No. The NK came south to find and ask someone what the fuck he was supposed to do with all those zombies and lately a dragon that were thrown at him. He thought asking the 3-balled raven was where to start.
I had been downloading every episode right from the very first, but I watched the last season on HBO. Within days of the final episode, I deleted all my downloaded files and dumped the entire show. Completely un-watchable.
10 years later, people still talks about Harry Potter. 20 years later, people still talks about LOTR. 4 years later, no one talks about Game of Thrones. Thats how much they fucked up at the end.
The star wars sequels are a pile of hot human excrement. The end of Game of Thrones was pretty bad but the beginning was amazing. It's a good thing House of the dragon is a good show
Started rewatching the series. Just finished season 4. I think I'll stop there and pretend it just ends with Arrya, Tyrion, and Varys sailing away forever. What a great show.
@@chucksmalley3987 there were some cool scenes from the later seasons like when the hound hacked those raiders to death or when Cersi nuked King's Landing but that last season just pissed me off
I have a bunch of fond memories watching the show and it had a big impact on what I expect from a well written story. But knowing that everything in the show is leading up to this.... I just can't bring myself to even consider re watching it and I don't feel much desire interacting with the rest of the associated media or discussions about it either. It's definitely weird though, how seemingly an entire slice of my life has effectively been deleted. A real shame.
This. It was a huge hype, with merchandise, T-Shirts, fans discussing every episode - and then it just - disappeared. As if it never happened. The end destroyed the entire thing.
The ending to this show was so bad i forgot it even existed. Literally everyone i knew was always talking about this show... and then the last season happened, and everyone pretended the show never existed. They managed to remove it from everyones mind, which is an insane accomplishment when the show used to be good
HAHAHA! Yeahhh that one one of the +/- 10 facepalm moments in the finale. Apparently I missed Davos telling the Unsullied to settle down and START FAMILIES, but there still were plenty more.
The writing of D&D. These twats got a Star Wars trilogy based on the writing of GRRM. Disney CEO Bob Iger said he hasn't been paying attention to GoT the last few seasons lol. I mean WTF? Do resumes mean anything anymore? Lets hire some guys to handle one of the most popular stories of all time so lets not look into their previous work or how well it was received. Unbelievable.
@@eternalreign2313 You'd think after Rian (I'm gonna fuck up star wars for everyone) Johnson they'd take more care. This really worries me after seeing GoT season 8.
The earlier episodes spoke of debts to the iron bank. Whose representative looked like he could murder you with a quill tipped pen. There was talk of needing time to rebuild armies and resources. Talk of payments and logistics. Where the fuck did all of that go?
Yeah funny how that works eh? Maybe they grow on trees or are tubers like potatoes and just happened to be ripe before the battle 🤣 And maybe Adolf Targaryen still can’t count higher than 20, and Dan & Dave think the audience can’t count either so they just throw forces around without a thought Really, how dumb do D&D think we all are? Did they really think no one would notice??
4 years later, and I'm still pissed off for the choices they made. Years of waiting, excitement, expectations, all flushed down the toilet in two seasons. Amazing.
I am no longer piseed off. For a long time, I was, because I wanted someone who has reach and audience to say it as it is, but all the youtubers and other media criticising the last season of GoT were trying to be polite and academic. They just couldn't or wouldn't say it as it is, that it is a pure shit. But a year or os after the season wrapped up, I found critical drinker, and he said it as it is. His reviews finally helped me to get over the shitfest that was the season 8 of GoT. And I am forever thankful to him for that.
What pissed me the most was the decision to exile John, a person who had always worked for the good. Throughout the series, everything he did was to protect everyone. He did nothing for his own good and sacrificed his life to save everyone and betrayed his queen in the end, because it was the right thing to do, despite all of this, even though he had the legitimate right to rule, love Of people and leadership skills, he ends up being banished to nowhere, even if he doesn't become king, at least king in the north, or lord commander, or lord of a somewhere , he is the character who is supposed to get a good ending that suits his efforts and his character development throughout the story.Even in an imaginary world we cannot see a good person rewarded for his efforts!! The scene when he was riding beyond the wall with the free folks was a heart broking ,he doesn't belong to the wild
What maddens me is that the story was always grounded in political truths: a ruler cannot be strong if succession is not assured, which is why Dany was targeted by assassins and Joffrey's illegitimacy mattered. Suddenly a Targaeryan with a legitimate claim on the throne can be banished on a promise not to come back and contest things and a king can be appointed who can never produce a dynasty - guaranteeing the civil war will start again when Bran dies. Nice one 👍
Dude, same and well said. It's pointless and stupid to have a Stark on one throne and a Stark on the other. The point? Especially when one can't breed wtf... The best way to fix that would be to have the actual classic hero (Jon Snow) with the legitimate claim to the throne defeat the Night King, saving all mankind, and having the stealth assassin (Arya Stark) or the trusted hand (Tyrion) take out the mad queen in one of their clever fashions. This would leave Jon open to taking the reigns alongside his cousin Sansa, uniting the entire continent of wildings, northerners, and southern Targaryen loyalists. If the eunuch army got their panties in a twist, then Melisandre could have used Jon's kings blood to awaken one of the stone dragons on Dragonstone, easily wiping out the foreign threat. Uniting the Stark and Targaryen houses is what will bring stability and peace to the entire realm. Literally everyone but the "writers" knew this, but I guess subverting expectations gave them a bigger boner than writing a cohesive and satisfying story that dozens of people dedicated over a decade of their lives to create.
