The Impossible Camera & The Impossible Cam-Room Heist | Random PAYDAY2 Facts, Episode 7 

Hahaha fair point! Not quite a regular SR run considering that, 4 hours in, I haven't secured a single bag!

My average shadow raid time after taking a break from payday for a year

@@fusrosandvich3738 Hahaha! Good one :D 10/10

​@@Marcmbbut really tho, do you remember why you were heisting for 4 hoyrs straight?

Haha absolutely! Top 10 example of PAYDAY2 whack logic :D

*diesel engine*

@@resudog858 Diesel has little to do with it, it's more about how it's coded

@@MyUsersDark was making a joke

@@MyUsersDark When the When the joke The joke is Is missed

Excellent guess, Graknorke! Got it down almost perfectly, 9.9/10 :D

yeah i am still thinking about the point of staying that much time in this heist

Haha! Let's say it was a long night... That actually makes me wonder if the heist timer can reach insane numbers like 3 or 4 digits on the hours. That would look nice!

@@Marcmb i think it can but It's better to check IT right?

@@MrSalixus Someone will have to check it now, that's for sure!

That sounds interesting! Being able to destroy the recordings (rather than always taking out the operator or avoiding cams) would add some variety to PAYDAY too...

There is a heist in Payday 2 with multiple camera operators as well. Basically all it does is require you take out two guards to disable cameras.

That's actually what happens on The Diamond, so it was a solid guess! Hope you enjoyed the reveal :p And 4+ hours yup! That was a long night...

@@Marcmb i hope we get some sniper buff to kill cam guy without pager, i don't like to use silent assassin mode but i also want to use sniper in stealths. They need to bring some essencial kills on stealth maps too so we can actually use some damage weapons. They need to bring like assassination the target to progress stealth or smt like that idk. I would be like the guy with sniper on the roof while stealth mission

@@birkasecorba7649 You can actually do that in some heists like Border Crossing or Big Oil! I don't think they would implement it to remove pagers (because it would be very strong, getting rid of cameras for free) but it does work on some heists which is nice :D

Probably went AFK for that amount of time just to confuse us even more during the puzzle quiz ahah

I still wonder 🤔

I still wonder 🤔

Hahaha! Excellent question Trunks. It's just as *@The1AndOnlyLegoAlex* guessed: I was thinking of ways to make it more "confusing", or add some red herrings, and a long heist timer felt like a good idea :D Glad you liked the trick! :)

@@Marcmb bro, I could be finishing many Hotline Miami runs in that timespan 💀

That would've made a lot of sense in this scenario yup! Kinda funky at the end, when the camera operator walked in front of the camera, and the cams started beeping :p

I'm really looking forward to PAYDAY 3 as well, yeah! It's gonna be amazing I feel: all this time playing PAYDAY 2, and now we'll have a sequel with even more content! I do expect many of my findings to be patched there though haha :D

Haha nice! Glad the algorithm brought you here Tan, and glad you're liking the videos! If you ever feel like heisting again, it's always a good time to reinstall the game for a bit :)

Thank you very much Jaeger! Glad you're enjoying the videos, I appreciate it a lot :D

Thanks so much for the nice words! Glad I could show you a small new thing, even as a very experienced heister :D The loud drill trick is excellent for Train Heist yup, one of the best applications. Also Big Bank as you say: when you get the roof door _away from the manager's office,_ and also on the manager's safe. So useful!

@@Marcmb And one more thing - please, don’t drop “Best heists for solo infamy farming” thematic, keep working in this rubric!) It’s very useful for me and new players, very interesting to watch! Be safe and keep inspired for making PD2 content!)

@@user-ni4tu3ot4f Absolutely! Glad you're enjoying those videos :D I have another one coming in a couple of weeks, very very soon!

@@Marcmb I'm a bit confused by what you both mean. Got a link to a video? Been a long while since i played but thought they called in if they found a drill.

Thanks TheUnbanned! Glad you liked the transition :p

:D Thank you very much, ijlj! Glad you liked it :D

Haha thank you PcGameplay! Glad you liked those details :) I always feel like it's a waste to show the entire thing for long interactions, so I do my best to cut those out, whenever they add nothing to the scene :D

:D Thanks a lot for the very kind words, FairNut!

Hahah! Glad you liked this one Alex. I had the exact same question as you a few times in the past, and when I finally thought about this, I really wanted to make a video about it. Glad that someone else was thinking about the same things :D Certainly one of the greatest stealth heists, absolutely agreed!

