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The Internet's Darkest Corners 4 

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Darkness can be found in all corners of the internet. Here are just a few examples.
Topics Explored:
- Flight 1141
- Snapchats from the Sky (Connor Quisenberry and Timothy McKellar)
- English Teacher Luke (Luke Rockwell)
- The Disappearance of Hu Xinyu
- Debra Stevens 911 Call
MUSIC USED:
Spirits of the Mist from Silent Hill 2 - • Spirits Of The Mist
Village Ambient Church from Outlast 2 - • Outlast 2 Soundtrack -...
Wedding from Darkwood - • Darkwood OST - Wedding...
Crystal Cola by White Bat Audio - • Retrowave 80s Vaporwav...
The Beginning of a Nightmare from Silent Hill 4 - • The beginning of a nig...
Witch from Darkwood - • Darkwood OST - Witch -...
Prisonic Fairytale from Silent Hill 2 - • Silent Hill 2 OST - Pr...
Penumbra by REPULSIVE - • REPULSIVE - penumbra [...
Rising Sun from Silent Hill - • 07. Rising Sun - Akira...
Man in the Woods by Monst3r Music - • Man in the Woods | Dar...
We’re Not Alone by Monst3r Music - • We're Not Alone | Dark...
Starvation by Repulsive - • REPULSIVE - Starvation...
302 by Repulsive - • 302
Abyssal Void by Monst3r Music - • Abyssal Void | Dark Am...
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Flight 1141
7:35 - Snapchats from the Sky
13:00 - English with Teacher Luke
19:22 - The Vanishing of Hu Xinyu
28:23 - Debra Stevens 911 Call
I do not condone the harassment of any individuals or groups mentioned in this video.
The information, opinions, and perspectives provided in this video are for general, educational, and entertainment purposes only. The video delves into true crime investigations and other dark mysteries. It contains content and images that some viewers may find graphic and disturbing. Viewer discretion is advised. The video uses fictionalized dramatizations and recreations to create and enhance a compelling entertainment narrative and may not always depict real events exactly as they occurred. When using real names, we strive to adhere to privacy and ethical considerations and rely on publicly available information and facts in the public domain.
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Комментарии : 6 тыс.   
@ryannilsson6504
@ryannilsson6504 2 месяца назад
The fact that the 911 operator was laughing her ass off while the caller was drowning is very sickening and the fact that she faced no repercussions is infuriating
@domoetker3967
@domoetker3967 2 месяца назад
blm
@mystik8177
@mystik8177 2 месяца назад
@@domoetker3967 what does that mean?
@ryannilsson6504
@ryannilsson6504 2 месяца назад
@@mystik8177Black Lives Matter
@ceilingfan3589
@ceilingfan3589 2 месяца назад
​@@mystik8177black lives matter
@ceilingfan3589
@ceilingfan3589 2 месяца назад
​@@mystik8177black lives matter
@dripskylark6054
@dripskylark6054 2 месяца назад
Imagine if that instructor had been paying real attention to the weather ahead of time instead of dunking on a kid for internet points. They might still both be here today. It's pretty tragic
@unknown11215
@unknown11215 2 месяца назад
Fr
@brendanboomhour7606
@brendanboomhour7606 2 месяца назад
Clearly, that moron was horrifically unqualified to be a flight instructor, had they survived, he'd deserve to get the boot from that job
@gLobbZ
@gLobbZ 2 месяца назад
Well at least he doesn't have to be up at 4AM
@dripskylark6054
@dripskylark6054 2 месяца назад
@@gLobbZ Damn I didn't even think about that lmao
@omnitravis
@omnitravis 2 месяца назад
he was also still very much a kid, lol. 22? 4 years older? When I saw that I laughed. Such a dickhead.
@lilygoatdemon
@lilygoatdemon Месяц назад
Debra crying and apologizing to Donna for snapping at her because she's so scared, and then asking her for her name and thanking her for being with her....that really gets me in the gut. That poor woman.
@oki__
@oki__ Месяц назад
Honestly, she should’ve hung up on the dispatcher and called again for another operator, or asked to be put through to someone else. -Although I understand she probably didn’t want to hang up in such a desperate situation. Her family seem to have the same roll over and ‘go where the wind blows’ attitude not sticking up for her so can’t really blame her individually for having no voice.
@yendevus1747
@yendevus1747 Месяц назад
Spending your last minutes talking to a Shaniqua 😭😭 if there is hell it's on this planet
@moppupaws
@moppupaws Месяц назад
@@yendevus1747 pfp checks out
@ommsterlitz1805
@ommsterlitz1805 Месяц назад
29:43 again a proof that name have fate behind it "Donna New water" Reneau
@leaharayahu1983
@leaharayahu1983 Месяц назад
@@yendevus1747Asian woman named Shaniqua.
@deankilminster5430
@deankilminster5430 2 месяца назад
I've been a firefighter for 18 years and I've never been so sickened by a dispatcher before. That woman should never work again, anywhere. I wish there were some criminal charges that could be Levied against her. What a scumbag.
@princeofcupspoc9073
@princeofcupspoc9073 Месяц назад
It sounds like the family is too forgiving to push for a civil suit.
@Gseyjcjdsthbcsdujcc
@Gseyjcjdsthbcsdujcc Месяц назад
unfortunately there were never any charges filed or any sort of action taken whatsoever. The department she worked for has even defended their decisions to not do anything.
@RJFP67
@RJFP67 2 дня назад
Some people who cannot swim are severely afraid of water. How the 911 operator berated and ridiculed her while she’s panicking was wicked not helpful.
@Theendbeginsagain
@Theendbeginsagain 2 месяца назад
The fact that Debra remained so sweet and even apologized to that horrendous monster of a dispatcher…. There is a special place in hell for such a cruel person
@stevewenzel3798
@stevewenzel3798 2 месяца назад
In what hell? Look what people do to Others. WE live in the hell.
@availxe8639
@availxe8639 Месяц назад
hell doesnt exist, but she will die eventually so theres that.
@oscarisaksson4809
@oscarisaksson4809 Месяц назад
​@@availxe8639how do you know?
@oscarisaksson4809
@oscarisaksson4809 Месяц назад
Hell doesnt exist?i rather believe there is a hell for people like her than a heaven
@FemboyLegendGD
@FemboyLegendGD Месяц назад
@@availxe8639 not the interent atheists : DDD
@AwakeningHikari
@AwakeningHikari 2 месяца назад
The last video makes me physically ill. To have Debra just stuck with no hope drowning and Donna being the last person to talk to is such an awful way to go. I’m sorry but Donna telling someone to shut up when she’s literally on the verge of drowning is absolutely disgusting. I wish Debra never had to go through this fate.
@gh0ulee-b0nes
@gh0ulee-b0nes 2 месяца назад
@ShaunaC-sh1vdhuh???
@modestmismagius105
@modestmismagius105 2 месяца назад
​@ShaunaC-sh1vdtf are you on about
@casper5669
@casper5669 2 месяца назад
ShaunaC-sh1vdbros onto nothing 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
@iamthetable8131
@iamthetable8131 2 месяца назад
​@ShaunaC-sh1vdStop drinking the Kool Aid lil bro
@Bigshrimps
@Bigshrimps 2 месяца назад
Wtf has diversity go to do with what the commenter said?? She’s just saying she wishes that Debra didn’t have to drown, diversity has nothing to do with that, you made no point whatsoever! 😂
@RolyWestYT
@RolyWestYT Месяц назад
The last woman is absolutely heartbreaking! The fact nothing happened to the emergency responder is also insane! How you’d could say SHUT UP even if it is your last shift it’s not like you work in a supermarket…
@MindyGhost
@MindyGhost 16 дней назад
Omg hi roly, I didn't expect to see you here. I watch a lot of videos like this, and that last story really affected me so much. My heart is so broken for Debra! She was so grateful and kind to the dispatcher and got treated in the most cruel way in return. How could she not have 1 shred of empathy in that position. Omfg
@AnimalBlundetto
@AnimalBlundetto 11 дней назад
You’re bald
@DanielG23604
@DanielG23604 Месяц назад
Donna wouldn't be laughing if she were on the other end of that phone call. No job should ever hire an emotionless, cruel and complacent individual. RIP Debra
@macaryl95
@macaryl95 Месяц назад
She seems like a smart, collected woman. She wouldn't ignore warnings of a flood over work. What sensible person does that?
@postl3
@postl3 Месяц назад
⁠@@macaryl95No. but she fails completely at being an emergency dispatcher. What sensible person does that?
@mustardman1040
@mustardman1040 Месяц назад
⁠@@macaryl95Yes, because a smart, collected and sensible individual laughs at another person who is terrified they’re going to drown, and tells them to shut up. Have some empathy.
@unaesthetic.mp4499
@unaesthetic.mp4499 Месяц назад
​@@macaryl95okay but maybe have some dignity for the human life that was lost? she was telling this woman to shut up while she was dying. Imagine that being the last thing said to you before you die an extremely painful death.
@macaryl95
@macaryl95 Месяц назад
@@unaesthetic.mp4499 Well I'm not the one driving through flooded streets with prior warning.
