The Indo-European Sky Father

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The Proto-Indo-Europeans of the Pontic Caspian Steppe and other parts of Eastern Europe in the neolithic worshipped a paternal deity who they called Dyḗus ph₂tḗr “sky father”. With comparative linguistics and comparative mythology we can learn a lot about this ancient god from whom Greek Zeus, Roman Jupiter, Irish Dagda, Vedic Dyáuṣ Pitṛ́ and Norse Odin and many others also derive. In this video I explain what we know about the god’s mythic roles relating to cattle, his relationship to other gods in the Indo-European religion and his association with different animals in later pagan religions.
The Sky Father is the most well attested of all the Indo-European gods and is central to our understanding of Proto-Indo-European religion.
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Altyn Tuu - Altai Tuva
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Sjhof - path to the temple
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Sources:
Anthony, D., ‘The Horse, the Wheel, and Language’ 2007. amzn.to/3wOUyUQ
Dumezil, G., ‘Mythe et Épopée’ 1973
Dumezil, G., ‘Mitra-Varuna: An Essay on Two Indo-European Representations of Sovereignty’, 1988. amzn.to/3gON9iX
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Lincoln, B., ‘THE INDO-EUROPEAN MYTH OF CREATION’ 1975
Matasović, R., ‘A Reader in Comparative Indo-European Religion’ 2010
Mylonas, G. E., ‘The Eagle of Zeus’ 1946
Puhvel, J., ‘Victimal Hierarchies in Indo-European Animal Sacrifice’: The American Journal of Philology , Autumn, 1978, Vol. 99, No. 3 (Autumn, 1978), pp. 354-362
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00:00 Intro
01:34 Indo-Europeans and their beliefs
03:55 Comparative mythology
05:00 Linguistics
07:55 Identifying the sky father
11:15 Indo-European cosmogenesis
14:24 Celestial vs Terrestrial and Hieros Gamos
16:24 Sovereign gods
17:15 Zeus
18:34 Horse twins
19:49 Sacrificial beasts
22:28 Bulls
23:21 Eagles
24:52 Wolves
26:25 Conclusion

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16 июн 2024

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@jurikurthambarskjelfir3533 3 года назад

"Spread out and conquer, my sons." "Yes, Sky-Father."

@jurikurthambarskjelfir3533 2 года назад

@@navaneethkrishnan5401 The comment is inspired by another comment I found on a video by Ollie Bye, called something like "spread of the Indo-Europeans".

@rennor3498 2 года назад

And when the ran out of land to conquer they conquered themselves.

@NeoStoicism 2 года назад

I hungrily search for the next unconquered realm -- Now, bring me that horizon.

@shaunhooker85 2 года назад

evil. not our god. an alien obsessed with invading. THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST!

@ErPuglia Год назад

This explain why we (the descendants of the Indo-Europeans) are basically a two-legged war-machine

@PopTartNeko 3 года назад

Etymologists in the next 3000 years be like: > skedd > skeded > ske dedi > sky daddy

@akashchoubey3207 3 года назад

😂😂😂

@MacNif 2 года назад

Lmao

@coollguyyyarzoo9095 2 года назад

@@akashchoubey3207 bhai 4 ved parhey hoh??

@akashchoubey3207 2 года назад

@@coollguyyyarzoo9095 no buddy

@gxramirez 2 года назад

😂😂😂😇

@crypticknight3578 3 года назад

I've always wondered where the concept of 'mother nature' comes from. Learning that she is the counterpart of a 'skyfather' makes so much sense. Thank you!

@funkyfiss 3 года назад

When it rains, that's the holy union. By ancient standard's.

@MrAnsatsuken 3 года назад

Fathet Sky & Mother Earth. Father Sun & Mother Moon.

@McHobotheBobo 3 года назад

@@MrAnsatsuken We also see mother sun and father moon in some cultures but I think sky and earth are (almost) always m/f to my knowledge

@mankuqhapaqii4798 3 года назад

Mother nature has existed in countless isolated human societies.

@McHobotheBobo 3 года назад

@@mankuqhapaqii4798 All modern humans come from a group of approx. 100-1000 individuals that originate from Africa, and it could be a practice older than homo sapiens tbh

@dittbub 3 года назад

"primordial cow" i've been called worse.

@Jumpoable 3 года назад

LOLOLOLOLOL

@jdavid50 3 года назад

lol

@ianwilkinson4602 3 года назад

Bullocks :-)

@pruthweeshasalian3688 3 года назад

It's quite alien to us Indians how you Westerners use 'cow' as an insult, when the cow is such a massively useful animal, and especially so to you Western folk who are mostly lactose tolerant.

@jdavid50 3 года назад

@@pruthweeshasalian3688 That's true, but nobody wants to fuck a cow. That is the context the insult is used in. It means that a female is fat and sexually undesirable. It doesn't mean that she can't make a sandwich or do the dishes.

@brunofelipe9330 3 года назад

The way he combines culture-history-linguistics and religion is incredible.

@leekenyon8705 3 года назад

The evidence of such connections to other cultures are weak at best and such similarities are not that uncommon because such ideals can come into existence separately believing otherwise is like calling people dumb, stupid or that such ancient people did not have imagination or had trouble coming up with their own stories that is of course a way of insulting other cultures and religions and even less intellect peoples can achieve more with writing and storing information and knowledge and a class of educated people since knowledge and technology is build upon knowledge and technology that needs to be passed on to new generations and is very possible that modern man is less intellect then he was in the past and less able to survive in the conditions of their ancestors existed in thus the belief of Europeans greatness being locked in the ice until it thawed allowing the growth of nations that are maintained by the food source farms, how many of your children will survive in the far north without heating and technology ?What choices will cause them to live or die and reproduce offspring that may or may not live to carry on the blood-line and traits of their forefathers. The northern wind of death was even more ruthless in such ages making man hide in holes and tents thus hel is frozen and unheated, how many millions of babies died of the cold over such generations? The modern age is where weakness grows and reproduces more easily and can even result in the dumbing down and the corruption of the populations.

