The Interplanetary Wars - Lore and Theory 

Oh yeah man how cool would it be if you were on a planet as a marine or ODST the first missions fighting insurrectionists then at the mid game the Covenant show up and just stomp the UNSC and you have to find a way off planet before it gets glassed and at the same time gathering intel on the Covenant.

A more advanced “tactical tuna” aka FN F2000 and the beginnings of the M52 Marine Combat Armor Chassis as well as the early UNSC/UEG/Late-UN forces; would be dope...

a game set on harvest would be good, maybe even playing as Johnson

I want that game too but a lot of fans would scream that this isn't halo and that this is a COD ripoff etc... because you're fighting humans and not aliens.

I completely agree with you. However, it would have a difficult time navigating classifications. This would be a highly political, human-on-human conflict based video game. Many (real world) governments would push for concessions, or censorship of certain elements, under the guise of protecting the public from unnecessary violence in video games.

*think C&C timeline* ah yes my childhood game

Maybe Just one where they aren’t hilariously behind in manpower and technology

The whole war was as close to a one sided slaughter as made no difference as well as the humans being outnumbered ship wise if halo 2 can be believed so it was less “wage war” and more the most genocidal game of hide and seek ever

Ignores ongoing UN/UN sanctioned operations in Africa*

@@kriysixvector4552 The UN troops don't actually do anything in Africa they just kind of stand their and look nice. The French, the British, American, and Canadian militaries are the real international war effort in the region.

Execute order 66

Scumbag tried to kill Ashoka

@@cplhotpockets yes

@@cplhotpockets Very fair

I was honestly surprised and pleased when watching “FORWARD UNTO DAWN” when it was showing that they didn’t really know what the covenant was: those marines in that show are training to fight insurrectionists not covenant.

It's several centuries into the future, so you probably would have a dude wearing modern clothing holding a spear in one hand and basically a more advanced iPhone in the other.

@@andyfriederichsen uncontacted pre-civilization tribes still exist in the Amazon.

@@xman5393 I did not know that. I will say that a lot can happen in one century alone, so imagine what can happen in five.

😂😂😂

@@andyfriederichsen I mean kinda got a point there.

UNSC: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gvjOG5gboFU.html

It's kind of funny though, because playing as a UNSC Marine would probably be more like playing CoD since they aren't augmented

Hidden Experia seems to have done a video on that exact topic 4 years ago.

The Expanse:Not bad...

Eh, Earth vs Mars is rather cliche. Not something Halo invented.

@@zilentis1835 Why add Venus into the mix once you'll add it? To make things more interesting? They should of made Venus habitable in the Halo lore.

@@slimerewoods5766 Legit could just make a covenant first content game with marines fighting rebels that unite to try and warn unsc. Or a elite great skism game.

343: "I know! How about a Covenant splinter group we've never heard about? What should we named them? Oh, I know! The Banished! Why don't we make them the main enemy instead of the Prometheans?"

@@ATP2555ify 343: I have another idea, let's make a totally new group of ancient enemies, and call them... Let's see... Generic names that are in tone with Forerunner and Promethean... Got it, The Endless!!! Ooh, spooky! And let's even say that they're worse than the Flood. Yeah, that makes sense. It totally won't distrupt the whole lore about the flood being the most dangerous thing in the universe, right?... *Right???*

number company bad, *insert newest Halo* is the worst game ever made, I'm not wearing nostalgia goggles at all

​@@Deadbeatcowi mean.... they *are* worst than the ogs

It's why I originally why I started watching it as that near future sci fi is cool

@@Ahriman13 Well it's not really near future when it is set 300 years in the future. But I get what you are trying to say. The tech feels really realistic and almost possible with today's understanding of science. It also almost perfectly fits into to the Halo timeline. First of all, with them discovering a way to travel faster than light during the show and the UN needing new planets to colonise because of overpopulation on Earth.

I'd kill for a military RTS game in the Expanse universe. Also an early colonization version of it but especially the military ship aspects. I just fuckin love the ships in the Expanse for how realistic feeling they are.

@@ManOfAnswers Same. I always think to as well is it how UNSC ships behave as well in zero-G like the UN, MCR & Belter ships looking at how real physics work. We somewhat see it in lore how they move around like that in-system, it can also explain for example the Autumn manage to go head to head with 4 CCS cruisers in the Threshold system. It's thrust tumbling like hell all over the place to avoid plasma torpedoes like a out of control brink, pulling Gs all over the place given how the superstructure can handle the pulls, why Keyes enable gravity otherwise the crew would be Swiss-cheese inside 😂. Well as the Keyes loop as another.

