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@theghettoracle
@theghettoracle Месяц назад
I be feeling bad for Ernie😂All he wanted to know was how many MVP's will Luka win in his entire career. Chuck went on a whole rant about the current MVP race🤣
@cader350
@cader350 Месяц назад
Chuck doesn’t listen to questions 😂😂😂
@TheBlackSands
@TheBlackSands Месяц назад
I dont because it was a trick rascist inappropriate question to start with we are not choosing your race over ares ever .
@StarryNight4024
@StarryNight4024 Месяц назад
Luka has been the early MVP favorite the last 5 years and still hasn't won 😂
@user-nv1gm2zj7y
@user-nv1gm2zj7y Месяц назад
chuck is talking about mavs aint a powerhouse which is why he wouldnt have mvps.
@autogamezz9999
@autogamezz9999 Месяц назад
@@TheBlackSandsseek therapy
@khalilcruz5816
@khalilcruz5816 Месяц назад
Shaq the only one answered the question. The other two didn’t answer Ernie lol
@mexreax4493
@mexreax4493 Месяц назад
Its always like that
@thundercats2004
@thundercats2004 Месяц назад
And I agreed with Shaq's answer. At some point Luka will win an MVP, or at least he should. But it won't be this year
@loststoryproductions
@loststoryproductions Месяц назад
One! Lol
@jumpinjohnnyruss
@jumpinjohnnyruss Месяц назад
If these guys made more sense, they'd be less entertaining.
@khalilcruz5816
@khalilcruz5816 Месяц назад
@@jumpinjohnnyruss this is true lol alot of dumb people like stuff that’s confusing or don’t make sense lol on the internet. I mean chuck says dumb shi all the time and they love him to death 💀
@GeauxDoe
@GeauxDoe Месяц назад
Chuck: “We don’t vote for MVP” Ernie: “I do”
@smoshuser123
@smoshuser123 Месяц назад
Ernie’s casual “I do!” When Kenny said they don’t vote for mvp slid way too under the rug
@kolydeshop5864
@kolydeshop5864 Месяц назад
Ernie is a sly guy
@BboyZoinks
@BboyZoinks Месяц назад
🤣🤣 The god father
@SEHLENREISE
@SEHLENREISE Месяц назад
i heard it loud and clear - godfather
@mikewill4839
@mikewill4839 Месяц назад
Ernie had something to do with that nash mvp vote 😂
@Qdawwg
@Qdawwg Месяц назад
Shaq still salty steve nash lives rent free in his head 😂😂😂
@AHMAD-2324
@AHMAD-2324 Месяц назад
BOISTOP Steve Nash couldn't carry Shaq's jockstrap.
@harderway8568
@harderway8568 Месяц назад
No, Shaq's absolutely right. Joker got the MVP, deservedly so, while the Nuggets ended 6th. Curry's carrying a bunch of random guys and is playing some really great basketball, but won't be in any conversations because the GSW are simply trash. Antman and SGA are wonderful of course, but I don't put them over Luka. This year yes, but overall - no.
@adeadele-nz6xt
@adeadele-nz6xt Месяц назад
​@@harderway8568yall stop with the curry carrying BS hes no where near mvp convo this year . Joker, sga, tatum , luka one of dis 4 guys winning mvp
@jbaruman272
@jbaruman272 Месяц назад
THIS
@wayneegli8379
@wayneegli8379 Месяц назад
Nash deserved 1 of his 2 MVPs (2005 for 2004-2005 season). Kobe deserved it in 2006 but was still on double secret probation for his 2003 indiscretion. Shaq deserved MVP in 2001 and 2002 (he was MVP in 2000). Nobody was stopping Shaq from 1999-2002.
@ntrong32
@ntrong32 Месяц назад
Shaq's the only one that understood the question. What a time to be alive.
@morganlee2806
@morganlee2806 Месяц назад
Ernie was asking a very simple question.😂
@waltz9530
@waltz9530 Месяц назад
Luka has officially become underrated
@thialhoinj1971
@thialhoinj1971 Месяц назад
Facts
@hackrjack
@hackrjack Месяц назад
Cant play defense. And theyre asking this loaded question about him winning multiple mvps, thats not underrated at all.
@leonhardable
@leonhardable Месяц назад
​@@hackrjackwhat a surprise, the man with the suns pfp is a full on casual that hasnt watched a game this season truly a miracle
@blicleak1101
@blicleak1101 Месяц назад
@@hackrjackof all people you speak about Luka after what he DID to you? That was probably the worst defeat in NBA history
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 Месяц назад
how so everyone call him a top 5 player
@MarkPerchatsch
@MarkPerchatsch Месяц назад
Mavs are probably a 30-52 team without Luka Doncic. I don’t think any player in the league is more important to their teams success right now.