@minutemansam1214 3 года назад

@@leekenyon8705 They literally have the same names. Zeus Pater. Iupiter. Dyáuṣ-pitṛ́. There is no evidence that people today are less intelligent than people from 10,000 years ago. The rest of your comment is just worthless drivel. You sound like someone who thinks they're deeper and more insightful than they really are. I suggest learning how to think better before trying to sound intelligent.

@knoahbody69 3 года назад

@@minutemansam1214 If you put D instead of Z, Zeus becomes Deus, the Latin word for God.

@bojanstare8667 3 года назад

@@leekenyon8705 Your opinion has pros and cons. If you wanted to say that fight for survival is good for intellect, than you suport Wall street. The same is with telling that our children are weak. I don`t like to my children to live in wild west with colt in the hand. Alsotoday a lot of children, people are dying every day of starvation and illness. Maybe in next 20-30 years west civilization will be inferior to third world - China, Brazil, India etc. Nowadays world has more power, science, resources and knowlidge then people in all history until now. It is just matter of ethics and humanity to make a world better. But if I look almost all comments, everybody is interesting about battles, conquering, fight, defeat etc. That in`t proper way to survive onthe earth. In last 30 years we have done everything to destroy earth. The same future as people on Easter island have done in history. They have cut allthe threes on island and hacehad problems withfood and other condition. Our wayis today the same, just we don`t haveanother island to rescue ourselve. Now we don`t need to fight but to cooperate and to stop destroying everything. GREED ISN`T GOOD AT ALL!!!

@zoushuu 3 года назад

@@leekenyon8705 Hello, I don't mean to come off as rude, but your text it not very reader friendly, as about two thirds of it are one very very long-running sentence.

@mihanich 3 года назад

Gigachad Skyfather: "Go and conquer as far as your eyes see" Indo-european Chads: "yes, Skyfather".

@jaklm4221 3 года назад

Ready the chariots Let's spread war and fire

@colonelmilk2586 3 года назад

@Globglogabgolab 2.0 lol beta male thinking homosex is a crime but the strongest empires like the Greeks or romans would disagree

@gerryk12 3 года назад

@Globglogabgolab 2.0 found the fash kid

@x-fun3149 3 года назад

@Globglogabgolab 2.0 yeah and then the bottoms rose up and now we have hole-peg equity

@mihanich 3 года назад

@@uvizachan because too much chadness

@saimanslayys9374 2 года назад

Funny how indra and zeus from hindu/greek mythology have the same story as well. Both lived in mountains(amravati/olympus) and fought the giant serpent vritra/typhon using vajra/lightning bolt.

@kasturipillay6626 2 года назад

It does sound funny. But if you look at how these languages are intertwined it makes sense. All of us are linked in some way.

@joebombero1 2 года назад

Look up a guy named Velikovsky, specifically his book "Worlds in Collision". Fascinating stuff with a lot of comparitive mythology.

@justicebydeathnote 2 года назад

wait i thought indra lived on mt. meru

@erenyaeger9407 Год назад

He lives on Mt. Meru, Airavat is the name of his vehicle which a white elephant

@Tonixxy Год назад

Because as it's already mentioned they all have the same origin in the religion of Aryans.

@randomperson6141 3 года назад

Divine Father : Vedic: Dyáuṣ Pitṛ́, Greek: Zeus Patēr, Illyrian : Dei-pátrous, Roman : Jupiter (*Djous patēr), Scythian : Papaios for Zeus, Palaic : Tiyaz papaz. Divine Twins : Vedic : Divó nápātā (the Aśvins), Lithuanian: Dievo sūneliai (the Ašvieniai), Latvian: the Dieva dēli, Greek: the Diós-kouroi (Castor and Pollux) Celtic: the "Dioskouroi” Thunder god : Indra (Vedic), Indra (Avestan), Inara (Hittite), Thor (Germanic ), Perun(Slavic), Perkunas(Lithuanian) - this is a cognate for Vedic Parjanya. Goddess of Dawn : Uṣas (Vedic), Eos (Greek), Aurora (Roman), Aushrine (Baltic), Auseklis (Latvian) God of Rain : Varuṇa (Vedic), Odinn/Wodan (Germanic), Ouranous (Greek)

@randomperson6141 3 года назад

@הרב בן הרב בן גור אריה יהודה Who cares ? All gods are false gods.

@christophersuarez6490 3 года назад

Thank you so much!! This is amazing!!

@christophersuarez6490 3 года назад

@הרב בן הרב בן גור אריה יהודה All gods are false, and the judeo-Christian god was also one in a polytheistic system of Canaanite deities with wives and children and everything until Abraham just decided that wasn’t the case.

@karstais 3 года назад

Latvian mythology doesn't really have the twins, but it does have a thunder god. His name literally translates to "thunder"

@rays5163 3 года назад

Even without taking into the account the a other comments in this thread the "g" was capitalized because it was the first word in a list item, not because it was being used as a proper noun

@louispellissier914 3 года назад

You forgot to mention that Myceaenic greeks worshipped a sky god called Diwo, which is closer to the PIE Dyaus than the later Zeus

@varalderfreyr8438 3 года назад

You thought it was Zeus, but it was I, Diwo!

@angelaflying9591 3 года назад

That sounds a lot like dio in italian

@lifelessons7401 3 года назад

Couldn't it be just another case form of the noun? Since genitive of Zeus is Dios, dative is Dii and accusativ is Dia. There are for sure correspondences.

@shadmanhasan4205 3 года назад

Considering how psychotic of a diety zeus was, i think Dio from jojo would be a good Derivative

@aryadeepghosh9782 3 года назад

Do the Mycenian Greeks originate from the island called Crete?? I think they vanished and the Minoan greeks survived.

@HistoryTime 3 года назад

Very fascinating

@mikavikesland9611 3 года назад

And very Indo-European

@Toddoss5875 3 года назад

Nice to see you here!

