The IWC Ingenieur Is NOT Overpriced! Here's Why 

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The retail price is $11,700. With that budget, and if you are willing to wait, you can purchase a Date Submariner or a GMT Master II. Also, you can purchase an Evolution 9 Grand Seiko. Personally, if I had that budget, I would rather purchase a Zenith Chronomaster Sport. You can also purchase an Omega NTTD Seamaster, but I also think that watch is overpriced. I am not going to say this IWC watch is overpriced, but if I had $11,700 to spend, would I buy it? Hell No.

Is not , is only grossly overpriced ! Hope they didn’t payed for this video .

The movement in ingenieur can be found in another much cheaper watch from Baume Mercier. When people pointed this out, instead of upgrading the movement of this watch apparently they are going to downgrade the movement in the Baume Mercier. Dodgy strategies like this are also taken by Panerai, Cartier and probably many more.

Personally think it’s a bit overpriced. You could get a Baume et Mericer Rivera (particularly the translucent dials) with the same 5 day power reserve movement for ~$4k.

I adore the dial colour! This is the prettiest version of the Ingenieur yet. Great take Harrison!

Always nice to see someone go out on a limb .... however, nothing I've seen about the watch screams that it's worth over $10k. The design isn't that stunning. The movement isn't that great. At a time when 90% of inflation is caused by greedflation - IWC went the wrong way on this one. If they'd priced it in the $6-7k range this would have been a homerun and a gateway drug to get folks to the IWC brand. Full disclosure -- I own two IWC watches. I'm a big fan of the brand. This pricing made me like them less. As far as the Genta design? anyone can homage that for inspiration.

The beautiful scenery and videography effort is duly noted.

I own this watch. It's really one of those watches you can't fully appreciate until seeing it and actually wearing it out. The engineering of the details and fitment of this watch are amazing. The bracelet is more comfortable than any of my Rolex and the fact that a 40mm integrated sports watch wears small for its size is a revelation for my small wrist. The aqua dial is a highlight. It's a mix of blue and green but I'd definitely define it as a green dial. The best part of the watch, as you said, is the design. It's brilliant in my opinion - a blend of the Royal Oak and Nautilus.

great watch, the baume and mercier movement in it?

The color is called amazing. Always love the outdoors videos.

Overpriced? Maybe, but it's absolutely stunning!

Harrison, I really appreciate your reviews and generally gel with you on most of your assessments. However, I have to tell you that I'm not tracking with your justification for the price here. The Genta design is not even one of his most iconic. And while this dial is amazingly detailed and a beautiful color, it's not 10,500￡beautiful. Stainless steel with a fairly routine movement (which, as you point out, you don't even see) - I just can't get behind IWC's pricing strategy here.

My Globemaster has a similar butterfly bracelet, you do get used to it. I personally think this is more an 7 - 8k watch in steel.

Your video comes in the most perfect time for me. Just got a white dial and the thought of it being overpriced kept bugging me (watching too many influencers i guess...). I totally agree with everything you said. I had an AP15500 and the IWC lug to lug feels much better on my 7 inch wrist.

Great video as always. I personally think it's over priced but then again I'm not a fan of the Gerald Genta/ integrated bracelet fad. Doesn't Breitling do double voted A/R coating with a blue tinge?

The color is called teal. I also heard petrol or forest green. It is a mix between blue and green and as such shouldn’t be either one. Love it so much.

for me it is overpriced for this price i got an el primero 21 chrono.

Really wanted to hate it when i walk into their boutique, but after trying it on i think it is under value and will definitely get one😅

Man those visuals!!! 😍 absolutely crispy 👌🏽👊🏽 I actually really like the Ingenieur…..but prefer the ones with the brushed centre links. Best combo would be this aqua with brushed centre links strap. Further…controversial statement but I think the Laureato does it best. Yep…even better than the GG ones..

We need more content like this. What we usually sees is how beautiful watch is under the neon/LED lights of controlled environment or small room, not much we would see someone wearing watches, especially if it's not tool watches, on real environment, outdoor, or test it as it should be. BTW, the colour between blue/green is called "Teal"

I’m excited to hear this take, because I cannot see how it’s not grotesquely overpriced at the moment. Edit: The editing in this video is off the charts 👍

I love the watch, but a 40mm integrated bracelet is just too big for me personally. But the biggest issue, especially at this price point, is the omission of any on the fly micro adjustment is just criminal in the eyes. If Christopher Ward can provide it on their new 12 model, then why can't IWC.

