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@jaredshelton4718
@jaredshelton4718 5 лет назад
This AWD system is meant for rain and snow since it's a Dual clutch tans. Not for off-roading.
@ethanmckibbin
@ethanmckibbin 5 лет назад
Couldn't agree more its really unfair to test a car that wasn't designed for off-road off the road. They are making the Kona look bad when that's not what it wasn't designed to do in the fist place.
@brahimoijih4792
@brahimoijih4792 4 года назад
I agree 182% i have 2020 luxury edition I can guarantee that car is so nice fun to drive too
@sshrul
@sshrul 4 года назад
Yes try the 2.0 now
@maxthrust976
@maxthrust976 4 года назад
How is it in the snow?
@jaredshelton4718
@jaredshelton4718 4 года назад
@@maxthrust976 It will do great in the snow if you're looking for extra traction or to get out of slippery situations that a normal 2wd car couldn't do. It won't be well suited for situations where you're constantly loading up on the dry clutches in the transmission, such as steep slippery inclines.
@TypicalGuy84
@TypicalGuy84 5 лет назад
I dont understand why you guys dont make this your first test for ALL the cars and trucks you test drive🤔
@joshgladstone7119
@joshgladstone7119 5 лет назад
Bc it's funny
@NoteFromSELF
@NoteFromSELF 5 лет назад
@@joshgladstone7119 Because they'd lose viewers immediately.
@minivanman1356
@minivanman1356 5 лет назад
I have yet to see or read a negative review of this car. Sounds like Hyundai really made a class leader here
@justinuzzanti361
@justinuzzanti361 5 лет назад
only thing i dont like about mine (2.0 awd) is its a little cramped in the back seat.
@lakshmandalpadado9066
@lakshmandalpadado9066 4 года назад
Buy a Renegade - bigger than the Kona, more space than Kona and much better 4x4 with a 4 wheek lock transmission. Renegade in TrailHawk guise can tackle almost anything that the LR can do. Also the only compact real SUV with 2000kg towing capacity. All the others are AWD sissies.
@johnc1975
@johnc1975 4 года назад
That's right buy a Jeep Renegade if you want the reliability of a Fiat because it is a Fiat built in Italy.
@jdaniel4237
@jdaniel4237 4 года назад
@@justinuzzanti361 if they made it 6" wider and another foot longer it'd be near perfect. But trying to get 2 carsseats in the back of my Kona is a major bummer. Otherwise the cars been awesome!
@DazdnCofuzd
@DazdnCofuzd 4 года назад
Only thing I don't like about the Kona is the non-color coded wheel flares.
@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering
@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering 5 лет назад
I'd be willing to bet that both Hyundai and the buying demographic for this vehicle, only ever intended the AWD to be used in mud and snow in suburban and city situations, not severe off roading situations.
@PeterXChhanX
@PeterXChhanX 5 лет назад
But this is also applicable to snowy/icy situations where you can have spotty areas of traction so it's not irrelevant
@jamesbeaman6337
@jamesbeaman6337 5 лет назад
Nothing wrong with finding a vehicle’s traction limitations.
@dougsydnes8047
@dougsydnes8047 4 года назад
100% correct. I love my Kona Turbo and wouldn't ever take it on this type of terrain. It does great in the snow and that's what I'm concerned with. Great car!!
@sarag1158
@sarag1158 4 года назад
I don't ever plan to take mine off road.
@bryanwithab1567
@bryanwithab1567 5 лет назад
Great vid. Most people don't know awd systems can be very different in capabilities.
@kevinheckeler
@kevinheckeler 5 лет назад
Agree, this was well planned and executed. The car community needs more demonstration videos like this (Engineering Explained tries, but he does more on his white board than real world testing).
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 лет назад
Agree to, different capabilities, different purposes (traction oriented, performance oriented), different designs.
@crsantin
@crsantin 5 лет назад
Hyundai does not make off road vehicles so it makes no sense to take this off road. This is a good vehicle in winter climates on paved roads. Also, do not buy press vehicles. 😂
@the33rules73
@the33rules73 4 года назад
Your are right !! It's a softroader !! For snow and Rocky roads ,not off roading !
@gsilva220
@gsilva220 5 лет назад
TL, DW: The AWD system is awesome, but the dual clutch transmission make offroading almost impossible
@MLGXBOXPRO
@MLGXBOXPRO 5 лет назад
Yes they put the DCT to make it faster on pavement. I have a 2019 ultimate awd and I would not take it off road. The ground clearance is not that good on the front bumper along with those big alloys being somewhat low profile. The awd is best for snowy days and hammering it off stop lights. Super fun awd daily for 26k.
@velocci6666
@velocci6666 4 года назад
Is this still a problem on the 2020 model?
@chrisphilhower6029
@chrisphilhower6029 3 года назад
I have a 19 Kona SE AWD. 2.0 and 6 Speed Auto. There is a Gauge for the AWD Power distribution inside the DIC. When I take off(Street) Power starts at 50/50. As the Speed increases, More power is transferred to the Front. Although I live in NJ, Last winter I was not able to test the Snow traction. But the Rain is Excellent.
@joeb2588
@joeb2588 3 года назад
That's a good reliable combo, the 2.0 liter with auto. This is not meant for off road. It's an elantra platform... It's a good vehicle for what it was built for. Rain, snow.
