainize Katniss in his mind, to 'open his eyes' and see her for who she really is. The same way he justifies turning on Lucy in the book, convincing himself he didn't really know her and that she was probably manipulating him all along.

@vanyadolly 4 месяца назад

I love having that insight now, because Snow's line that Katniss didn't deserve Peeta always stuck with me. Like were the cookies that good? 😂 It also adds context to his reaction to watching them in the 2nd games, when he realizes she probably does love him.

@orphanedhanyou 3 месяца назад

She def was manipulating him. She just had a much more healthy line she didn't cross.

@miaamer7718 3 дня назад

That was Haymitch that said that, not Snow.

@fadhilamad 4 месяца назад

"Tuberculosis on legs" still gets me 😂😭

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

😂😂😂 Just so mean but so damn funny

@vanyadolly 4 месяца назад

That and "these drones are not very good" were the best lines in the movie 🤣

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

45:45 Yes, she was writing it about Arlo Chance, the man that was hung when Snow and Sejanus first started working in 12. And this song is the biggest clue to Katniss’s family tree, because the Covey only perform this song one time before it’s banned for being too rebellious. And Lucy Gray’s little cousin, Maude Ivory (the one who brings her the katniss plant), is said to be able to remember any song after hearing it just once, which is a trait that Katniss also has. There’s some other clues that Katniss’s father is descended from the Covey: the cabin and the lake the Covey go to are the same ones that Katniss’s dad takes her to in the books. The Covey’s house is located pretty much exactly where Katniss’s house is in the first book, near a meadow at the end of the Seam. Also, the fact that Katniss was named after one of Lucy Gray’s favorite plants, and a plant that almost no one in District 12 would know about.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Whoaaaa that's actually so cool!! I wish we could get a confirmation on Katniss' heritage/family tree but this makes total sense!!

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

@@OfficialMediaKnights Me too! If she ever did another installment in this world I’d like it to be Haymitch’s games! Not only because of how intense they were, but also because we know he’s around the same age as Katniss’s parents (or at least her mom, since she was close with Madge’s aunt who was one of the girls to be selected alongside Haymitch) so it would be a great opportunity to throw in a line that confirms (or denies) the theory about Katniss’s dad. Also, it would be perfect because then we get the full stories of all the District 12 winners, since there have only been four. Sidenote, I revisted the Hunger Games books after seeing this movie and reading its book, and in chapter one of The Hunger Games Katniss mentions District 12 having two previous winners. She only names Haymitch, mentioning he’s the only one still alive.

@jenny_lee_87 4 месяца назад

@JNDReacts yes, hopefully more prequels. Snow rising to power, Haymitch as tribute and what happened to his family, Titus, District 13 after war, 25 HG quarter quell, Finnick as tribute and life after games, Annie, Joanna, Betee, Mags, Casca and Snow betrayal when young... 💜💜💜🤞🏾 any of this would be cool. Or do tv series antology, etc

@Alejandroram01 4 месяца назад

I love your comments OMG I WANT MORE🫶🏻

@PrincessJuliet101 4 месяца назад

In my head I figured katniss was a descendent of Maude Ivory not Lucy Gray like other people do. I think this because of the things you mentioned along with the fact Maude Ivory was also blonde like katniss’ mother and sister and katniss says how only certain people (usually higher class) looked like her mother and sister. Katniss assumes (can’t remember if it’s book canon) her mother married down but what if her mother came from the covey (Maude Ivory’s descendent) hence why they live where they do and katniss’ mother’s hair. That’s just my head canon tho 😂

@cariann2220 4 месяца назад

"When did this turn sour?" Probably when she said do not lie to me and he lied directly to her face lol. "Without trust you mine as well be dead to me." - lucy grey wasnt playing.

@vanyadolly 4 месяца назад

And that he hadn't told her he was shipping out to district 2. I think she knew he wouldn't have come with her unless he didn't have any other option.

@orphanedhanyou 3 месяца назад

@vanyadolly he had family to help though? That was ingrained in him from a very early age even if he didn't really care, that work function of a relationship can be very hard wired. "I am supposed to do xyz".

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

Lucy Gray’s ending is so poetic, because there’s actually a real ballad/poem from our world, Lucy Gray by William Wordsworth. The Covey have a naming convention where their first first name is from a ballad and their second first name is a color. Lucy Gray is the only one who gets both from a ballad. Anyway, the premise of it is about a girl who gets lost in the woods in a snowstorm (get it, snow?) and when her parents go looking for her they follow her footprints to a bridge where the tracks stop halfway across. The ending of the ballad is left a mystery, where some people think she died in the woods, while others think she’s still living out there and you can still hear her singing. The song that’s playing when the Covey go to the lake is adapted from the poem, and that ending is what she and Snow are discussing.

@angelukikai 2 месяца назад

Very accurate and interesting info, but I think Lucy Gray was her first name and her second name was Baird.

@JNDReacts 2 месяца назад

@@angelukikai No, Baird is her surname, and it’s also her cousins’ surname. Lucy Gray is her full first name, just like Maude Ivory and Barb Azure are her cousins’ full first names.

@z0tw 4 месяца назад

To be fair, Coral wasn't exactly an evil person or an asshole. Her true colors showed at the end. She was truly a good competitor. If you are in a do or die situation like all these kids, it is you or everyone else and you want it to be you. She didn't want to kill anybody but when you get reaped you have to change if you want to survive. It is especially brutal in the early games because of the lack of resources available.

@DovesEyes623 4 месяца назад

Yes! Isn’t interesting how these movies show us how fickle we are? Just like the capital, we decide quickly which characters “deserve to die” when honestly that line from Coral was a reminder that they were all kids. She was told she could survive by staying alive, and while some chose to hide, she decided to kill others - they were all surviving in their own way. But then in the end to see that the capital would just kill them all anyway, all that guilt of her actions was for absolutely for “nothing”. Quite compelling.

@z0tw 4 месяца назад

@DovesEyes623 It was such a good movie in that sense. I would like to think that all of these kids in the games really, truly, do not want to kill. A vast majority didnf have it in them. It was literally the pack, along with a slew of other characters that got killed off, that were just trying to survive by killing the others while characters like Reaper, Wovey and Lamina were just trying to not do that and survive in their own ways. It really was an interesting watch. I hope we get more of these movies and for Suzanne to write more books. I really want to see Haymitch and his games the most. How technologically advanced that civilization is. In fact his is kind of a generation or 2 after these games and a whole generation or 2 before Katniss as well. Very different circumstances as well. Seeing how each fight works, how the characters go about the games, etc.

@DovesEyes623 4 месяца назад

@@z0tw I agree. Each death was quite meaningful in depicting different types of children. Even Wovey at the end represented a type of innocence of a child “can we go home now” which is so representative of children born in such chaos that they still may believe ultimately that the adults know best and that this game would end if she hid really well. That part shook me as well. From Wovey to Coral, both children but one who had perhaps a few more years of life to recognize she’d rather hunt that be hunted, but in the end they both still had some belief in fairness from the capital. As for more books, I doubt we’ll get more. We collectively don’t see to do well digesting the themes she has already presented. I don’t want to see more games because then in a bizarre and meta type way, I become a spectator who wants more gruesome (though fictional death). I think Suzanne will write if she has a new message but I still don’t see many people grasping the aspect of the whole series and particularly the message from this book. If she does anything, I’d want it to be more about war and politics but given our current state, I doubt we are ready to have the conversations that she has so brilliantly interwoven into her books. I wish this book could’ve broken out of the genre into more adult as I think the darker elements were there that could have been explored.

