The Importance of Doctor Who's Cult of Skaro 

“They survive, they always survive, while I lose everything.” Poor doctor

The concept of having a small group of individual Dalek 'characters' cannot be understated. The only problem with the Cult of Skaro as far as I'm concerned is that they weren't around for long enough. Nicholas Briggs had a unique personality in mind for each individual member of the Cult and it's a shame that three of them died in the same story and the last one was unrecognisable in his concluding story - they had immense potential as a vessel for storytelling that I think the writers at the time squandered in favour of cheap finale/hype spectacle

It’s interesting that Daleks In Manhattan + Evolution Of The Daleks was originally meant to be a 3 part story. Overall I still love the story❤️

I actually liked this two-parter. It's not set in the finale, so it doesn't transfer too largely into the next episode, doesn't end on a cliffhanger. It was an interesting twist on the Dalek lore and new conflict for the Doctor to explore. I'd say these two episodes are needlessly underappreciated.

I love Dalek Sec. He is my favorite Dalek (Asides from the Dalek, in "Dalek" episode). And just love this quote "if you choose death and destruction, then death and destruction will choose you". It's been so many years since he became my favorite Dalek, and one of my favorites characters. Never understood why so many people hate Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks. :(

RIGHT! "Daleks In Manhatten" and "Evolution Of The Daleks" I've always thought phenomenally explored what it means to be a Dalek and challenges it in new ways to add more depth to the villains. People shouldn't overlook it cause it not an epic finale or..."Dalek".

I always loved these two episodes and was genuinely surprised that they were generally regarded as bad....

Dalek sec was arguably the smartest dalek. He was smart enough to realise the flaws in the daleks ideals and plans. “If we are supreme why are we not victorious”

Something I love about Sec is that even before the hybridization, he questioned the Dalek cause. Gaining human emotions certainly helped, yes, but he acknowledges that Daleks may very well not be the superior race. "If Daleks are superior, then why are we not victorious?"

Honestly, those episodes are some of my favorite Dalek episodes. Doesnt hurt that i also love the Human-Dalek Hybrid design used for Sec

I have a deep love for Martha’s characterisation and I think she is easily on par with the rest of the companions. I struggled to watch the Eleventh doctors series’ and stopped watching for years, but Amy was an excellent companion. Headstrong, stubborn, kind and clever, I cannot fault her character. I think these are all the traits found in Martha too. She was all of these things but I think being sandwiched between Rose, the companion that set the stage for useful, resourceful female sidekicks: and Donna, played by Catherine Tate, an already well loved U.K. personality and (relatively) fresh comedic/loving/less intelligent but even more stubborn take on the companion, Martha gets lost.

Honestly sans the dodgy accents there is nothing wrong with this story. Certainly not enough to reduce the writer to tears (that really happened)

Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks are actually one of my favourite Dalek stories, precisely because they’re *not* a finale and *not* focused on high stakes and drama, instead giving us space and moments to think about what the Daleks truly are. And I do really like it being set in the past, it makes it much easier for the setting to have a distinguishable atmosphere than stories set in the present day.

I like this two-parter, though I really wish the hybrids had survived.

I love the Daley’s In Manhattan two-parter! I swatched it the first time with my daughter years ago and was blown away by the depth of the story. I miss good old New Who. 😭💔💔

If the Dalek Sec hybrid would have survived,it could have ended all the pain and suffering of the daleks and a stop to all the hate and fighting. I like to think in an alternate universe,Dalek Sec survived and there is a planet full of peaceful hybrids.

“THIS IS NOT WAR! THIS IS PEST CONTROL!” Yes, I did look this up in order to get it right, why do you ask?

Sec should have destroyed the rest of the cult and shown his more destructive dalek side and have him as a companion who's unbridled rage can get the better of him. Also would have loved to have seen his interactions with the supreme dalek and davros.

The Cult of Skaro should've survived as recurring villains. Bringing the Daleks back properly ruined Journey's End. Imagine if every Dalek episode from this point onwards was just those four, keep up this illusion that a full empire Daleks are practically unbeatable.

Since the Cult of Siarro are trchnically time travelers, we could see them again, Sec is one of my favorite characters

I personally love the series 3 dalek 2 parter. Its different to to the normal dalek stories and sees the cults main task of exploring ways of survival explored.

6:06 That's not actually true. In Parting of the Ways, there were half a million daleks. In Doomsday there were, as the Doctor said, "millions".

I think Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks was good. One of the best in its series, actually.

8:40 Clara's theme starts playing, and I am like, "Aww, I love Clara!" Then I realized the connection between the Darleks and Clara, and started crying!!! That scene always gets me!!! "I AM NOT A DARLEK, I AM HUMAN!!!"

I mean there were 400,000 Daleks in the Season one finale, but a million plus four million cyber men. So the stakes were definitely raised.

