Dealerships are killing car sales with add on. Tried to purchase this last month but they had $3000 in BS add ons. Only willing to pay for window tint which they had at an eye watering $500.
I have an 2018 Ioniq PHEV and the paddles behind the steering wheel are for gear shifting. Chevy and Honda figured it out sooner: to assign these paddles for managing the regenerative braking. Glad Hyundai finally figured it out as well.
So one thing I would ask C&D about their "real world" range testing is, shouldn't it be a combination of city and highway? I for one do not drive on highways except for maybe on the weekend visiting friends/family, and neither do I drive at 75mph given it's a larger strain on the battery (and the DMV usually has 55 - 65mph limits). I feel a more accurate range test would be an X mile loop using these backroads, city roads, and a portion of highway driving. On a recent road trip I did with my SEL RWD, I achieved tremendous efficiency and achieved 336 miles from a 98% charge.
90% of people who wants to travel long distance would use the highway to do so. City driving would make the test more open to errors and variations, because spending 4-7 hours in a car at different traffic, heater needs, traffic lights stops, driving style and more is very difficult to control compared to 3-4 hours at constant cruise at highway speeds. You would simply not need the range at non highway driving, because if charging at home, you would probably be the weakest link in the road trip chain and not the car. I have tried the Ioniq 6 (big battery, RWD, 18" wheels) and it sips power when driving smooth at non highway speeds.
This is a great car, admittedly, but you bias towards Hyudia and against Tesla is stunning. he didn't incude Tesla because they have no new models. OH, funny. I am sure the model y refresh would count as a new model. Not to mention you didn't even include Tesla in your range comparison. Did hyundai say, " you can test the car but don't compare it to Tesla"
When I first saw this in pictures, I thought it was ugly, but I would give it a chance to see it in person first when I first saw it in person, I confirm the fact that this is one ugly car.
The concept idea wouldn't be doable especially with the twin joystick steering style lol. And the possibly expensive suicide passengers doors lol. I'm waiting on the Ioniq 6 N.
Yep, a few people in Canada had their Ioniq 5s written off due to minor dents in the battery cases. The batteries were the same price as the entire effing vehicle. Hard pass.
The trunk could easily have been a hatchback instead, while maintaining the same shape. Add to that the fact that it lacks anything resembling a real front trunk, and this car is at a disadvantage. Not to mention the confusion about how to get the maximum range. “Up to” mileage requires rear-drive only, while others get similar range with all-wheel drive. It’s a great foray, but they still have work to do.
Agree with you on the hatchback point. The front trunk is small because Hyundai/Kia decided to move the mechanicals that are traditionally located within the cabin just behind the dash (like aircon/heater, etc.) and move them in the front area where the "frunk" would be which allows for more interior space (leg room). I guess they believed that interior space is more important than a frunk that people may or may not utilize often. Not disagreeing with you but just saying that was the reason I heard. The rear trunk space is laughable however which is why I think a larger opening that comes with a liftback would come in handy.
The difference between a hatch and a trunk is more than just the size of the trunk lid. A hatchback has one less structural cross-member in the rear, so you have to design around that.
No, internal combustion engines have stopped evolving a long time ago. Today's engines are zombies on steroids waiting to explode to your face with a huge bill. Engine rebuild needed there, engine replacement needed here. Thank the stricter and stricter emission regulations and the ego of auto manufacturers who don't want to produce less powerful and a less efficient yet reliable naturally aspirated engines. Turbocharged here, supercharged there, both over there, low-tension piston rings and lightweight pistons that end up blowing everywhere, this is becoming worse than the opioids crisis.
It's the car of the year that the majority cant afford!!! 50K might as well buy Tesla Model Y its a better car. If you want to sell like Honda or Toyota the price has to come DOWN!!! People wont buy it!!!
Over 80% of EV charging is done at home at more normal rates per kwh. When you DC fast charge, you are paying for the speed of charging. Even at relatively high kwh pricing EV's are so efficient, that it still usually works out better than gas.
Wouldn’t it have been helpful to put a Tesla model 3 on the map to see how it compares to the efficiency ev, as a benchmark? Comparing to a vin fast or niro seems a bit unusual
Drove mine home from Dallas to OKC left with a full tank 311 range, drove 85 to 90 (don't tell) made it 160 miles. At 75mph I average the estimated 106 to 111 mpge closer to 106 with cruise at 80 400 lbs of passengers and AC on.
Not really, the Hyundai Ioniq 6 was ranked 9/10 by Car and Driver in the beginning. The BMW i4 was first place ranked at a whopping 10/10. I’m guessing they have seen that “BMW is the obvious choice” so they changed it to make a more interesting, inexpensive option. Did anyone else notice that? Sure, this vehicle is great but the change in such a short amount of time is risky..
