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The incredibly ornate yet *very* mysterious dragon gun, with Assistant Curator Thomas Davies 

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This Burmese bronze gun cast in the form of a dragon is one of the most intriguing objects in our collection at Fort Nelson, not only because of its ornate design but for the mystery that enshrouds it.
In this episode our Assistant Curator of Artillery, Thomas Davies, shares his quest of the origins of the gun, what it might have been used for and what its dragon design might symbolise.
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@Hugh-S
@Hugh-S 3 месяца назад
Incredibly interesting, clearly enthusiastic, infectious attitude. More of Thomas!
@RoyalArmouries
@RoyalArmouries 3 месяца назад
Don't worry, we intend to.
@GMT439
@GMT439 3 месяца назад
@@RoyalArmouries Do you by chance have and proof at all of the CLAIMS made in this Video?
@shootmcrunfast
@shootmcrunfast 3 месяца назад
@@GMT439 Clearly you have an agenda here, maybe you should say what points you think are not accurate so they can be addressed. However, I suspect you do not actually care and are just being an awful person.
@shootmcrunfast
@shootmcrunfast 3 месяца назад
Definately more of Thomas, fascinating subject as well.
@Hugh-S
@Hugh-S 3 месяца назад
Nice try. @@GMT439
@postmandnb
@postmandnb 3 месяца назад
Yay Jonathan found someone willing to talk about an awesome item in the collection. Great presentation from Thomas. Hope Thomas finds the cannon maker and finishes his quest.
@azkrouzreimertz9784
@azkrouzreimertz9784 3 месяца назад
I really like this presenter, he got good energy and obviously passionate about the subject. Hope i see him again❤
@RoyalArmouries
@RoyalArmouries 3 месяца назад
Don't worry, you will
@J1mston
@J1mston 3 месяца назад
I saw this in person last year. I was in Fort Nelson during the Falklands War exhibition. This cannon is one of many that really stops you in your tracks and has you staring. Such fine craftsmanship. I should add that Thomas is brilliant behind the camera, a natural.
@ThunderChunky101
@ThunderChunky101 3 месяца назад
It's a stunning piece. Really.
@jackzed2020
@jackzed2020 3 месяца назад
​@@ThunderChunky101 the guy or weapon?
@ThunderChunky101
@ThunderChunky101 3 месяца назад
@@jackzed2020 Wot
@P_i_l_s_o
@P_i_l_s_o 3 месяца назад
I would say in front of the camera. He's too brilliant of a presenter to be behind a camera.
@FerventRebutter
@FerventRebutter 3 месяца назад
Thomas has great presence in front of the camera. Hope we see more of him. Edit: sneaky, inconspicuous alteration.
@pedrorehm
@pedrorehm 3 месяца назад
Absolutely loving his energy and excitement on the matter
@ThunderChunky101
@ThunderChunky101 3 месяца назад
He's basically immediately hit RU-vid with the quintessential TV voice. Dude needs a TV job.
@jameshealy4594
@jameshealy4594 3 месяца назад
I believe you mean in front of the camera, behind usually means off-screen? I agree it was a great job.
@FerventRebutter
@FerventRebutter 3 месяца назад
@@jameshealy4594 Huh, you're absolutely right!
@mattheweagles5123
@mattheweagles5123 3 месяца назад
Unrelated to the gun, the cafe at Fort Nelson is very good.
@RoyalArmouries
@RoyalArmouries 3 месяца назад
Top comment
@ThunderChunky101
@ThunderChunky101 3 месяца назад
Is this Tom Scott's little brother?! 😂 Bloody practiced TV voice, sounds like I'm watching a BBC history show. Great enthusiasm.
@LiveDonkeyDeadLion
@LiveDonkeyDeadLion 3 месяца назад
I’ve been asking and asking for this video! Thank you everyone, I always make sure I drop by to look at it (and the matching musket) when I visit Fort Nelson I feel like all that volunteer work in the ACF cleaning up the fort has paid off. (I also had a very minor role in recovering one of the cannons being restored)
@Valkanna.Nublet
@Valkanna.Nublet 3 месяца назад
"It looks a little bit ornate." Master of understatement :D
@ThunderChunky101
@ThunderChunky101 3 месяца назад
Right? No way anyone ever fired that! It's stunning. Has to be priceless. Imagine it at auction!
