@Godmachine 999 If I understood right the conflict with Mustis is that he wanted more credit for the orchestral stuff he put in. He did all the creative work to make albums sound the way it did and he got the credits the same as Vortex and Silenoz/Shagrath the substantially bigger amounts. He thought there was an off-balance in crediting (which is very usual inner conflicts with bands that start to make profit). Well, he seemed to be fired soon after that as Galder, Silenoz and Shagrath form their own camp during ISD that took control on everything and left others outside. It's kinda their right, but you know, quite tyrannical. And as Mustis' influence on band's music started to really grow as he was part of every best known song of Dimmu Borgir and their modern sound. To keep the band and profits to themselves, it's better to smoke the guy out, profit from him and make mediocre albums with the name they created with him and play his songs. This is very cynical perspective and probably not very true, but the way Mustis is irreplacable is that he started to become lawfully way too big in composing rights. He started to become bigger and more important member than any other in the band. Even though Silenoz/Shagrath/Galder were mostly the composing trio that made the framework of the songs, the real meat, virtuosity and sound of DB needed at the time, came from Mustis and drummers at the time (Nick Barker, Hellhammer). He was kicked and credits were diminished and there was a legal conflict. Mustis composed Dimmu Borgir's the most famous songs 'Progenies of the Great Apocalypse' and was part of 7 out of 11 songs in DCA. He was part of 7 out of 11 songs in PEM, 'Fear and Wonder' by himself. But you can't find accurate crediting information on ISD, for some odd reason or all songs are composed by Shagrath, Galder and Silenoz or simply "Dimmu Borgir". Mustis seems to be totally discredited from the album altogether with Vortex, reducing their role to just musicians that played on the album. Although Vortex is an artistic and light-hearted personality and quirky in his own terms (I have once met him and briefly thanked him for the show with Arcturus, you can sense that he's a comedic personality) and he seems to be a guy that doesn't take work too seriously. And probably is also prone to bad habits like drinking and smoking. I'm not sure how they tried to deal with his work ethics and attitude, but Vortex seemed to be protesting against over-commercialization of Dimmu Borgir and the albums after DCA/Stormblåst MMV weren't as vivid and musically grand opuses like before. And he also sided with Mustis. Even though he said that recording all that orchestral parts were genuine pain in the ass, the band kinda missed it's point when they started to make albums with lesser budget, more streamlined and more commercial/friendly to non-black metal listeners. With money went the attitude. And Dimmu Borgir never was the same, when the fame and respect created a void in band's chemistry, convincing that some guys must be smoked out and focus all the profit on the three managing personnel of the band. If they wouldn't have done that, given Mustis his credit he deserved, kept him in the band and stayed on the road to make music not for the label or pleasing the crowd, but for the art, they still would be as kickass as before; not a cheesy Nightwish-rip off with growls.
The most amazing live performance Dimmu Borgir ever had!!! So many years past, still can hear the music of the band. Regretfully missing the soul this era had..Hail to beautiful music hail to Dimmu hail to Norway's way in this world! HORNS IN THE AIR !! EPIC !!!!
they need to get back together just for this one song, remake it in the best quality, and sell that single song on one cd. it will be the best symphony in existance and of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, dreadful angel of mine Enrich me with the vastness of your being Rigid father, teach me how to comprehend I'll commit myself to understand To be faithful puppet
I'm into a lot of extreme subgenres of metal (Drummer) but I don't consider myself a black metal dude, everytime I think of Dimmu though I think how much of a loss it was Nick leaving, I think Hellhammer was a fantastic drummer but Nick really captured the right drum style and feel for Death Cult Armageddon. Vortex Mustis and Nick were a golden trifecta that brought so much to Dimmu, amazing musicians.
He has a solo Album, I personally love it to death but is very prog rock with a little bit of black metal guitars and folk. Nothing close to Dimmu Borgir.
Definitely the best on spiritual black dimensions, but in my opinion heavenly perverse is their best song, blessings upon the throne of tyranny and unorthodox manifesto up there with them (as well as the insight and the catharsis).
Ah the revolving drummer days lol reno was the fastest Tony the craziest/fastest, Barker the fan favorite (mine too)the most creative, hellhammer the most technical&cant forget jodalv the most grounded
It's funny that the comment you replied to claims that this style is HellHammer's and cannot be replicated, but it's Tony Laureano and not HellHammer lol
@Arcturus420 true but Simen and Mustis have been in the band for 11 years and really? are u going to replace 2 amazing musicians thats already been recognize.....i mean if they left after 2 years when they joined Dimmu then it will be ok but now?????? if Shagrath and Silenoz left then man i would be more angry then when Vortex and Mustis left......but they should of sticked with each other cause its a normal thing....were human beings and we argue, Shagrath should now that, especially mustis..
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Hmmm, seems like Galder is out on the first solo. Good thing Silenoz wrote it himself, so he could take over :p
This was the exact moment of their prime. But I always prefer their album's versions due to much higher quality of vocals. Especially for Shagrath. His live performances suck, especially after 2010. He always hide in his easy mid-ranges. But this here is the best live version I could find of their best song. And im not surprised its after the release of Spiritual.
@Arcturus420 especially mustis because Mustis is to young to understand that the thing he was arguing about was foolish and should of been resolve instead of sending him a txt message that hes fired....its complete bullcrap if u think about it
what the fuck!? get a cool little guitar solo and someone thought despite the multi-camera footage lets just have a near-still clip the bassist basically holding the bass. I guess by the Vortex/Simon fans in the comments this was a good move. 90s Norwegian black/extreme metal was known for the excessive lead guitar wankery, why bother filming it?
@Arcturus420 I disagree actually. The members of Dimmu at the moment have become money hungry; drunk with power, if you like. In my opinion, I'm expecting to see a downfall
wayyy too fast and tony fkd everything up on the drums big time lmao for someone boasting about how hard he tried to play the parts right ha!epic fail here
Why is that every awesome band Vortex is in, it goes to shit?! Nice to hear Lamented Souls will come back. But without Mustis or Vortex in this band? Dimmu may as well be a sorry ass Emo band; they're nothing!
