The Importance of Bad Players 

sorry if I sounded off and nasally i had covid when i was recording the audio 🤢🤢

*"If fighting is sure to result in victory, than you must fight"* -Sun Tzu said that

being bad is fun because you don't know whats goin on

Sad F2Ps can't talk anymore but when they look at you and nod their head it speaks more then thousands of words.

I remember my first server was the Doomsday Halloween event. Seeing the mercinaries with large bobbing heads shoved into a bumper cart while playing football (or soccer) was the greatest first impression I will ever have to an FPS game.

These aren't BAD players, they are new players who are learning the game, not players who are bad at the game. This is a great difference

I’m fascinated by watching new players react to the game as someone whose been a fan since it’s release and a consistent player since 2011. I’m a tryhard medic main and I love pocketing new players to give them some leeway to fuck around and experiment knowing my heals will let them survive mistakes that would otherwise end their fun

I remember my first time playing tf2 on thunder mountain, didn't know where I was, or how to play. All I knew is that I was a heavy with a big ass gun from a lazy purple video and that taught me more than enough to learn slowly. Nobody was toxic to me and thus I stuck around.

This is why I miss matches in current games just throwing a bunch of randoms on a map and letting the chaos unfold. It was always different and always something interesting.

As a bad TF2 player, I can say that I feel so inclusive! No one can destroy the community.

i won't lie; the real thing that kept me in TF2 is seeing that one "Rise of the Epic Scout" video and thinking "wow... i wanna be just like him" and so i did. 5000 hours and i'm still trying to get closer to being like that Epic Scout from an SFM, but in-game.

1:53 I once met a fp2 on a mge server. I joined and gave him some tips to play the game, he told me to wait and said thank you when I was leaving, that brought tears to my eyes. Please cherish FTPs they are our community's hope. Hope he does well rn.

gotta give props to the Veteran F2P’s who have been playing the game for years without buying anything.

I think what TF2 has going for it is that it's team-based. Your team, no matter how bad, will always be able to give a learning player the space they need to learn. I don't think TF2 is all that hard to learn because of it, as opposed to SSBM's more elitist play-style. Great video, I'm glad there are others out there who cherish F2Ps as much as I do. You've earned yourself a sub!

Being bad is pretty fun cuz everything looks like chaos, every interaction is fresh and getting the smallest of rewards like a single kill feels amazing

When I first got tf2, I absolutely hated it. I’d gotten it with the orange box way previously. But watching tf2 content made me realize I could really enjoy it with enough time. I’m still pretty bad, but I liked to challenge myself to improve my aim and movement, and it makes the game, and many others, a lot more fun now.

One of the first matches I played was this absolutely insane game of turbine. Both teams were very evenly matched and had really good players, and it was a complete onslaught in that one bottom section that leads into the Intel. It lasted like several hours and somehow we kept managing to repel their super coordinated attacks and uber pushes just enough for them to have to regroup. I forgot how it ended, but 12 year old me was so immersed in turtling that match that TF2 went from just some game I played every now and then to an autistic obsession that lasted like 3 years lol.

I know that it annoys older players. But as a Medic, when I see someone struggling... I like to pocket them. Help them out the best I can, ya know? There is such a special feeling.. when you help a new player get those first achievements.