A lot of people call the Ingenieur the weakest of Genta's integrated watch designs when compared to the Nautilus and RO. For me though, this incarnation of it is amazing. I like that you can get a thoroughly contemporary, well-specced, Genta-designed integrated sports watch that doesn't come with the price tag or social baggage of a RO or an unobtainable Nautilus. There were some stinkers in the line's history for sure, however, they've nailed all the details in this one. It's number one on my list since trying it on. Love it.

I'm still undecided if it's worth it, but I've tried all the steel ones on and they're brilliant. The Aqua is my favorite. I'm normally not a polished center links guy, but it just works so well here. It doesn't feel too blingy. The comfort/size on my wrist is just perfect too. If you look at them on Chrono24, it seems the Aqua is either JUST below sticker new, or well OVER. Maybe the market is speaking on the pricing and saying it's worth it. I've not tried the titanium model, unfortunately. I hope they release others in the titanium line at some point though.

I tried this watch on a couple weeks ago. Its maybe 2k too much at best. Yes same movement as Mark 20, BUT finishing on ingeniur is done to a very very different level, that's what is most time consuming in watch manufacturing, and time is money. The bracelet is better than omega, chopard and better than jlc bracelets. RU-vid comments are filled with Walmart people, people who have never seen the watch, people that have no idea what fine details and finishing is and how difficult it is. In person the watch changed my mind on a few issues I had with it, and considering iwc had over 1 billion in sales last year, they are selling just fine

The watch is phenomenal and unique with the aqua leaf. She is worth every penny! I saw the watch at W&W 2023 and immediately went for it. Wearing it is always a feeling of happiness and you can feel this great watchmaking art on your wrist!

Over-priced, over-sized for me, external crystal coatings, no fine bracelet adjustment and last of all I can't help seeing American flags all over the dial. I'm not American so that alone would have nixed it for me.

umm, oh yes it is!

Very stunning beautiful dress watch for me especially in this color that you present is just fantastic!!! 💪👏👍❤️❤️❤️

This dial color is “Turquoise”which is a weird bluish green color that is!

Does it have a micro adjust?

After taxes this watch comes in around $12,500 . With all the other competition out there offering tremendous value , no shot this is worth that price. I’m sure there are people paying that but let’s be honest this is a $7k-$8k value at best.

More videos showcasing Scottish landscapes. Try Loch Lomond.

Stunning watch, and second hand prices are dropping below 10k. Fingers crossed, it hits 8k which seems a more realistic price.

Sick North Face jacket!! Cheers 🍻

It’s an actual Gerald Genta designed watch, not a Genta inspired designed watch, where you don’t have play AD games, have a spend history to get one, then beg to be allocated one - seems like added value to me. I waited last year for it for just one month and now they are cheaper in the grey market. And now they are just add to cart in their website. I purchased it since I liked it and I don’t intend to sell it. Also Harrison mentioned it too, the only integrated watch competitor that fits better than an Ingenieur are Parmigiani Fleurier models. I tried on the VC Overseas multiple times- such a weird fit to me. AP was dainty and Nautilus was the ok of the three in terms of fit for me. You’re getting a Genta watch that is cheaper than Chopard and GP. The movement could be of debate, but other brands share movements as well.

Beautiful watch worth the money. I may get heavily criticized for saying this, but what do you think about the price of a Royal Oak or Nautilus we have seen a billion times? PRX’s or Christopher Ward do not come close in terms of fit and finish and IWC pilot watches with the same movement retail for at least $5.000 to $6.000. So would the « right price » be $7.000, 8.000 or 9.000 ? Maybe, but this is not enough to consider it « grossly » overpriced.

Nothing like a hike in nature to revive, enjoy simple things, with the new Ingenieur on your wrist and a bag of Charlie

It's definitely more green than blue, but it's meant to between in between.

Just because you say it’s overpriced doesn’t mean the other features aren’t 100% true. It’s just priced when the market was up. Drop this a few grand and there’ll be lines at all boutiques.