@TheKnightDrag0n
@TheKnightDrag0n 2 месяца назад
"English teacher moves to Thailand", Yeah I know exactly where this is leading to.
@thomasj.foolery7025
@thomasj.foolery7025 2 месяца назад
I posted the exact same thing before reading other comments. 😂 So typical.
@HippoMustache
@HippoMustache 2 месяца назад
Right?! Whatever is stronger than a red flag, that's the only way to describe that situation.
@Stang2023
@Stang2023 2 месяца назад
SNL nailed it years ago.
@sewwfffyhjijui
@sewwfffyhjijui 2 месяца назад
It was obvious. Also it's the girls fault for getting the STDs.
@wilhelmdietz4023
@wilhelmdietz4023 2 месяца назад
I was thinking the exact same thing
@lucasdefrance9153
@lucasdefrance9153 2 месяца назад
The 911 operator didn't deserved to be forgiven. She didn't have remorse. She's totally heartless ..
@jasonvargas7564
@jasonvargas7564 2 месяца назад
It should have been her in the car, not Debbie.
@vaszgul736
@vaszgul736 2 месяца назад
@@jasonvargas7564 I can only hope she has nightmares every night the roles are reversed- but unfortunately that would require she had any amount of humanity and empathy in her..
@kam2894
@kam2894 2 месяца назад
@@jasonvargas7564i’m not religious but if I was this would seriously make me question my god edit - i did not mean to start any arguments, please stay respectful and remember we are talking about a woman who lost her life!
@Lawbringer.
@Lawbringer. 2 месяца назад
@@kam2894 dont question god, question humanity
@MeCooper
@MeCooper 2 месяца назад
​@@Lawbringer. I'm pretty sure humanity made god up to justify their BS
@Gamerplush17
@Gamerplush17 2 месяца назад
Hearing Debra screams is genuinely one of the most chilling things ive ever heard and the 911 operator mocking her makes it even more insidious
@Phoebe5448
@Phoebe5448 Месяц назад
God, I couldn't listen the second time, it was genuinely horrifying knowing what Debra was going through. One of my worst fears. I hope she's free from pain now and is resting happily wherever she is. That poor woman.
@annieb4199
@annieb4199 2 месяца назад
I live about an hour away from Forth Smith, Arkansas. Donna, the 911 dispatcher is actually a POLICE OFFICER there now. The whole situation is insane.
@88mpoole
@88mpoole Месяц назад
I could believe it.
@marielux7372
@marielux7372 Месяц назад
Are you serious
@berrifies
@berrifies Месяц назад
disappointed but not at all surprised
@riversongsmelody
@riversongsmelody Месяц назад
😢
@Ben-yz7sx
@Ben-yz7sx 11 дней назад
I live in little Rock
@ItsRoronoaZoro
@ItsRoronoaZoro 2 месяца назад
The way Mckellar acted was absolutely disgusting. If he had been as thorough as Conner then maybe things would've been different. Its a shame honestly.
@PHOENIX2001
@PHOENIX2001 2 месяца назад
i think its because it being her final shift, that she really didn't give two f's about the outcome.
@gennielinara2356
@gennielinara2356 2 месяца назад
@@PHOENIX2001 it was a guy and it wasn’t their last shift. It literally mentions he has to be up at 4:30am the next day.
@conks13
@conks13 2 месяца назад
@@PHOENIX2001 i think youre confused, this isnt the 911 call
@conversionstudy3128
@conversionstudy3128 2 месяца назад
Always walk away if you feel rushed during any sort of inspection before flying / buying. If the person is hiding something, they behave deviously.
@luftballonzz
@luftballonzz 2 месяца назад
no fr the whole time I just kept repeating "fuck that guy," total egotistical asshole
@texsion
@texsion 2 месяца назад
911 having an active argument with somebody in flood waters about to die is crazy 😭
@superrazor7617
@superrazor7617 2 месяца назад
Donna:the water just didnt appear
@vipr1142
@vipr1142 2 месяца назад
I dont know why the first two are in the list.. Poor woman tho, felt sorry for her
@destaniedillard1001
@destaniedillard1001 2 месяца назад
I know 😢
@DawnMeow
@DawnMeow 2 месяца назад
@@superrazor7617omfg literally fuming at that!!! Does she even know what a flood is!?
@talentkid234
@talentkid234 2 месяца назад
I want to know why it took 12 hours for them to find her
@quinn2826
@quinn2826 2 месяца назад
I’m from Arkansas. I remember when that 911 call happened. It was on the news for weeks after. I was a child. This was scarier than any horror movie or Halloween costume ever was. I remember laying in bed at night, putting myself in her position. Scared for my life, fear of water, it’s dark and I’m scared and the only person who could help me… was making fun of me. Terrified me to my core. I still think about it fairly regularly, including every time I’m driving while it’s raining. Her screams haunt me
@MatthewHyder-hr8ux
@MatthewHyder-hr8ux 19 дней назад
Damn, that's horrible. :( I live in Arkansas now, but only recently in the past few years... used to live in Texas. :p I wish the operator could have enough guilt over her actions to know that people aren't just furious at her, but people like you even got traumatized as a child over it... evil woman. :(
@_feii_1568
@_feii_1568 2 месяца назад
I was tearing up when she started yelling "I can't breathe"
@macaryl95
@macaryl95 Месяц назад
George Floyd vibes
@Passageofsky
@Passageofsky Месяц назад
​Without the robbing a pregnant woman​ part @@macaryl95
@kimyo000
@kimyo000 Месяц назад
@@macaryl95 Oh ok
@YenesisTua
@YenesisTua 27 дней назад
@@macaryl95except she wasn’t on fentanyl
@chinsaw2727
@chinsaw2727 8 дней назад
⁠@@YenesisTua If George was on Fetanyl, he wouldn’t be able to speak. Also, he was being detained for an alleged counterfeit note.
@PepperOnPatty
@PepperOnPatty 2 месяца назад
Imagine becoming an instructor but refusing to deal with any students that are less than perfect
@mariec3527
@mariec3527 2 месяца назад
Right , it's like he wants something for nothing
@fatcat1
@fatcat1 2 месяца назад
Came back to bite him in the ass
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 2 месяца назад
The entire point of being an instructor is to instruct people who aren't perfect in the field, hence why they're taking lessons in the first place and are awkward about it. That dude somehow never realized that perfect students are supposed to be rarities, not the norm.
@chaf1067
@chaf1067 2 месяца назад
​@@joshuakim5240this explanation is giving him credit but in truth
@PugLover9955
@PugLover9955 2 месяца назад
As I did see in this story there was ominous weather, and with the student still becoming experienced to soon be getting his pilot license, and having the stress of an apathetic instructor, I shudder to think that there might have have been safety protocols not taken because the young student had that hanging on his shoulders the foul attitude of a mentor. Tragic 😔 🙏
@fedup4365
@fedup4365 2 месяца назад
Poor Conner, his instructor making fun of him in his last moments when he was just trying to learn. So heartbreaking for that boy’s family.
@dingo1666
@dingo1666 2 месяца назад
Also I think it was brilliant that he checked the plane so thoroughly. Even Ry-an.Air doesn't check before a flight any longer. Just a quick turnover, not even cleaning inside. That young man was a proper Pilot, the 'instructor' was the dud.
@tongpoo8985
@tongpoo8985 2 месяца назад
It's extra depressing when it happens to such a bright young person. The kid had a dream, a clear vision of what he wanted his future to look like, and he was pursuing his passion earnestly. That is something that very few people can say. I can't stand when it happens to someone like that.
@bbym1313
@bbym1313 2 месяца назад
That hurt my heart 😢
@levinaurgoax
@levinaurgoax 2 месяца назад
That McKeller spent his time posting on Snapchat instead of properly mentoring the lad. The egotistic maniac took with him an aspiring pilot who only wanted to learn. That's heartbreaking, really.
@fedup4365
@fedup4365 2 месяца назад
@@levinaurgoax very much so 😞
@ren6591
@ren6591 2 месяца назад
The kid was just trying to learn and this dude couldn't even do his job right.
@babieejayy914
@babieejayy914 2 месяца назад
My jaw literally dropped when you said they found her 12hrs later. That poor woman’s last moments were filled with fear and laughter from someone who was supposed to help and comfort her
@artemperesada3454
@artemperesada3454 Месяц назад
Her story breaks my heart
@TimothyZann
@TimothyZann Месяц назад
​@@artemperesada3454I think this story is ru-vid.comVnAZWSLsH3s?si=eTX9wmPfxNwDXhSD
@princeofcupspoc9073
@princeofcupspoc9073 Месяц назад
I appreciate the sentiment, but unless your jaw has been physically detached from your head, it did NOT LITERALLY drop.
@postl3
@postl3 Месяц назад
@@princeofcupspoc9073🤓🤓🤓
@giselle_kvm
@giselle_kvm Месяц назад
Shut up. It's a hyperbole ​@@princeofcupspoc9073
@luftballonzz
@luftballonzz 2 месяца назад
I get that 911 operators have to be calm and collected during a call, but jesus christ that lady had no empathy for that poor woman. Genuinely hope she never manages to live that down, considering her face and name are all public.