@Jordan-lg7xx
@Jordan-lg7xx Месяц назад
Maybe jokic but that's about it
@joemilo2710
@joemilo2710 Месяц назад
Jokic is definitely the most impactful and important player because it's been proven every season that without Jokic on the floor Nuggets are the worst team in NBA history, not just now!
@lukasklein5230
@lukasklein5230 Месяц назад
I agree, without Luka Mavs are right down there with the spurs, hornets and wizards...also it doesn´t make sense to look too close on the team records, because a good team records means often a good team effort, it doesn´t tell you how valuable a single player for the team is
@malusintsele
@malusintsele Месяц назад
Jokic and Embiid
@MoonIronTR
@MoonIronTR Месяц назад
embiid was leading 76ers to 3rd seed now they are 9-19 without him
@Nightcrawla7
@Nightcrawla7 Месяц назад
Ernie out here doing gods work man. Bless that mans heart.
@Manou-tf8dx
@Manou-tf8dx Месяц назад
Blasphemous statement on so many levels
@rohanshah7559
@rohanshah7559 Месяц назад
Only cuz you standing on the wrong levels
@ELjediLOCO
@ELjediLOCO Месяц назад
Charles Barkley- LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING!
@MateMagyar88
@MateMagyar88 Месяц назад
“First of all…”
@SuperNASCARrocks
@SuperNASCARrocks Месяц назад
Multiple MVP’s. Luka is a special talent.
@davidgaskins2589
@davidgaskins2589 Месяц назад
7th seed this year.. no playoffs last year
@icydaddy
@icydaddy Месяц назад
@@davidgaskins2589 what year did jokic win his first ring?
@StarryNight4024
@StarryNight4024 Месяц назад
How is he going to win when he is always predicted to win but doesn't because he can't lead his team out of the West?
@aliali-ce3yf
@aliali-ce3yf Месяц назад
1 MVP , he's the white James Harden.
@TheBlackSands
@TheBlackSands Месяц назад
Ant man is a special talent wemby is a special talent stranger 👍💯
@luispeixoto2827
@luispeixoto2827 Месяц назад
Shaq is taking that Steve Nash thing to the grave 😂
@gista00
@gista00 Месяц назад
Funny thing is that there were like 8 other players before him in voting so it wasn't just Nash who beat him. :D But in Shaq mind he was close second. :)
@mops515
@mops515 Месяц назад
I actually kinda agree with Shaq here about MVPs. The whole point is you're looking for the *MOST VALUABLE PLAYER* It's silly to believe that person can only be on a winning team because a well structured team with lots of depth could win without someone, while a team 5th or 6th that doesn't have the same depth might be carried by one great player. You tell me which scenario makes the player more "valuable"
@jdankerdake
@jdankerdake Месяц назад
That's the age old debate.
@umont13
@umont13 Месяц назад
How valuable can you be if your team can’t be top 6 in record or you never make conference finals appearances.
@nikhileshnatraj331
@nikhileshnatraj331 Месяц назад
its because the way the award has been doled out, it always goes to the best player on one of the best teams in the league. Look at Chuck: he should have won one MVP with the sixers especially in 89-90 season, but his team was never great. He went to the suns, put up lesser numbers than he did with the sixers and he got mvp. Same thing goes with jordan etc. Right now the Mavs arent a good team, and that is hurting Luka
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 Месяц назад
​@@nikhileshnatraj331 Luka also doesn't add much value to his team defensively which is like half of the game, at least it should be. I know the NBA gives all the advantages to the offense. Not saying Luka is a poor defender, but he is not adding the same value as some of the great bigs on defense who are also great offensive players. Really Embiid would have run away with the award if he could stay healthy.
@onlyfacts3178
@onlyfacts3178 Месяц назад
@@nostalgicbliss5547 why ??? EMBIID was just averaging 0,6 points more than LUKA and with a lot of rigged FT attempts and resting games... LUKA is creating plays making triple doubles while scoring.. And dont even come with the DEFENCE lie... SIXERS team is good so good that the beat DALLAS without EMBIID and last season beat DENVER without EMBIID...
@user-jb6lp6bu7b
@user-jb6lp6bu7b Месяц назад
im with Shaq on this
@CornVidds13
@CornVidds13 Месяц назад
The fact that they feel Timberwolves dont hve a better team than Mavs is insane
@italo_scemo9202
@italo_scemo9202 Месяц назад
Yeah their whole argument was “Mavs have a better number 2 guy in Kyrie”. Yeah but what about number 3, 4, 5, 6…😆
@CornVidds13
@CornVidds13 Месяц назад
@@italo_scemo9202 exactly I’m sitting here like .. they act Kyrie on your team means automatic championship .. so why doesn’t he have 9 rings 🤦🏾‍♂️
@JohnSmith-rr3jt
@JohnSmith-rr3jt Месяц назад
Shaq is absolutely right about MVP being a singular award. Should have nothing to do with your team, except your teams win-rate with/without you.