The community is what makes the game fun for new players. The youtube tutorials, the SFMs, even the team videos are what got me into tf2. When i first installed tf2, i played the tutorial and a match with bots *not sniper bots*. It was fun seeing that whenever i pressed e , a medic would instantly come and heal me. Seeing all the bots taunt at when i i look towards them before that match started was really fun. I had a lot of fun playing with bots. I knew exactly what every class' role was because i had seen a lot of videos and tf2 meme compelations on youtube.Then the next day, i joined casual. I spammed e, nothing happened, i tried the voice commands, nothing happened, i tried the text chat, nothing happened, the only thing that happened was text saying *Voice communication is not available for this account*. I loved the voice lines that the characters said, but the fact that i wasn't able to use these voice lines made me angry. I quickly searched on youtube why i wasnt able to talk and then saw that its not just me. Every f2p in tf2 cannot talk. So, i joined ckmmunity servers. Mainly, UGC servers. The 2fort and the hightower without carts ones. It was amazing seeing the community communicate with each other and me being a part of it. I tried uncletopia servers but i cant join any one becauee they are all too far from where i live and i will be instantly kicked by the server because of the high ping (i live in india and the only casual servers i can join are in singapore as no one in india really e even knows about tf2. Ive never met a person irl who knows about tf2). I decided to give casual a second chance and it worked. I realised that i have to keep playing and improving myself even without communication. Aand then i saw the actual casual server bots and was like wow! They have REALLY good aim! Untill i realised they were kicking him because of being a cheater. The bot problem is getting out of hand. One time, i finally decided to improve at being sniper. I played sniper, knowing im bad at it. And someone using voice communication told the entire team that i was a bot. He probably saw f2p in my name and the fact that i was a sniper and instantly voted to kick me. And i could do nothing, i couldnt even say that im not a bot. Its been almost 3 months since i have installed tf2 and im still playing as a f2p and i enjoy it. When im too fed up of not being able to talk, i join skial servers and have fun there. I even joined jumpacademy and learned how to rocket jump. Buut... i deleted my the original because of inventory space. Aand then i found an exploit which lets us have 2 or more items stacked into one item slot and still be useable. So now i have 67 items in an inventory space of 50. I found about this after i had already deleted my original, bison, the mercenary badge, AND THE HOLY MACKEREL. I want to have the bison just for the reasin that theres a pretty cool mod that changes how it looks and the original for rocket jumping and the mackerel for [H A H A . F U N I . P H I S H]. I love tf2 and will keep playing it f2p or not. Everyone thinks im a noob because im a free to play but no, not all people who dont wear hats are noobs. Dont judge a player by its hats.

I started this game back in June of 2011, and all I can recall for my first time was playing Goldrush for my first map, using parent email for my name, and going to orange maps with the one tower is the middle, for early Community quicksearch stuff, and that's basically it.

I remember the first tf2 video I watched was "How it feels to play pyro" by Lazypurple, and I can't think of a better impression for this game. 1.2k hours and here I am : )

I've been playing tf2 for about a decade now. Yesterday I stood up for a kid getting picked on by some older players in a casual 5cp match, and the match had made night as he was screeching in the mic with joy as we won both times haha. If you love the game, don't pick on new players, they are the future of this game.

i might have 2k hours on tf2, but my aim as shit as a new player

I think my first experience was playing on 2fort as spy… I didn’t know how to switch weapons, so I was just standing there with the gun, shooting blindly. I killed a couple of friendlies and didn’t understand why people were yelling at me… good times.

My first game, i instantly bought kazotsky kick from the mannco store so i wasnt technically a f2p, but i found it really fun because everyone in the 2fort lobby i joined was actually really nice and helped me and let me kill them to get the gibus and pyro vision goggles :)

Currently I'm really bad at TF2 but I've got 115 hours. I think from my perspective, what helped a lot was playing offline only for like the first 30-40 hours. That can honestly be a godsend for new players, not stressing about whether or not people are gonna be upset with you for being bad and trash talking you over getting lost, not understanding what's going on, etc. There aren't any sweats or jerks and you can just focus on learning the mechanics. Now I play almost exclusively on community servers- no bots (with a few occasional exceptions but I've only seen 3 bots in hundreds or maybe thousands of times I've played) The main reason I still love TF2 even though my K:D is usually in the toilet is because I'm just so invested in the characters and universe, it's always fun to just immerse myself in it that way. But another huge factor is watching myself improve and finally learning new skills. It's so satisfying when people would help me learn and show me what to do, and it finally fell into place. The first time I got a kill, the first time I killed a whole bunch of enemies at once, the first time I had more kills than deaths in a match, the first time I got on the top 3 players at the end... It's so exciting to watch myself grow in that way

I am a free to play. And i'm quite good at the game after over 3000 hours. I don't really get why spending a lot of money on cosmetics makes people think you're a pro player.

I love popping ubers on new players and watching their reactions. Especially if they pull it off.

As a free 2 play, this video really help me realize that I shouldn't get mad because I got stomped by people who have played the game longer than me.