I’ve been reading up a lot on the Wars of the Roses… which GoT is kinda based on (dynastic wars due to crisis in succession). Problem for a TV show is its theme doesn’t conclude… the wheel never breaks! And the writers had no way of imagining a way out of that conundrum. Same with George M. should Dany rule? Why? Should jon? Why? The only conclusion to war is legacy. Which is why Return of the King ending was so boring.
@@theManishMuse 100% legacy. It made no sense for 2 Starks to rule the north and south, and the south to have an impotent king that couldn't produce heirs. That leads to warfare and why a Queen bearing sons was always so important. Daughters weren't ideal, but they could reign if all else failed and preserve peace. Jon and Dany would have been able to unite both the north and south with their bloodlines, but Jon and Sansa/Arya would have achieved the same result if Dany was destined to die. So many viable and interesting options but they went with Bran the Boring... -.-
@@intpleb4206 it doesn't even have to be clever. Jon is the male heir. He technically killed Dany who was a usurper since the rightful heir Jon was still alive. He broke no laws by killing her and should've immediately been crowned king.
Adam Collins Wealie boi became king cause who is going to be king except the Psychic Computer brain. Who has pulled a Doctor Strange and looked at all possible outcomes and went with the one he became king. Cause a person who has seen all of human history can’t be anything else.
Jon Snow's entire dialogue in season 8: -She is my queen -She is my queen -She is my queen -She is my queen -She is YOUR queen -She is my queen -You are my queen
What honestly boiled my skin was the fact that Jon is the true heir to the throne and NO ONE THOUGHT TO MENTION THIS AT THE END?! Then he’s banished to the Watch but just leaves? Then Bran is just supposed to bow to an unsullied prick who is the commander to a dead queen (meaning he literally has no say or purpose anymore) What the serious flying fuck
@@davidpanepento2998 I would have been ok with Jon not becoming king at the end if it made sense. Jon made it clear that he didn’t want to rule, so why not have him pass the crown off to someone he deems fit? Or maybe he accepts the crown to finish what Dany had originally started? I’ve listened to many other people give ideas on how the show should have ended that are light years beyond than what D&D pooped out.
just turned her in to a world domination cartoon villain .she came to Westeros to break wheel meaning stop the power struggle cycling over and over again then they made her want everyone to kneel and shit like wtf she never even asked slave masters to kneel .
They were trying to play the angle of her being a Targaryen and inheriting the "mad gene". It's just that nothing really indicated at her being THIS mad. She was cruel towards the end, sure, but not this batshit insane where she suddenly decides to torch innocent people and the city she wants to conquer and rule. What was she going to do with the throne and the city afterwards? It's been razed to the ground. It makes zero sense.
@@sleepysleeper3485 If she’s gone “mad” she doesn’t have to make sense, her burning down Kings Landing made as much sense to her as it did to her father. It was also foreshadowed all the way back in season 2 that she was going to destroy Kings Landing in the house of the undying, you literally see the Throne room destroyed. So her going mad and burning them all was always going to happen it’s just that the writers didn’t allow proper build up to it
@@josephstalin2606 give me a break. It was horrible writing. Dany went “mad” and killed people for absolutely no reason. If she didn’t value human life at all, why did she care so much about freeing the slaves? Her entire story makes no sense. D&D are the worst writers in human history.
Things that doesn't matter: -John's lineage -Jaime's arc -Arya's shapeshifting skills -Bran warging abilities -Prince that was promised -Azor Ahai -Lord of Light -horse at the end of episode 5
That horse was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. It was funny in a similar fashion to when Walter found out skylar took all the money from the crawl space
Wrong. They tried to dig their way out of several thousand tonnes of stone bricks, the tragedy is when they almost reached the top, they ran out of strength and died.
I love how the previous episode, the dungeon collapsed entirely. Every wall, archway and brick in the place fell like dominos. Next episode, like 10 bricks in an empty room.
Remember, "A Dance with Dragons" was published in 2011. We are now 12 years later and "The Winds of Winter" is still in the works, with the final book "A Dream of Spring" clearly not coming out this century.
The worst part was the Danae and Cersi showdown. It was built up over 7 seasons and we were expecting some massive battle between the two. And then Cersi is...buried by rubble. What an anticlimax.
And in Season 8, they never have a conversation and only staring at each other. Even Sansa out of people have a conversation with her and even own Daenerys by asking her "What about The North?" When she's finally conquer Westeros. The only time they talked was on the end of Season 7 in Dragonpit andddd that's it!
I watched Mauler's season 8 videos recently and he brought up a question I hadn't thought of - what exactly made Dany stop attacking? The troops/city had already surrendered, Cersei was killed by coincidence with no way of Dany knowing about it, was it just an actual kill count she was after? I've had breakups that hurt less than this shows final season
But GOT has rarely ever went the way the audience thought it would. The Red Wedding, The Viper and the Mountain duel for example. Cerci getting a reasonably tame death and Deaneries turning out to be a bit of a mad Targaryen was about as Game of Thrones-y as you an get in terms of subverted expectations. I wasn’t that disappointed to be honest.