@purplekey9330
@purplekey9330 2 месяца назад
If she hasn't apologized by now, that makes it clear to me she doesent really care. Its just sickening...
@moimoi2994
@moimoi2994 2 месяца назад
Well...she didn't get fired. She's probably still being a demon to people in need.
@djentlover
@djentlover 2 месяца назад
How does a sociopath get into this work position?
@llCoupDEtatll
@llCoupDEtatll 2 месяца назад
I kinda got it at first, like, that the caller freaking out was using up her oxygen, but then that operator just went nutso. What a psycho
@spartacus2650
@spartacus2650 2 месяца назад
​@@djentloverbecause most law enforcement officials are psychopaths or one step beneath a psychopath.
@Tea-KW
@Tea-KW 2 месяца назад
Nick, this is possibly the first video i havent been able to finish of yours. Youve covered some awful and horrible circumstances but the 911 call from Debra Stevens is possibly one of the worst audios ive heard in my life. It's horrible that the 911 operator didnt face repercussions for how she acted, and i cant listen to the whole audio youve included knowing it's of a woman who was dying. RIP Debra Stevens Thanks for bringing light to these, and for everyones sake i hope there is a day where there is no more new incidents like this
@christiannrrr
@christiannrrr Месяц назад
As someone who watches these types of videos religiously and is typically kinda desensitized to stuff like this I 100% understand where you are coming from. That 911 call genuinely made me uncomfortable. That is a real phone call with a distressed woman legitimately pleading for help while her life was on the line... halfway through the audio I Googled Debra Stevens and realized she passed and I had to pause the vid. I can't even describe the feeling I had, it was nauseating but I was also extremely angry with the operator. I can't believe Debra's family forgave the operator, shows what kind of people they are. if that was my family member I couldn't even imagine how I'd feel.
@Tea-KW
@Tea-KW Месяц назад
@@christiannrrr same. I consume a lot of true crime so i'm used to listening to 911audios/seeing videos of those who have passed. But this was truly the only time I couldn't listen to the entirety of a call. Debra deserved better in the end and I hope her family is doing as well as they can.
@asdfghjklkjhgfdsa15
@asdfghjklkjhgfdsa15 Месяц назад
The last one really disturbed me, I couldn’t help but cry.
@SeverelyBurntToast
@SeverelyBurntToast 2 месяца назад
Hu’s case is really scary. Knowing that the whole campus is covered by cameras, yet he wasn’t caught on any of them before leaving, and the fact that shoelaces most likely wouldn’t hold a body for that long makes the whole story feel super unsettling and disturbing.
@mogadon7
@mogadon7 2 месяца назад
Luke - teacher. The age of consent in Thailand is 15; so what is the problem here.
@miraculoustales3491
@miraculoustales3491 2 месяца назад
​@@mogadon7you're replying on an unrelated. They are talking about Hu's case not the Teacher Luke one.
@Maverynthia
@Maverynthia 2 месяца назад
@@mogadon7 Said like a real pedo
@crazyluigi6664
@crazyluigi6664 2 месяца назад
@@miraculoustales3491 Yeah, this comment is about a potential conspiracy theory within the Chinese government of sorts at one of the biggest middle schools in history, not about a sex offending teacher with multiple STDs.
@p-ttyb-tch
@p-ttyb-tch 2 месяца назад
@@mogadon7 you should be on a register 🙏
@Ash-yu2cj
@Ash-yu2cj 2 месяца назад
Debbie was so kind to the 911 operator even as she was dying. She kept apologizing over and over, even though she did nothing wrong. That’s genuinely one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever heard. She died feeling like she was a burden to someone who was supposed to be doing their job.
@jillturner9263
@jillturner9263 2 месяца назад
She should’ve asked for someone else. It may have saved her life.
@PugLover9955
@PugLover9955 2 месяца назад
​@@jillturner9263So sad 😢 🙏
@sammiej.5526
@sammiej.5526 2 месяца назад
Especially the family forgiving the rude operator. It shows how Debbie was brought up. To be kind :((
@S4NSE
@S4NSE 2 месяца назад
​@@jillturner9263sadly the operator somehow didn't care but also didn't care to hang up
@S4NSE
@S4NSE 2 месяца назад
​@@sammiej.5526true, at least the public doesn't forgive this devil
@unbotheredsis1934
@unbotheredsis1934 17 дней назад
“i can’t breath” that broke tf out of me. this might follow me all my life 🤦🏽‍♀️
@korissasilver7041
@korissasilver7041 2 месяца назад
Everytime I come across Debra’s story I cry 😭 it’s just so horrific
@driprubies2464
@driprubies2464 2 месяца назад
That poor woman! Not only did she drown she got treated horribly by that operator
@rsookchand919
@rsookchand919 2 месяца назад
Listening to that 911 call fills me with rage. If that was my mother in that car, I’d want revenge
@mimik222
@mimik222 2 месяца назад
Yeah Donna would have to get some teeth knocked out or something like wtf is wrong w her
@crazychase98
@crazychase98 2 месяца назад
​@@mimik222 yah the cops came out later an said had the lady not went nuts she would have survived. The water neevr went above the top of the car. She lost her shit an downed instead of using survival instinct.
@talentkid234
@talentkid234 2 месяца назад
Why did it take them 12 hours to find the car?
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 2 месяца назад
..... Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@preachercaine
@preachercaine 2 месяца назад
@@crazychase98 You can hear the cop in the video, when they found the car, saying the only thing visible was the roof. The car was submerged
@seaglitter9944
@seaglitter9944 2 месяца назад
i am so absolutely heartbroken by the last one. literally cried while i listened to that woman dying and the fucking dispatcher couldnt even fein empathy. what an absolute demon, i hope it haunts her.
@spartacus2650
@spartacus2650 2 месяца назад
It doesn't. Psychopaths don't feel haunted for doing that
@deliriousmusicality8840
@deliriousmusicality8840 2 месяца назад
​@@spartacus2650right, well I hope the death threats work.
@Sly-Moose
@Sly-Moose 2 месяца назад
She def going to Heck that's for sure!
@munkayttaja6913
@munkayttaja6913 2 месяца назад
Let's hope she get's street justice
@Trexguy1717
@Trexguy1717 2 месяца назад
@@deliriousmusicality8840 so i went down the rabbit whole debras case it turned out they got 100s of death threats
@FrostRare
@FrostRare Месяц назад
McKeller was tryna flex on Snapchat to his female friends “look at how smart I am” type
@kelechi_77
@kelechi_77 Месяц назад
and now he's dead
@Cheetahlover
@Cheetahlover 2 месяца назад
The whole thing about Hu Xinyu is really sad to me that people just started making things up but really he was struggling with mental health. Rest in peace ❤
@2NDFLB-CLERK
@2NDFLB-CLERK Месяц назад
▪️ A dog is a man's best friend. 🟥
@isabelp187
@isabelp187 Месяц назад
I feel like the fact he brought a recorder with him was kinda suspicious, like he was wanting to get evidence of something
@2NDFLB-CLERK
@2NDFLB-CLERK Месяц назад
@@isabelp187 ▪️ A carrot is a horse's best friend. 🟥
@diondredunigan5282
@diondredunigan5282 29 дней назад
@@isabelp187 i think it was more of a suicide note kind of deal
@EllawoodBlues
@EllawoodBlues 2 месяца назад
Debra's family forgiving that monster is just wow...I can see where she got her demeanor from, she was so respectful to that undeserving operator. I entirely understand her mom dying from a broken heart. May they rest peacefully
@DimeCutie
@DimeCutie 2 месяца назад
Her constantly apologizing makes me sick to my stomach. *sigh*
@Metatr0n
@Metatr0n 2 месяца назад
Sometimes the only way to progress in life in peace is by forgiving those who 100% wronged you. Else you're making your own life miserable yourself, without the wrong-doer being affected by it in any way. It's not really about forgiving the person, it's about letting go of anger and frustration and allowing yourself to move on.
@xhyenabite
@xhyenabite 2 месяца назад
​@@Metatr0nthat's a very valid mentality and quite beautiful
@i_like_lemons
@i_like_lemons 2 месяца назад
@@xhyenabite That's a stupid mentality that'll get you used and manipulated by assholes in life. Forgive only those who TRULY really want to repent, and have shown it through their action.
@xhyenabite
@xhyenabite 2 месяца назад
@@i_like_lemons how about i forgive whoever the fuck i want and live my life however the fuck i want because it's my life and not yours, hm? mind your business bro
@DeathMetalDerf
@DeathMetalDerf 2 месяца назад
Some people just shouldn't be 911 operators. There's absolutely zero reason to be like that towards a woman who honestly believes her life is in danger. Telling her "I need you to shut up" isn't helping anything. My brother-in-law is local 911 operator, and they just had a situation with a new hire getting really nasty with a person who was calling because they thought they heard someone breaking into their home. This new hire had been brought on for overnight work, and knew that going into things. He had decided to take a little snooze, got VERY ANNOYED to have to answer a possible distress call, gave the person all kinds of attitude, and once the actual police got to the scene it was very easy to see that someone indeed broke in and robbed this woman while she hid and cried in a bedroom closet. He was fired that night after his supervisor listened to the recorded call. I didn't get to hear it for myself, but my brother-in-law sure did. He was absolutely amazed that someone who supposedly wanted to be a 911 operator could be that callous and uncaring.