I like the expanse specifically because their PDCs exist... and fucking work goddamn. Like nowadays we have giant r2d2 lookin ass robots that can shoot down ordnance the size of a fist traveling easily at transonic or supersonic speeds. These are dumb programs using cold war tech and hardware and even then the phalanx has a 60% kill rate. Newer CIWS have up to 80% kill rates and new german designs have airburst autocannon fragmenting rounds. I find space fighters absurd in ship to ship combat at least in the way that most franchises portray them. Honestly the trench runs that star wars popularized would have infantry with rifles cutting down half a flight of fighters not even considering dedicated high rate of fire intelligent tracking point defense

It was said that he may have won the battle, but he paid a price. No insurrectionist would ever dock with him if he sent a distress signal. Therefore if he was ever actually in trouble, they would let him die.

No quarter either. He has to win every engagement or the enemy will destroy his ship; no mercy, no chances. By the time of his "death" he was pretty unpopular in the UNSC command as well, iirc.

@@kjj26k which sucked because he was such a good leader. Kind of like Ulysses grant, great leader but a total asshole. General Lee was more like lord hood or Captain keyes.

Deception is just as valid of a strategy as brute force. You call it cowardly, I call it brilliant tactics that minimize threat exposure.

How is it cowardly? For one, it would be stupid not to do so if you would die otherwise. Also, Cole was dealing with terrorists, not a legitimate military force.

Well said. I discovered his channel 3 weeks ago and have been watching his content religiously.

@@TheAgletMan If you're one for community sized discord servers, 00's is quite lit.

I know this felt like a Documentary and actually made Halo feel even more realistic.

Thank you for articulating this thought so clearly. I agree but couldn't write it so well

@@nerdrealm5871 Yes.

Your team gets intel that the unsc is working on making super soldiers ( the orion project) and are sent to a unsc research outpost to gather intel in the project but it turns out the project is undergoing testing and your attacked by the spartan ones( Johnson could be one of the since he was in the project) your character could narrowly escape and report back that the spartans already exist..... Or something like that

@@BiasedCookie too much plot armour

@@quintusfabiusmaximus8700 just read about a world rebelling against the imperium, and read along as a chapter of space marines descend to take it back. it's the same result as what would happen in the halo verse

@@deathkorpsinfantryman1898 a rebel surviving spartans for two times is full of plot armour.

@@quintusfabiusmaximus8700 what make you think i wanna see them survive? i support the unsc & the imperium, i wanna the see the heretical traitors be given the emperors judgement.

war. war has changed .

@@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER well war hasn’t changed, but the combat has evolved

The general term of mantle of responsibility

@skitzocalypso _ sergeant johnson voice intensifies but without any intentions

War always changes from wars of total anihilation to proxy wars no war is the same

*remember why C&C mod like Twisted Insurrection & Red Resurrection exists in the first place* oh, yeah this why it's exists...

Something an Innie terrorist would say.

@@Powerhaus88 Fr though imagine exterminating farmers and workers because they think the obviously unfair system is unfair lol

@@TheJackson4eva Yeah, the definition of unfair is always subjective. Also, why don't k'll commies? That's the best thing you can do with them

Why dont you go do that then

If it wasn't for the genocidal alien coalition popping in out of nowhere, the UNSC would totally be the bad guys of the series. Rather than superheroes fighting to protect humanity, the Spartans would be the stuff of nightmares, bioengineered enforcers of a tyrannical, Earth-centric empire that is willing to resort to nuclear bombardment to keep its colonies under heel.

*laugh in C&C vanilla and mod timeline* here hold my scorpion

Perhaps the Freidans had a point?

@@dianabarnett6886 i don't know they seem very lenient compared to the likes of us.

That is because COD completely ripped off everything Halo Titan Fall due to them running out of ideas.

@@austinfisher1015 Ehh it wasn't that bad except for the multi-player. I got say I believe Infinite Warfare was alot better then most people give it heat for. Compared to the current COD scams being spawned I believe Infinite Warfare should be less denounced then it currently is. I give it credit for the space battles they did good there.

@@thorshammer7883 Tge only issue with Infinite was some of the worldbuilding, it genuinely had a lot of potential had they called it something other than "Call of Duty".

@@the_corvid97 Yeah pretty much. By associating it as Call Of Duty it really only served to hold it back.

I liked COD:IW. As for ripping off Halo and Titan Fall. Well honestly those games have ripped off how many sci-fi movies, films, tv shows, animated features and shows, plus books and comics, and lastly even games (board and video) that all came before it. Truth is nothing wrong with inspiration and giving nods to things the creators enjoyed. It is not as though COD:IW was the same thing as Halo or Titanfall. They also had a good point with the name, which related to the setting. War is going to continue. Many idiots called the fall of the Berlin Wall and end of the Cold War the end of history. The reason for that was their idiotic belief that major conflicts, strife, civil wars, wars, battles, and terrorism was going to all become a thing of the past. As if humanity changed magically because the ussr dissolved. Call of Duty calling a game in it’s series Infinite Warfare is just pointing out that it is not going to end, and setting it into a future further illustrates this notion. Maybe they should have called it COD:Neverending History instead? Oh and Halo Infinite is illustrating a similar notion in that the war does not end. I guess Halo is ripping off COD by using infinite in it’s title.