@darktyrannosaurus22 3 года назад

*Dyæus bless you

@freestylevimto3109 3 года назад

@Leigh Jordon Because we never called ourselves that

@truthseeker8123 3 года назад

Say Aryan. Their name for themselves. Don’t be censored, or ignore the truth. Political correctness destroys science.

@Emiliapocalypse 3 года назад

I need a shirt that says “Thank the indo-European sky father it’s Friday”

@luddity 3 года назад

Freya's Day.

@victorcode2075 3 года назад

TDPIF : Thank Deus Pater it's Friday

@sedwillful 3 года назад

Wednesday would have been better; that's Odin's day. Odin is a Skyfather. Friday was his chick; like Iron Man's AI unit.

@sarthak1109 3 года назад

Or thank to indo European earth mother it's Friday .

@jacobandrews2663 2 года назад

@@sedwillful I think Saturday is a better day to pick

@The_Gallowglass 3 года назад

My father used to come down from the sky with his weapon of choice: the belt. Shit hurt.

@zosiab1742 3 года назад

It's what you get for posting cringe like this

@The_Gallowglass 3 года назад

@@zosiab1742 Ok.

@architsharma6524 3 года назад

This explains why Cow (cattle) is sacred in Hinduism, the whole civilization is circled around it.

@lets_wrapitup 3 года назад

@@OkarinHououinKyouma yes in the bible, in the Quran it’s depicted as 6 long periods or eons, not specified. Lol offended indian

@caniblmolstr4503 3 года назад

Archit, if you searched a little more you would get to know that Greeks too held Cows sacred. And called it the mother and animals of Hera.

@abhishekrai1060 3 года назад

@@lets_wrapitup yeah earth and vegetation came eons before Sun like stated in your false new man made religion. Hinduism is considered oldest active religion by both western and eastern historians

@lets_wrapitup 3 года назад

@@abhishekrai1060 stated where? Dont just claim bs and and not back it up. And you don’t even know the definition of Islam, when you do get back to me. Some people don’t even recognise Hinduism as a religion, and I’d say the same about islam, Islam, Christianity, Judaism are all the same, but Islam would be the purest out the 3. And all that it means is to be monotheistic, to submit to the will of God... even plants are Muslims. So if you have a brain you!d realise the first creation would be by definition, a Muslim. I don’t care if there was a clay tablet depicting some guy sitting cross-legged on the ground 😂😂😂 offended hindu

@abhishekrai1060 3 года назад

@@lets_wrapitup On 7 days of creation, on 3rd day dry ground and plants were created and on 4th day sun moon and stars were created. Plus this world began only 6000 years ago 😂😂. Only a fool and brainwashed people like you believe that. They knew they were newer religion and to remain the first religion in the world they negated all other things from before

@dan5708 3 года назад

Probably the most high quality history channel on youtube.

@stephenbrand5661 3 года назад

Mark Felton is also very good if you're into 20th century war history.

@jccrouse7943 3 года назад

@@stephenbrand5661 Also Fire of Learning is great

@wyattwilbourne530 3 года назад

Check out Asha Logos as well. Amazing stuff. Probably my favorite channel right now

@stephenbrand5661 3 года назад

@Hardline Firewire Yeah well I'm pretty sure a Russian American Jew (Sergei Brin I think) started Google so makes sense for RU-vid to be sensitive to Jewish concerns overall. I hate how that guy TIK always tries to push his personal politics when he analyzes Hitler and National Socialism. He tries to tie Hitler to socialism in general as a way to criticize the latter but his analysis really only makes sense if the Social Democrats, the largest party in interwar Germany by far, didn't exist. AND if the Night of the Long Knives hadn't purged Strasser and the rest of the left wing of the Nazi Party in 1934.

@calum5975 3 года назад

He's a well known racist and fascist tho, some horrible connections to political groups. A few of his videos are horribly researched and based on century outdated racial theory, such as one on Ancient Greek ethnicity. He's got a good presentation voice, but as for the quality of the actual history, it's questionable at best and outright missinformation at worst.

@geminiblue6677 3 года назад

"The sky impregnates the earth with rain, so she will bear crops". Very kinky..

@ThePSmoke 3 года назад

Check out some Mesoamerican art. There is a reason rain is depicted to look like a bunch of falling dongs.

@viridianacortes9642 3 года назад

Bruh. 😎

@compulsiverambler1352 3 года назад

They probably genuinely thought rain and sperm worked in the same way, which was just a big mystery in both cases.

@spiritualnofwup9555 3 года назад

Completely made up shit

@ThePSmoke 3 года назад

@@spiritualnofwup9555 is this the part where you tell us about Jesus?

@InsaneInsomniac1 3 года назад

When you mentioned how the Storm God became the first dragon slayer by using a hammer, my brain immediately connected it to how Thor fights and kills Jormungandr

@bojanstare8667 3 года назад

Serbs have idea that saint George who has killed the dragon was Scytian or Iranian who has killed Chineseor Mongols (they have dragon on a flag).

@thisismyhandle745 2 года назад

Look up the Chaoskampf, storm gods killing a serpent/dragon is such an ancient story it can be found in India (Lord Indra) to Scandinavia.

@Edgelord-rn9he 2 года назад

@InsaneInsomniac1, and so The Dragon Born (Dovahkiin) was born at 13:13

@dylanroemmele906 2 года назад

@@thisismyhandle745 So if the Vikings did conquer India they would get a long pretty well then

@yonathanrakau7279 2 года назад

not that much suprised, the germans were among the most related mythologically toward original indoeuropean

@diarmuidsheehan4927 3 года назад

As an Irishman, I love to see our ancient history and philology mentioned in your videos. It reminds me that all our myths are linked and are retellings of the same primordial Truth, which is the same if you're in India or Ireland 🇮🇪♥️

@Fein811 2 года назад

Yes brother🇮🇳🚩

@akshay1542 2 года назад

Diarmuid, what a name! Great to know that you don't hate these belief systems but also appreciate them.

@joshuataylor3550 2 года назад

Well, not a truth, just a common human impulse.