@EricFortuneJr.
@EricFortuneJr. 5 лет назад
2:45 It ain’t “roasting” those clutch plates.. Hyundai engineers knew what people would attempt to do with these cars so they (along with many manufacturers) have tuned the nannies to intervene long before it reaches the point of something breaking or getting damaged. It could probably allow more throttle and RPM but if that were the case you’d have people sitting there with their foot to the floor spinning.
@NvrchFotia
@NvrchFotia 5 лет назад
The auto with the NA engine would be better for off road, the 1.6 dct is a better vehicle for driving quick on the road and not worrying about weather.
@MDKN22
@MDKN22 5 лет назад
I'm incredibly amazed. Hyundais got likely the best AWD system, but nothing can beat a Jeep or Subaru. I've driven my Tucson through a pretty deep patch of snow this past winter that was about 6 inches and my car just handled it fine!
@minrathejunglist
@minrathejunglist 2 года назад
Or if you really want to up your game, a Toyota :)
@MDKN22
@MDKN22 2 года назад
@@minrathejunglist nobody wants a Chinese lifeless pile of junk 😂
@ArndroidInc
@ArndroidInc 3 года назад
You should always get the right tool for the job. This car isn't designed for off road recreation. The issue isn't the Kona, this issue is you.
@joeb2588
@joeb2588 3 года назад
Exactly. It's an elantra platform.
@LifeAfterLosing
@LifeAfterLosing 5 лет назад
Meant for people who are going to lease it for 3 years and then get a new one. No way I would buy a car with a dual clutch and expect to commute in stop and go traffic everyday for years and it be trouble free. All this test shows is that dual clutch transmissions should be avoided.
@christophereastwood3271
@christophereastwood3271 3 года назад
3 years???? What, Hyundai cover the drive train for 10 years or 100k miles. 🤦‍♂️
@WaywardPondering
@WaywardPondering 3 года назад
Nice review and I learned something about AWDs. I am a Subaru owner, but a coworker said people in the market for a Crosstrek are getting the Kona which made me curious. I think the Crosstrek is slightly more capable in mild off roading. For all weather street driving the Kona is plenty capable and I wish I would have test drove one before buying my Subaru. Edit for spelling.
@ELP1125
@ELP1125 3 года назад
Best looking subcompact SUV.
@dougsydnes8047
@dougsydnes8047 4 года назад
I love my Kona Turbo. I would never drive on this type of terrain. If this is your type of terrain you would want a different vehicle.
@shitloveaduck
@shitloveaduck 4 года назад
Doug Sydnes - or chose the 2.0 litre 6 speed automatic. It will do what all Hyundai’s can do! Just go. (The dual clutch is only realistic in road vehicles that don’t tow.)
@thoin9046
@thoin9046 2 года назад
I have 2022 Kona AWD & DCT N-Line Trim. It has 3 AWD drive mode settings: Normal, Sport & Smart. When driving in the Smart Mode, I wonder if Kona detects the road conditions (e.g. snow, rain, icy, mud, sand, normal, etc.) and automatically sets the AWD properly. Thank you for comments.
@4cats2008
@4cats2008 Год назад
I. wonder the same as a one-day owner of a 2023 Limited awd...
@Thelby1
@Thelby1 3 года назад
Had my local dealer had one of these in a 2.0L I would have purchased it. But, they didn't even have any AWD Konas and that is why I went with my 2021 Subaru Crosstrek and I really Love the Crosstrek Sport 2.5L. Traded in my 2017 Tucson for it. Glad I Did!!
@TrustNo1n
@TrustNo1n 5 лет назад
Just leased one. Will NEVER go off road. I love it!
@jordancatcher6663
@jordancatcher6663 5 лет назад
Pretty sure 90% of the Hyundai/Kia owners out there aren't going to be taking their SUVs off road. 🤷♂
@kevinleon4481
@kevinleon4481 5 лет назад
I took my Tucson and IT did great.
@smrtguy77777
@smrtguy77777 5 лет назад
Of course not, this is about capabilities. When the competition is able to then it’s simply another reason not to choose Hyundai. Why Hyundai has dual clutch is mind boggling, even BMW is getting out of the dual clutch hype.
@PeterXChhanX
@PeterXChhanX 5 лет назад
Its all about giving the OPTION to customers to go off road/inclimate weather driving. You don't want to be short changed when duty calls for it
@dougsydnes8047
@dougsydnes8047 4 года назад
I own one and yea not taking it off road. If you are an off road kind of person you would buy a different car.
@marklagace5728
@marklagace5728 4 года назад
Never had off road problems with my 1.6T . You just got to understand how a duel clutch transmission works
@snowcat3116
@snowcat3116 5 лет назад
Can you also debunk the old myth "use the brake pedal to mimic lockers action" by testing both AWD (range rover?) and 4WD (wrangler? ) on rollers ?
@kartboarder22g17
@kartboarder22g17 5 лет назад
haha, its not possible unless you had a setting to select proportionetly which tire was braked. I do understand that brakes plus acceleration can modify the traction situation though. Just not as effectively as actual individual wheel braking.
@ERICtheLATE
@ERICtheLATE 5 лет назад
@@kartboarder22g17 Well, light brake pedal "~locks" front, light console e-brake "~locks" rear. DCT is for a track or highway car only.