@Marcmb Yea I'm honestly very intrigued by how OVK decides which walls you can interact through and which you cannot cuz with Shadow Raid esp there are many "cheat" spots so why is the cam room any different hmmm the answer is prob very simple but I don't have the programming experience

@@LegoAlex99 Very true yup. It's likely something very simple like a flag that allows or prevents interactions to go through it (and they enabled it for that wall in particular, is my guess). This combined with some items that can only be looted from the front, probably leads to the system that we have. There is actually a player-made mod that completely removes ALL interactions through walls, although it's not my cup of tea :D

That is true yup! You need to loop the camera in front of the Security Room, which became possible a few patches ago when they brought that camera closer to the ground.

Good question DramaticDetective! I haver a better video explaining that in detail, called "PSA: The Drill Exploit". That video also has many examples but basically there's no '!' just from the noise: it's only when they see it!

:D Thanks so much Bartosz, I appreciate it!

Much appreciated Jang, thank you! Glad you liked the trick :D

Thanks a lot Joey, much appreciated! Glad you liked this one :D

Thank you very much, AssassinSpy! Glad you liked that :)

It really depends on how fast-paced you want it to be, yup! The patient approach (allowing some of them to live) works really well because there's a chance they become stationary by themselves, skipping the pagers and guaranteeing you get the 2 KCs you need for the vault. The bloodthirsty approach is good for speed too, especially because if you kill them all, you don't even have to worry about hiding their corpses!

You can still go for speed without needing to kill guards + doesn't shadowraid have an exp cap depending on X amount of bags which is different depending if you grab armour or not?

@@Metal_Invitine You can _absolutely_ go for speed even without killing any guards, of course! In fact, if you manage to go at full speed on a "pacifist" run, you'll save a whole 30s simply by not answering the pagers. The thing is that the speed you gain by freely throwing bags around, always taking the shortest path possible, sprinting carelessly, killing the orange civ at his spawn location at the start before he can roam away (regardless of how many guards are around him), etc., often outweighs the time spent answering pagers, meaning that kills lead to more speed. As for the XP, there's a measly 500 XP per bag, a big bonus of +6,000 for securing the armor, and no XP beyond 16 bags (but really you should stop at 12 for XP efficiency).

Personally, I don't play stealth for rushing in the context you use it. I play stealth to rush stealth with set in place strats I've developed over the past few years with backup plans in case of certain guard spawns. Usually I just go straight for cams then clear upstairs via the box hiding spot, then chuck everything off the balcony for the 1st round of looting, then afterwards i use thermite + check basement coke spawn and from there it's just looting inner warehouse/ downstairs then the 4 money outside and if done right I should consistently have 1~3 pagers to spare depending on guards. I get that removing guards technically could be a safer option if you're not well versed in clearing upstairs with no hassles as if you don't force artifact, which I never do, upstairs becomes a pain with the 4 extra guards. However it leads into other issues as, you don't have a backup plan other than ECMs if you alert a 5th guard especially if you haven't looted close to 12 bags yet. Personally with my experiences on Shadow Raid and other stealth only maps, there is something inherently fun and rewarding for completing maps either guard pacifist or with precise movement rushing through without alerting anyone, that is very hard to describe why it's possibly more enjoyable than slow patience driven stealth and 4 man ECM rushing. I'm kind've biased against ECM rushing, nothing against the people who enjoy it or create stuff around it bit there's this indescribable aura I get, it's extremely hard to explain it without it sounding really off and wrong. Basically overtime it has grown to such a level where it seems that the theoretical "bar" for skill or technological knowledge gets to this height that downplays or unintentionally makes non ECM rush stealth seem as if it doesn't have the same or a different "bar" that it hasn't reached yet. It's really hard to describe it but in simple terms ECM rushers give off this unintentional dread that makes everything surrounding it that is also stealth (speed stealth) seem less fundamentally and technologically advanced and to be able to be torn apart as much as ECM rushing. Simply put, ECM rushing put an unintentional cover look on regular stealth and speed stealth that greatly undermines it's potential.