@deutscherfischer55 2 года назад

@@joshuataylor3550 if it’s a common human impulse that makes it true

@luisandrade2254 2 года назад

@@joshuataylor3550 humans have an impulse for truth

@nabu213 3 года назад

Algorithm boosting comment

@peterhoulihan9766 3 года назад

Algorithm boosting reply

@HummusIsYuch 3 года назад

I'm great - Algorithm boosting boast

@nuwanmc 3 года назад

Veda

@gloopz9525 3 года назад

purple bananas

@iUser3gs 3 года назад

Ironic, this video does not come up on youtube search, whatever the combination of words or even the exact title. It's shadowbanned. I came here from facebook, this is not possible to find on youtube. This video can't be found on Google either. only link comes up is his own blog. You can try it.

@alexjann5802 2 года назад

I broke down and started crying the moment I saw a bibliography list on a youtube video. Thank you bro. Great work

@tiffanyhendricks1860 3 года назад

Reminds me of Tengrism, it may be more shamanistic than polytheistic, yet still a great admiration for the sky god.

@ProtoIndoEuropean88 3 года назад

All polytheism is originated in Animistic shamanism. the spirits of the mountain, of the water, of the sun, of the sky have developed into Gods after the common spirit of the dead of an ancestor has been differentiated with the spirit of nature and a higher dominating spirit. The divine or aka a God/Goddess

@wyattspittler2771 3 года назад

@@Ebionarius Subotai was also the name (or very close to I can’t remember exactly) of one of Genghis Khans most badass generals

@matheuroux5134 3 года назад

Well if you think of it, those Proto-Indo-Europeans were steppe people and their culture was probably similar to later Tengrist Turks and Mongols.

@pruthweeshasalian3688 3 года назад

Different culture, same spirit. Appreciation of and gratitude towards nature's elements, with personification (deistic) or without personification (animistic), is ubiquitous among non-Abrahamic traditions. This is why Indo-Europeanism, Dravidianism, Tengrism, Korean Shamanism, Daoism, etc. are mutually compatible, and when they meet, tend to create syncretic cultures rather than communal enmity. There have been wars between some of said cultures, though, but these wars were not a means of religious subjugation, but of redistribution of wealth.

@pruthweeshasalian3688 3 года назад

@@wyattspittler2771 You're right. The writers picked a Tengrist name for a Tengrist character.

@anonymousinternetuserfawke3295 3 года назад

I'm glad someone with enthusiasm for history and the origins of things is making programs like this. When the person who put together the work cares, it shows, and it's nice to see someone share that with others. In a sea of lowbrow mainstream shows that cover topics that would be a real stretch to consider history-related, this really stands out.

@SuperMrMuster 3 года назад

In Finnish, the Christian God is frequently referred to as "Taivaan Isä" which means father of heaven or father in the heavens. As you may or may not already know, Finnish language and culture contain many ancient Germanic, Pre-Germanic and Proto-Indo-European words and elements, so this may be significant. This all said, I cannot say how old this custom of calling god the father of heaven is. It might not be connected to the Indo-European custom. Then again, in kalevalan folk poetry, one of the most common epithets of Ukko the Overgod is "Taatto taivahinen". Taatto is a very archaic word meaning father, and seems like it might be a loan from Proto-Germanic "attô". Taivahinen means "heavenly" or "sky-residing". The form of this word is archaic.

@macchernac8922 3 года назад

The slavic word for father is ''Tata'' so ''Taatto tivahinen'' would be ''Father God in the Sky''. Another thing of note is how the word for ''God'' and ''Giant'' are used interchangeably more often than not and Giants being part of the family for most of the Indo-European pantheons.

@perfectpREdAtori 3 года назад

I just realized how similiar the word ''Taivas'' is to word Dyeus, Tiwas, etc. My mind just blew open.

@usernotfound40412 3 года назад

Interesting, I speak Kashmiri (a north Indian Dardic Language). We have a similar word 'Táavan' which is used as an indicative of bad omen or bad luck for/to parents. Weird!

@SuperMrMuster 3 года назад

@@whatsallthebrouhaha I suspect as much as well. That's why I had to look back to an earlier example in the kalevala-style poetry. The folk poetry has ancient origins, so there are decent odds that the calling of the overgod of the pagan religion as a sky father is an old tradition, independent of Christianity.

@SuperMrMuster 3 года назад

@@perfectpREdAtori Finnish "taivas" might be derived from Proto-Balto-Slavic "deiwas" or indeed from Indo-Aryan "daywas". The linguistic ancestors of both the Finns and the Indo-Aryan peoples used to inhabit the Eurasian steppes at the same time. In either case, the word does go back all the way to Dyeus.

@t-boneshteak8426 3 года назад

We dont say "hello" in the Irish language, we say "Dia dhuit" which literally means "God with you".

@ogimia 3 года назад

we say the same in Serbia "God with you" and other side responds with "with you is God" (something like that)

@francesco9281 3 года назад

in italian we use "addio" to say goodbye, which is an abbreviation of "vai con dio" o "ti raccomando a dio" which roughly translate to "go with god"

@Dover78 3 года назад

Isn’t “Goodbye” a contraction of “God be with you/ye”?

@francesco9281 3 года назад

@@Dover78 apperntly yes it is, I didn't know that haha. Well I guess most of western languages have the same way to say goodbye

@wertyuiopasd6281 Год назад

@@francesco9281 In French people say "Adieu" ; dieu= god. And it also means "farewell" or "farewell for ever" or literally : "to God" or "go with God". Italian and French are so closely related, yet they're still heavely indo-europeans.

@MegaMementoMori 3 года назад

This division of Poseidon and Zeus is quite interesting - in Mycanean Greece, Poseidon was considered as the most important God before the Dark Ages came along and allowed a power shift to happen.

@sarthak1109 3 года назад

Just like indra and vishnu .

@tamerofhorses2200 Год назад

What is your source for claiming Poseidon was the most important for Mycenaeans?