@sski
@sski 3 месяца назад
Very cool piece! Leave it to the Asian sphere to create such an ornate yet functional piece of kit. What I really enjoyed was Thomas. While I like Johnathan's presentations, it was refreshing to witness Thomas' presentation of this cannon. He speaks clearly at a good volume, imparting all the information he has access to while querying the audience for their involvement for further information as there is as lack of historical account. That's good use of informational access now that we have the internet. I like Thomas. Use him in videos more often, please.
@Choscura
@Choscura 3 месяца назад
So there was a Burmese military campaign into the then-Lanna kingdom of what's now northern thailand, and a number of major cities were captured for a generation or two, and then recaptured by the Thai/Siamese people later. The city walls in this region have a particular set of features- they're usually initially mud brick, updated later with fired ceramic stoneware brick, they're all solar aligned- if not perfect polar alignment, there is at least a coherent square city structure, generally about a mile on a side, with a wall inside and a moat outside, and a more-or-less freely unplanned city inside the walled curtain area with some central administrative functions, government and religious buildings, at the exact center. The walls themselves vary in construction, but the are noteworthy for including ramparts for infantry and emplacements for artillery, not having arched gateways that allow traversal of the wall across gates (in other words, you go down off the wall, cross the street, and go up the other wall on the other side of the gate, at every gate, in theory), and the cities almost always have an internal fresh water source within this curtain wall. It seems likely to me that this gun could originate in northern Siam/ in the Lanna kingdom, maybe at one of the smaller cities like Luang Prabang, and possibly from the larger cities like Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai- all three examples of which have some variety of this city wall format I've described, usually with additional less-documented outer curtain walls as part of a historical previous extended defensive wall network.
@MrSpirit99
@MrSpirit99 3 месяца назад
Great video. That guy knows what he is talking about and is passionate about it, great energy.
@wilsonlaidlaw
@wilsonlaidlaw 3 месяца назад
There are similar looking guns to be found in Indonesia. Some 17th century Indonesian dragon cannons have been found on the Great Barrier Reef, indicating that this area was known to Indonesian sailors of the period before Cook.
@jonpaul3868
@jonpaul3868 3 месяца назад
Looks like Javanese Dragon to me... Yes Indonesian highly probably
@cicak2404
@cicak2404 3 месяца назад
@@jonpaul3868 No it's not Javanese dragon. Javanese dragon has crown on their head. This dragon in very Chinese, it's not even close to mainland Southeast Asian dragons.
@blahblahblah8583
@blahblahblah8583 Месяц назад
Macassan traders (Sulewesi, Indonesia) had been trading with the Indigenous Australians of the Tiwi Islands and Arnhem Land (NT, Australia) long before Europeans discovered Australia.
@georgekruse7931
@georgekruse7931 3 месяца назад
This gun may belong to Nguyen or Tay Son dynasty from Vietnam. My theory is this gun was captured between 1785 - 1834 from Tay son or 1841 -1845 from Nguyen dynasty.Thailand (Siam) and Vietnam were in a series of armed conflicts between the Siamese Ayutthaya Kingdom and Rattanakosin Kingdom and the various dynasties of Vietnam mainly during the 18th and 19th centuries. Several of the wars took place in modern-day Cambodia ( Wikipedia ). Tay Son dynasty were especially famous for thier cannon battle against Qing and Siam force
@Wolvenworks
@Wolvenworks 3 месяца назад
That somewhat makes sense, given Vietnam’s status as a vassal state for the chinese back then, but i think some more solid evidence would help, especially pictures.
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 3 месяца назад
I liked the "whoosh". That's the first thing you notice when you're close to a black powder cannon, then the shock wave goes right through you and gives every atom in your body a good shake. It's quite exhilarating once you realise that everything's still attached. 😊
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 3 месяца назад
I was going to ask those same questions about if it had been a show piece etc. Imagine being a levy up against the British and being given this along with "Good luck, don't break it, it's worth more than your village. "
@samparkerSAM
@samparkerSAM 3 месяца назад
Fantastic Casting skills. Wonderful metal work.
@sophoklesgreek3237
@sophoklesgreek3237 3 месяца назад
very informative. and as a side note: as a not native speaker I really enjoyed the clear and good proconation, made it really easy to follow.