@JeremyCuddles
@JeremyCuddles Месяц назад
Chuck doesn't like to project. He mostly thinks in the now. You never ask Chuck these kinds of questions. Lol. If Dallas ever gets good, he can win multiple MVPs. I don't think Ant wins over the other MVP front runners. Joker, Tatum and SGA are ahead. By a decent margin. Doncic's numbers are borderline cartoonish, but they are 8th. It's fascinating to see.
@alinoori6780
@alinoori6780 Месяц назад
Luka is deserving of multiple in his career
@CoachRJ334
@CoachRJ334 Месяц назад
What's deserving in your opinion don't be a fan be an evaluator ....
@joshahlstrom2764
@joshahlstrom2764 Месяц назад
@@CoachRJ334he would probably be the MVP this year if they’re a top 5 seed, or at least 2nd behind Joker. The only thing keeping Shai ahead of him is the fact that OKC has so drastically exceeded expectations. He’s only 25, at some point I expect the Mavs will have a season where they figure things out and get a top 3 seed and he wins MVP. It could happen though once or multiple times.
@StarryNight4024
@StarryNight4024 Месяц назад
"Deserving"? What has he done to earn that type of praise? Respect is won, not given.
@MichaelSevilla97
@MichaelSevilla97 Месяц назад
​@@joshahlstrom2764true his team is a 2nd round team at best ✌️
@ladanian560
@ladanian560 Месяц назад
@@StarryNight4024he’s averaging 35-9-10 the only reason he’s 4th on the ladder is bc his team is the 8th seed and not top 2 like Jokic Giannis and Shai
@SteveStevenson-ux8sr
@SteveStevenson-ux8sr Месяц назад
say what you want about shaq as an analyst but he's always been spot on about the mvp discourse, absolutely ridiculous how much the voters value team success over actual individual performance.
@MaldingMan13
@MaldingMan13 Месяц назад
tho hes definitely wrong about just 1. Luka will win multiple mvp awards. dude can go out and average 35 a night and near a triple double. IMHO he should be the mvp right behind Jokic, with SGA and tatum right there too. Shaq dont know that Ant Edwards is a better 2 way player than Luka tho and people need to put some respec on his name lol
@Neofilmcritic
@Neofilmcritic Месяц назад
That’s the dumbest idea ever. You are not a valuable player if your team is bad
@StarryNight4024
@StarryNight4024 Месяц назад
The amount of credit voters trying to award Luka for achieving NOTHING is insane.
@patrickmacasaet3493
@patrickmacasaet3493 Месяц назад
​@@MaldingMan13 all due respect to Luka and I love the guys game, I think Shaq might be right purely because of the politics of the league, he really has to do something miraculous and WIN like Chuck and Kenny mentioned in multiple seasons, it's unfortunately the makeup of the NBA the way they choose their MVP, only 1 of the professional sports who deems their MVP that way
@alisteroidthecheatertestos964
@alisteroidthecheatertestos964 Месяц назад
Do you not understand what makes an MVP? A player who elevates and makes the team better but also being valuable in their own way. Steve Nash brought a suns dead to rights to the 1st seed back to back seasons, Russell Westbrook averaging a triple double with a terrible thunder team to the 6th seed. D Rose who brought the bulls to the top seed. It’s a trend. Luka in no way should be MVP with all of the pieces around him and he’s at the 8th seed. Stop it. Luka has a better team now then Russ did in 2017 and Russ had them in the 6th seed.
@JcbJcbJcb14
@JcbJcbJcb14 Месяц назад
Have to agree with Shaq on this one, "it's singular" and even if Minnesota comes in 1st in the West, Anthony Edwards is not better than Luka and more deserving of the MVP.
@udishomer5852
@udishomer5852 Месяц назад
Anthony Edwards is also not more valuable than Jokic or SGA. He is currently ranked 9-10th in the MVP race.
@zacgrasl4229
@zacgrasl4229 Месяц назад
CHARLES HE IS NOT ASKING THIS YEAR! HE IS ASKING HOW MANY WILL HE WIN IN HIS CAREER
@kimo9728
@kimo9728 Месяц назад
It is quite literally a statistical fact that Luka is at WORST the 3rd best player in the league at the moment. The narrative of him being terrible at defense needs to die considering his vast improvement making him an actual serviceable defender. Luka has by far suffered the most from key teammates being out (Kyrie, Lively, even Exum) compared to the other MVP candidates and that's shown by the Mavericks having the most amount of unique starting lineups in the NBA this year. I agree that team record should be a factor to some degree to prevent players on actual bottom-tier teams from winning the award, but definitely not to the point where one HAS to be at least top 4 in their conference, context matters.