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

51:09 That’s where the line “Where a dead man called out for his love to flee” in The Hanging Tree comes from. I always took it to be that the man was as good as dead when he called out, but it also can be interpreted as the jabberjays echoing his last words, “Run, Lil!”

@thomasnieswandt8805 2 месяца назад

The whole song was written, by Lucy Grey, about that man. The Peackeeper said "He caused an explosion were two mine workers and a peacekeeper died" So, what is the song about "They hung up a man, they SAID he murdered three" Whats also interessting, Lucy Grey is writing this song on the day by the lake. So exapt from Snow and Maude Ivory, there was noone there who could have heard that song EVER. We also learn that Maude had this gift, to recall music, she only heard once. So having Katniss sing this song 60 years later must mean she is related to Maude.

@kenyabrunson4985 4 месяца назад

I'm 75% through the book, and (not a spoiler) Coriolanus was born rich; but the family lost all their money during the war. Hence the scene with Young Coryo and his cousin, Tigris, searching for food and seeing their neighbor. PS: I highly recommend the book!❤

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Ahaaa gotcha!! I'm (Denise) actually waiting for my copy to arrive so can't wait to start reading it asap!!

@maddykm 4 месяца назад

@@OfficialMediaKnightsit’s such a good book! so so interesting! you’re gonna love it!

@IsraelLlerena 4 месяца назад

@@OfficialMediaKnightsyesss the book adds so much more (obviously.) can’t wait for you to get it !

@FiveFootZero 4 месяца назад

@@OfficialMediaKnightsomg would LOVE to hear your take/review of the book compared to the movie afterwards!!!

@Robert_Douglass Месяц назад

@@OfficialMediaKnights Oh, we should definitely have that. Your username is "Media" Knights, not "Medium" Knights, so a little branching out wouldn't go amiss.

@codygates7418 4 месяца назад

Rachel’s voice gives me chills. As a Southerner and from the state where Bluegrass is from (Kentucky) I was dancing along to that Bluegrass beat throughout the movie. It sounds just like my home haha. It’s interesting how the “Hanging Tree” talk about snow as well. He “murdered 3”, and they “met at the hanging tree”. I love how you all caught on to how snow must have felt when Katniss sang this. It must’ve been a slap in the face about he wasn’t able to “erase” Lucy’s name from the districts. I also think he was having hallucinations when he shot her and thought she was singing.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Rachel's voice is absolutely stunning - such strength and defiance in every note! It's one thing to be a good singer, it's entirely another to be able to convey emotions through your singing, and she nailed that! Also maaaan, I would give ANYTHING to see Snow's perspective on when Katniss shows up - a Hunger Games but from his point of view! Just the thought of his reaction to her singing that, and finding himself tortured once again by the mystery and ghost that is Lucy Gray to him, gives me chills! Thank you for your kind words and support, we really cherish you showing up for us!

@codygates7418 4 месяца назад

@@OfficialMediaKnights awww that’s so sweet of y’all. Yea she truly conveys every word she sings. It’s also implied that she is related to Katniss through her cousin’s bloodline. It’s said that Katniss’s father taught her the Hanging Tree song, when she was little, which at the time was only known by the Covey (a group of nomadic people that moved through “Panem” and are based off Romani and Irish Traveller Gypsies) which is the group Lucy and her cousin, Maude Ivory, (who many believe is Katniss’s grandmother) are from. It’s such interesting lore. God bless y’all

@Robert_Douglass Месяц назад

@@OfficialMediaKnightsI'm a little late to the party here, but I feel I still need to put in my two demicreds here -- Your suggestion about retelling the Hunger Games from Snow's point of view is a similar formula to that followed by Stephenie Meyer, the author of the Twilight book series, in "Midnight Sun", the retelling of "Twilight" from Edward Cullen's point of view. That might perhaps make it sound like lazy writing, but I think if it's done right, it could work, if there was another novel written to fill in the time between "Ballad" and "Hunger Games", switching POVs between Snow and Haymitch Abernathy, which would establish a relationship between them both that could possibly factor into the Hunger Games version of "Midnight Sun" that you suggested. Lemme know if you see any flaws in my reasoning here...

@Cinna316 4 месяца назад

I love how deep you go into the themes of these movies. Did you notice that at the end there's a rainbow covering the statue reminiscent of Lucy Gray's dress! That was a great detail to portray that she will always haunt Coriolanus

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Whoaaaa what a detail!!! Lucy Gray never really let Snow have any peace, driving him mad... Just love that!! Also looking at your username, justice for Cinna, who deserved better!

@margaretd4210 4 месяца назад

What’s so interesting to me in regards to the book vs the movie is that in the book we get Coriolanus’s monologue and it’s UNHINGED lmao but he obvs has to hide what he’s really thinking from the other characters to get by, and so we fall in love with him in the movie because he’s so good at disguising how he thinks. The book shows that he didn’t just snap from good to evil in a matter of like only 2 months; he already had some pretty sadistic opinions that, through his experiences, manifested more intensely.(My two personal favorites: when Lucy gray is singing her interview song on live tv, Coriolanus is having a hissy fit in his head because she’s singing about a guy that’s not him lmao, and he describes Tigris as “not beautiful, but her face has a sort of sweetness that invited abuse.” Like EXCUSE ME?)

@FiveFootZero 4 месяца назад

Yup!! That line about Tigris was like 4 pages in? I remember thinking welp, guess hes always been fucked in the head huh? Lol

@MaddyPerez128 4 месяца назад

My favorite lines were realizing he didn’t like Sejanus and was only faking it cause of the Plinth prize - His mom saying Coryo was his only friend and he’s like “must be sad to not have any friends” - His mom explaining the bread crumbs he put on Marcus and he’s calls it weird and mocks it by thinking something like “Oh no He starved to death! Somebody get the bread.” I really wish they found a way to portray it better cause everyone thinks they really were best friends and he betrayed him. When in reality he didn’t really care and only did it because he thought his dad would pay his way out.

@FiveFootZero 4 месяца назад

@@MaddyPerez128 omg I rolled my eyes so hard when they had Coryo cry out of “guilt” surrounding sejanus’ death to humanize him because I distinctly remember Coryo saying he was worried about being hung next and NOT being worried that sejanus died. Then not only did he wonder if Ma would still send them cookies, but also STOLE from sejanus’ trunk like COME ON 😩

@MsAliciaRL 4 месяца назад

And she was abused by the time we meet her in the Hunger Games.

@vanyadolly 4 месяца назад

I have to read the book. 😂 Although I thought he was showing plenty of red flags right from the beginning. He clearly doesn't give a shit about the games or anyone beyond his own loved ones. It's like we see him realizing that he's a monster during the course of the movie and accepting that by the end.

@emweaslvy 4 месяца назад

54:13 The snake bite actually isn't what gives him those blisters. Later on in his life the books say that Snow's most used way of killing his rivals/enemies was with poison. He would put it in their drinks and drink it with them so they wouldn't suspect anything. He would take antidotes so that he wouldn't die but the poison would still leave blisters in his mouth. Also love the reaction! You guys are so attentive and pick up on details a lot of people overlook.

@MsAliciaRL 4 месяца назад

Also in the BOSAS book, the snake was revealed to be non-venomous and naturally come up after rain. Lucy may have set up a trap or it may have been a coincidence, but either way, Snow's reaction was the last straw for her.

@vanyadolly 4 месяца назад

Yeah, if it was venomous it would have been apparent very quickly by the time he started shooting.