@@Metal_Invitine Hmm I see where the misunderstanding comes from I think! It's hard to explain in just words but I might upload a video of my strategy in the future, just to showcase something different. It seems we both rush for speed, but for very different reasons! Basically for me it's not really about safety it's more about just speed - my runs are optimized for XP efficiency (because that's what I enjoy doing!) so I never even bother with things like the thermite, the helicopter block... because by the ~5 minute mark I'm already leaving, with all the armor and just enough loot to trigger the escape! So for example I never bother with the money outside either, because at 500 base XP each it's just not worth my time :D As for the final reflection on ECM rushing vs. speedy stealth, I agree that they are completely different, but I can see how some heisters would sometimes confuse the two, especially when there are so many 4-man crews out there that excel at neither and just mix the two!

Hahaha! Glad you liked that scene BraveHero, thank you :)

@@Marcmb I actually watch your content quite a bit in recent days, just pulled a KKnowley and reset my account to get back into the game the other day. Didn't wanna go into a hoxton breakout with my old build running around like a loud normal jewelry store.

@@braveherogreenleaf6256 I appreciate that, thank you! I also recently did a progress restart to go back to Level 0 Infamy 0, and the first few heists feel amazing :D

:D Thanks Siu! The game is quite old indeed. Glad I could show you a small new thing! :p

Haha! Based on the contents of this video we can safely assume that _at least some of them_ do, for sure :D

Aah nice! Once you have some experience with loud drills, it becomes easier to see their applications :p Well guessed, Fox!

Hey Killer! Excellent suggestions. I actually have a video about stealth weapons coming out in about 2 weeks, so look forward to that one! The video for Yakuza will be coming next: a video with everything about Yakuza (similar to what I did for Hacker) which should be ready around March. Finally, the guides for the Impossible stealth heists are in my to-do list as well, although I want to finish the guides for the "intended" stealth heists first! For now, the next one will be for the Garnet Diamond heist...

@@Marcmb maybe once you’re done with all that or you just want to take a break. Custom heists or heist edits are another idea. Recently got Ukrainian Job+ from the mod workshop, I got 87 bags from that, including a balcony behind the store, a garbage truck added from the modder, the apartment, and the roof of the store. Shadow Raid+ just crashed my game when I loaded it

@@killertheinfiltrator I do have plans to play some custom heists as well, yup! Probably after finishing all that, as you said so yourself :D

Thank you very much elbard! Glad you liked that aspect of the video, much appreciated :)

Hi Skyler! That is a good suggestion, especially if you can wait until some roamers become stationary. I personally prefer the opposite though: I start the heist by quickly rushing in, to kill the orange civ while he's at the stairs in front of the vault (basically always at the start of the heist), which saves time on every run!

@@Marcmb Slow and steady is my race, but I only do this with the saw as beserker is not too useful with hacker.

Oooh nice! Your custom map concepts always sound very interesting. I remember you mentioned something in the past, about a custom heist designed around the saw (which broke a little bit when the fully silent saw trick was discovered)... The best part of such a concept for a custom heist, is that you could actually lure him back and forth as needed, if you had access to more loud drills! :D

Aww that's so neat, but such a shame! I never tried during my early heisting days, so I never saw this :(

Haha nice! This riddle was trickier than usual, that's true! I was worried that the dropped gun at 1:23 would give it away, because it's not in the position you would expect it to fall from the usual camera operator!

He's definitely a coke enjoyer yup because he fell for it completely!

Thank you very much Jeckistic! Glad you and your friends are enjoying these videos :D I have plans to make an updated stealth build video soon, although I'm not exactly sure about the date (I want to make another solo farming video, then new heist on the 22nd...) but it should be ready soon. It will focus on build order as you level up, and explain all the variations depending on what you want to focus on!

Oooh that would have been a very interesting guess dishragnoz! Especially since a similar thing happens on The Diamond :D Hope you liked the real explanation at the end of the video! It was very heavy misdirection :p

Absolutely yup! And most of the time it's not even worth it for the XP either. It's mostly a fancy trick for those who play Shadow Raid for fun, going for max loot even though it's really inefficient :D

:D Glad you liked this style of video Tarramas. Thank you!