@makhabzaranamane6869
@makhabzaranamane6869 Месяц назад
Luka is a terrible defender. Luka ain't no MVP if he cant lead his team to wins. They've just had aa terrible run where most of his teammates have been available. I'm as a big a Luka fan that you'll find but there's things he doesn't understand that's leading to losses that I'm sure he'll eventually figure out and thus collect MVP's on the regular. No doubt as a talent he's the best in the league at the moment, just has to learn how to win games. It would help if he had a competent coach but he doesn't.
@piwi2775
@piwi2775 Месяц назад
watch the recent games. His defense cost them the game. Why do you think the best players keep attacking him? Why so you think mavs are ranked last in defense??
@SDesWriter
@SDesWriter Месяц назад
Westbrook won on a 6th place team. They just decided to change the metrics because he's so much better than everyone else on offense. If it wasn't for Joker he would be the most dominant offensive force in the league since Jordan.
@makhabzaranamane6869
@makhabzaranamane6869 Месяц назад
@@SDesWriter Harden was putting up godly numbers not so long ago so calm down.
@SDesWriter
@SDesWriter Месяц назад
@makhabzaranamane6869 no he really wasn't. He had two big seasons and he got those numbers by doing a move that's now illegal in the NBA and thst's to fake a shot, then jump directly into the defender in order to get to the free-throw line with no intentions of making a basket. Look at his free throw numbers from those two seasons and then divide them in half and see how many Godly points he got....
@SkepticSkye
@SkepticSkye Месяц назад
So Essentially Luka should be punished for having an average team with a horrible bench and poor coaching. Shaq is right, it is most valuable PLAYER, and Shaq should know, he's seen this before...
@marko4713
@marko4713 Месяц назад
That's not how it works lol, your team has to be winning... why do you think LeBron only started getting MVPs from 2009 onwards, despite carrying the cavs since pretty much day one??
@Steamedhams578
@Steamedhams578 Месяц назад
But the people who actually vote for MVP never vote for players below 4th seed so it doesn't matter what Shaq thinks.
@NattyCaddy
@NattyCaddy Месяц назад
⁠@@marko4713you’re right. that’s not how it works, but it’s how it should work. a guy shouldn’t win mvp over someone who is clearly better and has been better for their team, just because his team is better overall.
@marko4713
@marko4713 Месяц назад
@@NattyCaddy i love luka i think hes a generational talent who will definitely win at least one MVP but he has to involve his teammates more. hes hogging the ball too much and just a few points up or down on his FG% can be the difference between a win and a blowout loss for the mavs, more often than not they end up losing because of it. its frustrating to watch for any mavs fan i imagine
@NattyCaddy
@NattyCaddy Месяц назад
@@marko4713 i do agree, but their roster overall isn’t that talented. he doesn’t necessarily make many bad decisions, but he drains the shot clock which leads to bad shot selections. he either takes a bad shot because the time is running down, or passes it to someone who isn’t open. he’s just gotta learn to create open looks for himself and teammates quicker. he misses a lot of shots due to the shot clock so i think his efficiency will rise if he plays at a slightly quicker pace.
@naparqalria
@naparqalria Месяц назад
I don’t understand how chuck and kenny value team standing so much in their mvp discussions. I’m with shaq on this. Russ won mvp and thunder was 6th in the west that year. Russ was ballin and deserved the recognition that year.
@astheskylarksings
@astheskylarksings Месяц назад
The NBA coach of the year is rarely the coach with the best record. The MVP ain’t the best player award; it’s the most valuable player award. I’d love to see both awards
@jesuschrist-wc3rh
@jesuschrist-wc3rh Месяц назад
it's different story every year . if they don't like the guy they will change the criteria , they voted nash over kobe because of colorado . they voted embiid last year because he was black meanwhile kareem won mvps with losing records 50 years ago . there is 0 consistency with the regular season mvp award and it's the most fraudulent award in the nba .
@astheskylarksings
@astheskylarksings Месяц назад
@@jesuschrist-wc3rh boo 😒
@ooh4751
@ooh4751 Месяц назад
@@jesuschrist-wc3rhyou right but Kobe lakers was also like 7th or 8th in standings. Shoulda went to tim Duncan honestly
@James_Blazer
@James_Blazer Месяц назад
The MVP debatte is probably the best discussion topic in sports history. You never get tired of it with your friends for hours
@FeralFresse
@FeralFresse Месяц назад
Hopefully Luka gets one more than shaq
@Mirrale
@Mirrale Месяц назад
The production value of their graphics is amazing. Kenny’s hair almost looks real
@grant1739
@grant1739 Месяц назад
I get tired of hearing about the MVP race every year
@spidaman2475
@spidaman2475 Месяц назад
So Scott Pollard got his heart? ❤
@meyao8987
@meyao8987 Месяц назад
Why doesnt ernie and the TNT crew interview the most expertise person on what MVP actually means and what do the voters really look at for shaq and the rest of the guys to finally find out what it is. TNT U GOTTA DO IT
@johnnybrown81
@johnnybrown81 Месяц назад
Shaq gonna argue and be wrong errytime 😂
@hooimiin
@hooimiin Месяц назад
If you choose between 2 teams, winning team have 5 good players and losing team have a elite team up with below average player, then the elite player don't deserve credit for keeping their team in competition if lose by few points?