@Optimally_healthy5831
@Optimally_healthy5831 2 месяца назад
Wow. It's a good thing that person was fired. They should be ashamed of themselves. I hope they grow and become a better person 🙏
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 2 месяца назад
Monsters position themselves to have power over people's lives.
@Emlane09
@Emlane09 2 месяца назад
Honestly most people would say that this world is very cold
@2totabon
@2totabon 2 месяца назад
@@Emlane09 honestly some people would remember that this world is a blessing and that the thing making our blood run cold happens to be monsters doing impressions of human beings
@Emlane09
@Emlane09 2 месяца назад
@@2totabon that’s very wise, and deep 🙏
@fwvipra
@fwvipra Месяц назад
this takes the “always be kind to others because u never know when it may be your final moments” , to the next level .
@JubeProductions
@JubeProductions 2 месяца назад
Nick, I gotta say you have a great style and a narration voice. Your pacing, and tone fits perfectly with these dark stories. The research that goes into these videos is excellent as well, and I would imagine it takes a great team to put all this together. The production values are top notch, and I always look forward to a new video by you. Thank you to you and your team.
@Dxwill10
@Dxwill10 2 месяца назад
We as a society have GOT to stop forgiving monsters.
@ultimatecultchaos
@ultimatecultchaos 2 месяца назад
As a monster this hurts me. Please call those things something else, maybe the creatures will allow them to have the title of a creature
@Dhdjdndndndndnsdhdhdbd
@Dhdjdndndndndnsdhdhdbd 2 месяца назад
Nobody in society forgives monsters except ones like them. Sociopaths among us, in our gov, etc,.
@Gn01717
@Gn01717 2 месяца назад
​@@ultimatecultchaos how about creatures of unforgivable?
@ville__
@ville__ 2 месяца назад
I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS. I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way
@williamsmith666
@williamsmith666 2 месяца назад
This is what you get with this whole "be kind" thing. No. Fuck kindness. Some people need to get what's coming to them.
@silverflight01
@silverflight01 2 месяца назад
Timothy should've been keeping an eye on the weather at all times, but instead decided to act all bitter mid-flight, and it lead to the plane being intercepted by a storm. Terrible teacher
@Cmin480
@Cmin480 2 месяца назад
Fr instead of being like let’s head back or land he probably wanted to see how badly the kid handled flying in a storm
@philrob1978
@philrob1978 2 месяца назад
Why was a 22 year old douchebag in charge of an 18 year old learner pilot? No responsible flight school would ever allow that. More to that story than presented here.
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 2 месяца назад
​@@Cmin480For shiggles then, to tell to their boss? "Sir, he can't fly in a storm, he's a crap pilot, fail him!!".
@em7dim9
@em7dim9 2 месяца назад
@@Cmin480 The "teacher" was nearly a kid himself. Only 3 years difference in age.
@Cmin480
@Cmin480 2 месяца назад
@@em7dim9 that didn’t stop him from acting like that like nick said he was supposed to teach and mentor him
@carolinamurtha3102
@carolinamurtha3102 Месяц назад
That 911 operator is a despicable person. Last shift or not, telling someone who’s terrified and on the brink of death to “shut up” along with everything else she put Debra through in her last moments, she should be in jail.
@wartortle577
@wartortle577 25 дней назад
That's not illegal though
@Lodada
@Lodada 21 день назад
@@wartortle577she should be fired
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 10 дней назад
@@wartortle577 It is immoral though, It should definitely be illegal though as talking this way as an operator brings emotion pain and distress to someone who's life is at risk.
@wartortle577
@wartortle577 10 дней назад
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 My point isn't whether it's moral or not. It wasn't illegal. Nobody should go to jail for not breaking the law. That's why we have rights.
@vacantile
@vacantile 2 месяца назад
I remember being in a livestream of Luke’s on TikTok a few years ago. Crazy how he turned out like that.
@TheDigitalApple
@TheDigitalApple 2 месяца назад
The internet is both a blessing and a curse.
@domoetker3967
@domoetker3967 2 месяца назад
where?
@bobSeigar
@bobSeigar 2 месяца назад
Yes​@@domoetker3967
@GuilmarCruz
@GuilmarCruz 2 месяца назад
why do you say that the Internet is both a blessing or curse.
@luffyduffy7817
@luffyduffy7817 2 месяца назад
A blurse
@k_isforkaito.
@k_isforkaito. 2 месяца назад
55% Curse, 45% Blessing
@Natalie.Forestell
@Natalie.Forestell 2 месяца назад
Whether or not Donna was still employed as a 911 dispatcher shouldn't matter. She should've had criminal charges against her. At the very least involving negligence.
@kryzethx
@kryzethx 2 месяца назад
I can't imagine what kind of law would actually apply to file any charges against her; it's not like she wasn't doing her job. Despite the rudeness, she probably did what was legally "required" of her (sending someone to the location). You can't really save a drowning person with kindness, after all; anyone else probably wouldn't have been able to do any better. I'd say her demeanor was pretty despicable, but likely nothing criminal. The worst punishment she could get is being fired at that point, and since she was already leaving... not much to be done, except not letting others forget the way she acted.
@ll2323
@ll2323 2 месяца назад
Other than comforting words, what did u want her to do for her? The firefighters themselves said, there was no way to get to her and they had to wait for the water to calm. It’s one of those situations where Donna needed to realize she needed to act for herself.
@n0m4nic
@n0m4nic 2 месяца назад
I don't see how she could be. In spite of her demeanor, she was still trying to get the necessary information. It was just that there was very little the woman could actually relay to her. She appeared to relay what little she had to rescue services succinctly, she was just a bitch about it.
@princesskatarina351
@princesskatarina351 2 месяца назад
Unless they were to look at Donna's logs, and find that she really didn't try to get help, there was no crime done. Do I think she's a disgusting human being, and hope that Debra's drowning words haunt her into her nightmares? Yes. But I doubt even a civil case could have been brought against her.
@annabanana7659
@annabanana7659 2 месяца назад
She had the audacity to act like that because it as her final shift for that job. If that's how she handles calls with people in distress, that career is definitely not for her. It's like giving a psychopath a job as a guidance counelor.
@shopatticrosary
@shopatticrosary 2 месяца назад
The 911 call was so disturbing to hear. That operator didn’t do her job correctly, or with any sort of decorum. Firstly, the operator’s job is to determine the severity of the situation AS WELL AS determining the ability of the person who is in danger. She never asked if Debra had any medical problems that would make the situation more dangerous or harder to manage. She never reassured Debra that help was IMMEDIATELY on the way, because it was pretty obvious that she took her sweet as time reporting it to the proper authorities. It’s clear that Donna thought her last day on the job meant she could slack off, which leaves me questioning if she ever realized how important her job actually was. What a terrible human being 😢
@blub_655
@blub_655 2 месяца назад
That short sound of agony before the recording cut sent chills down my shine
@Eszti2000
@Eszti2000 2 месяца назад
The last case is heartbreaking. Especially her thanking the 911 operator for being there for her
@Rosie-ij3on
@Rosie-ij3on 2 месяца назад
Debra repeatedly apologizing to the operator is heart-breaking too. Bless this woman's soul. It's just so painful to listen to. I can't even imagine how I'd feel if that was my mum being spoken to like that while fearing for her life. Rest in peace, Debra Stevens 💝
@xstrxd
@xstrxd 2 месяца назад
she kinda deserves it for being so helpless though. TWENTY MINUTES of sitting there doing nothing. jesus christ
@reg9569
@reg9569 2 месяца назад
@@Rosie-ij3on Honestly listening to and learning about that call ruined my day, week, month. without a doubt the worse thing I have ever come across and made me cry. My heard melts for her family, and I can respect them for trying to come to peace with the injustice.
@kam2894
@kam2894 2 месяца назад
@@Rosie-ij3onif that was my mother i would be going to jail
@_letstartariot
@_letstartariot 2 месяца назад
Debra was such a sweetheart considering she was panicking and literally about to drown. I think we people with empathy naturally feel protective of people like her, I feel sick and powerless having listened to that. And so angry and disgusted at the operator.
@VUDACRIS
@VUDACRIS 2 месяца назад
The 911 operater at the end makes my blood boil. Literally laughed at a woman as she was dying...
@dieterdelange9488
@dieterdelange9488 2 месяца назад
My jaw dropped when she snapped: "That'll teach you not to drive in the water." It's understandable that, if another person is hysterical, that it can make those around them start to panic as well, but that remark was heartless.
@xstrxd
@xstrxd 2 месяца назад
she chose to sit in that car for over 20 minutes until the water got high enough to take her car away. she was willingly helpless and died for it
@TenaciousTD
@TenaciousTD 2 месяца назад
@@dieterdelange9488and the fact that she told Debra she should’ve been able to see the water was so dumb. Flash floods happen quickly, and you can’t see the water in the dark, even with your headlights on. It’s often just mistaken for wet roads. What did she think, that the poor woman drove into the water on purpose? It’s so tragic that the last person ever got to talk to was someone who was so horrible to her. It breaks my heart.