I remember my first game of tf2 being bad. I didnt play the game for a month until I was desperate to play something new because I was too broke to afford another game, so I went back to tf2 during the halloween event. It was a lot of fun then! Eventually I found out what community servers were and I found myself to be a regular in a trade server with a weird castle map. It was like a tiny community with regulars coming back in that server. I miss it still, the server was removed from my favorites list and i never found it again. A good chunk of my hours were spent in that server or this one skyhigh resort 24/7 VSH server or in a x10 randomizer 2fort server.

When I was a new player I was really bad but I had a ton of fun. I bought my first computer purely to play TF2, so when I downloaded the game I played it 24/7

I started playing tf2 in 2020, one of the main things that got me playing was playing it with one of my friends on weekends. I remember we hopped onto a skial server I believe, and it was one of those free item servers. We went heavy and wore the officer's ushanka, the chicken kiev, and the paka parka and beat people to death. He also gave me my first real hat after I got premium, that being the brain bucket since he knew I liked pvz at the time and I still use that hat to this day.

I think my first time on TF2 was PASS Time on Timbertown, i remember playing Scout running left and right shooting people like there's no tomorrow. It was so much fun.

With out bad players we wont have those sick montages of bullying in the game

Back in the day I almost searched for everything that I needed to know before playing this game Yet I'm still suck at it but it's fun to improving your gameplay *The only problem is I'm a support main so I kinda need some stress away pill and some time in therapy after each gameplay*

I got into TF2 by watching STAR_ and Muselk, I didn't have a good enough machine to play the game but I did have RU-vid and I would always fantasize about my favorite loadouts. For some reason I thought that Soda Popper, Cleaver, Sandman was the god-tier of loadouts in the game (back when the cleaver could crit). Fast forward to after I got my first job, paycheck, and computer, and I joined a game of Freight as Scout. And got killed a lot cus I didn't know how to dodge. I almost quit the game outright because I was so disappointed at how hard it was, but I made some friends on a Turbine server (that I still play with to this day) and here I am with 2500+ hours.

Yo just got sent this and found my quake frags in there :0. Great video, I'm also a competitive TF2 player so found this video really interesting and you made some great points. Cheers :]

The other thing about bad or new players is that they have the potential to COUNTER seasoned veterans! A veteran expects you to strafe and to make tactical decisions. What will a newbie do? Throw themselves forward and forget that the A and D keys exist. A new player's sporadic behaviour makes them excellent on offense. Let them throw the enemy off by diving head-first into danger, and immediately follow up with a push from the more experienced players while the enemy is still regaining their balance. Additionally, on classes that don't need incredible aim, such as Pyro, they can actually be incredible Ubercharge targets. A veteran is used to strafing and caution, and subconsciously do that during an uber... but new players? And unskilled players? They like to walk forwards. They like to walk forwards and fire their weapons at enemies indiscriminately. They like to walk forward and throw caution to the wind. This makes them excel at getting the best use out of Ubercharge. Sometimes, that F2P Pyro can be a better Ubercharge target than the Soldier on a killstreak you've been following this entire time. Even the hatless Pyro in the corner there who your team has neglected is easily capable of getting four or five kills with a single uber push, all you have to do is let them, give them that little boost they need. While they may not have a good sense of positioning, boy are they good at dashing at enemies and getting frags. Oh, and another thing, new players will stick to the objective like glue. This makes them even better on offense because, while a lot of people may hesitate to push the defended payload, the new player will charge forward and touch it, resetting the move back timer and giving the team more time to think. And those new players? A team of them is incredibly hard to get off the payload if you're lacking a skilled Soldier, Demoman or Engineer, and even those can fall flat if there's a Pyro who's good at Airblast in the mix. And that stickyspamming demo? Why not give 'em a Kritz charge? Crit stickies are terrifying, and if they know how to aim and hit... hoooooh boy, there's no better way to tear the entire enemy team apart. Oh, and that spy who keeps getting caught before he can make a play? The enemy team may get distracted by the callout and chase on the obvious spy. Use this moment of disorientation to act, it'll be a nice opening to push forward a little. Especially if they (unintentionally) baited the enemy Engie into wrangling their gun. I guess what I'm trying to say is, not only are new players great for the game for the reasons you listed, they're also important in gameplay as well.