@plokplok307
@plokplok307 Месяц назад
This is the problem with players who is good from the start they will take you for granted even youre very consistent
@atraina6921
@atraina6921 Месяц назад
I see what Chuck and saying and I’m the biggest Luka fan, but it feels like these last few years he’s been the MVP front runner but team’s seed has not been very high. They need to do something about this if he’s going to win multiple.
@Animal_Channel
@Animal_Channel Месяц назад
Y'all debating who the MVP when's there's one clear choice, Joker!!
@realamerican8069
@realamerican8069 Месяц назад
Ant man or Tatum
@shinigami5947
@shinigami5947 Месяц назад
​@@realamerican8069really Tatum...really...ant man still not on that level...he is great too...
@killuafan4365
@killuafan4365 Месяц назад
​@@realamerican8069 dawg, Tatum isn't that guy. Ant is a much better candidate. Tatum just sinks, that warriors loss is proof of that. That finals, do you honestly think Luka or Ant will sink the way Tatum did?
@dhruvshah7952
@dhruvshah7952 Месяц назад
they argue about this every single year and its funny every time LOL
@hooimiin
@hooimiin Месяц назад
My understanding is that MVP is the best player regardless of the team result.
@galiojusticejustice3191
@galiojusticejustice3191 Месяц назад
I actually agree with Shaq, there's no way Ant should get MVP over Luka
@greatsisyphus7712
@greatsisyphus7712 Месяц назад
no one answered the actual question :D
@khalilcruz5816
@khalilcruz5816 Месяц назад
Shaq did wym he said 1 soon as Earnie asked
@loststoryproductions
@loststoryproductions Месяц назад
Shaq answered like 3 times lol
@rahowherox1177
@rahowherox1177 Месяц назад
Best and most valuable aren't always the same thing.
@Spoonky92
@Spoonky92 Месяц назад
4:10 those where some tiny shorts back then 😂
@thepiratepenguin_
@thepiratepenguin_ Месяц назад
Poor Ernie, he just wanted a simple answer to his question.
@tau_nurse_eyeballing
@tau_nurse_eyeballing Месяц назад
"glad to see you well".
@patrick05Morgan
@patrick05Morgan Месяц назад
Chuck saying that comparing Luka and Anthony Edwards is like comparing apples to oranges is insanity. Yall just ride with Charles no matter what because you don’t like Shaq’s ring argument.
@rohitaasberi
@rohitaasberi Месяц назад
MVP is singular
@ssk58607
@ssk58607 Месяц назад
How? It’s most valuable lol how are you valuable if your team is losing? There’s only value in winning, hence team standings should always matter
@videogames9829
@videogames9829 Месяц назад
I agree, you wouldn't want someone on a team that won just 10 games taking home mvp@@ssk58607
@gongshowjimmy557
@gongshowjimmy557 Месяц назад
​@@ssk58607Idiot. Luka is more valuable to his team than people like Anthony Edwards. If you remove Luka from Mavs, they're one of the worst NBA teams of all time.
@jesuschrist-wc3rh
@jesuschrist-wc3rh Месяц назад
this is the problem with the most fraudulent award in the nba aka the regular season mvp . it's always a different criteria one day nash wins it over kobe while averaging 15 points because he's top seed and another day jokic wins it as a 6seed because he has good stats. well which one is it? nba should just revamp this award or just get rid of it and make it a all of season mvp award (including playoffs)
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 Месяц назад
Too many fools share the same opinion as you when in reality it never works that way unless that team is really poor and that one guy able to get them enough wins to be a relevant team. Just like Russ did in 2017 with Morrow, Roberson, Kanter, Adams, Singler while dragging them to that 6th seed; and Jokic did without Jamal on that 2022 season (before Gordon & KCP got there) and also dragging them to that 6th seed. That's the only cases I can think of where such anomaly happened. Other than that, it's pretty much players with great stats and/or impact to their teams while that team ended up being a higher seeds (1-3 seeds).
@rohanshah7559
@rohanshah7559 Месяц назад
This bit is actually just ernie discretely asking the squad who he should vote for this year
@mohamedwazwaz9626
@mohamedwazwaz9626 Месяц назад
I agree with shaq on this, it’s an individual award. It shouldn’t have to do with how well they’re team is doing.