@TenaciousTD
@TenaciousTD 2 месяца назад
@@xstrxdhave you ever been in a flash flood? The water moves quickly, and she couldn’t swim. You can’t just get out of your car and wade through it. There were multiple people who got trapped in their vehicles that night who required rescue. Unfortunately, they couldn’t find Debra in time to save her. Did you even listen to the call? You must be friends with the horrific dispatcher. Zero compassion or empathy.
@R3DR0PE
@R3DR0PE 2 месяца назад
@@xstrxd Did you not get to the part in the video that said Debra was disabled and couldn't swim?
@michaelchretien97
@michaelchretien97 Месяц назад
Your video style and production, and how in depth you do your research is absolutely phenomenal. Aswell as your unique delivery of creppy stories, by far the best spooky youtube channel.
@bunny-ix5ec
@bunny-ix5ec 10 дней назад
we studied debra's case in criminal law my junior year of high school, it still breaks my heart to think about what she went through.
@GwentheNinth
@GwentheNinth 2 месяца назад
That 911 call pissed me off. That is an example of how not to be a 911 operator and I wish nothing but the worst for her
@PeteyThePenguin
@PeteyThePenguin 2 месяца назад
She literally laughed at a woman dying. She's among the worst kind of human there is, and her job was to help save people's lives.
@MsChantae
@MsChantae 2 месяца назад
sameeee!! I get hating your job and all but someones life is on the line. she doesnt deserve your displaced anger especially at time like this. and the lady was literally the sweetest person ever, its so sad. what a way to go. i hope donna cant sleep at night. EVERY NIGHT.
@cheeplethebulldog1420
@cheeplethebulldog1420 2 месяца назад
I remember someone like that who basically was beligerent and rude. as far as I know, he ended up on THAT registry.
@mysticthecatninja
@mysticthecatninja 2 месяца назад
The last one is so evil. It made me feel sick. I had a teacher who abused me in school and they did nothing about it because it was "her last year anyway." It's not a reason to leave this kind of behavior unchecked. Admittedly I don't know what kind of charges she could face, but wow...
@Localpcshitter
@Localpcshitter 2 месяца назад
What grade were you in when this happened?
@zericle1
@zericle1 2 месяца назад
I've gone through a similar situation. It was my elementary school principal and another teacher. 2007, North Allegheny, PA. 2nd grade. principal's last name was Bradley. teacher's was Schwartz. It was her last year there. How people like that can end up running a school, I don't understand.
@JubeProductions
@JubeProductions 2 месяца назад
I hate to hear these stories. You can't change what happened to you, you can only change how you feel about what happened.
@jjrat5pack
@jjrat5pack 2 месяца назад
My parents went to the school board over my 4th grade teacher's mocking of me & also bc he got mad that I wasn't doing the math problems right one day. He dragged me out of the room & into an empty classroom. I was (am) very short & he was dragging me so fast my feet couldn't keep up. He then shoved me into a desk & told me to "sit there until you get it right!" I had no idea what I was doing wrong & was sitting there crying. An older student came in &, when he heard my story, he sat down & explained how to do the math problems. That's what the teacher should have done! He was reprimanded & I hope he never did that to another student. I remember having to imitate how he dragged me. He was my friend's father & claimed he didn't want to show favoritism. But he did the exact opposite; he never did anything like that to the other students. I'm in my mid-sixties & the event is still so clear in my mind!
@T_The_Asogian
@T_The_Asogian Месяц назад
I was abused by the teachers at my primary school, so from ages 7 - 11. Unfortunately, that trauma stays, and I have learned to move on the best I can. I hope you find peace. T
@FightingSnail
@FightingSnail 2 месяца назад
I worked as a 911 dispatcher for a year or so before quitting. I remember my coworkers showing me that exact 911 call and us all being appalled. In my training there was a whole section with a call similar to that one as an example of what not to do. Sad that Debra was unable to escape, sad that the public safety industry can turn caring people cold, calloused and desensitized, sad that people who don’t care are able to get those jobs. The nature of the work means most Dispatch centers are understaffed and most dispatchers underpayed and mistreated which leads to hiring just about anyone without a criminal record. Let’s hope it gets better for everyone’s sake and let’s learn from the tragedy of Debra Stevens. Chilling call, I hope she is in a better place.
@ShePassedAway
@ShePassedAway 2 месяца назад
The Debra Stevens story always boils my blood even to this day. I was born in Ft Smith and remember several times the roads were under water, so it always hits close to home for me. I remember people saying that if they ever saw her she was going to beg for her life.
@AnneIglesias
@AnneIglesias 2 месяца назад
I can’t stand thinking that Connor’s final moments on this earth were not only spent being mocked, but those mocking posts being broadcasted for his family to eventually see. :(
@cheyennedevore8381
@cheyennedevore8381 Месяц назад
The fact that the instructor was only 22 blew me away. He couldn’t be that much better at anything than Conner was, he was barely older than him. The audacity of him to think he’s so much better than Conner is absolutely baffling. Conner didn’t deserve that. He deserved an instructor who valued his life.
@rowyerboat1
@rowyerboat1 2 месяца назад
“The water didn’t just appear”….uh yea Donna that’s how flooding works 🤦‍♂️
@oof1007
@oof1007 2 месяца назад
I think she meant like water just appearing without a noticeable increase. Debra knew there was a flood but kept going, obviously not imagining it'd get so bad. The operator was a dick but that was the one thing she had right, there is no way Debra didn't know it was risky. Still, she didn't deserve to die for that mistake nor have her final moments be some asshole on the other end of the line.
@adumbooctopus1115
@adumbooctopus1115 2 месяца назад
​@@oof1007 that's the thing, though, floods (particularly flash floods) increase in height *fast*. Like, yeah it's a noticeable increase, but it becomes noticeable too fast to get out of the way.
@that_pan_chick8650
@that_pan_chick8650 2 месяца назад
@@oof1007the literal meaning of a flash flood but okay 😂
@rowyerboat1
@rowyerboat1 2 месяца назад
I get what you're saying but I see no value in justifying someone whose job it is to respond to an emergency, talking out of their ass so presumptuously about how the person got into their situation. It doesn't matter if she could be right, she wasn't there and doesn't know and she's being presumptuous about how a person got into a situation that is about to kill them. Anyone else in the world should be running their mouth on that before the people you call to save you. Society shouldn't pay you to suck this bad at the job.
@QueenOfTheConsole
@QueenOfTheConsole 2 месяца назад
@@oof1007 in that moment, does it truly matter? How is it helpful to point that out?
@joshfour5331
@joshfour5331 Месяц назад
The last one is so heartbreaking, it genuinely made me cry. Infuriating that she never got any justice
@maxxmeadus7654
@maxxmeadus7654 Месяц назад
amazing edits, great video as per usual. Good job, Nick!
@mikeyben7
@mikeyben7 2 месяца назад
Debra’s case makes me cry. An emergency responder acting this way? If you’ve never been trapped in a flash flood, that situation is horrific.
@lucretiz
@lucretiz 2 месяца назад
I whole heartedly agree! It's called a flashflood for a reason and then dismissing her saying she will watch next time about driving through water is so sinister.
@SecuR0M
@SecuR0M 2 месяца назад
I imagine Donna is smart enough to not drive around during a flood warning. Not everyone is that clever, though, clearly.
@naz6james570
@naz6james570 2 месяца назад
​@@lucretiz regardless, she's the one who took that risk by going through flooded roads. That's why she kept saying sorry. People keep blaming that operator, but I put the blame on God for this one. I mean, you flashflooded a handicapped with crippling fear of water and giving her last words with an idiot??? What tf was that God!?? So cruel!
@brianarnold9496
@brianarnold9496 2 месяца назад
@@naz6james570 first off, BRO SHE'S NOT GOING TO READ THIS AND SLIDE INTO YOUR DMS.
@SisyphusSRB
@SisyphusSRB 2 месяца назад
I don't have to be in a flash flood to know it's horrific. Same way I don't have to get lit on fire to know pretty much how it would suck.
@malechex611
@malechex611 2 месяца назад
That dispatcher should never have been on call. This is what she should have told Donna to do: -Try to back the car out of the ditch -if the car is stuck, set the parking brake. Keep headlights and hazard lights on for visibility - Roll down the windows so she is able to open her door It makes me so mad that her death was so easily avoidable
@meghan92385
@meghan92385 2 месяца назад
She was gonna die regardless. She was literally in the trees, so she wouldn't of been able to back up as her car was legitimately stuck. The cops couldn't get to her because of how bad the flooding was, and she couldn't swim so rolling her windows down would have just made her flood faster and probably would've swept her car away quicker. The 911 operater was a shit person, but there was no one she would've gotten help from in time.