@DarlingSpectrum 4 месяца назад

The movie was interesting because it kind of showed how the world might have seen Snow, from what he says and his actions. Mostly good, and justified, with a twist at the end. But… the book is from his pov, and we are able to hear his inner monologue the entire time (which isn’t shown in the movie) and you miss how twisted, possessive, and ambitious he is right from the start. Even his “love” for Lucy Gray is because he wants to own her. And his “friendship” with Sejanus is opportunistic at best and never honest imo. I’m not sure how they would have shown an inner commentary during a movie like this, but that’s the one thing I wish they had pushed more.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Ohhhh that's fascinating!! Yeah, without the inner monologue Snow comes across as a flawed but still somewhat compassionate character. It feels like a bit of a shame that we missed out on that side of him!

@tgabz 4 месяца назад

he was being soo fake at the start of the movie, that was our cue not to trust him

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

@@OfficialMediaKnightsImo the best comparison I can think of for young Snow is Joe from You.

@davidfairweather3301 4 месяца назад

@@JNDReactshe reminds me of Tom Riddle from Harry Potter. Handsome orphan, intelligent, manipulates everyone around him, but one authority figure doesn’t buy his act (Dumbledore for Tom, Highbottom for Snow), both crave power and both committed their first murder as teens. Tom was 15-16, Coriolanus was 18. Both believed themselves to be the best humanity had to offer and both believed their family lineage entitled them to some kind of respect (Tom was from the Gaunt family and a descendent of Salazar slytherin, and snows family are considered elite).

@viktorialetstalk 4 месяца назад

Oh yeah, and how concentrated he is about the food. Because of hunger. But it also shows that he likes the material things in life more then anything else.

@dylanmiller5805 4 месяца назад

A big theme in The Hunger Games is how the media can manipulate people into believing a narrative. It's easy to hate Coral because she is trying to kill Lucy Gray, who is the one we care about, the one we want to win but Coral doesn't want to be in the Hunger Games either, she's still just a kid who doesn't want to die.

@MinhPhuongNguyen-hp8pt 4 месяца назад

Coriolanus was born from a rich/old money family but the war took his father and their wealth. He's social climber from the start (of the movie and book) because he has no choice but he did step on everything and everyone to land on top.

@benjaminpinoaguilera5522 4 месяца назад

Rachel Zegler said that there i so much in common between Katniss and her character, but the big difference is that Lucy Gray is a performer forced to fight and Katniss is a fighter forced to perform. And that is sooo true.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Yessss, she called it!! It's funny how much showmanship is required in the games, and how these two girls took that necessity and made it their own somehow. Both defiant and strong, in their own ways!

@rodan9769 4 месяца назад

I find it fascinating that Gaul views The Hunger Games as prey vs predator, humanity at its core being animal like. And yet, we see so much humanity between tributes (Reaper, Lamina mercy killing Marcus, Lucy Gray and Jessup) I really adored this film as a fan of the book (which I definitely recommend). There are so many layers to Snow and Tom Blyth (this is his first major movie role) played it brilliantly. Rachel as Lucy Gray (on her third ever movie!!!) was perfectly cast, she had that brilliant charming quality with this edge of being a survivor. Josh Andres Rivera as Sejanus was great as well, he was in West Side Story with Rachel previously (and are together irl). Sejanus a character with so much heart and so much guilt. The whole cast was perfect as well. I love how much this is just a character study of Snow. Did you notice one of the mentors last name was Heavensbee like Plutarch ;)

@MaddyPerez128 4 месяца назад

It’s also interesting that even 65 years later, there are still moments that show that our instincts aren’t animalistic. Katniss singing to rue, rue helping her after the tracker jackers, katniss killing Cato to end his pain with the mutts, Thresh sparing katniss (even though killing her would’ve increased his odds), Katniss / Peeta refusing to kill each other, and probably more. Also, Arachne (girl who teased her tribute) is named Arachne Crane. Meaning Seneca Crane is maybe her nephew or something (if she had siblings). And more obvious is Lucky is Caesar’s dad (same last name and the scene about the reservation with the high chair)

@rodan9769 4 месяца назад

@@MaddyPerez128 yes exactly!!! Humanity persists even though the violence becomes to intrinsic into their lives

@noxxpee 4 месяца назад

Just a little fun fact: they were struggling to find an actress for Lucy Gray, and Rachel Zegler didn't audition, they actually reached out to her themselves and originally she said no. She had already been away from her family and friends for a while from shooting Snow White, so she didn't want to throw herself into another film that would keep her away longer. But then she found out that Josh Andrés Rivera is gonna be acting in it as Sejanus and she called them back and accepted the role of Lucy Gray because Josh is her boyfriend lol but Josh Andrés Rivera and Tom Blyth (who acted as Snow in this) are like best friends, and Rachel said that when it comes to the two of them, she's always the third wheel lmao Edit: also, in the books, Lucy Gray actually sang that song that Katniss sang to Rue & Prim. Deep In The Meadow I think it was called. Sad they didn't include it in this movie. And Arachne's death actually made me cry in the books, since you could literally see what he was thinking, he was basically going on about how she might've been a bad person but he had known her since diapers and had been his friend nonetheless. It was actually really sad

@solezeta1314 4 месяца назад

In case you were wondering why Lucky the television host sounded familiar, it just so happens that the actor also voiced Spot in Across the Spider-Verse.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

No wonder his voice sounded familiar!

@jrlombardi5251 4 месяца назад

Lucy Gray told Snow trust was everything to her, after how she was betrayed to get in the games it was all for her, Snow told her she could trust him, even so when she asked him to not lie to her he just went and lied in her face, and about kills above all, once there she can't trust him anymore ans she's in a stage where her life depends on it. Knowing he'll do anything just to cover his ass and her being his only risk, she just knows she can't be with him.

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

34:54 Ok, one thing from the book: It wasn’t Dill who drank the poisoned water. It was Wovey, the little girl.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Whaaat?? Wonder why they changed that...

@DovesEyes623 4 месяца назад

@@OfficialMediaKnightsI’d like to think some of the changes gave certain actors more time to shine on screen. The actress who plays Wovey, got more lines and screen time with the change. Dill had some parts earlier where she spoke. I think both actresses are young in real life so I’d like to think they made small changes to let those actors be seen more.

@__jiu__ 4 месяца назад

In the books, they don't have cameras in the tunnels so to the audience, they didn't realize that Wovey was poisoned or if they did, they don't know who did it. In the movie, there are camers everywhere except behind the fan. Since Dill is already sick, Snow's and Lucy Gray's cheating isn't apparent early on. If they kept it as Wovey in the movie, the Capitol would suspect Lucy Gray (and Snow) of foul play even before the snakes.

@penguincgm489 4 месяца назад

"The writers are assholes" I almost died laughing🤣 If you recall, the first man who was hung, he was charged with killing one peacekeeper and two mine bosses. I was so hyped in my first watch when I heard it bcs I immediately think of the Hanging tree song "they says he murdered three", but I didn't expect Lucy gray to be the who who wrote it. With everything that turned out, Katniss singing this song during the rebellion is much much more satisfying bcs it definitely irks Snow lolol I love Lamina and Reaper😭 Lamina has been crying a lot before the game began, she seemed weak, even Coral didn't want her in her pack, but she was so kind and brave enough to put Marcus out of his misery, she has tried her best🥺 Reaper has always taken care of Dill, and the scene where he paid the final respect to fallen tribute and covered them with Panem's flag is my most favorite scene in the movie! I wonder if Snow would remember what katniss is at all after decades, but the last thing Lucy gray did before their relationship crumbled down is telling him she will dig up some Katniss, so...I hope it haunts him when our Katniss arrived🙃 One thing to notice, Tigris who used to call him Coryo, in the scene after he turned to the dark side, she called his full name "Coriolanus" instead. Poor Tigris, she has tried her best to keep him from evil path. Finally, the cinematography is BEAUTIFUL, the performance are DETAILED. I watched the movie first, came straight to get a copy of the book after that, read it and went for the second watch next week. In the book you'll see a lot more of Snow thought, and you'll be able to follow the actor's acting even more. I love it! Edited: I forgot about the Ost. song "Can't catch me now" PERFECT lyrics for Snow and Lucy gray relationship. Pls check it out!