@norieltan9908
@norieltan9908 Месяц назад
MVP. Is how your MVP player effecting winning. Simple as that. Shaq- always talks about individual, winning mvp is never just an individual awards. Its how your MVP player impact his stats and winning in both ways. Many superstar caliber and many all star caliber. Which is determined by its stats and marketability. Mvp is individual stat + impact to winning. Is the Most valuable player in producing Wins for the team. My opinion: mvp convo is jokic, antman, tatum, sga, mitchell,
@isaiahdevillier9947
@isaiahdevillier9947 Месяц назад
Based on this years mvp race, the nba should really take a step back and look at this thing, is it a best player award or a best player on a winning team award? There should be no reason why Luka does not win mvp, he’s the best player in the world, putting up insane numbers, but Tatum is over him because of his teams record, the mvp award voting process needs to be evaluated
@udishomer5852
@udishomer5852 Месяц назад
The actual MVP race at the moment is: 1. Jokic 2. SGA 3.Giannis Luka and Tatum are fighting for 4th spot Ant is maybe 9-10th.
@MoonIronTR
@MoonIronTR Месяц назад
everyone can statpad in bad teams like kevin lowe in wolves or brad beal in wizards
@369pendulum
@369pendulum Месяц назад
Kobe won 1 MVP. You Luka fans are really annoying. Stop crying.
@folag
@folag Месяц назад
All the emphasis on naming a particular player discourages the unselfish teamwork that's essential to really good basketball. Instead of trying one's best to help the team win, the MVP-seeking player is motivated to pad his stats.
@merrekeste3385
@merrekeste3385 Месяц назад
I think 1 or 2 MVP agree with shaq but also agree with chuck mavs needs 2 be top 4 for that 2 happened
@TheDenac
@TheDenac Месяц назад
Pretty sure Chuck was trying to say he doesn't see the team getting good enough in the future for Luka to get enough MVP votes. Why people saying he didn't answer?
@jdankerdake
@jdankerdake Месяц назад
That perspective lacks foresight. Luka is 25. He can be among the league's best players for the next 7-8 years. A lot can change on rosters in that time.
@TheDenac
@TheDenac Месяц назад
@@jdankerdake while that is true, assuming he stays in Dallas I don't think it's that crazy to say. Dallas has not been the greatest in acquiring talent and Luka will keep them good enough to not get great draft picks. He's playing with Kyrie who's known to be great next to a ball dominate type player and they still aren't winning enough games
@Broodjemetbeleg
@Broodjemetbeleg Месяц назад
@@TheDenacLuka aint staying around another 3 years if nothing changes.
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 Месяц назад
​@@TheDenac Kyrie has missed a lot of games with injuries. I think Dallas will be dangerous in the playoffs if Luka and Kyrie are healthy and the rest of the role players learn to play a lick of defense lol
@joshahlstrom2764
@joshahlstrom2764 Месяц назад
Ant winning MVP, Chuck can’t actually be serious with that. He’s got to just be tired
@antmj2335
@antmj2335 Месяц назад
If he holds the #1 seed and averages 35 a game for a straight month with his defense he played tonight. Absolutely
@joshahlstrom2764
@joshahlstrom2764 Месяц назад
@@antmj2335 big If. He’s a great player but I don’t see that happening. What I could see more likely happening is the Wolves falling behind the Clippers in the standings and still being a top 4 seed.
@realamerican8069
@realamerican8069 Месяц назад
@@antmj2335facts! Ant man is a better player offensively and defensively!
@jalynjones9136
@jalynjones9136 Месяц назад
@@joshahlstrom2764 thats definitely whats gon happen kat is a big loss
@jalynjones9136
@jalynjones9136 Месяц назад
@@antmj2335 ur definitely a delusional wolves fan even if he did average 35 for a month straight which he won’t he’s still not winning mvp
@platinumpengwinmusic5564
@platinumpengwinmusic5564 Месяц назад
Well, there's 4 1/2 minutes I can't get back.
@Moistcheeks1
@Moistcheeks1 Месяц назад
I think he'll get at least 1 probably 2. He's that good on his own. For his team to be better, Luka has to get more of the team involved and trust them to make shots.
@user-kn4ky4hg7h
@user-kn4ky4hg7h Месяц назад
Most valuable player is based on the player having the best performance that elevates his team Nash earned his two M V P awards.
@lovinglife419
@lovinglife419 Месяц назад
The missing factor for Luka is leadership. He doesn’t have that quality yet.
@NBAyyy
@NBAyyy Месяц назад
Shaq has changed his opinion on Luka so much. He used to never give him any respect so interesting to see Shaq actually defend Luka here
@BombJahlaam
@BombJahlaam Месяц назад
This convo just goes to show how deep the west is. Sheeesh!
@albondigas9764
@albondigas9764 Месяц назад
In theory it should be harder to win mvp on a winning team, unless you single handedly carried your team having a better team around you means you are comparatively less valuable not more.