@averyelliott5645
@averyelliott5645 2 месяца назад
@@meghan92385 Honestly the laughter was the only part that bothered me of her reaction. I feel like the "shut up" was harsh but like... As you said, cops couldn't get to her, she couldn't move her car, it was a no-win situation, but dispatchers have a tendency to be very blunt with callers who won't stop panicking long enough to explain what help they need and where they are and Debra wasn't giving them much to work with and was putting more stress on her body freaking out. Donna could have been more kind and said "okay, try to take deep breaths and calm down," but I can also have empathy for the fact that 911 operators often hear traumatic shit and that moment is probably burned into her brain, based on conversations I've had with people who used to do the same job. Also, absolutely not victim blaming, but Donna literally did everything you shouldn't do when flooding starts, so PLEASE FOLKS do not make the same mistakes. The flooding roads should have led to pulling over somewhere safe, getting out of the car, and getting inside a building. Don't stay on the roads during flash flooding. If your newspaper job finds that unacceptable, the job isn't worth it.
@pigeonmama
@pigeonmama 2 месяца назад
@@averyelliott5645 my brother in christ you cant just say "not victim blaming but" and then literally start victim blaming
@emmayeager5398
@emmayeager5398 2 месяца назад
@@averyelliott5645the operator literally blamed it on being her last day as a operator and hating her job, she was just plain out ugly
@averyelliott5645
@averyelliott5645 2 месяца назад
@@pigeonmama it's literally not victim blaming to say "she unfortunately made a poor choice, please do not ever do this." It would be victim blaming if I said she deserved it, which I did not. Sharing "hey, there's a reason you should never do this" is just safety advice that is literally shared by the national weather service any time there are flash flood warnings lmfaooooo. Tell me you never lived anywhere with frequent flash flooding without telling me,
@kiwisocket8697
@kiwisocket8697 Месяц назад
Hearing that 911 call absolutely broke my heart into pieces, Debra seemed to be the absolute sweetest, even at such a horrible situation that cost her life. I cannot argue with the choice of the family in forgiving that dispatcher, but I do believe that what the dispatcher has done will haunt her for the rest of her days. I’ll never understand how humanity still goes on with the unfairness of such individuals that truly show humanity, only for their life to be cut short.
@meganthemom
@meganthemom Месяц назад
I can’t listen to that 911 call. I watch a shocking amount of body camera footage, 911 calls, interrogations, trials, you name it. This specific 911 call disturbed me beyond words. I remember the first time I heard it and I was genuinely sick. I cannot believe the way she was treated while terrified and dying. It’s literally a nightmare. I cannot IMAGINE.
@angelcakeart
@angelcakeart 2 месяца назад
That phone call broke my heart... Debra just wanted to talk to someone to help her manage her fear in that terrifying situation and she didn't even get common courtesy. She deserved so much more, so much more compassion..
@f.l3450
@f.l3450 2 месяца назад
This made me cry, just awful 😢
@Emlane09
@Emlane09 2 месяца назад
Heartbreaking. I hope she was showed a lot of love throughout her life
@raspdere
@raspdere 22 дня назад
Oh, man. That last call made me tear up and I'm not a cryer. What a lovely, gorgeous person taken from us due to malicious negligence - my heart will always be with Debra and her mother, Nancy.
@goateddd
@goateddd 2 месяца назад
12:22 Dude you no joke gave me a PTSD flashback with the Darkwood music and the banshees in the background 😭. Good video man
@kilrahbi
@kilrahbi 2 месяца назад
I obviously don't know McKellar, but he acted like someone who peaked in high school and couldn't mature/get over the mindset of those days. What a dick
@Zed7762
@Zed7762 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the clarification there. Thought you knew McKellar for a second.
@kilrahbi
@kilrahbi 2 месяца назад
@@Zed7762 yea gotta preface bc there's always an asshole who takes things too literally. seeing now that it'll be that way no matter what you say though 🤷🏾‍♂️
@Zed7762
@Zed7762 2 месяца назад
@@kilrahbi I was just being sarcastic
@kilrahbi
@kilrahbi 2 месяца назад
@@Zed7762 sorry i get a lot of comments and it's at a point where i genuinely cant tell, i rescind my asshole statement hope you have a good rest of your day/evening
@TheFoxHound626
@TheFoxHound626 Месяц назад
I feel so bad for the kid though, just trying to learn while the other guy is just making fun of him online
@floppycockjamboozle5382
@floppycockjamboozle5382 2 месяца назад
“The water didn’t just appear” -911 lady who is unfamiliar with the concept of rain
@Jamie-dt2vf7dsa8
@Jamie-dt2vf7dsa8 2 месяца назад
4:16 that scream is chilling, being the last thing before the recording ended
@lil_demon__
@lil_demon__ 2 месяца назад
Yes it gave me e chills
@connormac4401
@connormac4401 2 месяца назад
Those guys survived tho
@xjiden
@xjiden 2 месяца назад
i was just about to comment this. it sent a shiver down my spine especially after he said "we're not gonna make it".
@boop1286
@boop1286 2 месяца назад
I think it’s the plane’s wheels screeching on the ground right?
@Jamie-dt2vf7dsa8
@Jamie-dt2vf7dsa8 2 месяца назад
@@boop1286 is it? idk to me it sounds like a scream but idk
@escorivera3755
@escorivera3755 Месяц назад
Amazing episode💔 can’t wait for the next. 1 of my favorite channels I enjoy and watch every second of content you put out❤️
@devancarnes3510
@devancarnes3510 2 месяца назад
Best RU-vid channel to listen to at work.👍🏾
@benadams3569
@benadams3569 2 месяца назад
I've heard 9-1-1 calls like the Debra Stevens call before. Some dispatchers show very little empathy, and often do seem annoyed when calls are played in the media.
@maddie9655
@maddie9655 2 месяца назад
There is no reason why these dispatch callers act this way. How can you not have empathy for people at their most desperate. No mercy for people in helping positions who become so desensitized and continue to work.
@fuzzy7644
@fuzzy7644 2 месяца назад
You'd think you would need some basic levels of empathy in a job that involves public service but I guess not. :/
@SigynRegn
@SigynRegn 2 месяца назад
They can be annoyed all they want. People are entitled to know these kind of cases.
@Sly-Moose
@Sly-Moose 2 месяца назад
Oh they don't like they're heartless behaviour being revealed to the world, do they? Well, good. Everyone should see those monsters' true colours.
@kailoveskitties
@kailoveskitties 2 месяца назад
The one in the Josh Powell case comes to mind.
@HeisenbergFam
@HeisenbergFam 2 месяца назад
Im amazed how Nick is still sane after 5 years of research on madness
@Bigcevap1
@Bigcevap1 2 месяца назад
At this point its the add pulling him to earth
@old4104
@old4104 2 месяца назад
How is this bot still botting? Thought it was done.
@McStuda
@McStuda 2 месяца назад
@@old4104your brain isn't braining, it's a bot. It's not gonna end for a while.
@jjenk911
@jjenk911 2 месяца назад
Perhaps he has lost his mind and is covering his insanity well.
@LonelyGamer4
@LonelyGamer4 2 месяца назад
I’m amazed how you’re still on the internet making bottom of the barrel generic comments
@itriponair82
@itriponair82 2 месяца назад
Just found your channel today. About to do some serious binge listening. Thank you ! 🤘
@999leorik999
@999leorik999 2 месяца назад
bro im addicted to your content i looove so much your channel!
@epochro
@epochro 2 месяца назад
debra’s story breaks my heart. as someone who’s been let down by police operators before, i cannot imagine the sheer devastation she felt. she had so much faith in reneau and that monster dashed it to pieces without hesitation edit: i’ve been asked to share my story, but youtube keeps deleting my replies… it seems like my comments are disappearing, oddly enough. thanks for listening, guys unfortunately, there was an incident involving my mom. she was at a man’s house and seemed to have been given something she shouldn't have taken. we received frantic messages from her, but we were unsure what to do, as our dad wouldn’t pick up our calls due to time zone differences. when we called the police, the operator wasn't helpful and seemed dismissive. he kept telling us to calm down, and that we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. we did give him an address, and my mom’s phone number, but he said there was nothing they could do. eventually, we reached out to a friend's dad, who helped get my mom to safety. it turns out the man involved had a history of misconduct
@namelessnocebo
@namelessnocebo 2 месяца назад
could you share your story? (if you don't mind of course) I work indirectly with 911 operators so I find this stuff really fascinating
@epochro
@epochro 2 месяца назад
@@namelessnocebo content warning ahead for anyone reading, but i can definitely share. thank you for the interest i was 17 and my sister was 14. my mom had lent her car to an ex-neighbour and he totalled it, so she went to his house to discuss the repair fees. there was no indication that he was a threat and he’d been invited to our house for dinner several times. while she was there, he drugged and raped her. she told me later that she managed to lock herself in his bathroom but she was quickly losing her hand eye coordination - she tried to text us but she could only write cryptic fragments like ‘help ples” i called the police, i didn’t know she was being assaulted but i knew she was in danger. i was distraught and i can remember hyperventilating at one point because i have a diagnosed anxiety disorder. the responder got frustrated with me quickly, he kept telling me to calm down but his tone was abrasive and irritated. he asked for an address, i gave it to him, but he told me i was overreacting and that i should just call her first. my sister took the phone while i tried to call my mom, my dad, etc. no one could help me and the responder kept telling us off, telling us to calm down. i think i hung up eventually out of frustration, because it was just a back and forth of “please send help” then “we can’t do anything yet.”