I’ve always had a soft spot for this two parter. I love the setting and the daleks were great

Very well done essays! I really enjoyed watching them. Are you working on a part 4? Either way I'm looking forward to seeing what you create next!

It's too bad that the Daleks never encountered the _real_ Cybermen.

I dont remember the episode but rusty saying "you are a good dalek" to the doctor really had an impact on me.

These episodes are so underrated. I really like them.

You got a subscribe for #Justice4Martha. Glad I found your channel.

I watched like 3 videos (including this one) and I loved them all. Keep up the amazing work.

Daleks in Manhattan is probably my favourite dalek episode in New Who

great video, totally agree, underrated story :)

I always find that scene where the Dalek kills two cyber men, they are across the hall but teleport to the Dalek to fall. And I just found this channel but I have to say these videos are well made, keep it up man.

This Daleks in Manhattan is one of my favorite 2 Parters

Did they have the Doctor in close up shouting, "Daaaaaalek Khaaaaaan!!!!"?

I always get goosebumps in rtd era reveals the best being the cult of scaro in army of ghosts and the exterminate audio in stolen earth even when I knew the daleks would be there that moment is brilliant the fear in everyone even jack as the daleks voice echoes across the world it's the best reveal in doctor who history in my opinion

5:13 Eh I don't know I mean did you see how many cybermen they killed without losing a single dalek before they opened the ark

You deserve WAY more subs and views!

Very nice analysis. You deserve much higher view counts for these and more subs ;)

I actually like Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks. True, Tallulah was annoying, but the basic story was fine, certainly better than the rubbish Dalek stories in the Moffatt-era.

ok so.....here me out if the cyberman want to be upgraded or something like that what if the cyberman transformed the Daleks into a indestructible being and what if the Doctor got hold of that being like as a guardian or as a sentry for the tardis

Enjoyed you video thanks. I have always loved these episodes too

very well put!

I still feel like more could be done with Dalek/Cybermen war. Especially with the advent of a Death Particle.

I hope your videos get more views. They are brilliant.

Although, the Doctor, in the Time War's case, thought Gallifrey was destroyed and not just in a time pocket or something.

6:48 I remember in The Dalek Tapes documentary from the Genesis DVD, maybe Terrance or someone said it, but after the first Dalek stories all of them featured either companions leaving or dying and I feel like Rusty was echoing that here

🎶Spider-Pig, Spider-Pig, Does whatever a Spider-Pig does. Can he swing From a web? No he can't, He's a pig. Look oooouuuuutttttt Her comes the Spider-Pig."

Nicely done. You deserve more likes for it...

The five doctors in the classic series had daleks and cybermen, so this was not the first time

The only thing I don't like from the two-parter is because the pace kinda drags. A lot of running around without really moving forward. But Dalek Sec is *awesome*. The theme of race purity is also apt with the setting.

Dalek Sec's assimilation of a human and change in personality could be seen as a metaphor for Jesus. God in the Old Testament was consistently cold and unforgiving before becoming human and the Hebrews expected that once that happened, they'd get a ruthless strategist to lead them to salvation, but they instead got a merciful pacifist and as a result, turned on him like what the daleks did to Sec. They couldn't have a nice leader either.

i honestly adored these episodes and saw them as strong and plot heavy episodes

I cannot stop bingewatching this channel now that I've found it, not gonna lie #quarantinelyfe

Its like the Star Wars Prequels. On paper, these episodes should be great. Execution was a little wonky. Things could have been done to make these episodes live up to the caliber of the other Dalek episodes but it wasn’t a bad couple of episodes. Maybe this is just what its like when RTD doesn’t write a dalek two parter

Every time this guy says: ‘Dalek’ take a shot

I love Daleks in Manhatten and Evolution of the Daleks and the fact that they were written by a woman is amazing, however I feel its a shame Moffat never penned the stories, it would've been lovely to realise earlier on that Moffat and Dalek stories go just about as well as nails and a chalk board, perhaps some future mistakes, not naming any Asylums I mean names, could've been avoided

I so miss those days

To say that Daleks in Manhattan and Evolution of the Daleks were the weakest Dalek Story in the RTD era probably wouldn't be incorrect, but that doesn't mean they're a poor story, anything but.

Your videos are great. I love Doctor Who RU-vidrs like you and Samuel Davies. I could do with less Classic Who spoilers tho ;)

10:06 oh boy, just wait until this new season.

There weren't more Daleks in The Parting of the Ways, the Doctor says that 2,000 Daleks on board each of 200 ships is about half a million Daleks, whereas there were millions of Daleks in the Genesis Ark.

The main problem with DALEKS TAKE MANHATTAN is that DR.WHO never writes Americans accurately.

Oh yeah, the daleks killed people in the Davies era. People died. None of that everybody lives crap.

i'm rewatching Doctor Who and my next episodes are Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks.