@MegaMementoMori Год назад

@@tamerofhorses2200 Check the Overly Sarcastic Productions videos - they have some neat videos about the evolution of Greek mythology.

@tamerofhorses2200 Год назад

@@MegaMementoMori I mean a properly academic source. Does Overly Sarcastic Productions cite actual archeological and/or linguistic evidence?

@MegaMementoMori Год назад

@@tamerofhorses2200 I am not writing academic documents but replying to a YT comment, so the source research standard is slightly lower. I think that such big and erudite channels would not resolve to taking facts out of thin air - at most they would pick one of the many different interpretations if there was a scholarly debate. But again - I do not link Greek mythology with my career, so this is good enough for me.

@nemes4932 3 года назад

One of the most important channels. Thank you for your work, Tom.

@svaroguaroslavovich6468 3 года назад

А вот и Унгерн подъехал

@wyrdflex5863 3 года назад

Nice avatar

@svaroguaroslavovich6468 3 года назад

@@wyrdflex5863 это барон Унгерн

@richb3802 3 года назад

An interesting and well put together video. Would be interested in learning more about the Indo-Europen Wolf Cult. Cheers Tom.

@TonyfromTO 3 года назад

Ive wondered if werewolf and berserkers came from wolf and bear clad warriors. I think assassins creed 2 made an interesting interpretation of roman wolf cults. id like to hear a pan-european or eurasian account.

@brettanomyces7077 3 года назад

I agree, would love to see him do a feature. These are so well put together and fascinating.

@richb3802 3 года назад

@Mr. A. Knight Thanks. I'll look out for it.

@TonyfromTO 3 года назад

@rgb Brown does this explain romulus and remus? Maybe a prototype?

@neptuno-martian1051 3 года назад

I thought Indo-Europe was just some irrelevant genetic concept. Couldn’t have been more wrong on that. Thank you

@jokester3076 3 года назад

It’s linguistic and cultural

@jacobhall7718 3 года назад

@@harim8716 No they came from the Pontic Steppe

@Michael_the_Drunkard 3 года назад

@@jokester3076 also genetic, even non-indo-europeans have some of their admixture

@minutemansam1214 3 года назад

@Who Cares? Specifically we come from the Ukrainian steppe or around that area. Black Sea to Caspian Sea. We may have been the first to domesticate horses.

@disorderedenthropy 3 года назад

@@jokester3076 And genetics. R1a is found in all indo Europeans, especially North Indians.

@maximilianusofmarchaorient596 2 года назад

A friend recommended this channel to me and I am very pleased with your work and passionate videos.

@feedYOURchildrenKORN 3 года назад

The quality of your videos only get better as time goes on! You truly deserve all of your patrons and more. It's unreal how incredible your videos are! When my children reach the appropriate age, I'm showing them ALL your videos.

@noahdanielg 3 года назад

Glad to see a new STJ documentary, always a joy! Hope to see some more on Guénon and Traditionalism on here.

@Vo_Siri 3 года назад

Damn, I knew Zeus was derived from Dyeus, but I never put together the Jupiter etymology, that’s fuckin wild.

@owlmaster1528 2 года назад

It is even spelled Dzeus...

@coollguyyyarzoo9095 2 года назад

@@owlmaster1528 r u christan?

@akiraasmr3002 2 года назад

and Jesus and Yahweh where based off of Zeus its crazy how much one is influenced by the other

@jacobandrews2663 2 года назад

@@akiraasmr3002 Jesus and Yahweh come from completely different mythologies. They originate from semitic beliefs in the levant, from a previously polytheistic pantheon.

@dylanroemmele906 2 года назад

@@jacobandrews2663 Jesus comes from, Jesus? Second, the original commenter is wrong and doesn't know what they are talking about, but somewhat right. Zoroastrianism heavily influenced Judaism and later, Christianity. While the Torah is as far as we know the closest we get to the original religion, everything written afterwards is directly influenced by Zoroastrianism.

@anibeto7 2 года назад

At 20:21 cattle sacrifices were offered to gods in ancient India, but it became so wide spread that there was no cattle left for farming, so the society restricted cattle sacrifices and in course of time cows became holy. That is the reason cows are worshipped in the northern parts of India, and cattle slaughter is banned across many places in India.

@uniqguy111 4 месяца назад

BS. Buddhism banned it.

@GaborSzabo747 3 года назад

Interesting. In Hungarian paganism (which is Tengriism) there is only one god, the Skygod, or Skyfather. His consort is Earthmother, their daughter is Tündér Ilona who is queen of fairies (tündér) and seems to be identical to Greek Helena Tunderos. Skyfather is the sun itself which travels through the sky at day on his horse pulled chariot. Pulling this chariot is heavy, so the horses sweat, this sweat falls down to Earth and creates morning dew. In mythology we have something similar to horse riding twin brothers. There were two brothers, Hunor and Magor who became the mythical archfathers of Huns and Magyars (Hungarians).

@MinecraftSons 3 года назад

I have observed great similarities with Tengrizm and Proto IE Religion. I dont know if Magyar Tengrism has a life tree but Turkic one has and belongs to the Mother Umay. Its interesting to see how similar the religions of the steppes are.

@MichaelLockardTV 3 года назад

Based

@user-ed9qu5im2y 3 года назад

Makes me wonder if they share an even older origin with the PIE mythology, or if there was some sort of cross-cultural influence long after the ancestors of Proto-Uralic and Proto-Indo-European people split off.

@matheuroux5134 3 года назад

@@user-ed9qu5im2y Well the steppe lends itself to cultural exchange. All of these steppe peoples have many overlaps.

@slickboxingidentityveritas1932 3 года назад

@@user-ed9qu5im2y I think it's cross-cultural influence most likely, but an older root branching off is certainty more interesting to me.

@oldnorth2666 3 года назад

I stumbled on a book today in a charity shop called Cossack: Warrior Riders of the Steppes. As I skimmed through the pages I was reminded of this channel and our nomadic horsemen ancestors who came from that region. Now you upload this, wonderful! Made my day.