@terminallumbago6465 4 месяца назад

It’s a shame Snow eventually sidelined Tigris, because she out of anyone in the Capitol (other than Sejanus) seemed to have the most humanity towards the Districts. It’s clear by the later movies that Tigris is appalled by what Snow became and actively helps the rebellion and celebrates Snow’s eventual death. But Snow must still have some degree of regard for her because he spares her. Side note: By the later movies Tigris has to be at least 85-90 considering her age in this one.

@stevenmcanales3813 3 месяца назад

I think Lucy Gray survived. I believe she was able to return to 12 after Snow left. As Lucy was the ONLY one to recognize Katniss, its my opinion that Lucy is Katniss' great great grandmother. And let's face it, with Snow being paranoid, he would have kept track of the family tree, especially since he would have recognized "Katniss", her ability to sing, memorize a song, maybe another hereditary trait brought back memories of Lucy Gray that made him tell future Gamemaker Seneca Crane to contain Katniss when she volunteered to replace Primrose.

@terminallumbago6465 3 месяца назад

@@stevenmcanales3813 If anything probably grandmother or related to/knew her grandmother. Great-great grandmother might be too far back. Considering their ages at the time of their respective games, Lucy Gray would have only been in her early 60s when Katniss was born.

@melissacreel4719 4 месяца назад

I really love this movie. I have to agree with what some others have said about needing to read the book. I have read it at least 4 times. Snow is manipulating and conniving from the start. His inner monologue is disturbing and interesting at the same time. At one point he thinks he wishes he was back at the Capitol with Lucy Grey because there he could completly control her there. He only tolerated Sejanus and poor Sejanus actually thought he was Snows best friend. It's a great read. By the way....I love you guys reactions and all your insights. You are the best reactors I have come across..

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Yeaaaah, Snow did give off 'controlling boyfriend' vibes, I (Denise) just could never quite pinpoint why I felt that way! It is fascinating though, that somehow they managed to keep us out of the loop with his inner monologue - it made him come across more ambiguous rather than straight up villainous. Also, thank you so so much for your kind words and support, it truly means the world to us!! You brightened our day with this comment!

@melissacreel4719 4 месяца назад

Any time. And as a side note my husband and I love it when you have seen a movie and Ari hasn't and you look into the camera. Pure gold.😁

@scorpioj3 4 месяца назад

Ive been waiting for you guys' reaction! I love how you two realize the symbolisms. Reaper Ash is definitely the Katniss Everdeen of the 10th. Also the way, Katniss sees a boy (Peeta) give her bread when shes starving when Snow sees a man eat a literal person when starving. You guys never fail to deliver very entertaining and clever commentary

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Yessss, Reaper's act of kindness and rebellion all in one go felt so reminiscent of Katniss tending to Rue's body. So interesting how you pointed out the connection between Katniss and Snow, never thought of it that way!! Amazing! Thank you so much for your kind words and support, it means the world to us!

@tails.trails.and.tacos. 4 месяца назад

Reaper is even better in the book! Was one of my fav characters ❤

@noureldeheiri3110 4 месяца назад

the thing that really gave me the chills, was the moment i fully understood "The Hanging Tree" when it was played here, even though it was kind of explained in the books. here, the first verse, which says "strung up a man they say murdered 3" talks about Arlo Chance, when we saw him be executed for the so called murder of 3 peacekeepers. the second verse says " where a dead man called out, for his love to flee" which refers to his last words, that were echoed by the jabberjays, telling his love to run. the last 2 verses however, talk about snow and lucy, the 3rd verse which says, "i told you to run, so we'd both be free" refers to lucy gray and snow meeting at the hanging tree at first light of dawn to escape or "be free", as they thought they'd finally have some freedom with each other. the last verse is up for interpretation, but how i personally took it, or imagined it, is when lucy said "wear a necklace of rope, side by side with me" it talks about lucy wanting to suicide, whether figuratively, as in "she wanted to kill her past self, and move on and try to find a new life" to which snow hasn't done by her side by basically going back to the capitol and deserting her. or she could have been talking about literal suicide, and she felt as though she wanted snow to do so with her, but instead, he tried to kill her, making the song seem symbolic i really feel as though its the most powerful scene in the movie, right after the "hunt" scene in the woods

@terminallumbago6465 4 месяца назад

I think this is why Katniss gets under Snow’s skin so much. It’s not just because she’s a rebel but because she reminds him of Lucy Gray. The same district, the same songs, similar personalities, Katniss is even named after a favorite plant of Lucy Gray’s. Snow is haunted by her memory, even all these years later. There’s a popular fan theory that Katniss is a direct descendant of Lucy Gray, and I could actually see it. It makes you wonder how different things could have been had Snow and Lucy Gray worked out.

@AnimalCrossingLover3 4 месяца назад

Yeah, Katniss is a mix of Sejanus and Lucy Gray. Her Fire and Songs from Lucy Gray and the Mindset and goals from Sejanus.

@MusicalMiranda82 4 месяца назад

I loved this movie! So glad y'all reacted to it. :-) Have a great day!

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Thank you for watching! We hope you enjoy ❤️

@hotflesh66 3 месяца назад

There are a few theories: Lucy did not survive since Snow shot her and she died at some point. Lucy is a relation of Katniss. Lucy disappeared with the Covy. Lucy becomes President Coin. President Coin is Lucy's daughter. What do you think? In the book, the student who got bitten by the snake ended up with scales and snake eyes so it was truly a more horrible transformation for her than possibly dying. If the studios did the 50th Hunger Games and they had to recast Snow, I wonder if they could get Donald Sutherland son Kiefer since there is a strong resemblance and it would be interesting to see Haymitch's games.

@fkhaoniiii 4 месяца назад

clemensia was a much better character in the book. she didn't just take credit for the assignment. both her and snow were assigned the project. but bc of how distraught she was over the death of her classmate (like a normal person would) she wasn't able to participate. but bc snow didn't care at all, he wrote the whole thing himself. she didn't even directly take credit for the work in the book, dr gaul just said the assignment fell into the tank pls get it out. and she reached in to get it and got bit. only after that gaul explained the snakes needed to be used to the scent. clemmie comes back after this throughout the book to show how snow takes advantage and disregards every woman in his life. sad they got rid of that in the movies. it added to how messed up snow is. even in the beginning where you're saying the movie is making you like him. the entire time he's talking to tigris he's thinking she must've sold her body to pay for the shirt, but there is no way any man would pay for her because she's so ugly...

@terminallumbago6465 4 месяца назад

It’s interesting to me in this movie how in the Games the tributes actually seem to have more humanity towards each other than in the later movies. Lucy Gray and Jessup, Lamina putting Marcus out of his misery, Reaper paying respects to the fallen, Reaper trying to warn Wovey about the snakes, etc.

