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MY BOY BETTER BE AT THE TOP edit: DANGIT I’LL MAKE HIM WORK YOULL SEE

Every calc I do is "This doesn't one-shot Incin?" and "Raging Bolt does how much/takes that little?"

Crowns Incineroar as lone S tier gigachad. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves.

Suicune with roar, snarl, scald, tailwind with leftovers honestly takes some insane hits and it can be super annoying, big fan

Hear me out so Liquid Voice makes Psychic Noise a Water move meaning you can stop healing on a lot good stuff. This is a big deal that a lot of people are sleeping on.

Absurdly curious if hitmontop could have the smallest of niches cuz he’s like, maybe the only “passable” support mon with upper hand? Know we were all hyped for that move in particular only for it to get no distribution where it mattered, but maybe hitmontop could cook??????

Omg how could you do this to my precious megainium! CANCELLED!!!

One thing of note is that Slaking and Regigias got double edge for the first time in the dlc as a tm so we haven't seem what they can do with stab better than body slam. Likely still copium tho since keeping weezing alive is a problem.

Smeargle pottentially wants burning bullwark over spiky shield this gen, depending on how many taunters it runs into

With a 116HP/28Def Meowstic actually lives a jolly non-tera surging strikes, it has some prankster utility and is a funny little guy. It's been on my team for a while and I've brought it to like 2 games LOL

Feel like malamar could be a closed team sheet menace because it has skillswap contrary this gen so could give a one of the eon duo contrary and have them click deco metro Probably pretty bad though

252+ Atk Choice Band Water Bubble Tera Water Araquanid Liquidation vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyogre in Rain: 331-390 (97 - 114.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO I love this Pokemon. I don't think it'll see that much success, but I can hope

Not to be that guy or anything, but serp has some sets where it can sweep with Tera fire. Leaf storm allows you to invest a bit more in other stats aside from special attack, including bulk to allow it to survive from way too many things. Also ability shield serp combined with weezing is weirdly good, i reccomend it.

They really need to give Vileplume something new to help it differentiate from Venusaur and Amoonguss. I think Triage would be a cool ability for it

Pretty sure Metagross will run Hard Press as it's steel of choice now. There are very few instances where Heavy Slam will KO while neither Hard Press or Bullet Punch are able to, and it will much more reliably be 120 base power.

I feel like Vileplume could be a pretty good supportive pokemon. It gets access to moves like sleep powder, strength sap, pollen puff, acid spray, sunny day, teeter dance, helping hand, and after you. It can run effect spore and rocky helmet to punish pokemon like urshifu and incineroar for trying to attack you. However I will admit that Vileplume has a pretty bad speed stat and only okay bulk. Probably not gonna be meta defining or anything but it can definitely have a niche

I’ve actually been able to put in some type of work with Sceptile for once. In double battles at least, I paid it wuth Greninja snd use water and grass pledge, shed tail, and I gave it dragon cheer and cheer on my tera dragon Maushold. Not sure how good that strategy is it’s just something I randomly came up with, but it works fairly well for the most part

Confused how venusaur and meganium still don’t have pollen puff and rage powder.

I’m real mad that Raging Bolt and Gouging Fire are one of a kind. I’ve got Violet and don’t have the time or cash to buy and grind through Scarlet and get them. No shot on someone just gifting them to me or trade for them or some such. I’m hoping we get Raids for them, but I’m too much of a cynic to hold my breath.

I like cinccino :) Edit: cinccino is actually really good, it gets tidy up, allowing it to outspeed some choice scarfed mons, and now that the loaded dice exists, it can use tecision to boost those multi hitting moves

I think Electivire will be more usable now, thanks to Clear Amulet allowing it to properly use its physical Atk and it now learning Bulk Up this gen. It can also Tera Water to make its only weakness Grass thanks to Motor Drive, and since Rillaboom is so prevalent, Tera Flying can be a backup. Also has decent coverage in the new Supercell Slam, elemental punches, Cross Chop and Knock Off.

yay moxie boosted video :D

I knew incineroar was a menace, I love incineroar's shiny, I caught it, trained competitve wise (exactly like other gens but + knock off (how did it get buffed???)), and damn, no attack investment and it's still *that* high. He deserves the throne.

Bro, Tera Water Araquanid is insane. In rain, while Tera, holding Mystic Water, with Water Bubble and STAB, its Liquidation is 1,224 base power, without type multipliers. It’s a 6.3% roll to OHKO Abomasnow with max Attack

Latios has been my favorite Pokémon for decades, and I’m happy luster purge finally got buffed. I’ve been running Tera electric with thunderbolt to get rid of his billion weaknesses from his typing, and stab thunderbolt has been pretty useful for dealing with all the water types I’ve been coming across

1:41 is a part of the video nobody seemed to watch Edit: btw really good list! My playthrough team was luckily out of good luck entirely.