@kartboarder22g17
@kartboarder22g17 5 лет назад
@@ERICtheLATE yea but lock a rear right you can't do. Fully agree with DCT not for offroad worst tranny for offroad.
@turkishgod5903
@turkishgod5903 5 лет назад
Guys I can confirm this. I have a kona 1.6t awd. And one day it was snowing really bad and I took a turn and there was ice and slippery snow and the awd kicked in and I was able to correct my oversteer. And this van behind me with fwd spun out.
@4cats2008
@4cats2008 Год назад
What driving mode were you in? I'm a brand new owner (2023 Limited AWD) and wondering which to use, Smart or Normal. I know that Sport if for faster take-offs. And do all of the driving modes put car into AWD when car senses it's needed?
@turkishgod5903
@turkishgod5903 Год назад
@@4cats2008 I was just in normal mode. I would just stick with normal too. And all modes the car is still in awd. Unless you use the awd lock button, then the car will be split 50/50 power until you hit a certain mph. But the cars system is very smart. I would recommend you use awd lock if you are in very slippery environments.
@timfox2344
@timfox2344 5 лет назад
Kuna was launched on a Hawaiian Mountain .... on a paved road. That’s all you really need to know.
@cadsux
@cadsux 5 лет назад
Yep, Roman took it up to an elevation of 14,000 feet and there was snow.
@palebeachbum
@palebeachbum 5 лет назад
People hate on CVTs all day but dual clutch trannies are very problematic and expensive when they fail as well. Nowadays, best bet is just a regular old torque converter auto. It's one of the reasons why I went with a new Elantra over other options.
@tonychau1983
@tonychau1983 5 лет назад
I'll still take a dct over a cvt
@palebeachbum
@palebeachbum 5 лет назад
@@tonychau1983 living in the city, of personally take a CVT over DCT. Constant up and doenshifts grow annoying asbdoes the jerky sensations of clutch action with a DCT. I might prefer DCT out on open roads.
@tonychau1983
@tonychau1983 5 лет назад
@@palebeachbum I live in a congested city . I rather ride public transportation before I get another cvt car
@palebeachbum
@palebeachbum 5 лет назад
@@tonychau1983 why? Did it give you trouble? Or you just didnt like how a CVT drives?
@tonychau1983
@tonychau1983 5 лет назад
@@palebeachbum the way it drives. And when you need the power it'll bog downs. And it jerks when slowly coming to a stop. Only pro was it saved a little gas. I do agree with you I rather have a torque converter auto.
@heikkiputtonen3165
@heikkiputtonen3165 Месяц назад
Yeah good video. I own Kona 1.6 Turbo AWD and this car works very well here in Finland in all season weather conditions. I have no need to go off road that much.
@BrokenFiddles
@BrokenFiddles 5 лет назад
The overheating clutch was the same reason Fiat 500L got burned right from the start. Although, that was a regular gearbox with automated clutch. People did not know how to drive those cars and prolonged crawling in drive throughs or on a highway in rush hour caused the clutch to overheat. The only way the car could crawl was to slip the clutch which quickly resulted in heat buildup. The gearbox problem quickly become publicised and otherwise good car soon became stigmatized.
@GriffXJ
@GriffXJ 5 лет назад
The worst "off road" conditions the Kona will ever see are probably a snowy road, and maybe an occasional and fairly maintained dirt road
@combatveteranusnavy2012
@combatveteranusnavy2012 2 года назад
I'm considering a 2022 Kona AWD, N Line or Limited. Both have the dual clutch transmission. You mentioned snow. Well, snow can easily match what the Kona was dealing with on that hill. Which means, if you happen to be travelling in a snowstorm, will the transmission heat up as well.? Then what, move over to the side of the road and wait until the DCT cools off. What if there is NO side of the road? Now What?
@travisp11
@travisp11 4 года назад
I bought a 2020 Kona SEL Plus AWD about three months ago and have driven it in heavy rain, gravel roads and mud and while most cars could go through it the Kona goes right through and fells very connected. Can’t wait to drive it in the snow and ice this winter!
@jonnylowkon
@jonnylowkon 5 лет назад
The 7 speed dual clutch is the whole reason I’m looking into the 2.0 with the 6speed auto and awd for the wife.
@arefeshghi
@arefeshghi 5 лет назад
If the transmission overheats in 2 seconds, what's that impressive awesome superb extraordinary AWD junk/ system good for?! :)) These are not made for offroad driving! Just be happy that their AWD makes it a little bit safer driving from your kids school to the shopping center and then, home! :))
@pmoua08
@pmoua08 5 лет назад
somebody is getting overpaid to say its a great awd lol
@alexmobil7463
@alexmobil7463 5 лет назад
Exactly! A DCT transmission is great on road and thats it! The AWD it is ok but for ice or snow! Here they got to make videos at any price! Body clearance 6,2 inches and they brought this CUV on Goldmine Hill! Hahaha!
@6spdkeg
@6spdkeg 5 лет назад
@@alexmobil7463 If you are going to test a vehicle, you actually go somewhere that will test it. don't just go to a place where any minivan will pass with some luck and good driving.
