Katanya beberapa awak kapal selam ada yg ikut berjuang waktu perang kemerdekaan, beberapa sakit, beberapa ditembak pejuang krn dikiria orang Belanda, makanya ada makam awak kapal selam di Indonesia
@@danubrahmanta8298 Hij zei dat verschillende onderzeeboten betrokken waren bij de strijd tegen onafhankelijkheidsoorlogen, een aantal ziekten, dat sommige krijgers door de Nederlanders werden doodgeschoten, dus er waren tombes in onderzeeërs in Indonesië
Did you forget the Japanese-Soviet Non-aggression Pact, signed on 4/13/1941, which allowed the USSR to move its Siberian divisions to defend Moscow in Operation Barbarossa?
@@siberiantiger3917 but Russian would break it as soon the Germany were defeated, this non aggression pact was never to be trusted from both sites. The Russian wanted their former land back mostly Sachalin and Kuril Islands, which they did after the first Atombomb fell in Hiroshima, they needed to act as long Japan was still fighting the war. They lost it during the Japanese- Russian War in 1905. The reason why Japan never actually broke it, was simply because of the Pacific War, but they too would break it as soon the Allies in the Pacific Theatre were defeated, which never happened.
The Japanese didn’t have the steel or enough spare heavy production to build tanks in any realistic numbers but the main problem was that the Japanese Army didn’t really put any effort in tank doctrine or training for officers in tank warfare.
The Japanese main opponents were Chinese that would fight and then retreat to new positions, they would give away land for time. They were playing the long game. There was nothing for Japanese tanks to exploit. The Japanese didn't have a lot of use for tanks in defensive island fighting. What they could have used was small mobile tank destroyers taking advantage of interior lines. But they were going to lose anyway.
@@hughg.rection9673 thats irrelevant? the fuck does losing a carrier in midway does to japan having a proper tank force before they event went to war with the allies
>Sherman crew lands on Japanese island >All quiet >88 fires and knocks out a Sherman from bushes >What the hell! - Sherman crew > Is that a.. Tiger! - Sherman Crew >*Que Tiger Battle theme from Fury*
I was thinking, no, the jungle conditions and teeming rains that produced quagmires would've gobbled up a heavy tank like the Tiger, but then I recalled the Australian Army deployed Centurions in Vietnam with fairly good service record.
the US deployed M47s and M48s (as well as M551 Sheridan, and others) under the same conditions, but the mechanical record of both of those tanks were sterling, and both the US and Australia had the logistics train to support heavy armor in those conditions. The Japanese were stretched too thin by the time the Island Campaign began in depth. They might have been useful as pillboxes, though, given their toughness.
Mud would have definitely posed a problem but the Japanese really didn't fight in or from the jungle that much. Aside from the isolated sniper or two, the Japanese preferred to operate in the open, like any other army, rather than in the jungle.
Marc Conyard That's because like any good Aussie, we taught our Centurion's how to do the Aussie Crawl, ie to swim freestyle in the mud it's the only way to move around.
Despite it's size the tiger had such a big track that it's ground pressure per square in was quite light. That issue not withstanding it is questionable whether the Japanese could establish a logistical network to support a tiger. The big issue would be the deployment of tigers to the Pacific islands. I speculate that it would have been viable for the defense of the Japanese Homeland only or China
A Tiger wasn’t a Centurion. The Centurion was more advanced and reliable than the Tiger, in addition, supply and maintenance techniques available to the Ozzie’s were far more advanced and effective. Not to mention 20 years to refine doctrine, tactics and procedure, as well as arty support and air cover. But we can all admit that Vietnam Nam wasn’t really a tank war. The biggest turd in the punch bowl, would be the Japanese lack of heavy lift capacity. They could barely serve their existing island hopping and light infantry intensive military... to move a Tiger, let alone a Tiger unit and the attendant fuel and maintenance supplies was difficult for the Germans, it would have been essentially impossible for the Japanese. Further, w out proper doctrine, a Tiger, in the jungle or more common mountainous terrain, slowed and stripped of infantry, would have been relatively easy prey for the crowbar and satchel charge. Japanese Tigers would have likely been wasted as pillboxes w a mobility capacity. The Japanese would have been far better served by buying or building licensed Panzer III’s. (not the Stug. It wouldn’t adapt well to jungle warfare) The Panzer III was much better than the existing Japanese junk tanks, an established reliable design, superior to anything the Japanese would encounter in China and with the long 50mm (provided an HE shell was available) an easy equal to the M3-M5s the US favored for island warfare, and not too disadvantaged against a Sherman at close range and a side or ass shot ( kinda like the Sherman vs. the Tiger), not to mention relatively easy to transport and support. Besides it was cheap!!! Anyone disagree?