:D Thanks James! Hope you liked that :p

Clarification, The rooms are segmented even if there are no doors. Cam room, Small corridor, Upper Loot room. Staircase, Lower loot room

I believe you are 100% correct Albert, yup! In fact, Jav (an experienced modder / custom heist maker) explained this to me after watching this video: apparently the spots where he stops are NAVIGATION SPLITTERS (you can see them through the BeardLib editor and they match 100%), which are invisible boundaries added to define "rooms" within the pathfinding system. I'm not sure exactly how those play a role in the pathfinding systems, but it's just as you say: he keeps walking following his path until he reaches one of these navigation splitters, then re-evaluates, and then notices that his objective has disappeared, thus stopping in place :D

@@Marcmb My guess as to how they aid in it is to help them not phase through walls and floors. If the game sees that two rooms aren't connected it needs to see what rooms are and thereby forcing them to take the correct route, this is why the times you see an enemy walk through a wall it is because they are connected either by a door or by a climbing spot (such as on hoxton breakout where dozers can phase through the wall before ascending) I would say it could be worth testing opening the drilling door as he enters the room to see where he end up

@@albertlofling7310 Oooh that makes a lot of sense, of course! I'm not familiar with pathfinding algorithms in a general context, but it makes a lot of sense to check for connections and build a step-wise path. That's most certainly what those navigation splitters are doing, I'm pretty sure! As for disabling the drill when there are no more navigation splitters inbetween, in my experience the guard just continues walking until he arrives at the spot where the drill used to be!

@@Marcmb does he get stuck there or does he return?

Thanks DerpiestDerp, glad you liked it! I actually already have a video on that topic, except I don't like the word "Suppressing" (has too many letters) so I just titled it "Intimidating guards in stealth". You can find it here! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TcXb6031aYw.html

@@Marcmb thank you!

@@derpiestderp325 You're welcome! Enjoy, and hopefully that video clears up some of those mechanics :D

Glad you liked it, HolyRain! Definitely not very practical, especially considering those 2 bags are only worth 500 base XP each :p But it might be useful for some heisters going for all loot, for the challenge! Even then still not very useful, but as you say it will be fun to experiment with these things when PAYDAY 3 comes out!

Hey Pandza! Great to hear the tutorials have been helping, thank you! There are many different HUDs so, after checking a few, you will most likely end up choosing based on personal preference. If you're wondering about mine, it's PocoHUD3, and you can find some download links and install instructions in my modding video, which is in the description. Hope this helps! :D

Hahaha! That would be a reasonable explanation yup. Considering all the tech they have hidden under the White House, this wouldn't surprise me!

Good question Sinnamon! You could indeed suppress him yup, there is nothing preventing it right there. However I didn't explain much in detail of that situation, because it's a bit easier to just let him move forward a bit more before removing the loud drill haha :D

Excellent guess Idio, well done!

@@Marcmb does this mean I’m unbanned from the Discord?

@@Idio No! :shock

@@Marcmb why not??? :steamsad: I'm so nice and cool

@@Idio :( Because you were already unbanned once, and within 24 hours you were already being disrespectful again...

Hahaha! I was a bit lost while planning my next move, so the timer ended up being a bit longer than anticipated, and then I just made it _even longer_ as some sort of red herring :D

Haha understandable! There are many different topics mixed into this video, so I can see why that would happen :p Hope you enjoyed it though!

Hey Snek! Good choice of content while waiting for an install :p As for your question, the guard will become stuck because he has no way to reach the drill he's hearing, and he will not move even after you open the door!

Hahah! Never doubt yourself!! That was very very good for a blind guess :p 10/10! And as you know now that you've seen it, the 4-hour heist timer was a red herring, hoping to distract from the simplest explanation :D

Haha pretty much! I actually have a video coming up in the future, about Schrödinger's ''something''! Someday :p

PAYDAY 2 logic has no limits, for sure!

Hey Gabriel! It certainly works "as intended" yup, it's just an edge case that appears with these unusual AP weapons :D

Thanks a lot thebass, glad you liked this one! :D It's hard to say exactly how much time I need for one video. I have a long list of ideas still written down, so thankfully that doesn't take any time. I do the scripting in advance for future videos during my free time, then when one video has the script ready I record gameplay during the evenings, and do most of the editing during the weekends. All things included it's about one week per video, although sometimes I run out of time and I upload easier videos, such as my "Daily Dose" series or things like that!

:D Thanks MJ, glad you liked that! I love all of these things as well :)

Still 10/10 for sure yup :p Glad you liked this one, Snek!

Hey Thomas! On my channel you can find an in-depth guide for everything about Shadow Raid stealth. I recommend either the zipline on the docks, or the dumpster in front of the warehouse. My video has example runs for both situations so you can pick whichever you like more!