@erikf.7696 3 года назад

On my mother's side, her Male lineage are descended from Cossacks, they had to leave Russia in 1930 because of filthy communism. I found it to be an interesting addition to my mostly Anglo-Scots heritage. While Western Europe was experiencing its prosperity over the hundreds of years since the renaissance, these brave warriors were holding the tides of steppe tribes at bay.

@darktyrannosaurus22 3 года назад

The Cossack lifestyle was and is very Indo-European. It makes sense because they also traditionally lived in the Pontic-Caspian steppe.

@erikf.7696 3 года назад

Very true. They have stayed in the land that our ancient ancestors lived in for thousand of years. They defeated and survived through many waves of foreign invasion...adapting to new military strategies over time to help defeat their enemies.

@zekun4741 3 года назад

I believe this is largely due to geography. Western Europe was largely made up of woodlands and large forests, which made it impractical for light cavalry, while Eastern Europe was and is largely open fields and steppe land, and lightning fast light cavalry, or what we could call proto-hussars, always dominated warfare in the region.

@erikf.7696 3 года назад

@@zekun4741 yes, if we look back into our recorded history of the region we can go back as far as Roman historians who noted the Sarmatians were very good cavalry men.

@maxmusashi7540 2 года назад

Thank you for your work. Most videos require more than one listen. Much appreciated.

@YoungOddo 3 года назад

Was talking to a girl and she sent me this. Shes a keeper 😎

@MilordGaming 3 года назад

Been waiting for this one!

@FortressofLugh 3 года назад

Great work

@lenardkennedy5522 3 года назад

Your videos are exceptionally intelligent, informative and so correct. You deserve a award.

@brentlichtenberg 3 года назад

This was very well organized, which made it much easier to follow.

@Akhen. 3 года назад

You've put so much interesting info into one big coherent video, it's simply amazing, i don't think anyone could compete with you!

@seankessel3867 3 года назад

Damn brother, it's about time! And thank goodness it was worth the wait.

@bensondavido4525 3 года назад

Great production. Not only is your research fascinating but your editing and sound design is of very high quality. I would like to request a video on Heimdallr. I was always fascinated by that god and his connection to the roman pantheon Janus and Apollo/Helios

@GriffinParke 3 года назад

Just re-watched this again and its still great. Can't wait for the next one.

@Yog-Sothothery 3 года назад

Another incredible production. I find videos such as these which delve into the absolute primordial origins of our people to be the most compelling. Based and, dare I say it, Evolapilled.

@Oakwise86 3 года назад

"Allfather" = "Father of all the Gods" It has nothing to do with hippy new-age thinking of Odin being some sort of universal deity for all races on earth.

@Survivethejive 3 года назад

exactly

@Squadwin 3 года назад

If he is father of all the gods, how can it be possible he isn't everyone's god? Or do you mean he is the father of all the gods of the info European gods?

@Oakwise86 3 года назад

@@Squadwin This is why we must return to a Pre-Axial age understanding, there is no ONE, LOGOS, MONAD. Nature/Multi-verse doesn't do ONE of anything. Everything is fractal, everything is many, numerous and eternal. For reasons unknown, there are many differences in humankind, races, languages and cultures. But all races have their perceived expression of their Gods. If we are guided by divine forces, they would likely want to be intimate and close to us, so they relate to us in our unique tribes, and nurture each specific tribe in the way they will be closest. Our "All-father" is the encompassing expression of our divine hierarchy. Our Gods serve us in the best way they know how, personally, tribally. Each race and tribe on this living world has their own guardians and divinity that shapes them. There is no ONE governing body in the multi-verse.

@Squadwin 3 года назад

@@Oakwise86 Why is everything fractal? The way I see it, as a scientist, everything seems to converge. Ancient Greeks, figured out that this "fractal universe" is made out of one thing, atoms. Hebrews and Persians arrived to the same conclusion but from a spiritual, not scientific approach. Everything can start from 1 fundamental thing (atoms) and still make up trees, seas, humans etc. I do understand what you're saying about cultures and gods being specific to them. I think it has its merits. But cultures change all the time. Then that would mean their gods would have to change. But aren't they eternal? It makes no sense in this way. The only way gods are eternal is if cultures are eternal.

@BaltimoresBerzerker 3 года назад

@@Squadwin Egypt attempted an eternal culture. Incredible how they managed to keep a relatively uniform culture across so much time! Clearly not an indo European example, but impressive.

@therealtulip 3 года назад

Wow, it’s been a long time since I listened to a RU-vid documentary with such rapt attention! Kudos!

@landofthesilverpath5823 3 года назад

I love this channel, so much great history here! Thanks for all the hard work, it's very inspiring.

@missnorthumbria3658 3 года назад

This gave me chills! Astounding Tom 😊 Thank you.

@kalypso9948 3 года назад

It is so fascinating to learn about proto-Indo-European, from which so many different people originated... It's like being part of a huge family! 😉

@eddiesid1149 3 года назад

We are.

@otterwithagun1982 3 года назад

Indeed. As a historian and one who is into genealogy... I can tell you that almost everyone, literally, is related. Why I say that wars are a civil/family war.

@kalypso9948 3 года назад

@@otterwithagun1982 So, every war is actually a civil war... That is even more cruel... And thinking about that, there are many myths about the killing of brothers, parents and relatives...

@nonofyebiz1205 3 года назад

... so many different GROUPS. We are still ONE People..😉💖💖

@PranabMallick. 3 года назад

@@kalypso9948 Well All came from Africa So yes! We are all Homo Sapiens

@jintermax1073 2 года назад

All hail the Sky father

@angelcathairs 3 года назад

You are an amazing creator! Very glad I found your creations

@ScentOfaNerd 3 года назад

One of the best videos on your channel. Keep up, this is outstanding!

@519forestmonk9 3 года назад

Fantastic video, and the music in the background is lovely. I usually find music distracting in videos like this, but this is wonderful.