@oliviastratton2169 4 месяца назад

I think it makes a lot of sense. The Hunger Games are still new in this movie. They haven't had the time to build up cultural attitudes and traditions around them. But after decades of normalization, and some districts coming up with the Careers system, tributes are able to dehumanize eachother more easily. The violence is expected, not shocking, so they participate in it more readily.

@MaddyPerez128 4 месяца назад

@@oliviastratton2169also because the stakes are higher, instead of winning and getting sent back with nothing, you get fame and fortune and are safe from the games the rest of the years. There’s more motivation to win and volunteer.

@carriesmith742 4 месяца назад

Both Viola Davis and Peter Dinklage are members of the "they could make the phone book sound interesting," Club. 😊

@jrlombardi5251 4 месяца назад

Lucy Gray definitely wasn't singing in the forest, Snow was just losing his mind by that point.

@ambera7159 2 месяца назад

The impression I got was that she *was* singing, knowing the mockingjays would pick up her tune and throw him off her track. But I do like the theory that he was hallucinating it all

@jrlombardi5251 2 месяца назад

@@ambera7159 him having hallucinations isn't a theory tho. And since the ending was confirmed as one in which we can't be able to tell if she died or not, the fact that she would just start to sing after getting shot pretty much gives away that she wasn't in a state of like dying after it. Also, every time Lucy Gray (Rachel) sings, there's a really strong difference between her studio version and her live version, everything Lucy Gray sings in scene is live, everything in the background of a scene where she isn't singing but we hear her voice as music of the movie, like when they go to the lake, is the studio version. After Snow shoots her, we hear the studio version of the hanging tree, Rachel isn't singing it live, which again, pretty much gives it away. The production also said they put the speakers all around the set so it would sound like it comes from everywhere so it wasn't like someone could tell from what direction it's coming, so again, it's showing it's not made for it to be just Lucy Gray in the forest singing normally while hiding.

@ambera7159 2 месяца назад

@@jrlombardi5251 Ahh okay! I was going off more by what had been said in the book, but this makes sense when you put it that way. Thanks for replying!

@jrlombardi5251 2 месяца назад

@@ambera7159 I mentioned stuff of the book too tho

@ambera7159 2 месяца назад

@@jrlombardi5251 Sorry for missing that, you’re right!

@jrlombardi5251 4 месяца назад

Snow saying murder makes him feel powerful is actually showing he already had an evil nature by himself, despite not being the monster we know in past films since moment number 1 just bc. We saw how the games affected the people of the districts, people like Katniss, Peeta, Finnick, Haymitch and more, but in there Snow just realised what he actually is, murder doesn't hunt and traumatize him, it makes him feel powerful. Ofc the capitol and Dr Gaul influenced and amplified his ideals a ton, but I like that tha author didn't just make him be a victim with a tragic past, it's more than that, he always had it on him, so it's a combination of both, he isn't how he is just bc of his circunstances or the things people did to him, he also took his own decisions based on those things for the way his personality is, his nature. That makes him more interesting, more complex, and let's us see that he would have never been a complete and full actual good person even if his situation was different, even if he wouldn't have got to be the devil we see in the rest of the movies. That's amazing.

@v.vlenmf05 4 месяца назад

Exactly, I never read the prequel book, but I was totally scared of him since the beginning of the movie, the actor did a good job to make Snow feel off and weird, I know some people can find hard to analyze that, but his actions to me were always narcissistic and like a true pycho, he manipulates people, he enjoys kill and he doesn't have any regrets by his actions, he acts just like he naturally is. When he's in the forest with Lucy and everything just switch, I would say it was just his true self getting out. His paranoia and train of emotions and thoughs, are not normal, he's mentally ill. I never felt sympathy for him, not only for knowing the future, but also because his actions were frivolous and in the end just evil.

@jrlombardi5251 4 месяца назад

@@v.vlenmf05 👏👏

@jrlombardi5251 4 месяца назад

@@v.vlenmf05 👏

@Alejandroram01 4 месяца назад

You know guys one of the things i can not take out of my mind is the memory of when i saw that Max ( the old lady that participate on the games on catching fire) is the victor for the 11th anual games so SHE IS BASICALLY THE ONLY ONE WHO MET LUCY AT THAT TIME WHEN SHE PARTICIPATED ON THE GAMES AND THEN SAW HER SOUL AND SPIRIT ON KATNISS BEFORE SHE DECIDED TO GIVER HER OWN LIFE FOR TO GO AGAIN TO THE ARENA🫶🏻🔥

@MaddyPerez128 4 месяца назад

*Mags I never thought that maybe Mags actually knew/met Lucy. Cause after the games she was basically gone. I mean obviously it makes sense she might’ve because idk how big the district is or she could’ve went to a show.

@rebekahdsylva6085 2 месяца назад

Late comment, but wanted to point out that Mags would have at least witnessed the 10th games live, if she was old enough to be reaped in the 11th, the following year. So even if she never met Lucy, she would have known about her directly, unlike tributes born after the 10th games happened.

@viivi005 4 месяца назад

Though not that well known, Tom Blyth was an amazing choice for the role of young Snow! It's almost like you can see a glimpse of his inner monologue in his eyes. For example in the book he's waiting to see others reactions to Lucy Grays singing in the reaping before he decides what to think of it. In that scene he briefly looks around at the people's reactions and then shows a little grin. And just everything was so good on his part🙏 I loved Rachel's performance too🌞

@hellnaurlimitnaur 4 месяца назад

I hate how the movie changed Clemensia's character and made her seem selfish and greedy. In the book, the class nominated Clemensia, Arachne, and Coryo to write the report and they were supposed to meet up to write it the day that Arachne died, so Clemensia was too sad to write the report, but Coryo stayed up all night writing it since he couldn't sleep. Coryo and Clemensia both tried to make it seem like Clemensia was somewhat involved because Clemensia didn't want to look feeble to Gaul, but Gaul ultimately knew and assumed that Clemensia was of bad character and feeble.

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

Since you’re planning on reading the book I won’t give a ton of detail, just that it’s written entirely from Snow’s perspective, and his internal thoughts oftentimes don’t match up with what he says and does. This is something the movie struggled with, since it’s difficult to do internal monologue well on film. Because of this, it does make him appear a lot more sympathetic in the movie.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

You're not the only one to mention this - it looks like the lack of internal monologue and the actor's performance made Snow more ambiguous in his cruelty and connivingness.

@DovesEyes623 4 месяца назад

I definitely recommend y’all read the book. I feel like a movie apologist, lol but I am on Part III of the book and I find that reading book after watching has enhanced my experience on the rewatch. It made me appreciate the choices the actors made all the more. Tom Blyth particularly, for instance if you follow his eyes, you see much of his reactions to her singing are not because she moves him, but he sees how she moves others with her singing. That is an indicator of his internal dialogue. He’s perceptive and very concerned about how others respond. We see that early on even at the reaping as he looks around at his classmates. Also, some dialogue imo that made his motivation and views of capital vs district very clear. He literally tells Sejanus, “You thought they’d be honest” 😬 and he spoke about districts with such disgust that I think captured his prejudiced views against district people. I think the author wanted us to struggle with not wanting to sympathize with him because we know how he turns out but the larger issue is with people we meet in everyday life, we don’t know how they’ll turn out - so are we able to find compassion and glimpses in humanity or do we think we can determine who is good and evil? Suzanne’s so clever and she honestly has me gagged thinking about how I struggled while watching the movie the first time. Like I was generally surprised each time he did something crazy and then was like oh yea, this is Snow. I think Suzanne is brilliant in being able to take us through that dilemma where we are really confronted with what makes a person “bad” and “good”. Are they born that way? Are they nurtured into one direction? It’s honestly so much to unpack and I’m enjoying the book and thoroughly enjoy the movie as well.