And it gonna cost HBO BILLIONS meanwhile they could of just fired dumb and dumber after season 5 and made 7 more seasons and made more BILLIONS, I swear people are not thinking.
It was actually impressive what the writers actually did. They created the most amazing TV show to exist, they may not even be able to make one that is better. And then they destroyed it in an also insanely amazing way that they destroyed its legacy and memory with it. There are very few shows or films that have ever self-destructed so amazingly well.
They did not create anything they bought someone else's intellectual property and turned it into a TV show. It's like me making a mod for Skyrim to turn into a multiplayer game and then saying I created the best video game in existence.
Having not read the books I could still tell when they ran out of the author's source material. It was so obvious. It just took a turn and you knew that something was missing and it was not good. Unbelieveable that they managed to ruin it so completely.
The sad thing is that they didn’t run out of source material. They stopped adapting it after season 4. Book 4 and five never got to screen and they are both thick fuckers with plenty of stuff going on. With only these two they could have made another two or even three seasons giving the author the time to finish his damned book, and if he still hasn’t then just use the shit ton of sample chapters he released for yet another season. But they were like « nah we’re smarter than him we’ll figure it out »
All these people freaking out like every joke on the internet isn't stolen and reused a million times. I'll do you guys one better. I made this joke while watching the episode when it first aired. Get on my level.
Notice how Arya, Sansa and Bran were all in King’s Landing at the same time? Apparently ‘there must always be a Stark in Winterfell’ is no longer a thing either
@@CODA96 He probably warged into some poor person's body and used him as a remote controlled puppet in Winterfell while he was half paying attention to what was being said in front of him. That could explain the fact that he first said that he didn't want the throne and then said that this was what he had been working towards to all this time.
@@MarcelNL Exactly Marcel. Bran also warged into Ned Stark and let him be killed on purpose. He also warged into Walder Frey and executed his brother and mother. He also warged into Dany AND her Dragon at the same time: Dany never wanted to be Queen of Ashes, but Bran made her do it! And at the end, Bran warged into Jon and he killed Dany, it was just supposed to look like bad storywriting. Proof me wrong, i can explain ANYTHING with ''Bran did it''.
I can never forgive how they turned Tyrion, one of the most interesting, clever and witty characters into a whatever he was by the end of GoT. Its the only purpose he was there was because he was a fan favorite and needed to be on the screen for that purpose only. He was basically turned into an empty uniform that said whatever was needed for whatever shitty plot point they were trying to do in a specific episode
At season three: Friend: Do you watch GoT? It's amazing. Me: Nah, I'm not into modern story telling. Friend: This is different, it's so good, you'll like it. At season seven: *Crickets* After ending: Me: So should I watch GoT? Friend: *Grumbles*
They kept around just to deliver the who has a better story than bran line. They thought the Tyrion fan base would just accept that line cuz he delivered it, I think they knew if he didn't deliver it literally NO ONE would have bought. I mean not many did buy it....
@@Ackalan seasons 1-4 were good, then they ran out of the book material and it all went to shit, not to mention they were left unsupervised by GRRM Also BTW if you're 'not into modern storytelling' what are you even doing on the channel that's all about it? You should probably be on the channel about Shakespearean plays or something
He was my favorite character. Absolutely pissed all over his character by the end. He became predictable and in many ways unpredictable for all the wrong reasons. His cleverness that kept him alive was completely destroyed as his decision making was terrible. I'm surprised he wasn't killed off as every choice he made was wrong.
The story of the rise and fall of GoT is like a Greek tragedy. It was at one point the most fucking incredible show to have existed, that had the biggest fanbase in the world who were obsessed with endless theories about how it would end. Wherever you went, GoT would come up in conversation as casually as football. It was a phenomenon, lightning in a bottle. It was arguably the biggest pop culture touchstone of the 2010`s. And then season 8 happened. In just a handful of episodes they managed to completely crumble the towering monolith they had built. GoT was now a joke, and will forever be remembered as thus. It was so bad it made us question if the show was ever really good from the get go. And if was all because of the staggering hubris of the show's creators and the laziness of the original author. Even if it had stuck the landing in a bumpy way, the show still would have been remembered as an amazing achievement. But they didn't so much land, as more like crash to earth and torch the entire runway. Thus it will remain as a cautionary tale to all those who want to know how not to finish a series.
C) The fact that 10 minutes into the series' pilot established the white walkers as a credible and ominous threat not to be tied up in a single episode by a character that had no emotional attachment to the arc.
@@kene301187 So basically he steals my plan for winning battle royals of just chill until every is dead or out of ammo and hitpoints, then I just swoop in for the win when no one is expecting it.
Season 8 was probably the most disappointing thing I've ever been through in my life. Just years of loving the show, reading the books, obsessing over it, just to end like shit.
How can this actually happen? The show is based on the books of an author. Did the show extend beyond the stories in the books? And if so, did the author not have creative control over what came after for some weird reason? He is/was a cash cow. How would this happen? Did he himself start to not care anymore and give shitty input?