Every day I mourn the loss of that fake leak that claimed Golurk would get Hypnosis. It would've been the funniest Spore mon in VGC

Thank you 🙏🏽 I needed this I have so many pokemon and idk where to start

It's funny that everyone is I see telling Stella Tera is bad only talks about the buffs and completely ignores the ability to snipe teralyzed Pokémon. Like it was a minor thing, but it's the mechanics core.

Tbh sometimes I believe people tend to understimate iron crown and boulder. Like, Boulder is Urshifu rock and just needs to tera, and Iron Crown doesnt even needs that. It can just expanding force everything short of incineroar Meawhile, I feel Gouginh Fire will not perform as good as people expect him too. Idk, just a hunch

keep up the work work

not trying to be that guy but i think vileplume can be a solid sun supporter. It gets sleep powder, after you and helping hand which can be really helpfull if youre looking for a bulky sun supporter that doesent get hit by urshifu to hard and can kinda deal with it due to strenght sap. It is competing with venusaur and hisuian liligant so it will be very niche but its worth a mention

33:52 "Welcome to your throne, king,"

one buff i wish they would of done is give regice iron defence it would have made it viable with body press, even if it is just a little

i feel like blastoise should get either swift swim or the more unlikely case, drizzle to actually give it a niche

Intimidate Malamar huh? I do hope someone does fun stuff with Contrary Skill Swap at least!

Metagross with Hard Press plus bullet punch is really good

I liked playing with comfey non competitive in sword. Setting up sun with a ninetales then using a combo of growth, draining kiss, stored power, and giga drain was fun with triage.

What are the reasons behind the ev investments? What benchmarks are "mandatory" to meet and why? Isn't it impossible to predict what you'll be up against? E.g. 16:14 What's the basis for assuming other hitmontops won't have higher speed investment?

I know Minior is not great, but I really want to climb the ladder with him. I think it could be decent next to clefairy. Redirect for shell smash and then you have a fast rock slide with a rather bulky mon. Not saying it is great, but I am thinking about it.

golurk no gaurd av high horsepower, dynamic punch, poltergeist, and zen headbutt. maybe run drainpunch for some health tera fighting or psychic if you tera psychic you can run zen headbutt, dynamic/drain punch, fire punch(for bug coverage)and phantom force or poltergeist.

AV Hitmontop is crazy to me. I always use him as a wide guard/helping hand user

I’ve been using dewgong with Fake out, Flip turn, Play rough and ice spinner with Tera fairy assault vest and it’s been doing pretty good

I will say that one point in Archaludon‘s favor is that it’s a rain abuser that is extremely strong against Raging Bolt, giving Torn-Ursh teams another way to deal with one of their hard counters

I mainly know singles but this video just reminded me Defiant is a god ability in doubles on top of the new ability being gimped to death on Gambit lmao

Hate how lanturn gets everything you would want a bulky pivot to have and stats hold it back from ever being what we want it to be.

I can see smeargle running burning bulwark instead of spiky shield

Iron Boulder is a great contender for Clear Amulet. He immediately threatens H-Arc, Incin, and genies and doesn't have to worry about intimidate cycling. The real juicer tech though is running scope lens dragon tera with dragon cheer Sceptile next to him

Looking forward to using electivire this gen!! It’s gonna have a comeback

Whats "the attack bump"? I noticed you talked abt it on a few mons. Ive only been playing for about a year, and i dont know many of the concepts that pro players do

I’m surprised Cinccino wasn’t atleast c tier now that you can can run technician with loaded dice

Golurk gets Klutz and Trick to put Assault Vest onto supports like Torn :^) I know it sucks but more importantly, its funny.

i started fiddling with an iron boulder and tornadus, weakness policy on boulder and tailwind u turn on torn. Plus 2 and tailwind dnagerous

the background-beat you use at 24:04 is the same one a famous german battlerap platform uses for their outros, the familiarity confused me for a second 😂

I think Latias is still slept on. It’s a bulky Tailwind setter with recovery, good STAB, and coverage. Unlike most other Tailwind setters, it can live a couple of hits with not that much investment. Pair that with Rocky Helmet and you have a bulky monster.