You're absolutely welcome, whatdaf! Glad you were able to learn something useful, even if it's a small thing :)

Glad you liked that other one aleh! This is a good point that you can use either one, depending on what you're going for :D

Hey Lucas! Thanks for the nice words, and I'm glad you're enjoying these types of videos for PAYDAY 2 (and soon 3) :) Regarding your question, those blue lines for base XP triggers are similar to what you get from other mods like XP Notifier ( modworkshop.net/mod/28247 ), which are easier to install and use. This one with the blue text is not available on any mod website (as far as I know), but you can find it here on Steam, which I assume is the same 2016 post that you mentioned: it's a custom mod written by Frankelstner (the author of The Long Guide), with instructions on how to set it up: steamcommunity.com/groups/pd2mech/discussions/0/357286119110558745/ If you tried installing it as explained here, but it didn't work, here are some brief install instructions: (1) In your /mods/ folder, create a new folder called 'Custom XP Notifier'. (2) Inside, create the the 'mod.txt' and 'xptracker.lua' files, with the content given in the 2016 post. To create the lua file simply save it as a .txt, but then rename it to .lua. (3) Finally: - Make sure that your 'mod.txt' file is not actually 'mod.txt.txt'. - Make sure that your 'xptracker.lua' file is not actually 'xptracker.lua.txt' And the mod should now work!

@@Marcmb It's working ! I've simply didn't understood on the Steam page that the mod.txt file should be with the .lua file in the same folder :D Thank you for your explainations ! I can't wait for the Payday 3 release and all the future technicial videos you will be able to make :)

@@17lva24 Awesome! Glad I was able to help set it up :) I'm also really looking forward to PAYDAY 3. I'm gonna make lots of videos about it! :D

Thank you very much Dr Tane! :D

Haha! I was waiting for a guard to come to a location where I could lure him into the security room, for the whole setup :(

@@Marcmb now THATS some dedication for a 10 minute random fact video, Golly. Just found your channel not too long ago after coming back to the game, you’ve got some great tips man amazing videos

I did at the end that's true! But at the beginning the window is still there, as you can see at around 1:21! :p

:D Nice! It is indeed a very powerful technique. Once you become familiarized with the trick, some situations like this one here are very easy to recognize at first sight!

Hey Arment! That's PocoHUD3 :) In the video description you can find my modding video, which shows my mods, install instructions, and download links!

Answer: damn that's a bit more complicated than I thought 😂

:D Hope you enjoyed the twist, TheUnbanned!

@@Marcmb Perfect Marcmb Payday 2 video! 😄

@@theunbanned4553 :D That's great to hear! Thank you :p

Sounds like a new strategy for the fastest infamy farming :clueless:

Hey joaquin! Unfortunately it's all random... provided you don't open the balcony doors, they will simply get stuck as soon as they try to walk to the balcony waypoints, which can literally take from 0s to almost infinite seconds.

@@Marcmb thanks marc! Yeah i was expecting it to be random, thx for help anyways

@@joaquin4491 Glad I could clear that up! You're welcome :)

That would be an interesting guess Jupo! There might be some mods to turn the camera guard into a civilian for this heist - who knows! :D

@@Marcmb nvm mixed up with election day 2

@@jupo672 Aaah no worries, I see! You are correct yup, on ED DAY2, the camera operator is indeed a regular civilian :)

That would make sense, true, considering the camera guard would technically still be alive! (at least for a while) Thankfully the devs programmed it properly, so that is not an issue :D

@@Marcmb it may have also been an old version thing i'm thinking of. i remember spending a lot of time on this map with a friend when it was new but.... that was a while ago lol. it's entirely possible i'm misremembering.

@@edkennen9672 Ooh it might have been a thing in the past yeah, who knows... I played the heist a lot back in the day, but I don't remember much anymore :D

Hey well! Which timer do you mean, do you have a timestamp perhaps? Sorry I don't fully understand!

The heist timer. Idk am i blind or it realy was frozen.

@@wellinthatcasethatsucks Oooh! You might have been confused because your eyes expected MINUTES::SECONDS, but it's actually HOURS::MINUTES::SECONDS because I've been there for so long. The timer is definitely moving! :D

Hey danser! To clarify, you are supposed to stand on the helipad when the helicopter is about to spawn, which blocks the possibility of more Murkies being dropped. No chance to restart whatsoever!

@@Marcmb Thanks, I learned it yesterday. I was skeptical because not all games work like that, most of the time you can't block an event or you can but you die to make room for that event.