@@Dowlphin Yes, the show extended beyond the books. I think after season six? And that's when it became garbage. I don't know how GRRM allowed what happened in the shows after that point. My hypothesis is that he wanted to retain interest in his final book (Winds of Winter, still in the process of being written to this day!) and so he let the show go off in whatever direction so that his own plot points and arcs would still be worth reading; people would be a lot less interested in reading the book if the show already spoiled everything. Maybe he even knew just how bad the writing for the final two seasons was and let it happen because now everyone who was dissatisfied with the show will be lining up to throw money at him so that the book can wash the bad taste out of their mouths!
@@Palomino0813 That seems to make sense. Although maybe a sincere lack of writing motivation is the driving force. Maybe the show producers wanted to continue and he couldn't keep up. And I could even imagine this connection being relevant. Writing for stupid modern Hollywood can be a downer.
@@Dowlphin That, as well. I know other writers have had issues because the studio they write for has different ideas for how they want the show to go, and both parties tug on it until it just rips apart in the middle.
Dany kinda forgot she liked children. Tyrion kinda forgot he was smart. Jaime kinda fogot he cared about the innocent. Varys kinda forgot he was the scheming spider. The ruins of kings landing kinda forgot they were reduced to rubble. The dothraki kinda forgot they were wiped out. Arya kinda forgot she was an assassin. Grey worm kinda forgot Jon killed his queen. Drogon kinda forgot Jon killed his mother. The lords kinda forgot Jon saved Westeros. Jaime kinda forgot he was stabbed multiple times. Gilly kinda forgot she saw the dagger in the book. Bran kinda forgot there was no night's watch anymore. The wildlings kinda forgot to leave for the north when they said they would. The lords kinda forgot Jon was the true heir to the throne. Everyone kinda forgot the dothraki. Everyone kinda forgot there was always supposed to be a Stark in Winterfell. Everyone kinda forgot about the prophecies. Some suggestions from the comments and more of my own: The Iron Bank kinda forgot about their loan. The Faceless Men kinda forgot they wanted Arya dead. The Golden Company kinda forgot how to fight. Bran kinda forgot he had no power in the south. Bran kinda forgot he didn't want to rule. Little Finger kinda forgot he was sly. The woman in Winterfell Little Finger paid kinda forgot what she was being paid for. Sansa kinda forgot Brynden Tully was a good guy. The Iron Men kinda forgot they wanted independency. Everyone kinda forgot about Dorne. The scorpions kinda forgot about bullet drop. Dany kinda forgot Jorah asked her to put faith into Tyrion. Jon kinda forgot to speak. Dany kinda forgot about her dad. Cersei's soldiers kinda forgot to shoot the scorpions. Gregor Clegane kinda forgot to listen to Cersei and Qyburn. Qyburn kinda forgot to make wildfire. The wights kinda forgot to kill major characters.
it's not that hard. just imagine how a character would react in real life situations. You need to read some elementary things about logic and common sense and you are set.
"What would an evil mastermind who relies entirely on depection do when the lord looks him square in the face and quotes his own evil motto at him, making it obvious that the jig is up?" "Uuhmm... stick around and keep trying?"
"And Bran's like 'Yeah, whatever, I've got more prehistoric wheelchairs to browse.' " It seriously took me almost a full minute to stop laughing. 😂 Also, awesome Terry Funk reference!
There was a question that was ask in the pick of game of thrones success … “Is there something Lord of the rings has, that game of thrones doesn’t?”. Things that it had: -Awesome fight scenes. -Gore. -Drama. -Sex. - Magic. - Well written characters. -Dragons. - Giants. -Zombies. -Culture. -STAKES. The One thing that GOT didn’t have, that LOTR had. A well done ending.
I guess the Wildlings all forgot that they had been granted lands to the south of the wall and that they had been fighting for generations to get south of the wall specifically to acquire those lands so they didn't have to keep scraping a miserable living from the frozen rocks of a barren tundra. I guess they all came down with that amnesia bug that seems to have been going around in season 8.
It's like you expect the people that write four out of six of the last episodes to give a fuck about it? What's wrong with you? Don't you know who you're dealing with?
Yep. The Wildlings were the Mongols. The Wall in GoT is the Great Wall, ostensibly to keep out Mongol warriors, but actually to keep out Mongol trade and keep Mongols out of China. What was a deeply meaningful story resonant with actual human history and complexity becomes a stupid Hollywood Western trope. "Go North young man!" Just stupid.
The Wildlings are the Picts (or Scots). That is Hadrian's Wall not the Great Wall of China (pretty sure GRR said something along those lines at one point). Hadrian's Wall was the wall at the end of the world. The Dothraki are sort of the Mongols, though Mongol cavalry were much heavier armoured and had more archers.
It seems unbelievable that Greyworm and the Unsullied, would just blindly follow Dany after her actions in season 8. I get that they are loyal to her because she freed them. But they went on to follow her because she was good. After she goes crazy, you'd have thought her army would still have the same mental state as before
I haven’t heard anyone mention the second to last episode in which Dany INEXPLICABLY decides to flip a complete 180 and massacre thousands of innocent people. The final episode was irrelevant at that point because the credibility of the characters was already erased.