@causewaykayak
@causewaykayak 3 месяца назад
What a wonderful piece. Thanks for such a clear presentation and one delivered with understandable enthusiasm. 👍🏼
@boltmonkey6869
@boltmonkey6869 3 месяца назад
Excellent job Tom. Love the 10-15 min format. Keep them coming!
@iirainey
@iirainey 3 месяца назад
They're shorter because Tom talks faster than Johnathan.
@damwonstyx1169
@damwonstyx1169 3 месяца назад
Excellent presenter, when I heard that "Whoosh" reference regarding the cannons firing, I couldn't help get Lord Flasheart from Blackadder out of my mind :)
@gazzertrn
@gazzertrn 2 месяца назад
I like this guy , real passion for what he describes .
@andeve3
@andeve3 3 месяца назад
this gun is pretty underpowered in tf2
@greycatturtle7132
@greycatturtle7132 3 месяца назад
Yea
@paulthebeardedonedowning6820
@paulthebeardedonedowning6820 3 месяца назад
excellent job Tom truly fascinating bit of kit best of luck with finding out more
@philhawley1219
@philhawley1219 3 месяца назад
What a lovely instance of serendipity. I am watching this history of the dragon gun and England have just beaten Wales in the rugby. Sorry my Cambrian neighbours but dragons don't always win. Nos Dah.
@bjorntrollgesicht1144
@bjorntrollgesicht1144 3 месяца назад
So cool! Have you done a material analysis to figure out where the bronze came from, or a pattern analysis to find out where in the world such cannons had been made? I'm quite certain it contains identifying marks, just not marks we are fluent in reading anymore, like the pattern and number of claws, the shape of the dragon, the number and shape of specific features- that sort of thing. Maybe the artillery capabilities could be an answer too.
@X1ZR
@X1ZR 3 месяца назад
Looks insane, would love to see more weapons like this.
@Cats-TM
@Cats-TM 3 месяца назад
Now that is a beautiful piece, good luck on your research, really hope you can find out more. Very well done video aswell, you definetly are good at conveying the information…which is good when that is the point of interpreters at a museum.
@ss181292
@ss181292 3 месяца назад
Marvelous cannon. Taken straight from the legends!
@hippis563
@hippis563 3 месяца назад
Just love these vids, and a good narrator !
@kanrakucheese
@kanrakucheese 3 месяца назад
Would this have originally been painted? I know a lot of (generally European) artifacts that are now bare metal/stone are thought to have been when they were new and wonder if this would have been such a case.
@Mulvers
@Mulvers 3 месяца назад
Wow, what a piece! Thanks for the video Thomas and Armouries
@vinceely2906
@vinceely2906 3 месяца назад
This is…not Jonathan Ferguson. It’s Thomas Davies who has made pretty good video himself.
@NimbleSnek
@NimbleSnek 3 месяца назад
Absolutely fascinating, what a beautiful piece of art and weaponry. Wish you all luck with finding out more about it's history and origin!
@beefycheesecake
@beefycheesecake 3 месяца назад
Coolest cannon I've ever seen anyway.
@tomdawe5039
@tomdawe5039 3 месяца назад
The first thing I thought was how the hell did they make that it's beautiful
@janscott9151
@janscott9151 3 месяца назад
Good to see something from Fort Nelson. And what a fascinating piece.
@Lord.Kiltridge
@Lord.Kiltridge 3 месяца назад
Bravo. Well presented. Full points.
@tastesofhistory4560
@tastesofhistory4560 3 месяца назад
What a magnificent piece of casting/metalwork. If a weapon of war can be classed 'beautiful' then this is it! Every day's a learning day, thank you Thomas.
@chriswilson3126
@chriswilson3126 3 месяца назад
Yep that dragon would've breathed some serious fire!
@Creationeer
@Creationeer 3 месяца назад
Nice one Thomas, well done :)
@daveweiss5647
@daveweiss5647 2 месяца назад
Amazing! Most beautiful cannon I have ever seen!
@thatdudeinasuit5422
@thatdudeinasuit5422 3 месяца назад
Turns out it's secretly some sort of Chaos Warp/Laser Gun from the Warhammer 40k universe.