What ship was that?

@@WolfeSaber9933 Corvette UNSC Bum-Rush 😂

I'm sorry, the UNSC WHAT?!

😂😂😂😂😂

“Bro it’s the *RED* planet, cmon.”

@@joshuadarrow best comment I've seen.thank you

Im looking forward to space gulags eh space comraades

@@stoptrudeau42 In space they just kill you lol

The UNSC is a fascist junta jointly controlled by military contractors and megacorporations. This is made very appearent in all extended universe books, though not often touched on in the mainlime games.

@@colbyboucher6391 Not really, if anything its probably.most inspired by the Citizen's Federation from starship troopers. You see very litrle religion, cult of personality or feudalism in it, but all the more xenophobia oligarchic cronyism, and deliberate social engineering.

PRC literally is just the US with all of its best bits removed. People complaining about corporate interest moving US policy seem to ignore how the PRC literally has CEO's as leading members in the CCP.

The human civilization in halo is stagnant, probably most due to its liberal militancy

The UEG are the government, not the UNSC

Also I love the halo war 1 music👍

Google translate checks out lol

A quick look at my history book says, that Germany is still an oligarchy. When did you guys get democracy?

@@nineball9746 www.loc.gov/law/help/national-parliaments/germany.php See. Thats what happens when you read that MAGAt garbage that the right is trying to push at ya. Honestly, I far more respect the German governments approach to freedom than our own. Somewhere along the way of hiring an Orange Con Man we lost our soul. To see that half of my brothers and sisters actually respected that pile of dung is sadly disheartening.

@@ICU1337 an outdated history book has nothing to do with Trump. The failing of the u.s. education system goes far deeper then "OrAnGe MaN bAd".

@@takuame7 I guess it depends on where in the states that you're getting your "education" from. But ultimately yes, it is overall "lackluster".

Falling apart, _progressively_

@@cplhotpockets Shane Miller 😂

@@cplhotpockets no I just cover a different time zone

@@cplhotpockets well I've been on the server since 2019 and got made a mod... Hmm.. early to mid last year

@@cplhotpockets haha I lurk a lot too... Damn I need Wolf's vault boy emote for this

Well when we have another faction to fight that threatens all of us.

@@MandalorV7 nah even during the war with the covenant humanity was being classic humanity and still fighting each other. I know halo 5 sucks from a story/lore point but shit even with forunner robots tearing up the place on that one planet people were unhelpful and pretty much ungrateful there were Spartans there to help. Art mirrors real life. We really are nothing but monkeys with high tech sticks and clubs.

Not really. I’d imagine fighting a Spartan, as a rebel, is kind of similar to Master Chief fighting a Mgalekgolo Pair on Legendary with no shield and partially wounded… Meanwhile the ODST and Marines are also shooting at you… and this would be the difficulty on Easy… 😐

Wait ancient humans managed to leave the milky way? That means that are precursors forerunners and humans outside the milky way, I can imagine giant wars once the three factions rediscover each other

@@mitchell3593 Definitely possible!

Yes, the expanse too

Imo the COD jump does look like a partial transition into slipspace with all that blue radiation (Cherenkov rads)

"Cortana wants to enslave all life in the galaxy!" Insurrection: "CLOSE THE GATES AND KEEP THEM CLOSED!"

Nope, they don’t consider loss of direct control a viable option

I dont know if the simulations are mentioned by name, but in the fall of reach novel which predated the release of CE by like a year it is already made explocit the intent behind thr creation of the spartan program was to quell an inevitable massive civil war in its infancy.

@@cancelanime1507 you don't know the HEV Suit from Half-Life?

@@cancelanime1507 well, best get the series as quickly as possible. They're very cheap on Steam.

& The Expanse as well as that CoD game that takes place in space. 343i can work on something as a separate IP that takes place in the same Halo universe. They could call it a Soldiers tale: A Halo's story or something similar & 343i can deep dive into the political chaos & wars on how UEG & the UNSC had formed as we know it.

@@tristanbackup2536 Infinite Warfare has an interesting concept. Players have always wanted to play as regular units for some time. Maybe as Marines or Army or story of the very first unit of the OSDT. It'll be lacking high tech weaponry like usual as there are fans wanted something that is grounded and realistic in Halo universe so Insurrection Era stories would be it. Will it be a shooter like usual or RTS like HW? Also a Covenant origin game should be on 343i list.

The Paul brothers be rollin yo

coming soon: Noble six Black ink classified missions.

Protomolocue. 🤣

from how someone else explained it to me, the insurrectionists are basically america pre-1776. they wanted to do their own thing but kept being heavily taxed by the unsc while having their needs ignored

@@DIGITALGH05T very cool parallel to consider

m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vKyRtRPLiaQ.html Reach commercial called "the day before" if link don't work