@steakslapn9724 3 года назад

This was an awesome one. The way religion evolves over distance and time is so fascinating.

@pakshirajan8585 3 года назад

Dyaus is my Father, my begetter: kinship is here. This great earth is my kin and Mother. Between the wide-spread world-halves is the birth-place: the Father laid the Daughter's germ within it.

@parchment543 3 года назад

Really good video!! Much respect for repeatedly publishing new and informative videos for free and for always improving the filmmaking and editing. I’ve seen much growth and improvement on this channel and I can’t wait for this year’s Yule!!! :) 🎄 🕯

@stevethedreamerofdreams6444 3 года назад

What a great video. Thank you so much for the effort that went in to making it. And thanks to the Sky Father.

@Survivethejive 3 года назад

Thank you too!

@antonvarela3287 3 года назад

Very nicely documented and beautiful montage. Currently studying this vast topic at my university, it's fascinating. Keep it up

@OK-qg6ct 3 года назад

In Hawaii "Wakea" is the Skyfather that came down to earth and mated with "Papahanamoku" the earthmother. The couple is considered to be the parents of the Hawaii's Ruling Chiefs and the islands people. Mauna Kea is the tallest mountain in the Hawaii and actually the largest mountain overall in the world, standing at 33,500ft from base to peak. Mauna Kea is known to many Hawaiians as "Mauna O Wakea" or "Ka Mauna A Kea" meaning (Wakea's Mountain). Super cool video, very fascinating. Thanks for sharing!

@j0hn4th4nd03 3 года назад

Brilliant as always. Thank you for your work.

@banijska_krajina 3 года назад

In Slavic faith wolfs are connected to the sun god Dazhdbog.

@Stefanthro 3 года назад

My dear namesake, aren't wolves more closely connected to the god of the so-called underworld Veles?

@banijska_krajina 3 года назад

@@Stefanthro wolfs I think are seen as ancestors, and Dajbog is seen as the forefather of the Rus and Serbs, except that Dajbog is also believed to visit the underworld during night times.

@banijska_krajina 3 года назад

@@Stefanthro Bears and serpents are connected to Veles.

@Stefanthro 3 года назад

@@banijska_krajina Ahh ok, thanks for clarifying. Pozdrav

@banijska_krajina 3 года назад

@@Stefanthro no problem. Pozdrav

@anibeto7 2 года назад

At 18:53 the Ashvin twins are also mentioned in Mahabharata where they reincarnate as Nakula and Sahadeva.

@Sandesh_Gee Год назад

Aren't nakula and Sahadeva their sons? Rather than reincarnation

@anibeto7 Год назад

@@Sandesh_Gee Sorry my bad, they are there sons.

@shivkumar0810 10 месяцев назад

@@GyanTvAmitthey were sons. Of second wife.

@eclecticshopukltd 3 года назад

You sir. I could listen to all day. Loving this channel.

@fernwehn5925 3 года назад

Beautiful. As always, top notch content.

@nilsolofleif8886 3 года назад

Amazing video! Very immersive and enlightening! Thank you!

@thepatriot8514 3 года назад

Thanks 🙏 for looking out for us.

@eshuut9049 3 года назад

Another truly top notch content, thoroughly enjoyed this documentary. Thank you.

@user-eo3wg9tz4f 3 года назад

Please, do more of these kind of videos. They are Fascinating!

@alexswan2951 3 года назад

Among the ancient Slavs, the supreme god was called "Svarog". In Sanskrit, heaven is "svarga"

@phoenix1026 2 года назад

I always thought it was Perun?

@alexswan2951 2 года назад

@@phoenix1026 Perun is the god of thunder, lightning and the patron saint of warriors

@coollguyyyarzoo9095 2 года назад

@@alexswan2951 Atleast hindu have their own Ancestor religionn U all loose the same religionn due to Christianity

@alexswan2951 2 года назад

@@coollguyyyarzoo9095 in our territories who did not convert to Christianity - he died. Lucky for you, the Christians got to you very late. But Islam has hooked you

@coollguyyyarzoo9095 2 года назад

@@alexswan2951 yes pakistani convert to islam and guess now they hate their own Hindu 😂 they praise arab turk and love middle East People.. They think Vedas r bad religous book😂😂😂😂😂😂 India was mother of sprituality in past even lord Buddha born in hindu family.. This People forget their rich Heritage 😥😥😥😥😥😥 And same with People of iran 😥😥😥😥

@alexanderaflalo4128 3 года назад

This is awesome and very well done, brings me back to my old college lectures.

@aidan8342 3 года назад

Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thanks for your hard work

@riddickriddick9520 3 года назад

Yet another great video Tom!

@luketaylor3347 3 года назад

Incredible! Thank you for your work!

@EssenceOfBanana 3 года назад

The production quality here is superb.

@SJSALT 3 года назад

This is an amazing video, thank you so much!

@petemc808 3 года назад

Fascinating! Really enjoyed it! Came here from Twitter for a politics break.

@michaelmallal9101 3 года назад

Before Vishnu the leading god was Indra, a sky god. Before Indra leading god was Varuna, a sea god.

@moncynnaesuuard 3 года назад

@Rahul Stop mocking others Snob! he says that he means in history not mythology you understand that you cadger!

@proudsanatani6818 3 года назад

@Kumar Mohammad Do you support Aryan Invasion Theory (I don't).

@WitchHunterSiegfried 12 дней назад

@@proudsanatani6818Jive here did a great video on that.

@Tetonhiker007 3 года назад

Loved seeing the bit on Mt Lykaion; I worked on the site for two seasons and now much more what was found then makes more sense when I think about the sacrificial altar and the contents of what were found there.

@mustahsinrahman1523 3 года назад

Your video really sparked my interest in Proto-Indo-European religion and culture. What an amazing video, man.

@roccopraglowski8179 3 года назад

As an American dealing with the dumpster fire that is our election, I needed this distraction today. Thanks.

@c4call 3 года назад

I second this. On the upside, my wife gave birth to our second son, yesterday. Hail the Sky Father! One more indoeuropean son!