@lacountess
@lacountess 2 месяца назад
It reminds me of one night when I was so sick I couldn’t move and was going in and out of consciousness. I called 911 and when they didn’t show up after half an hour I called again. The dispatcher called me “impatient” and “entitled” and said all their paramedics were busy dealing with more serious calls. She would periodically call me over the next 8 hours and one time, when I was passed out and couldn’t answer the phone, she called again and sounded angry at me for ignoring the previous call. Finally, in the morning, my mom called and immediately rushed to help. She took me to the hospital and the next time that dispatcher called to check on me she gave her a piece of her mind.
@NotB_Rice
@NotB_Rice 2 месяца назад
As a cop people tend to just shift the blame on us so you don't usually hear stories about 911 operators being awful but trust me I've seen plenty of stories and hear plenty of radio chatter it's not a uncommon occurrence.
@pearyourfav
@pearyourfav Месяц назад
could you tell us your story? If you are ok with it
@Kuddos2you
@Kuddos2you 2 месяца назад
That last case angered me to my core. Debra seemed like such a sweet soul, even going as far as thanking an individual who couldn’t seem to care less in such a dire situation. She didn’t deserve that one bit. My heart absolutely breaks for her and her family. I hope Donna is haunted by this for the rest of her life. Pathetic. Rip Debra Stevens
@cdude665
@cdude665 2 месяца назад
Sign the petition
@NoobySwooby
@NoobySwooby 2 месяца назад
@@cdude665bro is NOT postal dude
@user-wh8my6sr8l
@user-wh8my6sr8l Месяц назад
She probably doesn't give a shit
@KickAssets
@KickAssets Месяц назад
This was really good. I'm impressed❤
@AydenGibbons
@AydenGibbons Месяц назад
Even the last moments recording of 1141 is chilling. There’s a pause and then painful shaky screaming. You definitely hear someone meet their maker. Only 4:20 in and I’m already feeling it
@Jupa
@Jupa 2 месяца назад
I have no words for the last one. R.I.P Debra
@wartortle577
@wartortle577 25 дней назад
Guess you did have words...
@reasesoffice
@reasesoffice 2 месяца назад
I don't know why I watch these types of videos anymore. I watch horror stuff to be horrified and to feel a bit of a thrill, and then I go about my day going, "WHEW, that was kind of spooky, haha." Instead, videos like the 911 Operator leave me so damn angry instead. They leave me absolutely livid that another person can treat other people in horrible situations like that, and knowing the fact that there are people out there who not only did not get punished but probably don't feel an ounce of guilt over it infuriates me to no end.
@maxwhitley931
@maxwhitley931 2 месяца назад
my thoughts exactly, now its 1am and im mad in bed lol
@brianmaguire6814
@brianmaguire6814 2 месяца назад
I'm a marine veteran. My va doctors call me a liar, scoff at and roll their eyes at me, tell me my issues aren't real. I'm just one of 20+ million humans thrown away by the US military. We are still alive. No one cares.
@bipple4588
@bipple4588 Месяц назад
I saw red and destroyed my lungs from uncontrollable roars of rage. This wench belongs on a cross
@dillionmcwhite5023
@dillionmcwhite5023 Месяц назад
Humans are the most terrifying monsters
@themoocow7718
@themoocow7718 Месяц назад
Yep. I can handle horror stories, but some stories are so real.
@Uniqueyewnork
@Uniqueyewnork 2 месяца назад
that blood-curdling scream from the plane captains is the stuff of nightmares.
@CreepySpino
@CreepySpino Месяц назад
Nick again with the goated videos
@felekzelek
@felekzelek 2 месяца назад
the 911 operator is literally making me sick, the amount of unprofessionalism in that woman is unbelieveable but whats also bizzare is the lack of literal empathy. debra was panicking and drowning and telling a person like that to SHUT UP like WHAT
@Trina-nt5nl
@Trina-nt5nl 2 месяца назад
It make me so sad how she was drowning while the person is telling her to shut up Debra could have continued her life and her mom too if it wasn’t for a rude 911 dispatcher
@kab9706
@kab9706 2 месяца назад
Operator's name is Donna Reneau
@armyofthewolves
@armyofthewolves 2 месяца назад
That 911 call makes my blood boil. That poor woman, scared to death and still apologizing for inconveniencing the operator who doesn't give a shit about her. The fact that the operator was the last person she spoke to makes me sick. Bless her family for being forgiving. I know I wouldn't be. The instructor was infuriating too, but not to the same degree. Edit: spelling
@WAR904
@WAR904 Месяц назад
Someone outta of just handled that for the family, just got the family is spineless doesn’t mean ms quarter pounder should be walking free.
@amandaredd3057
@amandaredd3057 2 месяца назад
Well, I can honestly say every single one of these stories made my head want to explode
@a7xrebelrocker
@a7xrebelrocker 2 месяца назад
Your videos are top notch. Thank you :)
@CptJakeA
@CptJakeA 2 месяца назад
As a pilot myself, I have studied both aviation cases presented here. The first one is tragic, and the second one is just downright disgusting. The student was doing everything right. It's hard as a private pilot student to be assertive over your instructor, especially when it's not your full time instructor. I'm currently preparing for my certified flight instructor checkride, and everything that this instructor was doing was a huge red flag and goes against what we are taught. He is a disgrace to the community and I hope the families of both pilots can find peace through the loss of their sons.
@MFLimited
@MFLimited 2 месяца назад
Was. He was a disgrace to the community
@ville__
@ville__ 2 месяца назад
I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS. I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way
@rodneyabrett
@rodneyabrett 2 месяца назад
I don't know anything about commercial passenger planes, but it's pretty disturbing that something as simple as wingflaps being in the wrong position can have such deadly consequences.
@CptJakeA
@CptJakeA 2 месяца назад
@@rodneyabrett yes, that is why we follow strict checklists
@dragonmaster3030
@dragonmaster3030 2 месяца назад
Don't know .ich about what goes on in the passenger jets these days but even back then when planes were simpler and ran propeller even the most minor of changes can really fuck up your plane from as early as the design not to mention the production parts and operation.
@DisappointedButNotSurprised
@DisappointedButNotSurprised 2 месяца назад
It's not every day that a story gets to me, but poor Debra's story really does. It's so horrible to hear her suffer and panic like that, and to be spoken down to by someone who doesn't sound like they care about anyone. Some people are legitimately ice cold when it comes to other people and caring about them. I really don't understand how anyone can be so/sound so unphased when they are literally hearing someone die.
@carl-wheezer
@carl-wheezer 2 месяца назад
The fact that she remained so sweet and selfless, constantly apologising for her completely rational fear and what not, made it so much worse. I hope karma exists because that dispatcher deserves every last bit of it
@DisappointedButNotSurprised
@DisappointedButNotSurprised 2 месяца назад
@@carl-wheezer I agree. I couldn't just sit there if it were me and be so heartless. That poor woman knew what was happening to her and she was scared and rightly so. The dispatcher acted like she was just wasting her time and clearly didn't care one bit. It just sounded so sociopathic.
@I.G.S.A.N.A.G.M
@I.G.S.A.N.A.G.M 2 месяца назад
Nick Crowley is 1 of the only people to get me excited but also terrified when he uploads a video.
@N3XUSP0LARIS
@N3XUSP0LARIS Месяц назад
That 911 operator, Donna, is a real PoS. That poor woman calls asking for help and gets laughed at and ends up dying because of Donna’s incompetence.
@midnightMorpha
@midnightMorpha 2 месяца назад
the last one should be a reminder to "turn around, don't drown" when there's flooding in your area. most people don't know how strong water truly is until it's too late. my heart breaks for debra and her family 💔
@rbmay
@rbmay 2 месяца назад
god that last one was so sickening. i've never heard a 911 operator sound so legitimately annoyed by someone who was quite literally crying for her life on the other end of the phone. and the fact that Debra was literally APOLOGISING to Donna for getting upset when her literal life was on the line. no repercussions is bad enough, but the lack of any kind of apology or remorse is so heartbreaking. and then Debra's family going on to forgive Donna despite it all? Debra did not deserve to, in her final moments, be mocked and scolded by the one person that is meant to be providing help. absolutely disgusting.
@hollowgonzalo4329
@hollowgonzalo4329 2 месяца назад
@rbmay I get all of that but besides it being her final shift a lot of the dismissivness probably came from a place of her knowing that it was going to take fucking forever for the cop's to actually arrive on scene and she probably figured that she was going to have to listen to that woman panicking like that over the phone with her for hours if nothing drastic took place.
@rbmay
@rbmay 2 месяца назад
@@hollowgonzalo4329 i don't think that's an excuse for her behaviour though. i think that no matter the circumstances, no matter if she was on that call for three hours, no matter if Debra was being "annoying", she's quite literally screaming for her life. it's so disgusting of Donna to get irritated with Debra, and to tell her to "shut up" in her final moments. even if this wasn't a fatal situation, and Debra was scared for no reason, Donna should still have the patience and respect that 911 operators are trained to have. no matter the circumstances, a 911 operator should not be outright rude to someone who is as terrified as Debra was. i think everyone deserves that ounce of respect, _especially_ in their final moments.