@xxXXXxxFreddyxxXXxx
@xxXXXxxFreddyxxXXxx 5 лет назад
Because you can get the awd system on all versions of the kona and only the top trim has that dual clutch lower trims you a conventional automatic that shouldn’t have that overheating issue
@MO-hq4iz
@MO-hq4iz 5 лет назад
Its design for winter driving, not offroad.
@doubled8247
@doubled8247 5 лет назад
How would the 2.0 non turbo with the traditional automatic transmission do?
@dyingangelo
@dyingangelo 5 лет назад
Better for crawling speed
@dyingangelo
@dyingangelo 5 лет назад
Might also last longer
@fil1329
@fil1329 3 года назад
How about a 6 speed manual with AWD.....cant beat that if it has a good clutch First gear could be really low too....👍😉
@BoatPickers
@BoatPickers 2 года назад
Great Review. I do take my Kona into the Australian Outback and it handles pretty much anything super well. I am so impressed with the little Kona. It's an amazing package for the coin. We shared your Video "Hyundai Kona Owners" on Facebook also. I noticed on your first Vid doing an off-road test, you stopped the Kona dead before asking it to go over a 5" wedge shaped rock that would act like a wheel chock. Any AWD would struggle to do that. ;-)
@Sarkus01
@Sarkus01 5 лет назад
Why do you keep ignoring the 2.0/6AT version of the Kona? The 1.6/7DC is for buyers who want a sportier road car, not for the more utilitarian market. While the Kona isn’t an off reader (ground clearance makes that clear), I suspect the 6AT version would do better on Gold Mine Hill.
@kartboarder22g17
@kartboarder22g17 5 лет назад
I bet your right. They should go over these facts at the start of their video. Like hey we are testing this vehicle today, but keep in mind that there are 3 or 4 or whatever different drivetrains available for this one and result would vary.
@mattsitsback
@mattsitsback 5 лет назад
you guys should try it with the lower trim levels with the 6 speed auto.
@bikeman1x11
@bikeman1x11 4 года назад
who needs the turb0- more to fail- the 2.0 liter is easy to maintain and the regular trans is fine
@jeffmercier7252
@jeffmercier7252 3 года назад
Any luck trying out the 2 L with the 6 speed auto. ?
@miller1
@miller1 3 года назад
There is a trim level for the Kona with AWD and the 2.0L 4cyl 6A transmission that should eliminate the Dual Clutch transmission concern (albeit with less HP and Torque than the Turbo version tested). Would be good to see a retest with that setup...
@kevinennis1631
@kevinennis1631 Год назад
My 2021 Hyundai Kona was at Reliable Hyundai in Springfield Missouri for over 1 1/2 years. It only had 6500 miles on it and under full warranty. The dealership experience was horrible. The excuse, week after week, month after month, was that the couldn’t get approval from Hyundai Customer Care. Only after getting an attorney involved, did they finally take the car back. During that time, they didn’t give me a loaner vehicle. I spent over $16,000 for 1 1/2 years of rental car expenses. I was expecting full reimbursement, but they only reimbursed $4000. What a scam! I finally went down the street and bought a Toyota Camry. I learned a lesson. I hope you avoid what I experienced.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 лет назад
Great result in roller test, so far the best of all Hyundai cars.
@miller1
@miller1 3 года назад
There is a trim level for the Kona with AWD and the 2.0L 4cyl 6A transmission that should eliminate the Dual Clutch transmission concern (albeit with less HP and Torque than the Turbo version tested). Would be good to see a retest with that setup...
@Joaquin-227
@Joaquin-227 5 лет назад
I had alot of trouble crossing the baja with my Kona.
@AeroBuilders
@AeroBuilders 5 лет назад
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
@AeroBuilders
@AeroBuilders 5 лет назад
I would go VW Golf Alltrack SEL for the type of driving you attempted with the Kona. The Hyundai Kona is built to handle rain and snow better than a typical FWD only small car...and handle light dirt road driving...that's about it. ;-)
@learyxx2678
@learyxx2678 4 года назад
Omg this is perfect for me, I visit my parents often and they're living off-grid on a mildly rough dirt road. To think I was thinking of choosing a new Altima previously.
@iamasmurf1122
@iamasmurf1122 3 года назад
these vehicles are not designed for offroad , just because they are AWD actually means nothing SUV does not mean a proper 4WD vehicle
@SaraK_69
@SaraK_69 4 года назад
I'm going to get a Kona 1.6 Turbo AWD for my winter car and keep my GTI for Summer!
@wrzl1675
@wrzl1675 5 лет назад
With an AWD economy car based vehicle you should never need to power brake it. This was not built for off road smh
@davidsprius
@davidsprius 5 лет назад
I drive a Santa fe sport awd, and I'd never take it off roading. I'm sure no Kona drivers will ever do this 😂
@goodlord5
@goodlord5 5 лет назад
i got an acura rdx turbo shawd and I make offroad with it
@dchawk81
@dchawk81 5 лет назад
Only because I don't have rollers.
@MEAMERIE
@MEAMERIE 5 лет назад
They took one off road it did pretty good. I think Dave Erickson did also
@jimpease280
@jimpease280 4 года назад
I take out through the pastures to check fences and horses. It's done fine but in most cases, the Ram goes out there especially when it's wet.
@JamesRussoMillas
@JamesRussoMillas 5 лет назад
Could you test the model with the normal Auto?