@alexcamp9320
@alexcamp9320 Месяц назад
Title should be “Ernie asks how many MVPs Luka will finish his career with while the other guys debate something entirely different.”
@tamimghadban4792
@tamimghadban4792 Месяц назад
Only Shaq answered Ernie’s question!
@88walka
@88walka Месяц назад
Chuck has a point but at the same time he has to play that way..I don’t think it’s good or right to blame your teammates…but watch the recent Celtics game he was getting people open looks and they were missing so he started taking it into his own hands..and when they subbed him out I think it was the second quarter…the mavs just unraveled and after two offensive possessions they had to bring him back in..most valuable player? Yeah not a question…Tatum is doing amazing but his team does good when his out..SGA is a beast but his team does fine when he’s out.
@RhapsodyinGlue
@RhapsodyinGlue Месяц назад
A simple hypothetical question about the future of Luka's mvp race descended into complete chaos for no reason. THAT, my friends, is why NBA on TNT is sooo far above the competition. Accidental Fluidity born from GOAT chemistry.
@X5J2UY
@X5J2UY Месяц назад
I am with Shaq on this one. Especially compared to Minnesota. Luka is at least 1-2 levels above Ant-Man at this point. But Minnesota have a better 1-5 and work better as a team. Kyrie is special, but he is hurt a lot and his skill set doesn't complement Luka as well as Kat and Gobert do Edwards. Other than Jokic, Luka is the second-best player in the West right now.
@julienr.6254
@julienr.6254 Месяц назад
That's the worse you can do in life. Focusing on the what ifs or what might be. There is simply no such thing. There is only now and what is. Try and focus only on the now as it's the only way to make the best out of the little time you're given on this Earth
@fplfieco22
@fplfieco22 Месяц назад
Luka with these numbers is a lock for MVP in future years if he gets and 1, 2 or 3 seed. Otherwise he won't win it baring a low seed NBA championship win in the previous year. There's almost to in between even though his numbers are just getting better and better
@KGanza
@KGanza Месяц назад
I agree with Shaq here. MVP is most valuable PLAYER ie the player who was most valuable
@hoodiepen
@hoodiepen Месяц назад
To answer Ernie’s question 😅 at least two MVPs for Luka.
@brachpaone1895
@brachpaone1895 Месяц назад
shaq can just never accept being wrong
@PeaceFan1
@PeaceFan1 Месяц назад
NO ONE is Playing BETTER than JOKER This Year..PERIOD!!!!
@RealSerie26
@RealSerie26 Месяц назад
NBA and Chuck have the right idea. The team needs to be a contender. In MLB, anyone can get MVP. Mike Trout has 3 and the Angels were contenders in none of those, oftentimes they would finish dead last in their division. That tells fans: the Angels could not have gotten to last place without Trout. SMDH.
@justiekavena5369
@justiekavena5369 Месяц назад
I’ll say 2 but there’s so much talent in the league Tatum, Shai, Victor, ANT, etc could win one too so he’ll have competition
@jpmay5503
@jpmay5503 Месяц назад
Ernie: “how many mvps do you think luka will win throughout his year” Chuck: “if Minnesota finishes with the best record” brother just answer Ernie’s question man😭😭
@bmar180
@bmar180 Месяц назад
I don’t think Chuck nor Kenny paid attention to Ernie’s question 😂
@hrvojemastelic6935
@hrvojemastelic6935 Месяц назад
Shaq’s actually right on this one
@hwoodford6399
@hwoodford6399 Месяц назад
Luka is a very very good individual basketball player, winning qualities..not so much.
@jakereinhardt7312
@jakereinhardt7312 Месяц назад
Gotta agree with Shaq on this one
@mario98730
@mario98730 Месяц назад
In 2022 Luka was 4th in the West and came in 5th in MVP voting behind Booker. So I think it's safe to assume that at SOME point Luka will be a top 3 seed and win MVP, if nothing else because he's never won one. But if he keeps playing like he does, to Chuck and Kenny's point Luka will never be a high enough seed to even really be in the MVP conversation. The only times a low seeded player won the MVP was when Joker and Russ basically averaged a triple-double as the 6 seed. And I do think Luka has improved as a playmaker, but he still has more to go
@leonglover6377
@leonglover6377 Месяц назад
No one answered the question but Shaq for 2 seconds. Luka can win at least 2 yes if his team is in a better position. But if we do look at it as individual award it be between Luka, Joker, LeBron and Joel
@shandagod7462
@shandagod7462 Месяц назад
I agree with Shaq MVP is who the best fr
@garethpearce5255
@garethpearce5255 Месяц назад
I really struggle to understand exactly how the MVP is decided, everybody seems to have a different criteria. It seems agreed that try need to have a make impact on the team winning. Surely all you need to do is look at the record of when they are playing vs when they don't play? Why does it matter where on the table the team is? If your remove Luka, how bad is that team? Pretty bad. If you remove SGA, how bad is OKC? They're still pretty good. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@DemonetisedZone
@DemonetisedZone Месяц назад
Most Valuable Player not.. Most Valuable Player On A Winning Team Best player usually plays in the winningest team but not always
@RevoZtuns
@RevoZtuns Месяц назад
Russ won MVP when OKC were 6th seeds, albeit historical numbers averaging a trip dub
@edwin3813
@edwin3813 Месяц назад
Most valuable player can also understood as most important or impactful player of that league. Without Luka, Mavs would have been bottom 3.