Is something between green n blue I believe maybe call it petrol!!!maybe anyway who ”cares” is just adorable!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️

People aren't asking IF its overpriced, they're asserting it & you dispute that, you are in a minority, its hilariously overpriced. Also turquoise is what you call blue/green ffs.

The color is turquoise. Problem is for 11-12k eur, i believe it's overpriced. You can buy an Evolution 9 GS, and if you save up 1 more k you can get your hands on the Tentagraph, which has a magnificent 36k bph chrono movement. This watch should have been 8-9k max.

Here in the americas we have the color turquoise.

Total mistake, its insanely over priced! Freaking ridiculous 🙄

The mental gymnastics used to justify the price 😅

Obviously it is not overpriced because it sells. Personally I think most luxury brands have promoted exclusivity simply by putting their prices up. A very successful marketing strategy but not one that particularly appeals to me.

It is. But a fine watch non-the-less.

Yes it is. Shouldn't be more than 8K USD.

I honestly don't understand why people think it's overpriced. This is a brand on par with Rolex in quality. This watch rivals the Royal Oak and Nautilus, yet costs a fraction of those. It has a proper in-house movement, so of course it can't cost £5k. You're getting a far more special watch for the price of a boring Rolex steel sport watch - how can you complain. If a sub cost half of this, you could complain, but unfortunately the reality is that luxury watch prices have increased all across the board.

second market already selling at 80%

I am sorry, but here you are wrong. And the market agrees. Pre-owned prices dropping even with the limited supply (for no reason).

Let’s all be honest - all watches are overpriced, and yet we buy them anyway! For me, no I wouldn’t pay what they’re asking - too many (what I think are) nicer watches I could get for the same money. But the blueish colour is stunning

The word is turquoise.

Yes OvErrr Priced.. if the watch retailed @ $7-8k perhaps .. maybe just maybe, (another If) it had a display caseback. Too many Genta looking watches imo

I prefer the Chopard Alpine Eagle. Also, much more $, but VC Overseas blows this away.

It’s definitely over priced especially for that movement with the jumping second hand when you pull the crown out. It’s not even a chronometer.

Omega constellation says otherwise!

Would have been a modern day icon if it didn’t have crown guards. I would have paid $12,000 for it. A miss for me, IWC.

Ingenieur Chrono !

The face screws of an AP, the strap of a Nautilus, the dial of Cristopher Ward, the markers of Rolex, and the mechanism of Timex.

It's looks verry beautyful, but def. over-priced.The colour, for me, is Petrol! Vg Vid.

Time and date only, should max be 65-80k.

The real question is.. is it a sellita or eta movement... then it is overpriced, is it a in house??? Then maybe worth it! I would rather buy an old model

… it’s teal. That’s the word you’re looking for

Io lo trovo strepitoso ❤

Why dont you buy it then?

I always hear people saying “comfortability”, is that even a word?! 🤷‍♂️

You have lost a great deal of credibility from this video. I'd rather have an equally good Baume & Mercier Riviera (from the same parent company) and $10,000 USD in my pocket, and so would 99% of other watch collectors. This video is a slap in the face to the watch community.

can get 2 retail new omega for that money. yikes

Dude it's way overpriced. You know it is. I don't why you put this video up. I don't care if it's from genta, it doesnt look like it's worth that much. Your audience agrees.

What about the (slightly modified) ETA movement?

Really, it's not overpriced because of the who designed the original?!?!? So by that same logic Omega should charge a lot more for the Genta designed Constellation? The value proposition of a watch design is based on its constituent parts, level of finishing and supply & demand. The movement is the same as the B&M Riviera that has a saphire dial and open caseback for £3,600. I challenge you to point out what aspects of the Ingenieur justify a £7k uplift for a watch that offers no micro-adjustments on butterfly clasp, no quick change bracelet and a closed caseback! Leaving us with supply & demand, sure IWC don't make that many watches to begin with, but is that because they aren't as popular as other mid-tier luxury brands? The pricing has more to do with Richemont's pricing strategy amongst it's different brands rather than the real value of the watch, especially after they jacked up JLC prices by 45% in one fell swoop a year ago. But that's a topic for another discussion!