As a player that is absolutely garbage I bet I am having far more fun than many of the best players. Sure I die all the time but I still help with the objective and feel accomplished when my minor help clearly makes a little difference. And since I expect to get 0 kills in a match, I'm happy with just hitting a good shot here and there. And lord help me if I get even 1 kill, I'm gonna feel like I just won the game. Don't even get me started on that one time I got "kicked for cheating" I felt like the best player in the world, despite checking the leaderboard and having 0 kills at the time, I did my job enough to make some player mad enough to accuse ME of cheating, that felt so good.

*No New Player we want it. We want 2010's and 2000's Pro-Vintage-Gamer-FPS-Players!*

Im not much of a new tf2 player i just have like 70 hours around on the game, but i quitted around the halloween contracts because they were so hard to make them especially while getting low kill count Idk i just dont have fun in a game full of veterans and community servers i tried them but dont help on the long end sadly so yeah i quitted (I only have tf2 installed for gmod)

I’ve only played tf2 recently and the first few games I was really confused what was happening. The casualness of the game is why I stayed though. I practiced a bunch in offline mode and then realized all of the cool items and stuff were only obtainable through online, and those few games were honestly the greatest fun I’ve had when playing a game. I’ve only mustered up about 20-30 hours currently but I’ve found my footing

I remember all the times I met f2ps in 2fort as a friendly katzotsky kick heavy, they just wanted to have fun man, they always got gunned down

i have never had fun in tf2 casual because i keep getting queued into maps that are small. i then deselected those small maps, and when i finally got in a match with a big map, there's bots or very few players. in those small maps, there's always tryhards with australiums that have very taunting names, and my teammates are clueless players that are a little worse than me (i mean no offense). i just want to quit the game once and for all. i can't possibly improve in this rate because i just die no matter what i do. i tried to change my playstyle many times but they just kill me without a problem. i tried to strafe and dodge as scout, it failed cause they can predict when i land to the ground, i tried to switch it up and play passively but to no results. the last time i've actually had a positive k/d was when i was pocketed by a kritz medic and i was playing heavy. i don't remember anyone pocketing me later on.

The video overall is great and everything, but i swear that poomson gameplay you pulled on the background one of the most unbelieveable things i have seen in this game.

I remember my first game, I was like 7 years old and played sniper on two fort, I think I only got like 1 kill that round.

I can just picture when I got my fist 5k and I was so happy. I was playing soldier on barnblitz with Original, Battalions Backup, and the Equalizer. I think I got like 70 points and it was the first time I had top scored. The total satisfaction and happiness I felt was immeasurable.

Started playing tf2 back in 2021 the first map I played was upward I was very excited at the time not knowing that There was bunch of bots the funny part about this is that I thought they were legit

Over 400 hours, I'm still bad lmao, but now I look even worse because I have an unusual hat, with strange festivized guns, and I'm still ridiculously horrible at the game.

I remember when my brother bought a Orange Box and Xbox 360 in 2008 and it was literally first time I met with TF2. My friends always came to my house at evenings and I begged my parents and my brother to play Xbox for a bit just because TF2 was sooo much fun!

Tbh I don’t care about being good at tf2. I mostly like the weapons or cosmetics. I’m only level 10-20 because I only play community servers since I’m that bad I can’t play casual and I have nearly 800 hours and have been playing since 2021.

I watched tf2 vids 3 months before I got downloaded the game and new a lot more than the average newbie but still got my ass kicked. And that's when i realized i was having fun losing. I found a lot of friends through tf2 and with 1400 hours I'm still a f2p. And just so you know f2ps aren't always newbies.

A really big deal that I try to always help is making sure to ALWAYS tell your team over comms if a new player picked sniper, and to not kick them thinking that they're a bot. I think that could be one of the worst turn offs from the game if I were to start playing nowadays rather than a decade ago, so I always make sure to say something, and I hope you all will too!