@LilSwaggaMuffin 4 месяца назад

Been waiting on this one ! Love how insightful yall are in ur reactions ‼️ as someone who read the book they did so good with it visually. There are some things they changed and some scenes are more in depth in the book but I loved it. I look forward to how yall react to this ❤😂

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Thank you sooo much for your support and kind words, it really brightens our day!! Did you feel like this did the book justice overall??

@LilSwaggaMuffin 4 месяца назад

@@OfficialMediaKnights in my opinion YES😁

@gailseatonhumbert 2 месяца назад

The most fascinating part to me is making Lucy a Roma, a traveler, a gypsy. Although more well known in Europe they also are in Appalachia and have been known for centuries for their musical talent. Fascinating culture for Suzanne Collins to introduce people to. Once you know her culture as one of the "travelers" many of the things Lucy does makes sense.

@The_Catnip 2 дня назад

Aren't there any Roma person who could have played this character tho? lmao

@joshuacoldwater 4 месяца назад

The book was told from his internal perspective, which is EXTREMELY difficult to re-write into a film. When the book was written, she was never expecting a film to be made. They did the VERY BEST to take everything that snow describes going on, “semi-neutralize it” (as far as this world goes) and then paint this gorgeous picture. The difference between this film and Catching Fire or Mockingjay, is a lot more people have read the book. That is the reason the ratings are lower. I disagree with the ratings; I would love to see anyone attempt to put this story into a film anywhere near this quality again, ever.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

That is so true! I haven't read the book yet, but from what I'm gathering from the comments, Snow is significantly more conniving and manipulative in the book. Playing him more ambiguous in the film made his intentions feel more mysterious for the audience, thus making his 'final transition' to evil feel more sucker punch-like. Can't wait to read the book!! We still thoroughly enjoyed this movie!

@Gabriela-co8ee 4 месяца назад

Its like the band Fleetwood Mac said "You'll never get away from the sound of a woman that loved you"

@gracerebekahh_ 4 месяца назад

The thing I find most interesting and fascinating about Snow’s story is how many women have been able to manipulate him and alter his mindset and behaviour over the years. Dr Gaul preyed on his weaknesses as a young student and ultimately turned him into a weapon partly if not wholly of his own destruction. Lucy Gray could see right through his ways even though they shared a personal connection. Later on, Katniss becomes a reminder of his previous experiences and all that he endured to land on top. And it was eventually President Alma Coin who was plotting on his downfall all along that took him down before she too succumbed to her own twisted thoughts. Snow has always had a possessive nature about him and he can become hyper fixated on his thoughts and feelings(which the book really highlights through his inner monologue) so as much as he thinks he is in control of himself and his emotions and thoughts and him thinking that he put himself on top by offing his enemies along the way, it is really the women he has encountered that are pulling the strings that ultimately made him the dictator he becomes. I also REALLY loved Donald Sutherland’s line at the end: “it’s the things we love most that destroy us” - Snow’s love for power and control is what led to his paranoia and killed him. His sacrifice to helping Lucy Gray win the games is also what ultimately made him crack and cross that line between good and evil. I just love this franchise so much! Thank you for your commentary ❤

@jaimicottrill2831 4 месяца назад

Great reaction as always lovelies! I read that President Snow banned the song "the hanging tree" from being sung everywhere, so Katniss would have had to learn it from somewhere in secret.

@davidfairweather3301 4 месяца назад

This isn’t true. Music was essentially banned as a whole. The hob was shut down as a venue for performances, so the music would eventually be forgotten but would be passed down by the Covey.

@its2maaiii 3 месяца назад

When Snow Said, 3 is enough for me, Denise(if I spell that correctly, 😢sorry if not), my EYES SHOT WIDE OPEN too😳, like how did you tell on yourself knowing she was there at the hanging.

@kyentai 4 месяца назад

the reaction was so genuine and authentic 😭❤️‍🔥 ALSO WORTH THE WAIT FOR YALL TO POSTTTT. loved the video 💞💞

@anthonylamb5113 4 месяца назад

Interesting that Snow uses White Roses to torment Katniss, and the first one he gave was to Lucy Gray. Thks guys

@paulineandrushuk8923 4 месяца назад

Loved watching this with you guys (my 1st time). As always your analysis was thorough and thought provoking. You were so hyped about the characters and their connection to the trilogy, that I missed your usual raving about the cinematography, which was stunning. Thanks.

@keeliabuchanan2489 4 месяца назад

I’m right with you on the “rooting for Snow” mentality! They do such a good job in portraying his perspective that it really had me second guessing myself and questioning why I had empathy for him, even towards the end. I really want to read the book now, especially since it has his internal monologue.

@xopaiige 4 месяца назад

you guys have the most attentive reactions and real response. i love that! 🥰

@jdbarber13 4 месяца назад

Some of my favorite reactors. Lucy sang the hanging tree (based off the hanging of arlo ... But also similar to shows story of 3) exactly once in public and it was banned immediately afterwards. For it to have been passed down to Katniss's father and for him to know of the lake which was a covey secret then he must have been close to the covey. Theory is that Maude Ivory is Katniss's paternal grandmother. Other notes: Spruce hid the guns, not Lucy. Also Snow never heard Katniss sing the hanging tree in the MockingJay book. They specifically mention how they never aired it so they showed it to Peeta after his hijacking and he didnt freak out. He remembered Katniss's father singing it when he was young. Also also the snake wasn't poisonous. Her ending is ambiguous just like the wordsworth poem she was named after. Did she die or did she live on? Its left up to you. I recommend the book. Its good because you can know snows inner thoughts and it shows his paranoia and possessiveness in earlier hints. Also notice snow looks at the statue at the end and sees a rainbow on its lower half. Shows us that he still sees Lucy everywhere, reminds us of her rainbow dress.

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

14:27 My face exactly. Though she’s technically not wrong. He does SEEM like a good man.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Yeaaaah he did indeed SEEM to be one 😂

@Grayson1999 4 месяца назад

Aye! You guys watched it 🥳 So fun to watch your reactions as always. Fingers crossed Suzanne Collins writes more Hunger Games books in the future so we can have more films 🤞

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Haha yes we finally got around to it!! Absolutely agreed, we need more Hunger Games books, imagine one of Haymitch's games, or one of Snow's rise to power??

@Viewable11 3 месяца назад

The book goes into great detail from the very beginning that Coriolanus Snow is a Sociopath, he always thinks about how to reap benefits for himself no matter the cost for other people.