Sorry, the price justification makes no sense. Gerald Genta didn’t design this watch. He designed a watch for IWC in 1976 that IWC’s current design team drew inspiration from and evolved. Which is exactly what IWC’s design team has done many times with the Ingenieur…this is just the first time they’ve had the gall to charge for the association. This would be no different than VW suddenly slapping an extra 10 grand on the price of every new Golf because they decided to evoke Giugiaro (a far more important designer than Genta in every measure) as the designer of the original model in 1974. Or, more directly, if Seiko added a few grand to the price of every Giugiaro-designed watch they reissue. But they don’t. Because that would be stupid. I do appreciate your Gucci reference, though, because it really lays it out plain: You’re not paying for the watch, you’re certainly not paying for the Richemont-sourced movement, and you’re certainly not paying for an original Genta design…you’re paying for the IWC logo on the dial…and to the extent someone puts any value on that logo is really the answer to “is this overpriced?”

Try the PP 5711... Trumps all.

Its 4000-5000 $ overpriced

They do some fairly decent reps of these.

The comparison between an artist’s work and watches is a bit of a leap. Art pieces are made directly by the hand of the artist and can no longer be produced after his/her death. Often art pieces are unique and one of a kind. These watches, either by IWC, PP, and AP are mass produced and have never been directly made by the hand of Genta. They will be made in perpetuity and have no correlation to the life of the original designer. So to say that the high price of the new ingénieur is justified because Genta is no longer alive is preposterous.

Well, I know I’ll get a lot of flak for this, yet I own an extremely beautiful watch, build quality is way above average, finishing is impeccable, it is one of my most comfortable pieces to wear, case and strap conforms perfectly on my wrist, it has an amazing dial with patterns and colour that changes with every movement- and it looks exactly the same is this IWC- Only it is an Ix&Dao Engineer, with a PT5000 movement and it cost me 290 dollars. 🤷🏼‍♂️. One of my favourites in the collection, by far. It is a scratch magnet, because it is polished so well, so I already used a Cape Cod cloth on it once.

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Provocative title, not convinced though. No mention of the movement, and ending the argument that it’s worth the price because some dude is dead when this isn’t even the version he designed, was a weird end point. Love the content, just personally disagree on this watch’s value proposition for me.

To start with, your explanation of “is it overpriced” is absolutely awful, (sorry) yes the watch is worth more money than the baume&mercier Riviera ( it’s the same movement and spec) because the bracelet and the clasp is fantastic, so ok let’s be fair, very very fair, that takes it to being worth 5,500 -£6,000 tops. it’s horrendously overpriced. when it came to answering the hard-hitting question “ Gérald Genta they can charge whatever they want” IWC sales are down but for now profit is the same. it is an absolutely fantastic watch but it’s overpriced, wildly overpriced and the market for that watch is a very niche market.

It’s not over-priced. It’s under-featured.

It's massively overpriced! The Genta tax is disgraceful..

No I don’t need to see it from the brand’s point of view. They’re beeing too greedy. If something doesn’t sells, than lower the price until it does. This is called market correction, and I don’t need to hear these brands throwing a hissy fit because they overpriced their product.

It's green...... How can anyone see blue in that..... It's green

I like your videos but this one is just way overpriced. They should developed and used a more advanced movement for this one.

Even engineer cannot afford this. Explorer much better value money

As good looking as it is overpriced.

IWC is overpriced as a brand.

"you need to see it from the brand's point of view" - yep, charge as much as they think they can get away with and laugh all the way to the bank!

It’s absurdly overpriced. But then what “luxury” item isn’t? Should have the micro adjust bracelet though.

Overpriced, under-specced, Genta-milking flop. Doesn't even have free-sprung balance.

It is not even COSC certified at 14 000 euros? Come on with this kind of money you can buy Omega. And it is not OVERPRICED? With this kind of statements you will destroy your channel's reputation...

All luxuries are overpriced, go buy a casio if price is your concern. I ordered the titanium anyway.

Overpriced. I have an Omega SMP Electric Blue swords hands. Purchased it 10 years ago 1.6K £. That IWC is no better.

By far overpriced. Heavily. Baume et Mercier does with the Riviera a nice watch with the same movement for a fraction of the IWC price. Genta design als well.

Definitely overpriced. I will wait for more to hit the secondary market to establish the true value of the watch.

Everybody complaining that it cost too much……your broke ass don’t have to buy it…..you probably can’t if you’re complaining about it lol