Why are newcomers so important? You gave the right analogy with quake, if there were no beginners this game would not be so fun, both for old players and for beginners. Old players would hate each other because someone is superior to them, and newcomers would not even have time to leave the spawn room, they would already be killed. Therefore, everyone should not be angry with newcomers, anyone from scouts to spies (especially doctors, they try their best to help, and if they start yelling at them for "bad treatment", they will never again wants to be a doctor). Sorry for the bad spelling, I used a translator, because I'm from Russia.

Do I really have to pay to chat with other players? The first time I played a scout told me to kill myself and I couldn't respond because I had chat turned off. How can I get hats? But so cheap? I am asking for a quick answer.

Little story I had, I had recently gotten my gibus and I was playing some 2fort engie. Took a guy's metal and he called me out for taking his metal from his dispenser and got me kicked. Funniest thing to me

My first match was weird for me… it was 2 fort and I picked heavy, I didn’t know how to change class so I stuck with him. Of course 2 fort is 2 fort and there were a bunch of engies at intel but these guys on voice chat were rooting for me to capture the intel. I got the intel and me and the guys helped me get there. It was lots of fun and really told me that I probably wasn’t gonna drop this game anytime soon.

I remember when i was 4 years old and i saw meet the medic for the first time , i was scared af when i saw ubered heavy and i stoper watching RU-vid for some time , 8 years later in 2021 RU-vid recommended me meet the medic again and i was like "damn this game looks fun" so i played it and now i am 15 and ubers are a godsend not jumpscare .

I'm surprised how little people started in offline practice. I made sure to be at least decent at hard difficulty before even touching casual. I spent 20-30 hours in offline practice just trying to get better so that I wouldn't be a useless teammate in an actual game.

“What kept you going even though you got eviscerated everyone on your first game?” “I saw a guy with a cool hat.”

“You can be the difference between them quitting or becoming a lifelong member of this community” I wish i quit early Tf2 is my least favorite game but i cant stop playing it

great vid! also, I love that u used half Is This It as soundtrack and 2 songs off The New Abnormal, love to see someone with good tase in music and games 🤝

Even though you're British I still enjoy your content. Keep it up man 👍

I remember when i first played tf2, i was playing engineer on dustbowl first, i was in the tunnel with my whole team trying to get through the last point, the one you get to from the stairs inside the first point shed, like i said i was playing engineer and i was repairing my sentry the whole time, without a dispenser, i had no metal, so i was just hitting my sentry with a wrench without metal for like 13 minutes, 4,000 hours later and i would like to say im better now, i would like

Still remeber the first time i played tf2. It was on 2fort as a enginer. I hade already been a fan for a year and watched hundreds of sfms and what realy made me want to play. Muselk

I got called a free to play freak once because I was being good at the game and I was new but I just said back “oh don’t cry it’s just a game”

Just Call TEAM FORTRESS 2! YOU LAZY!

if i can recall the only reason i ever decided to play tf2 is because i saw a yt video of a spy main playing heavy for a week and then the heavy looked cool so i wanted to become a heavy main (still am) the first map i played on was dustbowl (maybe?) i died to like so many spies lol it was unbelievable but then i started to slowly adapt (im still ass) then i learned the existence of pyro i now use him sometimes too with how little time ive played in tf2 ive honestly enjoyed all of it (besides the time i get killed by spies and snipers) im still tryna get better with heavy (one of the matches i was able to stomp and carry both rounds ending up top scoring 3 dominations and a kdr of 45/5 its still good in my book :D) idk why i typed all of this it just sounded cool

I remember my first time playing tf2. I had a hard time loading into, and running, the normal maps. I joined a server that had mario kart 2, which was way easier on my computer at the time. It was quite popular and people were always goofing around. I remember one time I was jumping as medic with the crossbow along the track and accidentally killed an invisible spy. The guy I killed said "ohhhh you lucky fucker" and I can still hear his voice so vividly till this day. Hope he's doing well :)

This has given me the confidence to play it as soon as I get an upgraded pc cause I can't play it without crashing in the fricken tutoriel

9:00 Oh Party Pug you're not gonna live till you're 90. I'm gonna make sure of it.