@azkrouzreimertz9784
@azkrouzreimertz9784 3 месяца назад
Or just a regular cannon from WH fantasy
@greycatturtle7132
@greycatturtle7132 3 месяца назад
XD
@cody-en7nt
@cody-en7nt 3 месяца назад
Angron is so angry bc he can't find this cannon.....😮
@sski
@sski 3 месяца назад
Wouldn't doubt it. There's so much REAL history that's been hidden from us, and FAKE history that's been put in its place, that we don't know what's history and what isn't.
@ThunderChunky101
@ThunderChunky101 3 месяца назад
Haha top comment! Upvote!!
@greycatturtle7132
@greycatturtle7132 3 месяца назад
Amazing 😮
@ScumfuckMcDoucheface
@ScumfuckMcDoucheface 3 месяца назад
This curator/presenter is fantastic. Can we have a lot more of him? =)
@at1848
@at1848 3 месяца назад
Fort Nelson is awesome 👍⭐️
@benjameshodges
@benjameshodges 3 месяца назад
Always enjoy visiting Fort Nelson.
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 3 месяца назад
This is the cannon you stick on the castle walls to show every one.
@murphylhunn
@murphylhunn 3 месяца назад
Fascinating
@khyghar
@khyghar 3 месяца назад
Beautiful weapon and nice storytelling!
@trikepilot101
@trikepilot101 3 месяца назад
Beautiful piece.
@darraghchapman
@darraghchapman 3 месяца назад
Nice timing. Happy new year!
@konnichi_wa
@konnichi_wa 3 месяца назад
Why did we stop making cool looking cannons? This looks dope
@gilmour6754
@gilmour6754 3 месяца назад
Wow, that is truly a work of art. Great video!
@johnchristopherrobert1839
@johnchristopherrobert1839 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@zXPeterz14
@zXPeterz14 3 месяца назад
Excellent job with this video. Imagine there was some pressure filling Jonathan’s shoes but he did a great job while doing their own thing
@r1w3d
@r1w3d 3 месяца назад
Enthusiasm goes far with first impressions. This is an extremely attractive cannon 👍
@j_taylor
@j_taylor 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the interesting story, Thomas. You've clearly done a lot of research on this cannon. You have a great TV presence and your enthusiasm is infectious! I hope to see you in more of these videos.
@QuakinMetal
@QuakinMetal 3 месяца назад
Excellent job Thomas! Loved the video.
@Raidwall
@Raidwall 3 месяца назад
His enthusiasm infectious. Great presenter, this guy.
@derekp2674
@derekp2674 3 месяца назад
Great video, thanks Thomas and team. That cannon is amazing.
@aaronskuse2207
@aaronskuse2207 3 месяца назад
OMG, they made the cannon from Kung-Fu Panda!
@karatescott
@karatescott 3 месяца назад
hell yeah thomas, excellent presentation and super charismatic delivery!! crazy history and craftsmanship
@a.k47-74
@a.k47-74 3 месяца назад
Fantastic piece of history!
@M-elephant7777
@M-elephant7777 3 месяца назад
Thunder and Meteorite by Dong Nguyan and Kaovjets Ngujens on Vietnamese firearms may have gunpowder info from that region
@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation
@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation 3 месяца назад
Looks straight out of Cathay in Warhammer
@teaguejelinek4038
@teaguejelinek4038 3 месяца назад
I like the dragon part
@johnbourke9128
@johnbourke9128 3 месяца назад
The young lad is a very good story teller 👍
@ThisDJ808
@ThisDJ808 3 месяца назад
Done a training course in here years ago, was a fascinating look around at lunch. I was staring at Henry the EIghths war outfit. Was a good day. Great place to hire rooms for training.
@richtbiskitz8081
@richtbiskitz8081 3 месяца назад
what an amazing and beautiful piece
@joaquinvelasquez6252
@joaquinvelasquez6252 3 месяца назад
"whoosh!" Goes the dragon!😂 Great video!👍
@exharkhun5605
@exharkhun5605 3 месяца назад
Great video.
@George_M_
@George_M_ 3 месяца назад
Golden AK, 16th Century Edition.
@ar6985
@ar6985 3 месяца назад
Some well heeled warlord no doubt.
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 3 месяца назад
Just in time for the Lunar New Year of the Dragon, fascinating
@MyTv-
@MyTv- 2 месяца назад
Cool and interesting, obvious bling! :-)
@bellakaldera3305
@bellakaldera3305 3 месяца назад
It isn't a Lantaka? I have seen similar cannon from Malaysia, with the dragon head and tail.