I binged this whole series in the past two weeks and I was honestly so confused as to why she did that?? Like seeing her character from season one to 8 change so abruptly was like wth???
"I can't believe Dany sailing to Westeros was the final scene of GoT. So sad that HBO decided to cancel the show after only 6 seasons, but atleast it ended on a high note." Almost fixed it for us.
This will be true for me. I've got 1-6 on bluray and wont ever buy 7 or 8. I'm planning to write a conclusion with a friend so I can just reject this d&d pos fanfiction.
@@RJ-cq8dd for me its 1 through 4 and I'll watch 5 just for Cersei killing those sparrow fucks. I bought the books cus of the shitty end so I hope I like those.
D&D wanted to give everyone a happy ending, totally forgetting that A Song Of Ice And Fire was never about happy endings. It was about consequences, for one. Remember Ed Stark and how he was loved and seemingly did everything right and by the book (of honor)? Guess what, that's not how the game of throne works, and he died for it. Everyone who made a mistake in the game of thrones was punished for it. And here we have season 8, where everyone can make the most dumb mistakes and not only get away with it, but rewarded for it. D&D really forgot what made the books and the early seasons of the show great. They valued fan service and nice visuals over great story telling. I can' t believe how dissapointed I still am about this. They had gold, but turned it into shit
Dude probably blabbed his mouth the second he saw someone, for some reason Jon Snow doesn't understand the concept of keeping a secret or just shutting up about literally anything. It's the same reason he just had to tell Cersei he bent the knee to Daenerys when it would guarantee Cersei wouldn't help them. The writers just made him stupid because, well why not?
@@natb9919to be real, that's how all the Stark men were; to fuckin' honest. Talk too damn much. Revelling plans to your enemies and thinking sh!t sweet afterwards.
Yeah instead he just gets sentenced to hangout with his friends up north. And if Greyworm and all of Dany's men are leaving westeros, why do the other kingdoms agree to punish Jon and Tyrion
@@spawncampe Better yet, why is Tyrion punished because he was the Queen’s hand, but the Queen’s literal ARMY responsible for single-handedly slaughtering countless of innocents after she went mad not given any type of punishment? Tyrion is imprisoned, but these guys are somehow still free to make demands?
What about the story of John fucking snow started from nothing never knew his parents rose to the top killed then brought back to life to become the king of the 7 kingdoms but noooo BRAN THE FUCKING BROKEN WHOS MIND IS ELSE WHERE AND DOESNT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING....
@@evoak8575 Are you saying they should have proposed to the Unsullied holding the city and Jon captive, that Jon should be the person who will decide how Jon is punished?
The last episode felt like what happens when you're invested in writing an interesting essay and you suddenly realize the time is almost running out so you shove a bunch of mumbo jumbo to avoid handing in a hanging story
One thing was missing from this review: the fact that a huge fucking dragon is now roaming the world and the small council says (in your words) "Nah, it'll be fine". Amazing stuff. Doesn't change the fact that you're absolutely right; it's been nearly four years and how GoT was treated in the end still breaks my heart.
This is exactly what I said to my wife. It was like watching EastEnders set in westeros. They even cut an argument half way through, pure soap classic. FFS!
Playing as a character who's more intelligent that you are is also pretty hard. I mean, sure, you can just go "Intelligence check!" at every occasion, but that sounds a bit cheap.
Now that it's been a couple years, what's interesting is how thoroughly AGoT has been dropped from pop culture. The actors show up in other media but the show itself just vanished. There's a sense that GRRM won't ever finish the series, may not even finish the next book. Hollywood still has big plans for spinoffs, prequels, etc. but I feel like the viewing public is just done with it. That's a hell of a finale, that it was bad enough to destroy the whole run of the series.
@@LemuriaGames Exactly. Perhaps it explains why D&D suddenly decided to drop out of taking over Star Wars, after having rushed AGoT's ending just to start on it. OTOH, the new prequel, House of the Dragon, is excellent. It started out doing good but not great in the ratings, and then viewership steadily increased as word got around.
It makes me so sad how this show tanked itself. I LOVED this show and it was heartbreaking watching it crash and burn in such spectacular fashion. I can normally laugh off a shit ending to a show but for some reason this one just pisses me off. I’m no screenwriter but I can think of many ways they could’ve done this and all of them are better than what we got. Honestly if they announced they’re retconning S8 and doing it again I’d be fine with that. I’d happily bury this season and never return to it again. Jon should’ve been the king.
@@xshadionytpx7891 Don't get me started how Anakin and Luke's story were pissed on by Disney. I watched Forces Awakens and all my friends gave me shit because I thought it was weak lol. It makes me mad because there are better stories in the expanded universe and video games then that shit show.
I think the worst possible thing that was left was the motive of the night King, the importance of Bran and their connection. I was really hoping to see some massive reveal about Bran being the night king or something. Just a waste of a show, still upsetting to think about the last 3 seasons
Went from “it doesn’t matter whose skeleton sits on the iron throne” to “the iron throne was always the main plot.” I cannot believe the White Walkers got tossed aside.