18:20 As someone who has tried Dragon Cheer + Sniper Kingdra, I will say... this thing is not worth it lmao, it has quite a few problems This is a format with a lot of Dragon types and Flutter Mane is still everywhere (And, as you said in the vid, Bundle is also relevant). This makes Kingdra really want to Tera ASAP (personally think it likes Tera Steel + Flash Cannon), but the problem is that with the way Dragon Cheer works, Kingdra needs to be a Dragon at the time Dragon Cheer is used to get the +2 Crit instead of +1, meaning you will need at least one turn of Kingdra being a dragon to get the most value out of it (Which, in other words, just means you are kinda forced to run Protect). Not just that, but after Kingdra terastalizes, if it switches out at any point in the match it will lose its +2 Crit as well, with any subsequent Cheer giving it only +1 That aside, if you are running Kingdra for Dragon Cheer, you are most likely running Sniper, which in turn means you're passing on Swift Swim, so you're stuck with Kingdra's base 85 Speed. This means Kingdra will not only need Dragon Cheer support, it will also need some sort of speed control support (one could try to make a case for agility, but you're already locking one moveslot to Protect and it runs into the exact same issues Swift Swim would've, but with a way higher cost of a moveslot) And even all that said... what are you using Dragon Cheer on? The only decent support options I've found with this move are Milotic, Gyarados, Hisuian Goodra, maybe Dragapult if you value the speed (and in this specific case of Kingdra, Iron Jugulis gets Tailwind so one could try that to patch up the aforementioned speed issues with Kingdra); but I feel like all the mons that get this move don't really want to drop any of their current options just to give an ally increased crit. In other words, "Yeah sure I guess" is absolutely appropriate for Kingdra. If you really wanna use Dragon Cheer, you're better off pairing it with either a fast special Dragon that wants to spam Draco Meteor or with a mon that has moves with high crit like Ogerpon. Kingdra ain't it

Scarf Rampardos actually slaughters for me

Idk if its any good to use endeavor focus sash whimsicott but it sure is funny seeing them bring out an iron hands and then instantly bring it down to 1HP

I have iron boulder higher cuz I have him on a team I built and he just crushes in late game. When mons are weak and instead off guessing if they gonna protect I just mighty cleave.

The thing about Kingdra this gen is that it can run physical sets since it got Dragon Dance and a lot of new physical moves (no good dragon STAB tho) But generally it's still meh.. Btw Bastiodon got Foul Play xD

Glad to see the Scarlet paradoxes are better yet again 😤🙏

Question: Gouging Fire’s Temper Flare - this move is stronger if the previous move has failed, but which of the moves in this set will fail to give it that boost? Sorry if this is a silly question. I’m not usually a competitive player but want to try the upcoming prologue tournament for DLC. This has been super helpful! Thanks!

Made 3 guys forfeit turn one with choice band tera normal explosion regirock so it has to be at least A tier

Would you not use the burning protect on Smeargl? Is that move sketchable?

Im still going to try and use Quaquavale in a team along with Serperior 🙌🏼 somehow... 😂

is rampardos with something like bug tera worth running in trick room?

while i cannot agree more with cinccinos placement it does get tidy up which (assuming it lives the turn) does let it outspeed and ohko quite a few goobers which is a set ive been having fun with

I think you’re right about Hydrapple. I wish it was better but I think it just isn’t spectacular, in this format at least.

As a noob to competitive, I've heard you mention "bumps" a couple of times when referencing EVs, can you explain a bit about that? For reference, you mentioned hitting an attack bump on adamant Gouging Fire at 196. What makes that a bump, exactly?

big fan of great neck!

"This is my second time doing this because I forgot to record the first time" 💀

I want to defend Iron Crown because its my Favorite, but it was pretty fairly rated from an unbiased opinion

Sucks that the in game description for water bubble does not say it doubles water moves.

Damn my boy Entei right up there

Can you please tell us the bgm you use. Its so gooddddd!!

Water bubble plus wave crash….imagine that’d be so sick

I dont know about any calcs but malamar has skill swap with contrary. Just something interesting.

Man I was literally typing my Kingdra Dragon Cheer comment right as he said that somebody will say that in the comments 😔

Is there a guts mon with brutal swing... cause gouging fire burning them with protect and giving an item slot...lil spicy

31:21 you could also be evil with encore+taunt and make it struggle

Babe wake up new dlc vid

what was the pokemon that wasnt named?

32:51 dynamic punch

Archaludon's Mid speed and 100 attack is really wasted i wish they just made him an all round bulky trick room Rain abusing nuke

They should give Blastoise that pulse ability that clauncher gets!

What do you mean Meganium’s not good????? I used Rocky Helmet and it beat uh- it 1v1s Urshifu…

Blastoise: if this guy had fur coat... XD that one got me so hard, its like the most nonsense ability you could choose (from a style perspective).

Can't wait for someone to pull up with the niche off-meta pick and win a regional

im sorry, meganium fans 252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Meganium in Rain on a critical hit: 63-72 (33.6 - 38.5%) -- approx. 3HKO

What pokemon are they copyright striking over? Terapagos?

What is the one getting copyright struck

Araquinid not getting Wave Crash is a crime

When can I use Gouging fire in ranked?

hyped

Can you run burning bulwark on smeargle instead of smiky shield now?

Funny thing is that megainium got swords dance naturally in gen 2, while gatr didn’t

Dragonite and H-Arcanine gettin funky in the daycare

"BuT dRaGoN cHeEr?!!☝️🤓" took me out🤣🤣🤣

The fact that they buffed incineroar is wild to me

What is the extent of open sheets now? They know your team and their tera types? Is that it?