@miller1
@miller1 3 года назад
There is a trim level for the Kona with AWD and the 2.0L 4cyl 6A transmission that should eliminate the Dual Clutch transmission concern (albeit with less HP and Torque than the Turbo version tested). Would be good to see a retest with that setup...
@mr.2cents.846
@mr.2cents.846 5 лет назад
Man I love the muscular shape of the Kona. Please do the same that with a 2nd generation 2012 Ford Escape Limited.
@rangerover06sc
@rangerover06sc 5 лет назад
People really need to stop saying a center diff lock(which in this case is really just the clutch pack locking the front and rear axles together) locks you into a 50/50% torque split. That is simply not true. When you lock the front and rear together more torque is produced at whichever side has the most traction. Meaning that 100% of the torque could potentially go to either axle as long as the opposite axle has no traction. That's how automakers can advertise that there hadlex style awd systems can sent more torque to the back even though the back wheels are never going to spin faster than than the front.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 лет назад
Agree, however torque split advertise thing comes also from weight transfer, not only traction.
@andrewsnow7386
@andrewsnow7386 5 лет назад
Agreed, that's a terrible way to describe a diff lock. In fact, a 50/50 torque split is what an OPEN differential does. To be more precise, an open differential always supplies (approximately) the same torque to to both outputs.* The whole reason to lock a differential is so you can supply more torque in one direction than the other. *Notes: 1) Friction, the drag of the oil in the differential, and inertial effects can create small differences in the two output torques from a differential, but these will not change the 50/50 split by much. 2) An open differential can be designed to give a different split than 50/50, for example 40/60 but this is less common.
@DoRC
@DoRC 5 лет назад
"I hate using momentum off-road" said no real offroader ever.
@who27moon
@who27moon 2 года назад
I have the 2018 SE AWD, bought straight off the showroom with 7 miles, and I have nearly 100,000 on it now. I did not have the intent of purchasing an off-road vehicle. If that was the goal, I would have gone with a small Jeep or a used Subaru. I wanted something that could handle a casual beach trip, but also classy enough to take to the theatre. My first experience off-road was on the beach in Southeast Texas where the tide is unpredictable, disrupting the sand on a regular basis. Where it looks stable, it occasionally isn't. I accidentally put the Kona through a compromising scenario and it handled surprisingly well and got itself out of a jam. After many trips after that, it handled better than your usual '98 z71 in the sand, most likely due to its lesser weight. It glided over the deep sand without a problem. My next "jewel in the crown," per say, was my trip to Northwest Arkansas. In order to reach many of the hiking trails, we were forced to take on some steep inclines on unpaved paths. Steepest was nearly 40 degrees. One of the paths was totally unpaved, and much rather an ATV trail for hunters on the mountain. Some of those inclines matched the others. I passed outfitted Jeeps, trucks, and side-by-side's while driving cautiously. They thought I was crazy; some of them complimented the ride's capabilities. That particular day, we were on the trail for nearly 3 hours round trip. I get my oil changed every 7-8k miles and the sealed transmission has handled everything without overheating or showing any signs of compromise. I have never seen the warning light that is featured in this video, although I'm sure it is very possible with the 1.6L. Everything I have done so far has been atop the factory rims, and at the time, on the factory tires. I have since replaced all four tires, getting nearly 55k miles out of the factory. Long story short, if you want a capable vehicle, this is your ride. If you want an off-roading machine, get something made for it. I am inspired, though, to purchase some rims made to take a little heat and some all terrain tires for those Arkansas situations.
@dachanist
@dachanist 3 года назад
2:05 you have the passenger front wheel pinned on a rock with no traction on driver's front or passenger rear. There's no way you were getting over that without turning traction off and gunning it.
@gregcalvert8696
@gregcalvert8696 3 года назад
Just bought Kona SEL because I needed something with awd to haul dogs, bikes and kayaks. I have been happy with it so far. I am looking at long term ownership so the non-turbo 2.0 and normal 6 speed auto made it an easy choice over most in it's class. I will miss my jeep, but I am moving back into town and it almost doubles my gas mpg.
@uTubed007
@uTubed007 5 лет назад
You need to put the tape on the tires once you are up on the rollers. You also need to choose a different colour of tape, yellow would be fine on black tires. Great test thanks!
@jeffmarkle4576
@jeffmarkle4576 5 лет назад
Yeah, blue, really? Didn't have any black tape handy?
@c.j.ravensfan8374
@c.j.ravensfan8374 5 лет назад
Can you do the roller test with the 2019 rav4 hybrid? would love to see how it does.
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 5 лет назад
I think they have done that and it was not that good. Hybrid uses use a separate link with front and rear wheels. I remember them doing this test...am sure of it. The normal RAV4 with AWD is better in my opinion based on the test Tommy did with it.
@kartboarder22g17
@kartboarder22g17 5 лет назад
@@mikefoehr235 There are 3 AWD systems for the RAV4 in the 2019 model. The high end one is available only in sport and Limited trim. Yet I've seen it evaluated on CarQuestion and it wasn't as good as I was expecting. Probably because they have a rear drivetrain disconnect, which hurts it off road.