@@danser_theplayer01 No worries! I learnt about this from The Long Guide because the author shared the information a long time ago (from the source code), and I've been _abusing_ it ever since :)

Hey geronimo! You definitely kill the civilian of course, for the guaranteed keycard! However, ideally you would not kill the camera operator (because killing all 4 roamers gives you complete freedom inside the warehouse -- much better than killing cams), which will still give you enough keycards in most runs, because of their random KC drops!

Hey Seaweedy! It takes the usual 10s but I edit it to make it look shorter, because nothing is gained from looking at a 10s interaction other than making the video longer :p

Hey sni3zka! I recently uploaded a video showing my shotgun (Locomotive 12G), and all its weapon attachments. You can find it right here! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UsSTQep5erU.html

Hey Antonio! The sections where I answer a pager are sped up to make the videos less "boring" - since nothing happens during those 10s. There's no way to speed up the interaction :(

@@Marcmb I’m on console we need updates overkill left us 😭

That is correct yup haha! I was using a weapon with Wall Penetration capabilities. I have a recent video with the "TOP 5 Stealth Weapons" where that mechanic is shown in more detail :D

@@Marcmb so is it like a special ammunition cause I should try it

@@Luphor Mostly it's because of the weapon, like the R93 Sniper Rifle, or the 5/7 Pistol. Any shotgun equipped with AP Slugs will also have this behavior, but that's not as good...

Hey Just_account! Those effects are all being displayed by my HUD, which is PocoHUD. In the description you can find my MODDING VIDEO, which has install instructions, and download links. Hope this helps! :D

@@Marcmb back after watching it Thank you sooo much!

Hey No1! Regarding the songs, the one that plays for the last 2 minutes or so is "Change of Pace". The final one, which plays only for the last ~20s, is "They Chose Vlad". Both by Simon Viklund!

@@Marcmb thank you! it's really catchy

@@no1normal750 Enjoy :D one of my favorites for sure!

:D Glad you enjoyed the magic and misdirections, Oka!

Hey Lost Kostin! Those blue lines on the top-left are for base XP triggers. They are being displayed by a mod similar to XP Notifier ( modworkshop.net/mod/28247 ), but instead of showing "real XP", it shows "Base XP", which is often better. With that said, I believe this one with the blue text is not available on any mod website (as far as I know), so it's not on modworkshop, but you can find it here: it's a custom mod written by Frankelstner (the author of The Long Guide), with instructions on how to set it up: steamcommunity.com/groups/pd2mech/discussions/0/357286119110558745/

@@Marcmb Thanks!

@@lostkostin You're welcome! Glad I could clear that up :)

Haha! I was thinking for quite a while about how to lure a guard in there, with a coke drop that they would see when coming up from the stairs (the range is just barely not enough). Plus the extra time made for a good red herring, so I just kept that in! :p

Hey Pogchamp! I actually have a video coming up that will explain all the options. The weapon I used here is the Grom (Sniper Rifle, which has wall penetration by default) but the 5/7 is a Pistol and will work as well.

@@Marcmb Well certainly cant wait for your next video! Do you planning on making The skyscraper heist as well?

@@Pogchamp786 Thank you! Hopefully the latest video helped, that's the one featuring wall penetration and other nice stealth weapons :) I do have plans to cover the Skyscraper heist among others, at some point in the future, perhaps if I can do a livestream someday!

Hey demonstrate! I was using the 5/7, a pistol with wall penetration. For more details, you can check my video about stealth weapons here! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1vTbyuyItRg.html

@@Marcmb are any of them on console i see the AP slugs but i don’t think the other 2 guns are

Hey Hưng! That could be a very interesting challenge yup. Although it would be a lot easier when no loot spawns inside the camera room, so the challenge would likely be avoided like that... :(

That's quite a unique guess Felrin! Hypothetically that might solve the problem yup. Although it makes you wonder why the corpse inside the camera room didn't count, since he's very close to the original position! :D

Pog !

Hey lumaness! I was using the 5/7, a pistol with wall penetration. For more details, you can check my video about stealth weapons here! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1vTbyuyItRg.html

@@Marcmb THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

Haha yup! That was a long night :p

Hey Helpme! It's all being displayed by my HUD mod (PocoHUD). In the video description, you can find a link to my modding video, with download links and install instructions. Hope this helps!

@@Marcmb thanks

@@howoftendoyalleat Happy to help :)

Hey ZeroEquis! It's in the description :D Hope this helps!

:D Good comment! 👍

:D Hello again Doc, thanks for dropping by!!