@chutrash3348 4 месяца назад

My favourite reaction so far! You guys have such an attention to detail, catching on such subtle details like the rabies . Thank you 😊

@tgabz 4 месяца назад

the snake that bit snow at the end wasn't poisonous, and lucy gray didn't put it in there, it was just seeking shelter because of the rain

@davidfairweather3301 4 месяца назад

This isn’t clear in the book. In the book you can imply that it was a trap she set, but not to kill him, more as a defence and to test his reaction. In the book after he was bit he goes crazy and shoots everywhere

@tgabz 4 месяца назад

@@davidfairweather3301 you're right, it's ambiguous, just like the answer to what happened to her

@hugobacilio 3 месяца назад

The breakdown was so great on this one you guys killed it calling out the catness and calling out the snakebite didn’t even think about that’s why snow was sick!! 🤯

@WorsePoke 4 месяца назад

54:18 "That's the poison, that's why he has blisters in his mouth" Nope, that snake wasn't venomous, just hallucinations. The Blisters in his mouth are there because he used to drink the poisoned wine he shared with the people who tried to take the power from him, then just get the antidote, but he made it so many times that they would leave the very sensitive blisters behind. And yes, The Hanging Tree is Lucy Gray's song, from Billy Taupe's PoV when he told Lucy Gray to escape with him before the reaping. She only performed it once, the night before the escape, and that's why people are theorizing Maude Ivory, Lucy Gray's little cousin who had the ability to memorize songs from only hearing them once, is Katniss' paternal grandma, because her father knew the song, and Katniss has Maude Ivory's song-learning ability. Eh... We don't know what happened to Lucy Gray Baird, and that is intentional. Suzanne Collins wanted to do the parallelism with Lucy Gray's balad ending. The fandom takes the theory that she managed to escape Coriolanus Snow and lived in the forest as canon.

@4884nat 4 месяца назад

I saw this because another film we were set to watch got cancelled last minute and I’m so glad because this blew me away! I was so pleasantly suprised and gripped. I feel like Tom Blythe did such a good job as Snow. I never fully trusted him once, but I did often wonder if he was maybe able to be good at some points. From what people have said of the book I think he made great choices in his portrayal.

@NatashaSalgado 4 месяца назад

This movie was amazing and I remember watching this and said to my brother "I can't believe I want Snow to win" hahaha that actor made a great job because the whole movie needed him to be spot on and he did it

@TheKoopa4561 4 месяца назад

Love this movie. Very interesting to see the compare and contrast between the earlier hunger games and the ones we see in the previous movies

@h.haydon8044 4 месяца назад

If I remember correctly, I think the end with Lucy Gray, Snow, and the snake are up debate if Lucy Gray set up Snow to be bitten by the snake or if was just a coincidence. I think in the book, the scarf was on a tree branch, so it looked like Lucy Gray ran by the tree and the branch snagged it, or she placed it there on purpose. I like the idea of it being either a set up or a complete coincidence. It can go either way, it depends on how you interpret it, which Snow sees it as an attack. The movie clearly goes with Snow's interpretation.

@katherinesainz2875 3 месяца назад

aaaaa ive been binge watching your videos, i love them!! new sub

@williamzinedineh 4 месяца назад

45:55 uh, yes he did? did we watch the same scene? the kid was on the ground. he could have kept running instead of hitting him while he was down. did you miss that whole scene where he said it felt powerful??

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

1:01:40 Almost certainly not. Gaul erased every trace of the 10th games, except for one copy of them that she kept in a vault for her own enjoyment.

@calebsmith4551 4 месяца назад

She sang at the end to get the mockingjays to go crazy so their sounding would cover up the sound of her running away

@chelliebean5773 4 месяца назад

The blonde girl at the reaping that encouraged Lucy to sing and that was with them a great deal, she also introduced her at the Jamboree gathering, I think that is Katniss' grandmother (her mother's mother). I thought it the first time I saw her, that it would be something she and other who knew Lucy could pass along some memories of her actions and music, especially the song she wrote.

@HotCocoCollective 4 месяца назад

Loved the reaction! time to go an see your reaction to the initial trilogy!

@orphanedhanyou 3 месяца назад

So many are mad they didn't make it more obvious Coryo was self centered & selfish in his quest for survival (and equating it with power so no one could ever touch him) from the beginning or that we didn't hear inner dialogue that was in the book, however 1) just because it's inner dialogue doesn't means it's true - the lies we tell ourselves in self preservative are loud. So those claiming the book inner thoughts prove Snow was 100% horrible is still potentially not true, he could easily just be telling himself things & describing things in a way to try & distance himself from everything vs those that seem to claim he had no conscious in the book. Even Katniss said many things in her head that were clearly either her just trying to hang on or seemed naive & those could easily have a hidden underlying truth she herself would'nt admit, 2) not having any inner dialogue narration or more obvious traitorous acts early on means we see what everyone else sees, his facade, PLUS hear the contradictions and how what he thinks changes depending on who he is talking to (so he survives & comes out on top). Ultimately if you are starving and hiding from desperate cannibals and hearing a single narrative of who is at fault, you'd end up like Snow & the capital too.

@isgoga96 4 месяца назад

actually the next games, the 11th ones were the games that mags won, and snow implemented the victory tour and the victor's village

@bbymitsu Месяц назад

i loved sejanus him being a nice guy the whole time going to 12 just for snow he was literally the best when he found out there was guns apart of the plan he had a mental breakdown because hes so nice i get that snow didnt know what he was doing but killing off one of the best characters is so mean

@suR___ 4 месяца назад

There’s so many things I wish I could bring up that I noticed in the book and movie but mostly the book! But the main thing is how trust is more important to Lucy Grey than love and Snow to Katniss said “I thought we agreed never to lie to each other.” I see the parallels in his desperate attempt to relive the essential parts of his relationship with Lucy Grey because he wanted to try and asses his faults and how to fix it to regain control. He stayed truthful their whole relationship (his and Katniss’). Not that he didn’t find ways around the truth but anyway. Lol I think there’s so many little details in all the movies/books that add up to this story and Snows motivations!

@reallife_daria4816 4 месяца назад

The peeta take is wild that’s a first I’ve heard but it makes sense why he turned him into a mutt against Katniss cause he wishes he could’ve killed Lucy

@romanywolf8545 4 месяца назад

the ruble in the middle look like the center pieces in the other arenas

@williamzinedineh 4 месяца назад

59:45 there's also the bow in the arena that goes unused. i thought that was a particularily great metaphor

@joelforeman6246 4 месяца назад

You guys should listen to the song Olivia Rodrigo wrote for this movie, it plays during the credits! It captures this movies essence, Lucy’s POV from after her disappearance, and foreshadows what happens when Katniss comes around! It’s amazing!

@viktorialetstalk 4 месяца назад

Putting down the details from the book and differences between the movie and the book, I would like to comment on one thing you mentioned at the end. About the sequel. When you mentioned that it would be great to see the world after like 200 years after the last (historically) book. I thought about the idea of having a sequel how the new Capitol failed and the war started again between districts and the Capitol. Just to make a PERFECT LOOP to this book (childhood of Coriolanus). So that we end almost at the same point when the whole history started. To show that, unfortunatelly, mankind doesn't learn from it's mistakes.

@annie_42 4 месяца назад

If youre able... i say read the book! You get so much of snows thoughts & internal struggles... but it still makes you mad that youre rooting for him at some points!

@jbashore3468 4 месяца назад

Tom Blyth's mother (the actor playing Snow) is a huge fan of Peter Dinklage and was furious when she saw that his character poisoned him.

@_editaddict 4 месяца назад

I was waiting for this 🙌🏼

@Robert_Douglass Месяц назад

Coriolanus Snow learning empathy makes him all the worse in retrospect because empathy then becomes a tool in his totalitarian toolbox. His own words -- "Hope is stronger than fear. A little spark is fine, as long as it's contained."

@babyalien 3 месяца назад

Fun fact: Rachel sung all the songs live on set, and also Rachel (Lucy Gray) and Josh (Sejanus) are dating irl

@amber.ren_1995 3 месяца назад

Yeah but what even better that the song ends up being great for Snow bcuz he also murdered 3. Cuz again the lyrics said “he said he murdered 3” just awesome writing.