@SecuR0M
@SecuR0M 2 месяца назад
That woman was panicking and not able to provide any helpful information while she was actively trying to be assisted by 911 and rescue workers. It's normal to be frustrated at such stupidity when you have fire rescue asking for her location, the person who is drowning is unable to provide even the most basic information, meanwhile the location ping doesn't show she has moved, she won't stop babbling about nonsense, and she outright refuses to calm down and just give you her location. Sometimes that frustration comes out while working 911 dispatch, and Donna received more than enough death threats over it, but you can help add to those if you feel it's necessary. The unfortunate truth for Donna is that she got called by a woman who decided to kill herself by driving out into a flood, and got blamed for this woman's su!c!de, which is very sad. The moral of the story shouldn't be "911 dispatchers should be robots that are always cheerful" it's "you shouldn't drive during a flood watch", but if you think robots are better than people you might think that. Anyway, hopefully you never wake up during a surgery or hear the banter that paramedics make about obese people. Donna was reasonably respectful, if a tad frustrated, and that's all.
@gobsmr
@gobsmr 2 месяца назад
@@SecuR0MIt’s normal to be frustrated and annoyed by certain callers, but their job is to stay calm. Defending laughing at a woman dying? You’re mentally ill. Get help.
@Agaricus_cuscus
@Agaricus_cuscus 2 месяца назад
​@@SecuR0M by calling it su!cide you are blowing the other side out of proportions. She would need to do all that with intention of taking her own life. Her choices were stupid but not su!cidal. She did give all the information she could. Also just because you are suppose to be calm doesn't mean you are able to do that. On that note even if frustrated i don't why would you remind another person who is panicking its their fault, because many people wouldn't probably enjoy being put down in a time that can be their final moments. I think you are way too harsh on the victim. (I don't condone sending death threats to the dispatcher either)
@lauracorcoran3183
@lauracorcoran3183 Месяц назад
Karma is going to have a field day with that operator.
@bugdrinkk
@bugdrinkk Месяц назад
I instantly had to stop the video when I saw that picture of Debra, 911 calls like that just hurt my heart.. I hope shes resting easily ❤
@SPARKRIZZLE
@SPARKRIZZLE 2 месяца назад
the debra steven’s call is absolutely horrifying. debra was pleading for her life, and even apologized to donna herself and thanked donna for being there. she seemed like such a sweet and caring woman. donna is nothing but evil, and i hope she never finds peace for what she has done.
@beccawiley6684
@beccawiley6684 2 месяца назад
I was a 9-1-1 emergency dispatcher for fire and police for many years. The way this dispatcher acted is beyond disgusting. She should never be allowed to work in any capacity that requires compassion.
@0ne01
@0ne01 2 месяца назад
Tell her.
@ll2323
@ll2323 2 месяца назад
It was her last day, she was leaving anyway, plus they had hundreds of calls to deal with debra wasn’t the only person experiencing an emergency. She was unfortunately, in an area that firefighters weren’t able to get to until the water calmed so they could at least use the boats, to get to her.
@Moonless87
@Moonless87 2 месяца назад
​@@ll2323 that doesn't excuse her behaviour at all!
@ll2323
@ll2323 2 месяца назад
@@Moonless87 no it doesn’t but people calling for her to be fired obviously weren’t aware she was on her last shift.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 10 дней назад
@@ll2323 Fair, but its still sad that she was never punished in anyway for what she said.
@chrissylibertyk9
@chrissylibertyk9 2 месяца назад
That 911 operator should be charged with negligent homicide
@thecameramantraveler4830
@thecameramantraveler4830 Месяц назад
welcome back man
@justjulia777
@justjulia777 2 месяца назад
that school sounds super suspicious to me. how tf is no one questioning why there’s barbed wire keeping the kids in? it sounds like more of a prison than a school
@tb4546
@tb4546 2 месяца назад
I hate to be that guy, but… you’ve gotta remember what country that school is in. This kind of case is EXCEEDINGLY common there, you’d be surprised how local and deep rooted the corruption goes.
@joeking6972
@joeking6972 2 месяца назад
I mean...the principal didn't even TRY to sound unsuspicious.
@jidusea4327
@jidusea4327 2 месяца назад
cuz it's china
@vamppunch6983
@vamppunch6983 2 месяца назад
To be fair, in my country, barbed wire to protect houses and other property is really common. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same was common in china, specifically for schools.
@justjulia777
@justjulia777 2 месяца назад
@@vamppunch6983 yeah i guess that could be it. i’ve just never heard of a school that has so many security measures to keep the students inside before
@LemonDrip
@LemonDrip 2 месяца назад
jesus christ, the amount of relief when he said the audio clip of Hu Xinyu was fake...
@gennielinara2356
@gennielinara2356 2 месяца назад
Yea but who knows if that’s true.
@Gnomesmakemesmile
@Gnomesmakemesmile 2 месяца назад
​@@gennielinara2356i think it was real AF
@mrincorrect848
@mrincorrect848 2 месяца назад
I doubt the legitimacy of the audio recording but the rest of the details are so suspicious especially given chinas history of not being very honest about people’s disappearances.
@jonathanvilleneuve4211
@jonathanvilleneuve4211 2 месяца назад
@@mrincorrect848 I mean , the school as cameras everywhere , manages to find the only dead corner of the whole place. Can't even leave due to barbed wire. somehow ended himself just outside of his school while managing to bug the cameras and find an exit without anyone noticing? Yeah bullshit kid was killed by someone.
@ZDCastle
@ZDCastle 2 месяца назад
Also, why was the journal only found after the body was found? Suspicious AF. It could be how the video was presented though, but... Yeah, hard to trust anything outta the CCP
@johnturfhat1862
@johnturfhat1862 2 месяца назад
The 911 operator in Debra’s case is a sorry excuse for a human
@kluckva
@kluckva 2 месяца назад
the last case is so depressing, frustrating and disgusting Debra was obviously a very sweet woman, even on the verge of death and having a panic attack she was still saying "I'm sorry if I'm rude" and "thank you for being with me, Donna" and her being threated this poorly in the last hour of her life breaks my heart the only good news here is that Donna isn't a 911 operator anymore and I hope she will NEVER be working with people again with such background may Debra and her mother be happy together in the afterlife if they believed in it 🧡🧡
@kluckva
@kluckva 2 месяца назад
oh and this story also reminded me about the zimnyaya vishnya (winter cherry) tragedy in Kemerovo, Russia in 2018 winter cherry was a mall that caught on fire and due to fire safety violations 60 people hive died, 37 of them were children who came to the cinema in the mall, and also 171 animal from the zoo in the mall have also died. it's the second deadliest fire in Russia's history after the lame horse night club tragedy the 112 (russian 911) call recording went viral where a man (I'm not sure but if I remember correctly his children were inside the building and eventually died) is shouting "there are people dying there!" and the operator answers him "so what? the help is on the way, what else do you want from me?" with the most passive-aggressive tone ever istg some people become monsters after working for the emergency lines
@narikobeilschmidt
@narikobeilschmidt 2 месяца назад
a couple of notes on Hu Xinyu's case that are important - the "man walking his dog" was a school security officer - at some point (I think before the security footage) Xinyu was at one of dormitory balconies, presumably to jump. literally one of the worst sins of (most) asian countries is to inconvenience others, likely why he went into the forest instead so no one would have the "burden" of seeing his body if he had jumped at the dorm - apparently his jacket was on backwards?? - the school campus is gated, Xinyu was found on school grounds
@Skowl3883
@Skowl3883 2 месяца назад
I tend to lean more toward the fact that he was intentionally killed. The fact that the school became extreme aggressive in their response to the accusation and the disappearances of previous students makes me think that the whole 'ending himself' narrative was to get the heat off of them. We all know how China is when it comes to their views on human life and if the boy did indeed have a rare blood type, I could very easily see them popping him off for those valuable organs and such. To believe the state narrative is a fools errand.
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 2 месяца назад
also dont need blood type to get organ match, thats is a far less likely way than to get from other blood types that can be used giving many options!
@MFLimited
@MFLimited 2 месяца назад
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 I’m not sure what you’re saying. I’m a medical professional, I’m afraid the blood type of the donor still must be compatible with the recipient. The rules for blood type in transplantation are exactly the same as they are for blood transfusion. More blood types can be used with each other than once believed. But they must be compatible.
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 2 месяца назад
@@MFLimited "I’m a medical professional, " funny you didnt say what type! i wonder why! and its sad you cant comprehend that the rare blood type will be much easier to find a match from another blood type group! than the exact same rare one! Also as i said that excuse is proven false by this fact and also it didnt happen! "I’m afraid the blood type of the donor still must be compatible with the recipient. " Yes i said that!
@notaweebb
@notaweebb 2 месяца назад
Im little iffy with this one as anything reported in china has to be taken with a massive grain of salt. Im leaning more on to that it wasnt self deleating, China is well known of covering things up, censoring things and shutting people up (usually parents). And the whole burden thing, yes and no. Really depends on what part of asia. Kinda ridicilous to think the burden/inconvinience wouldnt be as bad had he hung himself considering it took a long time to "find" him.
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