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 5 лет назад
@@kartboarder22g17 I see..thx
@SDav21
@SDav21 5 лет назад
Dual clutch transmissions are so stupid! Modern automatics like the 9 speed from Mercedes or the 8 speed ZF are almost just as quick and they shift smoother and give far better driveability especially when starting on hills and towing. They're also more reliable. CVT and dual clutch should not exist.
@snowcat3116
@snowcat3116 5 лет назад
Dual clutch makes sense on high end performance cars
@TitanSKiZlz
@TitanSKiZlz 5 лет назад
SnowCat dual clutch also is more fun, specially in manual mode
@zackj997
@zackj997 5 лет назад
You're comparing performance single clutch to a basic dual clutch from a Hyundai. Compare it with a performance dual clutch and it's much better.
@SDav21
@SDav21 5 лет назад
@@snowcat3116 But even those can just use a good, well sorted auto. Like Mercedes does. Their AMG cars use a multi clutch transmission but it is a normal auto with a wet start up clutch so you get quicker shift times but at the same time you get the smooth and torque converter feel of a normal auto in normal driving conditions.
@SDav21
@SDav21 5 лет назад
@@TitanSKiZlz Not when you're trying to drive in traffic. Or move away on a steep incline. I don't like them.
@mcciaccio
@mcciaccio Год назад
That seems plenty good enough to go up my dirt road when its covered in snow!
@poppa_da_corn
@poppa_da_corn 5 лет назад
Thanks Tommy. Always appreciate your reviews and tests!
@outworkthework
@outworkthework 3 года назад
Great video and appreciate the real world results. Great looking vehicle and currently shopping for a replacement for my aging SUV. I am not sure if you have already tested it but would love to see the 2.0 N/A AWD trim off road, especially in snowy conditions.
@jaguarreal9116
@jaguarreal9116 3 года назад
Keep in mind that all reputable analyzers have shown that a 2WD with snow tires handles better in the snow than the same corresponding AWD. You are better off using snow tires.
@joker927
@joker927 2 года назад
This video was super interesting. You hear AWD and think it can off road. Cool stuff!
@linard76
@linard76 5 лет назад
A couple of years ago, Roman took a Mercedes GLA250 to the top of Gold Mine Hill which also has a DCT. I wonder what are the key differences that allowed the GLA to get to the top without getting stuck?
@nrcg2317
@nrcg2317 5 лет назад
I believe it has a torque converter. No overheated transmission there...
@langchauvin1121
@langchauvin1121 4 года назад
You didn't try a different set of tires. Nice test though. Thanks for sharing. 👍
@OverlandTT
@OverlandTT 5 лет назад
Great video Tommy, I love these... I'd like to see it on the ramp on diagonal hill start as you used to. Ps. While your tesla is dented can we see it on the ramp on the above test 👍😊please.
@frzstat
@frzstat 4 года назад
Excellent tests. Very well done report.
@diydrivenGA
@diydrivenGA 5 лет назад
Kona isn't meant to go off road..though Hyundai won't admit it....it's to get out of snow when parked....and some dirt if you slipped in it.....but yeah, DCT and AWD is a no no...these DCT's are proving to be quite an issue with any type of driving that would heat it up....rather put a tried and true AT and increase power to make up for Drivetrain loss via the tune they nerfed in the first place (1.6t) or an MT in there. Good try with the DCT Hyundai but please try to go after VW's DSG instead of Ford's DCT....
@TheWeissenheimer
@TheWeissenheimer 5 лет назад
And we all know how Ford's DCT went with the Focus LMAO. Complete fail
@Torsee
@Torsee 5 лет назад
Cool tests! Good result! Fine Urban Assault Vehicle! Emphasis on Urban! My Rant! When you turn off the computer you should be able to thrash your own vehicle as you see fit. None of this corporate America crap, where the wheels just shut down. Corporate America is worried I'm gonna hit a tree an sue...well I want that right back! Where do I sign the waiver? Gold Mine Hill should have been doable! My old two wheeled drive 1973 Datsun 610 would have clobbered that second section...might have bounced a few times .. 😂
@arefeshghi
@arefeshghi 5 лет назад
Companies are worried about their image and paying for the warranty!
@Torsee
@Torsee 5 лет назад
That's where the waiver comes in.
@arefeshghi
@arefeshghi 5 лет назад
@@Torsee LOL!
@27Zangle
@27Zangle 5 лет назад
Impressive system but smelling the clutches so quickly is scary.
@alanchatfield5785
@alanchatfield5785 4 года назад
Great presentation on Hyundai KONA awd slip test very helpful thank you. Alan
@KillaCityKid427
@KillaCityKid427 4 года назад
But you do have a locking rear differential...every 2019 Hyundai with AWD has a locking rear differential .
@harrycallahan9733
@harrycallahan9733 3 года назад
I believe you meant the AWD Lock button. It's a *simulated* locking CENTER differential, not a real rear locker :)
@richyrocket
@richyrocket 5 лет назад
It will do the repetitive "rev then grab" thing if you don't floor it. If you floor it, it won't disengage the clutch or rev really high. It just goes. It works much better.