MADGUNS FOREVER™ I have re-watched the show, and in my mind, the ends at season 6 when Daenerys is sailing across the narrow see. Thats it, the rest is still ok, but compared to early seasons is a dumpster fire.
Captain Caveman Hahaha you forgot that this is a highly infectious disease with NO EFFECTIVE TREATMENT, there are differences its not the same as the common cold. But if you want to go outside and lick hand-rails. be my guest, but if you end up drowning in your own blood, just remember you said it was nothing to worry about.
I blame it on the showrunners for committing to 73 episodes. They were too eager to move onto their next success, and said like a metronome, "73 hours is all we need", when in reality its clear they needed much more time to finish it off and it showed.
The Battle at Winterfell was what really made me realize Dan & Dan werent gonna stick the landing . Sending the majorly out numbered Dothraki right at the Night King was just stupid and as their Fire swords went out so did my Hopes of a good Finally !!!
I gave up watching about 1/2 way through and my husband summarized it for me afterwards. ETA: Just for reference, I've been loyally watching since S1E1 aired, but God...
My favorite easter egg is the Unsullied going to Noth. If you aren't from Noth there is this butterfly there that basically kills you if you don't possess like... Noth antibodies or something? Either way. They will all die when they land and 'viist'. It's a pretty baller move from Missandei not to tell Grey Worm and the other Unsullied about this super important detail about where she comes from.
The fact the two producers still have jobs is proof positive about how corrupt the entertainment industry is. Producing bad but fun shit (looking at you Mike Bay) is one thing, but these two LITERALLY destroyed the final season so badly that it went back in time and nuked all 7 prior seasons, and, it wouldn't be a stretch to think that it will fundamentally impact the sales of George RR Martin's final book when released.
The 'final books' are never being released. He wrote himself into such an awful corner. While shoving most of the characters into a building and blowing them all up was hamfisted, it was probably the best of a range of bad options. However, that doesn't fix others; like how Brienne was literally being eaten at the end of her last chapter. Can't square that with the show.
It's crazy how GoT has been completely forgotten. The last season was such a dumpster fire, that nobody even talks about GoT any more, unless it's to mock how disastrously it ended. A show that was universally praised, that was such a hype, that everyone was talking about and that was considered great by many critics... just cast down to the forgotten abyss because these idiot writers fucked it all up.
"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Daenerys burning down Kings Landing is extremely symbolic. Daenerys symbolizes D&D, and Kings Landing symbolizes the show. And the innocent people of Kings Landing are the fans. Good job D&D. Dumpster fire doesn't even begin to describe this. D&D didn't even try with season 8. Didn't even try.
@@Fabi_87 Look, I understand the appeal of looking to the books for a satisfying end to an amazing saga, but let's get real here. Martin is going to die of a massive heart attack before he finishes the next book, let alone two of them. I mean, he's always written slowly but this absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure if he's simply lost his passion or if he is just incapable of writing a good ending to a book series that is visibly struggling under it's own weight. Either way, he's well into his seventies and weighs as much as a Mini Cooper so I can't imagine a reality where he lives long enough to complete his work. Not when he's currently working at a pace of roughly a decade per book.
@@bredincaptivity4692 They'll hire someone to finish them for him, if he leaves enough notes/instructions on what he was going to do. They did it with Branden Sanderson for The Wheel of Time. They might do it again.
By far the worst thing about GoT messing up the ending is that it has ruined a pretty much one of a kind story. Nothing else comes close to the quality of GoT's many long running story threads and the insane payoffs that get set up over the course of almost the entire story. Now we've seen an ending that was probably very close to how GRRM might have planned, but it was executed in the worst possible way. Additionally, it seems very apparent that the show overtaking the books has played a huge role in GRRM's difficulties with finishing the books. So not only has the show ruined the ending that we probably would have gotten, it has most likely robbed us of any meaningful ending to this story whatsoever. And there will not be another GoT.
So Jon being a Targaryian that was built up for ages actually means NOTHING. Bran being the 3 eyed raven actual meant NOTHING. So much wasted. I just pray the books if they ever get written actually makes this make sense.
i just came here after 3 yrs to say bran is the most evil person in the show he saw the future and let all those ppl die so he can become king 🤮 also jon is still a bastard .raegar was married to elia martell .thats why he secretly married Lilyanna just to fool her
Who has a better story than Bran the Broken? The man who willingly joined the Nights Watch, went beyond the Wall, joined wildlings, climbed that fucking wall on his way back, escaped the wildlings attack, commanded the Castle Black against the wildlings attack, befriended Tormund - the enemy, went to negotiate to hostile Hardome territory, killed a Walker, survived the massacre, got killed, got revived, won the bloody North with a bunch of wildlings, avenged the Red Wedding, became a king, united North, had the balls to go to Dragonstone, had the balls to go to Beyond the Wall again, had the balls to tell Cersei "no knee for you, I already serve Daenerys" in Kings Landing and last but not least, had his own dragon But Bran fell from tower and survived so now he knows useless stuff about history and things, cuz thats more interesting I guess...