"Makes you feel gay as hell" Damn right brother 🏳‍🌈

I play tf2 to get better not because I want to have fun and skill but because I want every spy main to cry and never play again

Ive been playing tf2 and i have like around 100 hours. and its really fun to queue into a lobby and get my ass kicked :)

For me a f2p is a speedbump for me but i understand they know how to play the hard way

I only got into tf2 because my xbox live ran out on my xbox and thus no Garden warfare 2. I got destroyed. But not a single bot in site? Anyways I was good at it but me when no situational awareness. Tf2 got me into that and overall made me a much better gw2 player. (Ok but I hadn't played gw2 in over 6 months then when I cameback first match I top scored how the hell does one do that.) Garden warfare 2 goes strong even if there is no cosmetics or anything new for the past 5 years... I must stay loyal to my game and not abandon it. so yeah, sorry tf2ers.

You can be good without spending money and thats what i like about tf2

Don’t worry guys as long as I’m around there will always be a bad player

My first game was either Goldrush or 2Fort. Back in 2008 or 2009!

Man, I remember my first time playing this game. If I remember right it was good old 2Fort, I remember messing around as a Medic, clueless about the existance of a medigun, playing battle medic before I even knew what that was. I wasn't initially having fun at all, no no no, I was getting stomped, opposing team had a _really_ vocal and toxic player who really for some reason hated playing _against_ a bad player. After couple minutes round ended and I closed the game only to get a steam message from one of the players from that round who offered me to play with him. We went on some community servers, mostly empty minecraft trade ones, he helped me learn basics of the classes, helped me find the jump academy server to practice rocket and sticky jumping, helped me figure out how trading worked and generally was a good friend to have. And by the time Jungle Inferno rolled out I started playing on my own and the guy moved off to do his own things, different games, life, who knows. Now I'm nearing 3k hours spent in this game that I wouldn't of spent playing this game if not for a random player spending significant amount of time helping me get into this game and easing me in.

I started by playing with bots on the hardest difficulty with each class just to get an understanding of the game. Honestly, the curve from bots to online wasn’t too harsh (especially as heavy), but boy was I easy pickings for spies. Nowadays, no problem, just jump, rev, and turn around ;)

I tried to play TF2 3 times after a comment on a TF2 video about Bonk got a whole lot of traction and people kept telling me to play it. The first time, my computer exploded because it was half as old as I was. The second time it was about 2 am and there was nothing but bots Rolling me in near empty lobbies with a few real people as team mates. I tried to talk. The game wouldn’t let me. The final time was the next day. I got a whole bunch of real players in a weird mineshaft esk area where I proceeded to get torn to shreds by everyone in the lobby for 3 consecutive matches. Don’t even think I managed a single kill in the 40 or so minutes I played. Didn’t mention all the time I spent trying to fix controller settings because saying “Yeah no” and using the keyboard Didn’t get mad or anything but between three experiences that were atrocious for entirely different reasons. I have decided I will never play TF2 Again. I have no doubt the game was hot stuff back in the hay day, but now? After watching tf2 content for 2 years and finally playing the game? I can’t recommend it to anyone. It just wasn’t a good experience. I used to hear tf2 was the window to Pc gaming, but unfortunately that statement doesn’t seem to be true anymore.

I am a F2P that has just downloaded Tf2, in my first game a demo-man kept taunting me and my own team mates kept telling me to fuck off. At this point I feel like deleting steam as a whole, I’ve never felt so hated in my life. Does anyone have any advice? ☹️

you just prevented me from quitting tf2

I mean, I haven’t really been into first person shooters all that much before. But I am very familiar with the lore and the characters of tf2. Might pick it up alongside some hats and *KAZOTSKY KICK*

30 hours in I am having fun

9:35 Some of my own first memories with TF2 - around 2012 - were from goofing around in community servers with Minecraft maps like the one you show here. Good times.