@garyeisenzimmer1542
@garyeisenzimmer1542 4 года назад
I bought a brand new SEL Tech package Kona 2019 it did not have the Dual clutch in it which I'm glad the blind spot system in it went out at 200 miles Hyundai worked and worked on it there was no fix for it Hyundai bought back my 2019 Kona which I have problems with blind-spot so I bought a brand new 2019 Tucson night Edition
@christopherpaluck737
@christopherpaluck737 4 года назад
Most people buy this vehicle for on-road traction and stability. It excels in this area. I Love mine. If your plan is to do serious off-roading, buy a Jeep.
@thetomasloretta
@thetomasloretta 3 года назад
That’s a pretty vehicle which almost no one will take off roading, but if they did they should use the appropriate tires.
@thetechlibrarian
@thetechlibrarian 2 года назад
As much as I’m not a fan of Hyundais. I have to say there H trac is very good awd system, magna powertrain helped them make it.
@kartboarder22g17
@kartboarder22g17 5 лет назад
So basically Hyundai is locking the diff. at start. It is the only way you would be able to move instantly when you had two rollers on the front. And I Applaud them for doing this. I don't know why Subaru and other automakers don't do this with awd vehicles. Lock up at ever stopped location and as you hit 5 mph, disengage it. This also proves that if you are going off road a DCT and a Manual transmission are not ideal. Also proves that the DCT is worse off road than the CVT as a CVT still has a torque converter. Engineering Explains talks about the benefits of a torque converter off road if you are reading this and wondering why that is. I don't have the video off hand though.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 лет назад
Not exactly the diff, but the clutch-pack. And many automakers engage it at start (that is not complete lock) if wheels are in straight position.
@andrewmackay1515
@andrewmackay1515 Год назад
Tyres are also important. Those tyres are for normal roads not for going off road.
@hardstoner8095
@hardstoner8095 3 года назад
The AWD is no OFF ROADS for rain/snow/slippery. 4X4 is for ALL OFF ROADS/SNOW/RAINS/MUDDY.....with experience drivers!!
@mmsb13_420
@mmsb13_420 4 месяца назад
Does the car need to be stopped before pushing the awd lock button? I have a 2022 Kona SEL with AWD. I live on a short steep private road that turns into a muddy mess (think mud bog) when it rains. Wondering if I should leave it in automatic mode or use the lock button?
@harrylenon9594
@harrylenon9594 5 лет назад
Why would you ever get a dual clutch instead of a normal Auto? It doesn't seem like it has any advantages whatsoever
@SteelHex
@SteelHex 2 года назад
Dual clutch was originally invented for racing cars to shorten gear change time. It’s essentially a manual transmission with two sets of clutches controlled by a computer. With DCT the 1.6L turbo Kona has acceleration comparable to an older 1.8L turbo Audi TT (also with DCT), which is a sports car. The Limited and Ultimate trim of the Kona with the turbo engine are built more for speed than offroad capability. The 235/45R18 tires are great for road stability at high speed but bad for bumpy dirt paths.
@MisterrJmark
@MisterrJmark 5 лет назад
What about the 2.0 liter AWD? Since that one has a standard transmission?
@nrcg2317
@nrcg2317 5 лет назад
That would be fine in challenging terrain...
@nrcg2317
@nrcg2317 4 года назад
That's fine because that vehicle has a transmission with a torque converter. It isn't as fast as the 1.6 Turbo, but you won't have the problems that you see with the DCT.
@BerettaM9USAF
@BerettaM9USAF 2 года назад
Ok, I have driven/owned real trucks with 4x4, 4x2 as well as SUV's [jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee's] IF you are buying this Kona AWD [like I did last week in N Line trim] you should NOT be purposely off-roading! I got the AWD to assist with our irregular northern IL winters, constant freeze/thaw/slush/rain and other unpredictable road conditions. If you do purposely take this off roading on a trail you fit into one of two [2] camps: Idiots OR folks who need to double their med's..I guess a third would be a mixture of both previously mentioned. This is a passenger car = compact crossover! It has minimal clearances and a DCT.
@oscarhernandez5287
@oscarhernandez5287 5 лет назад
Same Issue with Ford Escape 2.0 Turbo 4W?, greetings from Colombia.
@uTubed007
@uTubed007 5 лет назад
You need to do TWO "three roller ramp test" : first test with a rear wheel on the ground and do a second test with a front wheel on the ground. That way you will most probably show the apportioning of torque front-to-back axles.
@hamerplayer1229
@hamerplayer1229 5 лет назад
Took a Kona on a test drive and when I got back the smell of burnt clutch was in the air. I was not beating on the car at all. Off the shopping list it came because if it was going to do that on a test drive imagine what it would do during ownership. Reminds me of the 1993 RX7 I test drove years ago. It was a spirited test drive and when I returned to the dealer it was belching coolant.
@RyanRKJ
@RyanRKJ 5 лет назад
I also noticed a burning smell after test driving a Kona. I was pushing it hard though.
@VAMJJ
@VAMJJ 3 года назад
People who are off-roading don't drive Hyundai Kona. 99.9 percent of drivers will drive be city and Suburban AWD is only necessary for places that get a lot of snow.
@ethanmckibbin
@ethanmckibbin 5 лет назад
The Kona handles Alaskan Winter just fine I don't need it to go on offroad trails offroad rated cars struggle on.
@susyboyd9306
@susyboyd9306 5 лет назад
Good to know, thanks.