@okancanarslan3730
@okancanarslan3730 3 месяца назад
amazing cannon
@Skkernick
@Skkernick 3 месяца назад
This was alot of fun to watch and learn, thanks! I think I'd still want a plain cannon haha
@hazode
@hazode 3 месяца назад
Facepunch added this as a skin for the rocket launcher on Thursday :)
@pagancrew
@pagancrew 3 месяца назад
Hoping for another update on its provenance soon - good luck!
@MrFiflak77
@MrFiflak77 3 месяца назад
Tom did great job as a host on this video! I don't know whenever that was his first time being one or if I just have never seen him before but I really enjoyed listening to him. Hope to see him more often on the channel :)
@RoyalArmouries
@RoyalArmouries 3 месяца назад
Don't worry. Tom will be a regular around these parts.
@nilo70
@nilo70 3 месяца назад
If the bronze cannon still Rings like a Bell , it could still work. If it doesn’t ring there is a crack in it. I would love to see it fire again and be recorded in slow motion Etc.
@john_barnett
@john_barnett 3 месяца назад
If I ever come back to the UK I'm definitely going to check out all the RA locations
@kleinerprinz99
@kleinerprinz99 3 месяца назад
With the paper trail drying out in Siam I guess the only other way is a) studying historical documents , books , writings etc if they ever mention these guns at all somewhere b) archeological and material science methods of looking at the material composition, trying to date and geo-locate that, and the so called handprint of the craftsmanship itself if it appears on other works somewhere in SE of the time ; good luck with that endeavor ! :)
@user-so4tx7zs5r
@user-so4tx7zs5r 3 месяца назад
According to my belief, 4-claws "dragons" are for higher officials in Ming Dynasty. In Qing Dynasty the restriction was lifted off a bit, wealthy civilian would be able to acquire fabric in similar pattern. Terminologically dragon with 4 claws are not so-to-speak "real dragon" or "loong", but "mang". For one second I perceive this gun as a returning award for the Siam regime's tribute. However this is kinda a long shot for it being without proper marking (both practical and ceremonial) of Chinese official armory. The rear "knob" design, however, gives me a vibe of Southeast Asia origin though.
@Wolvenworks
@Wolvenworks 3 месяца назад
Dragon cannons are the ultimate cannon-based drip…unless you have a GOLD dragon cannon.
@Manco65
@Manco65 3 месяца назад
Maybe it eas used in some ceremony when the Buddhist equivalent of a Saint was "canonized"?
@chicagorandy
@chicagorandy 3 месяца назад
Interesting presentation of this ornate piece. I'm assuming the curator has a vision problem with one of his eyes? Or is it just the camera angle that makes it appear so?
@howitworks3607
@howitworks3607 3 месяца назад
Asking RU-vid commenters for reliable information is a bold strategy
@baronvonklik7159
@baronvonklik7159 3 месяца назад
Is this the same gun that stood in Napier barracks, Dortmund for years? (36 Regiment, R.A. Dragon battery)
@BlackSoap361
@BlackSoap361 3 месяца назад
Is it likely this was used for shooting solid shot, or could this have been used more as a flame projector or salute?
@TheSundayShooter
@TheSundayShooter 3 месяца назад
It has a trunnion 4:20 I wonder if the mount was as decorated
@LuxisAlukard
@LuxisAlukard 3 месяца назад
I'm pretty sure that's Tibetan War Cannon from Clive Barker's Undying
@TheSemajshadow
@TheSemajshadow 3 месяца назад
Such s beautiful cannon. I wonder how menny owners it's been stolen from as a war trophy??
@jiversteve
@jiversteve 3 месяца назад
Good presentation!
@sloboat55
@sloboat55 3 месяца назад
Excellent
@allensmith7945
@allensmith7945 3 месяца назад
It came from a now defunct store chain called Dragons R Us. Lol
@davidlange3418
@davidlange3418 3 месяца назад
Thank s for this and more on items in Fort Nelson please.
@RoyalArmouries
@RoyalArmouries 3 месяца назад
Coming up!
@gaylordpantamime
@gaylordpantamime 3 месяца назад
Hell yeah 👍
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