@DD-nu8jt 3 года назад

@@c4call Congratulations!!

@wyattwilbourne530 3 года назад

Check out Asha Logos as well. I highly recommend him. He's even better than The Jive in my honest opinion (not to put him down any)

@watcherspirit2351 3 года назад

Great information, careful analysis. Thank you.

@kingslanjohn 3 года назад

This is a great video Tom... fascinating stuff

@jamescorbin5638 2 года назад

So much information that I’ll have to rewatch.

@righttobloodydissent 3 года назад

Amazing video thank you for this refreshing history lesson.

@theredbeard6333 3 года назад

In Slavic mythology the sky father is Svarog the Blacksmith God that created Sun and he is father of fire god, he's Best allie is Perun God of Thunder and Perun's wife, Mokosh the Mother earth

@macchernac8922 3 года назад

Wasn't Mokosh depicted as a man and twin brother of Svarog that steals some golden sand of creation from Svarog hiding it in a tooth cavity and then spawning monsters and beasts from it after creation is set in motion?

@theredbeard6333 3 года назад

@@macchernac8922 @Mac Chernac I never heard of this story and I am a western Slav, in my part of slavic culture we see Svarog as a sky father who created Perun(eastern slavs) Svetovit(western slavs and Weles(eastern slavs) Triglav(western slavs) and they created the world the Mother earth. In western slavic culture we have two twin gods Lel and Polel who are sons of goddes Lada/Lela/Dzidzilela(goddes of Love and marriage) so it is hard to have an opinoon or to write something about what you heard.

@macchernac8922 3 года назад

@@theredbeard6333 I'm southern Slavic. In our folktales Perun is the ancestor of Slavs, his wife is Ognjena the hearth fire goddess, Svarog is his father and his wives are the Sun goddess Slava and Dawn star goddess Danica (the later also plays her part as one of the three goddesses that weave fate). Veles is viewed as a god of magic and trials, also as a brother of Perun. Mokosh is rarely mentioned besides the creation story for where he messes up by stealing from his brother and accidentally creates monsters. The only female goddess associated with the Earth is Morana who is mostly associated with burials and swamps instead of agriculture. She's depicted as a lover to either Svarog, Perun or Veles. I beleive we may have gotten some Greek influences mixed in there due to christianization but that's about the gist of it.

@theredbeard6333 3 года назад

To be honest I wish that Survivethejive would do more videos on slavic paganism, Polabian slavs, difference between western, eastern and southern slavs and also similarities, because he knows waaaay moooreee that any other historians

@macchernac8922 3 года назад

@@theredbeard6333 The problem we face with Slavic folklore is that we lack written sources. All though there were some runic findings last century they were mostly dismissed as fragmentary and ornamental. Then there's the problem that Communism presented with the elimination of all cultural traits not tied directly into it self. There was a cult of Xhors (one of the horse riding twins and a god of fire) that survived in western Ukraine all the way UNTIL Stalin ordered their extermination.

@lonewolfe1928 2 года назад

Good vid on the ancient ones filled some gaps. Always found the similarities of mythology interesting.

@na7698 3 года назад

Thank you for posting!

@TheKlecker1 3 года назад

RU-vid is not giving me notifications of your new videos posted. I already have the bell ticked for all notifications just an FYI. Thank you for your Content. Great information.

@Crusty_Cephalopod 3 года назад

That's sad

@frankkmallorca3230 3 года назад

So BULLFIGHTIN IN SPAIN, is a tradition of 6 millenialls and simbolices sacrifices to Father God, is done in an specific hour.. from around 19 hours when the Sunset ; and is done in all the villages as the most important day of each village, is an old, old reminiscence of the sacrifices to God Father.. Interesting aspect.

@CrazeeFy 3 года назад

So mexicans should sacrifice humans in a party too, since it's a part of an old tradition

@gestucvolonor5069 3 года назад

@@CrazeeFy as long as they start with you 🤷🏻‍♂️

@JesusMendoza-nz8pw 2 года назад

@@CrazeeFy and we sacrifice macacos too

@soiah 2 года назад

The original word is PITAR, and it did not mean farther, it implied it, because it means the bringer of pita( bread)

@soiah 2 года назад

Your intuition is right, but here is in short the truth( FROM THE RELIGION OF PELASGIANS your ancestors) Anu the God( who's reflection in our universe is sun) looked at mother Gea( earth) and thought of children, he struck then a boalder with Devine light(lightning) and created the first humans, and seeing them children rooming naively, struck the bolder again and created Mitra to be a teacher and guide for them. Later Mitra killed the solar bool and brought abundance to land and people... ultimately this is what Spanish culture preserves, a history 9000 years old.

@r_4027 3 года назад

absolutely fascinating, thanks for all the effort you put into your videos

@autobahnmensch 3 года назад

amazing video... changed my perception of a lot of religions and how they are connected

@therightreads1561 3 года назад

The temple complex shown at the very end of the video is the Ellora Caves, and the big building was the Kailash temple, the largest monolithic structure in the world. I’ve had the privilege of visiting there twice, and its amazing. Overall, killer video! Looking forward to more on the wolf-cult.

@oiausdlkasuldhflaksjdhoiausydo 2 года назад

Your videos changed my life. I went deep into the mythological rabbit hole and my worldview has changed.. for the better. Thank you so much. You really are doing the lord's (deus pater) work.

@DominicPandolfino-xu5ud Год назад

The Celts were Aryan.All Indo -Europeans were Aryans.,and vice - versa.

@plaguedoctor1544 3 года назад

Can't believe I put off watching your videos. I'm hooked! Buon lavoro mio fratello!

@Jumpoable 3 года назад

Most informative. Thank you Professor Jive. Subscribed!

@mateusoliveira9426 2 года назад

I'm Brazilian, and even not being an Indo-European culture, the Tupi people had a myth where twins "kûarasy" (sun) and "îasy" (moon) were feed by a female Jaguar (Îagûara in Tupi).