''But Bran fell from tower and survived so now he knows useless stuff about history and things, cuz thats more interesting I guess...'' Yes, in fact it IS more interesting than yet another man-hunk/Aragorn-clone taking the throne based on how well he can swing a sword. You sound like Joffrey when he boasted he was gonna hack Tyrion's history book to shreds. You totally don't get the point of the show. People who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. BTW, which country are you from? Did the president of your country wrestle a bear, journey to the South Pole shirtless or something? Is THAT the basis of choosing a good ruler?
@@SerbAtheist I guess letting corruption rot your government and fuck your people in the ass on a daily basis makes one much better candidate for a president than doing a manly deed.
Could've been on par with the lore depth of Breaking Bad and Star Wars, but they just haaad to wreck the show in the final season. An apocalyptic waste. The next generation of showwriters should strive to avoid this disaster
So well said. A huge disappointment for such an incrredible show. But then, that's the modern world we live in now. Such promise and the usual disappointment to follow.....
What was the point of Arya's faceless powers if she didn't use them once this season? Why was Jon a Targaryen if it made no difference in the plot? Why did Drogon think a chair killed Dany?
@@kurdia100 That seems to be the sort of symbolism they wanted to convey, but er, when did dragons become capable of making such sophisticated philosophical distinctions? They have only ever proved themselves capable of understanding a single word. They are intelligent creatures, but the idea that Drogon somehow intuits that the desire for power (the Iron Throne) is more responsible for the death of his mother than the guy he just watched stab her to death, is, for want of a better word, fucktarded
@@kurdia100 Him being a Targaryen is not a very good explanation as to why the dragon didn't kill him. Targaryans fought Targaryans before in succession wars. An example is a civil war known as "the dance of the dragons" between Rhaenyra and her brother Aegon II. It all ended with Rhaenyra being captured and Aegon feeding her to his dragon while forcing her son to watch. I guess you could argue that Drogon "knows" Jon. But he hasn't really known him for that long so it's a pretty lame excuse to me. It seemed like the writers just wanted to have that cool scene because of SiiiMboLisM so they put it in there without thinking too much about it.
George RR Martin carried this show. As soon as he was out it went steeply downhill. Weiss and Benioff were incapable from the beginning. They were just lucky they had Martin
I mean the dude had a history writing books and for TV shows. So he atleast had a good idea of its ins/outs/pitfalls. That being said he should have never sold the rights until he was on his last book. He was naive to think they wouldn't catch up to his writing and blinded by the mountain of cash HBO dumped on his doorstep.
@@pokeman5000 Its to bad we don't get to see the final vision of his story played out on the screen. Maybe he thought he'd pull off a JK Rowling and finish the series while the books were being adapted.
I am of the Opinion that The Reason the Last 2 Seasons and the ending being Trash, we’re because the Last 2 books aren’t finished and there was no source Material to pull from. I hate to Shit on the man, but you have had 10 years to finish that God damn book let alone his series so He is just as responsible for this show going down hill. I am also skeptical where or not the ending to the books will be worth a damn.
Every time I watch this last episode I get soooooooo freaking angry for Jon. What the actual f. They mulliganed almost every story arc to finish this show in such an unsatisfying way. Literally tear up for how bad it makes me feel.
This show ends at season 6, Jon’s parentage revealed and king of the north. Dany finally coming to Westeros with Tyrion and Varys. Cersei on the iron throne. Arya coming back to Westeros. That’s it. That’s the end. Brilliant cliff hanger
Tragic...I've heard no talk of GOT since it ended. Nobody talking of how they miss it, or wishing they'd bring it back. Before the eighth season, i often spoke of buying the complete series once it ended to rewatch over and over. Now i no longer want to as the last season destroyed the series. Knowing how stupid and lame it all ended killed all the passion to reinvest my time in a worthless cause. R.I.P GOT.
I feel the same way. I used to live for GOT. The ringtone on my cell is even the GOT theme. But once the series ended, I just didn't give a shit about it anymore.
That's truly the greatest tragedy of all. They didn't just kill the show. They retroactively ereased everything good about it from existence. They made sure that what arguably used to be, and should have been the greatest TV show of all time will be remembered as nothing more than a bitter disappointment, and in a few years, even that will have been forgotten. It will become nothing more than another entry in the long list of dead franchises that we all wasted our time on. Thinking about this SHOULD make me furious, but the sad thing is that I don't even care enough anymore to laugh about it. I'm just done.
Totally agree, I lived for every new season, watched every episode multiple times waiting for the following week, watched other people’s reaction vids to kill time, bought every blue ray and now it all seems so stupid after the last two seasons totally killed the years I invested.
My friends' honest words about GoT: "We need to find another show to watch." That's how much it meant to them, and they'd been trying to convince me to watch it for years.
TV and movies are becoming unwatchable, and GOT is a perfect exemplar of why. You NEED a well written story with consistent and compelling characters. Flashy effects won't fix a bad script.
the true ending was Ned waking up next to cat during the first episode and saying 'Gods, Cat. I just had the most horrible fever dream.' cut to black and the Seinfeld theme then cut to credits.
The series took an obvious downturn when it became a "girl power" agenda piece. Sansa and Arya became insufferable, which is a shame because Arya was my favourite character.