My life finally has meaning

I've been playing for about a month now and everyone I meet is really understanding when iI ask questions or apologize for not recognizing something a more seasoned player would have caught on to :D i's really nice considering I spent a week before joining pub practicing solo just because I was nervous! I'd argue that Medic is the easiest to grasp mechanically , but only friendly to new players if there is already a Medic on the team. Otherwise you're trying to juggle healing and not dying on maps you've barely explored, thereby getting lost while your team is calling for you and only you lol

I remember my first TF2 experience like the back of my hand, I had some friends get me into it in 2014 and they brought me to an achievement server and got me all the classic free-to-play items (gibus, pyro vision, etc.) and told me they where the coolest hats in the game. Looking back I'm glad they gave me the true new player expirence, even if it was just them fucking with me, I wouldnt give up that memory for the world. Keep going new players, it only gets better from here

Still remember asking what Your Eternal Reward was because I wanted to craft the Spy-cicle. I was one hell of a dense kid lol. I put like 300 hours into Mario_Kart and a couple random Trade Servers. That was what like 12-13 years ago? Gave up on the game when they ruined it with the Competitive crap.

I fully understand that I was like them, I was same piece of shit and I absolutely was a F2P too.. And with all that understanding and accepting whenever we lose a game just because we have 3 snipers and 1 spy and Soldier who trying to kill with rocket jumper I just calmly back off my seat and scream in the pillow, window, my own head but not in the chat. I don't want them experience trash talk as I experienced while being f2p, but seriously, I hate when my team is bad but I can't do anything about it. And it's hard to communicate with them, neither they don't have mic, or their game crashing and laggin whenever someone use voice chat, or they simple don't know english. (or "Communication on this account is currently disabled" - Lovely Valve) F2P is a Coal with potential to become diamond.

Aahh yes, I remember my first game of TF2 (I started playing in late December of 2022) looking at the menu and choosing a game, the map was gold rush? I'm not really sure but I think I've heard it was the first map I played, and of course, I chose pyro, while mindlessly walking back and forth, but then, I chose the spy, and thought the sapper was to like electrocute people XD.

As somebody who’s been awful at TF2 for a near decade cuz I legitimately can’t figure out game sense and not panicking in 1v1s, I’m glad to know I’m important

Running out of bad players is one of the worst thing that can happen to a game, and Quake was the perfect example of this. I tried to get into Quake Champions when it came out, and I thought I was starting to get the hang of it when I was starting to learn how to strafe jump plus the experience I had on TF2, but it came to a point where every single match I was getting consisted on having my ass handled by veteran players who have probably been playing for decades and it just got too frustrating at that point. In the other hand, when I first started playing TF2, I sucked, but many other people did, so it was fun. Getting into TF2 nowadays, however, is not going to be as fun when casual lobbies are so often full of players with thousands of hours of experience that you'll be completely hopeless against, and luckily there are still enough new players and bad players so not every match will go that way, but this will become more of a problem as time goes on.

I basically never improved at tf2 ever. One reason why is that I never got past the hill every player goes over to change from bad to ok. Unlike everyone else, my hill was more of a giant border than anything else. I kept trying to get through and kept getting dominated by tryhards. I eventually got fed up and said screw it and ended up leaving tf2 as a terrible and bitter player. I'm sure I'll return again someday, probably not better tho

you know, i think being a bad player has affected me so deeply that now i feel afraid of playing multiplayer, and also i prefer pve games more also, i've been a tf2 "player" ever since i was 6. now im 15, but i have quitted many times so my skills never went up

I login TF2 every now and then just to pay my bit of keeping the game alive. I find it crazy new guys are still joining, even with the current chaos there is. TF2 is great when you play it enough, thank you newbies for pressing that download button.

I had souch fun losing everygame when i only had 200 hours and now i have 1300 and its hard to have fun at all. Evetygame i go against people with no jobs and 10k hours on sniper or pyro. I play demo and heavy.

I played a single match of tf2 last year, i think. And in there we were in a half jungle/half building map(?) And there were a few players but one by one they left. I (medic) was left with a single scout on my team and a pyro on the enemy team. Me and the scout played hide and seek with the pyro until we killed him and he left. The scout said "ah, there's no one left." I didn't know how to type in the chat so I just crouched and did a little yes motion with my head before sending him a "danke, dunkoff" and leaving It was so fun. I don't know how to add people or else i would have added him... i hope that scout is doing okay because i had fun with him