@halicarnassus8235 4 месяца назад

3:30 I love how in the beginning that Snows grandmother is dressed in like 1920s hairstyle bobbed and attire.

@feloveilyamaz94 4 месяца назад

Hiii guys.. not commenting about the movie, but i really just want to say that i love your reaction. I've watched this video three times, I don't know how to put it into the exact words about what i think and feel about your commentary, how connected you are, it's satisfying for me because i watch others and it's just not enough 😅 I'm looking forward for your reactions, just know that i will be here to watch 💖 (P.s English isn't my language, ignore the mistakes please 😅)

@K7CG2004 4 месяца назад

I have a feeling this might get nominated for Original Song for the song, “Can’t Catch Me Now” by Olivia Rodrigo.

@BlueJean452 4 месяца назад

It’s so interesting so see how people perceive this movie who haven’t read the book vs who have. The book is entirely from Snow’s pov so I could never fully empathize with him because you can see how every thing he does that appears selfless is actually very self serving. I highly recommend reading the book to see if it changes how you see certain scenes, especially about the relationship between Snow and Sejanus. Loved the reaction.

@DovesEyes623 4 месяца назад

I’m reading book and I empathize with him at parts. There are certain parts of book where he comes across more caring based on his internal dialogue than in the movie. Particularly, his relationship with Lysistrata, His encounter with Bobbin in arena was much more forgiving in the book than in the movie’s portrayal which made it very clear that he intended to kill Bobbin. I’m on part 3 but I don’t see how people who’ve read book are saying they never sympathized with his character. This dude, even in book, was terrified and paranoid about everything. Being terrified and paranoid does not make someone evil, it’s the choices he began to make from that place, at the expense of others, that kept taking him across the line. But his point of view in the book, does give us a baseline of humanity for his character - witnessing war, his hunger and desperation are motivations we understand from Katniss. Even how he saw his classmates treated by capital I think led to his beliefs that everyone was expendable. All those are aspects that make him relatable - what shifts is his choices which I think the movie did really well conveying that. I think Suzanne wants us to struggle with not wanting to like him from the start because we know how he ends up - but the larger conversation about good/evil; nature vs nurture is for us to really question our views of others and human nature. I personally don’t believe people are just born evil so perhaps that’s why I’m not reading the book that way. I think we want to believe we can just tell someone is evil from birth because it might settle us more than realizing that everyone is capable of committing the most horrendous acts, including ourselves. I find I’m more aligned with Lucy Gray, in that I believe we all have capacity to stay on right side of the line just as easily as we all could slip to the other side.

@barbara832001 4 месяца назад

Snow had sympathetic moments in the book, but he also had really toxic thoughts, and he was extremely duplicitous. He was a complex character though.

@TarotByMokko 4 месяца назад

Yesss! Cannot wait for yall to watch this. I was unhappy about a major character, but for the most part, I enjoyed the show.

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Ohhh really, which character was that??

@TarotByMokko 4 месяца назад

@OfficialMediaKnights Lucy. In the book, she came across as a Mary Sue fanfiction character and in the movie, I was not a fan of the acting, especially the accent since no one in the south sounds like that. I was seriously bothered by that accent as a southerner 😆 That was the only weak link for me out of an otherwise amazing film.

@jalen.0609 4 месяца назад

also a theory of mine is that maude ivory (lucy‘s cousin) is actually katniss‘ grandmother which would make katniss and lucy related. In the books it says that maude is able to remember songs after hearing them only 1 time which is a very specific thing to say about a character that‘s not that "important“. Since lucy only performed the hanging tree once in public, nobody but someone close to her would be able to remember the whole song. And it would make sense that, as maude always looked up to lucy, that she would sing that song to her child who would later on be katniss‘ father. Also the fact that maude gave the "katniss“ plant to lucy, something she remembered lucy by bc other people didn‘t call it katniss. So it would make sense that she gave that down to her child that would call his daughter katniss bc it‘s something unique. Katniss has a beautiful singing voice even tho she‘s not much into music so she could‘ve inherited that from maude who was gonna replace lucy as the lead singer from their band. Again this is just a theory but to me there are too much coincidences and connections for this to not be a thing. Personally i think it would add even more to the story if the person that snow fell in love with and kind of played a part in who he becomes later, would turn out to be related to the mockingjay that brought him down (also considering that lucy was the one making him aware of the existence of the mockingjays)

@bondvabond 4 месяца назад

Loved it guys! You guys talking about, “How are they making me like Snow right now?”: That’s EXACTLY how he managed to get to his position we see in the Hunger Games. In order to reach powerful positions, you need to be LIKEABLE. Whether it be talent, money, charisma or looks, people automatically like and respect you more if you have it. The thing about tyrants is that they don’t get to their positions by accident. They had to be likeable in some manner to get to the top. Snow of course used poison as well, but that alone wouldn’t have won the Capitol’s support. Also, with Snow being so likeable: it’s because he APPEARS likeable. He is a master of masking his thoughts, feelings and intentions. Whenever he lets the mask slip is when we think, “Hmm, I don’t really like this choice he’s making”. He has always had a horrific mindset, but he hides it well. I genuinely recommend reading the book. Snow’s inner monologue is absolutely unhinged and you can better see how much of a snake he is. There’s also a theme around Snow choosing between being like his mother or his father. His mother was a kind woman, while his dad was a monster. He initially has aspects of both and we see aspects of both shining through, but when he finds the weapons in the lake house is when he realises he can get rid of all loose ends. In that moment, he chooses to follow in his father’s steps. Hence why Tigris then so sadly says “You look just like your father.”

@ane9911 4 месяца назад

Most of comments were right especially when you both said that in the end Lucy Grey and Snow were paranoid because of their traumas. It really felt like it when you read a book. I would add only one thing that wasn't mentionted in movie. No, that last snake was not venemous. It's most likely just happend to be under scarf cuz it was raining outside and doctor who saw Snow after that said that snakes used to find dry places when it rains so no, she didn't put it in there on pupose

@Serryy 4 месяца назад

"What changed" Well, for once, he lied to her about the third person he killed. She said that trust is the most important thing of all earlier. So that trust was broken. Even if she loved him, that doesnt matter now. Then Snow finds the guns which means he will be safe to return. Safest option for him is to kill Lucy to leave no more loose ends. She doesnt trust him. So she runs.

@wishinStars 2 месяца назад

Lucy had to walk and sing a song, until Katniss could run and move people with the song…

@kenai_keys 3 месяца назад

@7:50 Lucy’s bow was a callback to Katniss bowing when she shot the apple out of the pigs mouth during THG 1 skills showcase scene

@de60565 4 месяца назад

They don't know about Lucy Gray becuase Dr. Gaul removed every copy of the 10th hunger games except for a special one for herself in the end of the book

@OfficialMediaKnights 4 месяца назад

Wow... They completely breezed over that in the movie! Just goes to show how far the Capitol will go to suppress any chance of an uprising...

@JNDReacts 4 месяца назад

1:04:17 Well yes, but actually no. Without his internal thoughts, the movie does make it seem like he cared about Sejanus. While Snow wasn’t trying to get him killed (like he said, he believed Sejanus’s father would be able to buy him out of any trouble), he wasn’t actually upset that Sejanus ended up being killed.

@FiveFootZero 4 месяца назад

Yeah, I think the guilt/regret he feels about Sejanus they decided to add to the film that isn’t in the books is my number 1 pet peeve. I still enjoyed the movie though, but it could never make me change my mind on snow lol