@AK2372
@AK2372 Месяц назад
Luka is actually elevating his team like no other player other than Jokić. He has Kyrie and a bunch of role players who never won anything. And it's not like he's on a lottery team. Dallas is 7 games over .500 and 2.5 games behind the 5th seed. If they are a top 6 seed by the end of the year, he should be a top 3 candidate with Jokić and SGA, followed by Giannis, Tatum and Ant. The idea of Tatum being ahead of Luka just because he has an All Star lineup and a better system around him is crazy. People are overcomplicating the term most valuable player and are getting caught in the team success too much.
@GreilMerc7
@GreilMerc7 Месяц назад
I know Shaq is in disbelief about the Joker MVP. They could not fathom giving 3 MVPs straight to a guy who at the time had not won a Finals at the time. Last I checked this is a regular season award. I fully agree if Anthony Edwards closes out the regular season as the #1 seed and does it without KAT he has to at a minimum be in contention for it. We also have to see what Tatum and Boston do over on the Eastern Conference.
@NicoNico-79797
@NicoNico-79797 Месяц назад
An MVP should carry a franchise to conference finals
@austindouglas9513
@austindouglas9513 Месяц назад
These guys a knuckle heads. The question was in his career. My god.
@richardbastidas3671
@richardbastidas3671 Месяц назад
60/40 sliding scale towards Shaqs point
@hangsu6261
@hangsu6261 Месяц назад
Mvp should be about the player not the team, team wins games not only cuz of one single player, they might lose because of one single player or person, but winning, it’s about getting everyone right, that’s why winning is so much harder then losing
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Месяц назад
THE LEAGUE!!! EVERY TEAM has an "MVP"!! IT'S NOT "Good player with worst teammates"!!
@floofington
@floofington Месяц назад
“An all-star is singular. The MVP is of the league”….is that still not singular Kenny?
@Get483
@Get483 Месяц назад
Mvp is an individual award chuck come on
@hayatoochiai1642
@hayatoochiai1642 Месяц назад
Shaq's answer was 1. He still mad about Nash's 2.
@browneyez8600
@browneyez8600 19 дней назад
I think MVP Dpoy All NBA teams All NBA def Should all include winning as The last factor But specifically for mvp 1. numbers being 1 2. Teammates : how many all star caliber players are on your team 3. Team record in total as well as Plus minus with and without you on the court. 4. Cannot be below 5th seed in your conference The MVP should always be someone in the playoffs and each individual star may be at different points in there career. My top 3 MVP 1. Jokic Top 4 seed team. To me most effective center in the NBA amongst bigs who can score. Definitely has a great #2 guy especially based on past playoff performances but he is the only perennial All star on the team at this point. Outside of Luka no one else's overall #s come close 2. Luka The overall team is not great on offense so his #s support that they need him to put up these #s. You could make the case he is the best pg in the NBA. Kyrie is a great scoring talent but is an overall great player. Definitely a great second option but not MVP caliber so far don't think his presence on the team hurts Luka case to possibly win MVP 3. Ant-Man He has been to a couple playoffs and this season the team has matured to where they can be first seed. They have played well without townes and considering townes only been to the playoffs with Jimmy or Edwards as Dogg's clearly he is #1 guy. They don't posses many individual scoring talents on the team and they score off defs to limit half court off. He is two way player. Of my top 3 to substitute passing his defense makes up for it. He aa well could win Considered players Tatum To me he has to much scoring talent around him now with portzingus added. He needs to win a finals with this team and next yr I'd say he should be odds favorite next yr Embids Miss to many games Shai From historical team perspective If you haven't lead a team to at least 3 Playoff to the first round I don't think it's fair to compare you to guys have had more consistent team success as lead dog. This is his first playoffs so I'll pass Greek Individual #s great team guaranteed to be top 4 seed , but I'm seeing a lack of leadership and ability to rally the team around him
@stefandurbaba
@stefandurbaba Месяц назад
Ernie needs a raise
@davidramos3410
@davidramos3410 Месяц назад
Luka is more cold blooded than any of the mvp candidates. He’s a monster with mamba mentality
@Reggie_J
@Reggie_J Месяц назад
2:54 Gil Wya 🤌🏾🤦🏾‍♂️
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