Great video but a newspaper didn’t really ruin the reveal of the darleks in series 3 considering the episode literally has them in the title so if anything the show ruined the reveal

Just to note, there were only half a million Daleks in The Parting of The Ways.

I’m gonna be completely honest I’m not ashamed to say it, please respect my opinion DALEKS IN MANHATTAN AND EVOLUTION OF THE DALEKS ARE MY THIRD FAVOURITE DOCTOR WHO STORY AND MY SECOND FAVOURITE DALEK STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Youre so underrated

I would honestly have preferred if Rose Tyler had died, rather than just being stuck in a parallel universe; I love the tragic elements of the Time War and the Doctor (supposedly) being the Last Timelord. It gave a certain gravitas to his character, and in general I just find tragedies greatly underappreciated in modern media; It's not demoralizing at all, to see a beloved character enduring hardships and loss - on the contrary, seeing a fictional character deal with and overcome personal tragedies is incredibly inspiring, as it gives me hope that whatever adversity I face in my life, I too can persevere.

Personally, I really liked those episodes, I think they were some of the more interesting episodes featuring the Daleks.

it would be funny if the cult of scaros names were Dalek 1, dalek 2, dalek 3 and dalek 4 ahahah

7:16 perhaps that is why the Doctor has this aloof attitude towards Martha.

Helen should have been the writer to go on the work on the first female Doctor...

I’ve always believed that Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks is a very underrated story. I highly disagree with the popular opinion that it is a terrible story because it actually isn’t. If you can look past the bad accents, peculiar setting, green screens and campiness it’s actually a very good story once you understand it’s purpose and meaning. The most important character to this story isn’t the Doctor or Martha it’s Dalek Sec and his gradual transformation of humanity. Each scene we see him he becomes more and more human and also the wiser he becomes. Dalek sec is arguably the most intelligent and wisest Dalek to have ever lived, by embracing his emotions and defying the philosophy of his creator he realised that the Daleks were always destined for extinction because of their obsessive need for Purity. He is so desperate to teach his old comrades that they must change their old ways if they hope to survive but The Daleks cannot let go of their purity and Facias ideologies to the point where they even betray their old friend and demoralise him keeping him a reminder of shame. The doctor is even heartbroken and furious at the death of Sec because it was the first time that his greatest enemy became his best ally and the closest he came to saving the Dalek race without killing them. I wish that Sec had stayed as a temporary companion with the doctor finding a new planet 🌎 to inhabit and populate but obviously this didn’t happen. Props to the actor Eric Loren for giving a fantastic performance as both Mr. Diageross and Sec (I at first thought that were two different actors) he does a really good job at conveying a Dalek with emotions. Overall I give the story an 8/10. The final confrontation with Dalek Caan at the end is also beautiful because it shows that the doctor despite all the murder and destruction is willing to save his oldest enemy from extinction because he has seen too much death and destruction over the centuries. I also feel the story is a nice call back to evil of the Daleks while still managing to be it’s own unique story. Ofc ppl will disagree with me and that’s okay to each their own as they say xx

There are so many episodes I didn't realize people hated. Like yeah not every episode is a banger but why do some people even watch the show if they hate so many good ones too lol

Is part 2 deleted? Can't find it :(

I love Dalek Caan. Dalek Sec is great too but his development was mainly a result of him turning into a human hybrid. Caan was still 100% Dalek when he had his change of heart. He's actually the only Dalek apart from Rusty who turned on his race without needing to be part human.

Why’d you have to put that damn Doomsday theme in there? Why? Why?

Take a shot every time he says "Daleks."

Daleks In Manhattan/Evolution Of The Daleks are far from great but they can't be considered the worst when Victory Of The Daleks and Into The Dalek exist lmao

Daleks are too pure to exist in real world.

What was this? 0:11

sick

It crazy im listening to you but seeing them flying over London i can hear the dalek them

I feel sorry for Dalek sec

The Cult of Skaro were wasted. I've written a Dalek story in the style of a nazi experiment type thing. It's a great idea from Russel.

I’m gonna be hated for this but I’d rather Steven Moffat wrote the dalek story than write blink. I’d like to see what he would’ve done

In theory, this two parter is brilliant. But I think that the execution was poor.

What a smashing video. Thanks Ant p uk Teacher

The stupid ending ruined it for me with DNA somehow being transferred by electricity WTF? Pig people kinda sucked too. But yeh thematically they were good episodes

nah why did you have to use the doomsday music though, pure triggering

The one criticism I have of "Daleks take manhattan" is they should have set it in the 1930 instead of the 1920.

Great vid, definitely earnt a subscriber from me! #Justice4Martha

Why do you hate Moffet so much?

Ohai Rose again. Ohai Martha. Ohai daleks. Ohai cybermen.

Evil of The Daleks is superior to Evolution of The Daleks.

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