Needs to be a hatchback. I find the rear end, kind of fugly too. Not sure this would be my pick. As much as I despise Elon Musk, a Model S with the hatch and air suspension is more my thing. But, alas, I will not be buying anything from Tesla while that nutbar is at the helm of the company and owns so many shares.
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Honestly, this was the worst EV I test drove this year for practicality. The rear seats are spacious length wise, but there's no headroom. The trunk opening is small, even the pass thru when you fold the seats down is tight and very short height wise. Basically, it's a big albatross with plenty of unusable space. An actual fastback design would have saved this car, but it is a flop to me. This car came so close but with the limited cargo space and compromised rear seats, it actually kind of sucks. I would buy this dead last when offered alternatives like EV6, Ioniq 5, even the Niro and Kona.
If you look at it logicall, ev are goose. It's not going to make it. Look at the bolt a 26 thousand cheap ev but it can't sell. So you say but it too small. But if they make it larger it would cost double + to make a profit 50 k. Yea GM claim they will put out a 30 k car. But it is small not much larger than the bolt. You seen the newest survey? 70% of the buyers home owner & own 2 car and travel less that 50 k a yr. and make over 150 k. The reality is nobody has the time to charge 1-3 hr after 5 pm or at 5 am many are working 2 jobs and saving for home to stop paying rent. How can they pay 700-1,300 a month not even counting 4-6 hundred insurance. Oyea and the average owners of the ev are only 3 year. So it sold at 150 k miles. They got about 15-20 k for a lost of 40-70 k yep a rich man toy. LOL
As long as the target market for automakers in the US is people who couldn't come up with the cash to buy a rusty minivan, but feel they deserve to be able to get 8+ year financing to buy a luxury performance vehicle, they will never make a vehicle I actually want. I have heard stories of people who could have written a check to buy the entire dealership being turned away because they wouldn't finance the vehicle.
Love love love. Car and Driver loves the Hyundai-Kia Megacorp despite massive failures in reliability of two vehicles that Car and Driver published in print of video within the past few months. But there's nothing you can do that can't be done. And you can't make a silk shirt out of a sow's ear. Pass.
@@JohnLee-db9zt I'm talking (actually I'm writing but let's pretend...) about listening with your ears, not your eyes. Listen again, but do it carefully this time.
This is what happens when a manufacturer "does not" pay for all the promotional junkets with bells and whistles. Car of the year is the one that was most bought. The elephant running rampant in the room.
@@otto_schwarzkopf Except that this video _did_ mention Tesla (around 1:43) and the host explained that Tesla did not have a model introduced in the time window covered in this comparison. So put away your conspiracy tin-foil hat.
Is it REALLY better than the Lyriq? In my market Limited models are marked up by $8,000-$10,000! Having driven both I found it terribly underpowered. The only advantage is range which is a moot point being that most people will home charge. The Cadillac is the superior EV in every way that matters.
@@pininfarina575 Correct, he said market leader. What is a market leader, to me a market leader would be the one that influences the design of other vehicles, and is also a sales leader. I own a Tesla, I prefer Teslas, for people who don't want a Tesla, I recommend Hyundai/Kia/Genesis. Once they switch over to NACS charging they will be even better.
@@michaelcollier8768 Where we the ones with an annoying smell produced. I have driven 2 recent 2023 Model Y’s. One from Fremont, one from Austin. No unusual smells.
I don't hinki it's a fad, but ICE's are needed to keep the CO2 levels up that actually feed us. Crops grow faster with more CO2 (those who question that, ask greenhouse farmers why they add CO2 to their enclosed ecosytem) and we already have people dying of famine. I don't like the smell and noise of ICE, and in theory the smell could be largely removed with other (less efficient full sypply chain) fuels, and EV tech is nice and slick. Sadly batteries are still very barbaric, and hardly "green" even though EV buyers will expect you to appluad them for driving what others can't afford. I like that some companies try harder to make the most of the limitations battery powered cars pose (Lucid), and it exposes those who really don't even try, such as Mercedes.
LOL LOL LOL, ICE are history. EV's are the future. They do need more range and quicker fast charging but it's coming and my EV is ready to go each and every day with home charging.
@@michaelcollier8768 ICE will remain for a long long time and a lot of countries will roll back their policies because the whole thing is just unrealistic. There isn't enough raw materials to produce a battery for every car user on the planet and there isn't enough electricity generated to charge them. The EV bubble is intact for now because they are very low volume. It will burst once everybody starts going electric.
@michaelcollier8768 LOL LOL LOL LOL. Evs are a fad. There never will be a charger that's as quick as a fuel pump and the range will NEVER be good as an ICE because NOTHING holds more energy per volume than gasoline. My ICE are ready to go anytime in any weather. Evs are a wet green dream
@@Welcometofacsistube You mean you have to go to a fuel pump, get out of your big truck, man-handle a messy pump and stand there inhaling noxious fumes??? Wow, that's ancient history. I just plug in at home and I am ready to go the next day. Costs me 5 bucks for 350 miles of driving.