@EverydayCars
@EverydayCars 5 лет назад
Im guessing it did so well because it starts off powering all 4 wheels all the time. Not front wheels only. My 2016 explorer is like that.
@kevinennis1631
@kevinennis1631 3 года назад
My 2021 Hyundai Kona has been at Reliable Hyundai (Springfield MO) for 10 months now! 8,000 miles and it has had 2 failed transmissions and they are putting in the third one! This has been a nightmare. Dealership is a joke. Hyundai corporate is a joke. Go see for your self. It’s next to the service car wash. It’s the dark grey color. They have lied and lied about the repair or lack there of. I regret getting a Hyundai.
@glamdring0007
@glamdring0007 5 лет назад
The Kona will likely be the next SUV for the wife...no plans to ever go off road so not an issue.
@ERICtheLATE
@ERICtheLATE 5 лет назад
Can you do manual or paddle shifting on the hill climb? Besides shifting at 4,500 rpms for safety, it should hold first or second solid for steady pressure. They do not make it very simple to recalibrate the clutches after wear on these new dct's. Once it senses excess slip, it goes into limp, cutting throttle and holding 3rd or 4th.
@MichaelRGibson
@MichaelRGibson 2 года назад
Thank you. That was the type of review I have been looking for on Hyundai's AWD.
@DHEvans
@DHEvans 2 года назад
If torque transfer is slow with a dual clutch, how will this save me driving on a mountain road at 80 kmph ?
@haciendadad
@haciendadad 5 лет назад
Great video but what was the "big issue"? It seemed like it did quite well.
@EliteprosoldierMW3
@EliteprosoldierMW3 3 года назад
There is no issue he's just using baseless factoids
@SJLGG
@SJLGG 4 года назад
Who was stupid to think this was meant for off-roading. It’s a city car (to work and back) and deal with ice, rain, or snow in city as well. Wasn’t meant for pure off-roadingz. Might as well treat the Honda CR-V like a wrangler
@_baller
@_baller 5 лет назад
Kona reminds me of a simple 90s design...good job Audi designer
@tomdolgin5441
@tomdolgin5441 5 лет назад
The dual clutch putting power to the wheels in off road simulated conditions is similar to the Subaru Outback with its CVT. With traction on, the wheels barely slip at all, especially on Subaru’s CVT. At least the Kona spun its wheels and squealed off the rollers.
@therandomtester9561
@therandomtester9561 5 лет назад
The first Nissan X-Trail supposedly partly engaged 4wd from stop regardles of 2WD or 4WD was selected. Then disengaged rear wheels with some speed. It may be the same for this as it did so well with fronts on the rollers.
@cindykeselowski899
@cindykeselowski899 3 года назад
So do you recommend AWD or FWD? I live in Michigan but really my FWD vehicle has served me well. The AWD costs $1,000 more and decreases mpg by 2.
@shitloveaduck
@shitloveaduck 4 года назад
I would like to see the off-road test with just the 2.0 litre and the 6 speed auto with AWD. I am sure the first 2 stages will be relatively simple. The 3rd stage, well, it is just a Kona. Dual clutch is awesome on the road, but not off-road or towing. Maybe with a 2020 model? A Preferred? Try not to get the fully loaded model and NO dual clutch. There are two transmissions and I think that needs to be clarified to those that are not very aware of this model.
@arthurwood7525
@arthurwood7525 2 года назад
Exactly! And in this instance, ironically, it's the base AWD model that should be superior here!
@John-sn4hl
@John-sn4hl 2 года назад
The 2.0 is better?
@arthurwood7525
@arthurwood7525 2 года назад
@@John-sn4hl For off-road awd capability, yes.
@shitloveaduck
@shitloveaduck 2 года назад
@@John-sn4hl - The transmission is significantly better for off-road use, the dual clutch transmission has a lot of slip because it’s more like an automatically actuated manual transmission. It shifts incredibly quick, but needs the slip to compensate to a degree. Off- road when you are working the transmission har like small boulders, wallows or tree roots where you have to put a lot of power down to get moving the transmission slips and hears right up. The regular automatic is just that. It has a lock up torque converter that eliminates slip inside and there’s no where near the heat build up. The 6 speed automatic transmission is the primary difference. If you are not working the vehicle beyond hauling friends around and just using it as a city/highway vehicle and are not towing. The Dual Clutch is much better, in my opinion, off-road, no wayyyy. It’s almost a s bad as, if not worse than, a CVT transmission off-road.
@ianmcculloch6839
@ianmcculloch6839 5 лет назад
Your are in a small suv, off road , you’re not in a Jeep. You also stated the Kona had lots of room, wrong again back seats are a little tight for adults, apart from that it’s a good vehicle with the 1.6 Turbo.
@DoctorSkillz
@DoctorSkillz 5 лет назад
I see the "transmission temperature high" warning quite often in the Kona. I ignore it because of the 100K warranty.
@trippplefive
@trippplefive 4 года назад
That transmission will die at 101k miles.
@dougn2350
@dougn2350 4 года назад
High temperature events are recorded in the computer memory. Youre voiding the warranty
@nrcg2317
@nrcg2317 5 лет назад
Mercedes Benz GLA 250 AWD is a dual clutch as well, but as far as I know that dual clutch transmission has a torque converter. If that is the case, why wouldn't have Hyundai done that for their DCTs?
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