Sansa and Arya were probably my fave female characters, but the stupid pointless fights they had all throughout Season 7 pissed me off so much, like yeah they didn't have the BEST relationshio(their sisters their supposed to fight) but not after they've JUST reunited.
@@shinyanon7839 Arya being the one to kill the Night King, Sansa being a stunning and brave ruler that kept undermining Jon, and then she got Brexit. Yara ruling the Iron born, the male characters started becoming incompetent. But that's just my opinion, pal
@@liammcnulty1987 lol all of those had reasons (wether it was bad writing or not) behind why it turned out that way though. not cuz of the sake of girlpower. yara’s brother got his dick cut off and basically lost his mind so he IS reasonably incompetent (he always has been ever since he met ramsay), so it only made sense for yara to lead. besides wasnt she always gonna rule it anyway? her father preferred her over theon. the defense over arya killing the night king was allegedly cuz of her training w the faceless men and the prophecy the red woman told her (not saying i agree but like i said, not girl power either). sansa’s arc was hella reasonable. itd be considered an even more bad writing if they kept her that same vulnerable and naive girl she was from season 1, so how is her development and maturing arc girlpower? but ye just my opinion.
I rarely let a bad ending ruin the entire show for me. Many shows still maintain their status despite having a bad ending but in this case it just ruined everything. The final season was so bad that I wish I forgot all about the existence of this whole series.
"I know a killer when I see one" -Arya Stark the Genius, just after almost being viciously killed by Daenerys for an entire episode, along with hundreds of thousands of innocent people What an amazingly wise observation! What meaningful input!
Got to love the hypocrisy and irony. "Why are you here Arya? To kill Cersie but your girlfriend killed her first. She is a killer" And what the heck are you? Was Arya going to tickle Cersie to death?
I WANTED to like Arya but the interviews with that egotistical Maise were such a turn-off. She acted as if she were some type of Wonder Woman because SHE was selected to make "the kill". Arya was just another "tool" in an empty and meaningless toolbox.
@@aileenpi73 Even if she tickled Cersei to death she'd still be killing her. No, instead she showed up, changed her mind after the Hound gives her a logical directive which he admits is contrary to his illogical one, and, glancing down at the map room floor, noticed hey, even this map is stopping West of Westeros, what's up with that? Got a new purpose now, gotta go, Sandor, thank you! She kind of forgot about who she was intermittently (after the hit on the head that concussed her during the exit from King's Landing and made her hallucinate that white horse).
My canon ending: Jon Snow died at the wall. Danny comes to Westeros and conquers the entire nation at massive cost to herself. The night king invades while Bran desperately tries to reach Dany in time to warn her but is killed by bounty hunters hunting down anyone with the last name stark. Danny gets the thrown after losing two of her dragons to do it. The night king sweeps through the land like a plague and the I’ll prepared peoples of Westeros either die to his blade or they starve to death due to the lack of resources as they didn’t prepare for winter. Kingslanding comes under siege and Dany bravely defends the city. Fighting off a two front war between the hordes of white walkers and the starving citizens of Kingslanding who’ve begun to riot due to lack of food. The battle leads to a major collapse of law and order and Dany in desperation to save what lives she can blazes away with her dragon killing thousands while in a state of pure terror. She repels the invasion but kings landing is ablaze from the intense battle. The night king makes his way to the red keep as Dany desperately tries to force him back but must avoid his ice spears that have already wounded her dragon and has begun to take its toll. The night king reaches the iron and turns all of her servants including missandere into white walkers. Dany bursts through the walls on her dragon and burns the night king just as an ice spear pierced her dragons heart and kills him. The resulting death if the night king send a cold wave of ice and snow that quells the fires of Kingslanding as every white Walker vaporizes with him. Dany is left in the cold ruins as ash and snow fall, sitting on the throne alone. The kingdom a frozen wasteland and the last dragon now dead. Her lineage dies with her. Her subjects dead and dying and the prophecy has been fulfilled. She now rules over an ash filled kingdom alone. And the camera slowly pans out as she sits upon the throne in a daze before screaming in bitter rage as she’s lost everything. Cut to black. Credits. That’s a fucking subversion for you. That would’ve fit the narrative and the entire point of Game of thrones. I literally just came up with this on whim. Yet it works way better than this garbage. Sign me up I’ll retcon this trash and give this series a proper ending. At least mine fits in with the prophecy of azure Hai and the ash throne.
By season 6 it was clear there was no way to satisfactorily wrap up all the loose plot points by season 8. I don’t think even GRRM could do it. Of course these clowns did the worst possible job. I swear I heard the Seinfeld theme song during the final King’s council scene
@@DielsonSales Right? The fucking catacombs collapsed. But when Tyrion gets there it's only a tiny piece of rubble in some corner? And the two of them are perfectly fine without a scratch. They would have been mush...such a waste.
I was hoping Tyrion was using the brick on Cersei's head because she got Jamie killed. Nope, Tyrion is sad his sadistic sister, who tried to kill him more than any one on the entire show, had died.
BRAN THE BROKEN, who dreamed that up? Such a huge disappointment and a slap in the face to all the faithful followers of Game of Thrones. We deserved better.