@@MarkFeltonProductions thank you very much but i hate the comment thats make fun of history u can see dow there so many,i love history and i hate someone making fun of it
Suspect that a Japanese viewer of this channel will no doubt be petitioning his government to insist the Germans deliver on their contract. A rebuilt Tiger (not to mention Panther and 2 Panzer III’s) would do. Would the Japanese take some Leopard 2’s instead?
I don't think they need them these days! Even compared to monsters like the Challenger 2 and Abrahms tanks, the Japanese still have access to some pretty lethal stuff if they wanted it. Their 'Type 90' is a very capable vehicle. Thankfully it seems they learned a lot from WW2 and state that they only have an army for self defence purposes now.
If I had more money than I could ever spend, I'd invest a lot into retrieving the original blueprints and have a new one built to original specifications. I can't for the life of me figure out why no billionarie has not done so yet.
When Tiger was successfully ship to Japan In Okinawa Shermans: Why do I hear a boss music? A Sherman who was fought in Europe: Ah shit, here we go again...
Wow, I had never heard about this before... Love your style of hard-hitting research and concise presentation without any modern-day History Channel fluff!
A big thing people forget about Japanese Tanks is they were very good when built and extremely good for the area of use they needed them for, Even the out dated tanks managed to cause havoc especially against the British in the early stages as they had no tanks to counter attack with, It is a similar story in China with the early tanks the Japanese rolled over their enemy it was not until the Chinese were given their own tanks that it started to get messy. Japanese tanks even stood up to Russian tanks at a few stages. By 1940 onward they were no good really for what we consider modern tank use, but they were light agile small and nimble which really helped them in the jungles and were easily shipped to small atolls and islands.
Allied soldier: Haha we won the European Theatre, lets help our allies in the Pacific theatre now Japanese Soldier: We have a tiger I Allied soldier: Ah sh*t here we go again
Mentioned the Sherman and Lee tanks could knockout a Japanese tank My Dad when he was younger and a Mud Marine in W W 2 watched an M - 3 Stuart knocked out two of the previous mentioned I J A Tanks ( I J A = Imperial Japanese Army ) The Stuart M - 3 was the smallest Tank in the U S Arsenal.
I forget now which book I read the account in, but there was a Sherman crew who fired on a Japanese tank and completely freaked out because it seemed like their shells weren't doing a damn thing. Finally they tried an HE round and the tank went up like a Roman candle. Afterwards, when they examined the wreckage they saw that their initial shots - all with AP - had simply been punching through one side and going out the other.
@@Carandini - As the saying goes, armor less than three inches thick only serves to detonate shells that might have passed with little damage otherwise.
japanese tanks where pretty much italien-tier tanks outdated trashcans for the middle-end of WW2 >inb4 yes, they may have better ones, but most where just thin armored... trashcans.
Mark, thank you so much for these videos. Decades ago I believed that I had already heard countless times all there was to say regarding WW2. Then you come along with these wonderful videos. It’s like learning about WW2 for the first time again. Thank you so much!
An excellent video, Herr Felton. Most sham-documentaries re-use the same footage over and over, and narrate with opinions. Yours was informative and succinct, and not political. As the grandson of a Panzergrenadier Leutnant (who would go on to be a STASI Oberst), thank you!
Fascinating vid. 👍👍👍👍👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 'Behind-the-scenes' of Axis exchanges, trade agreements, & cooperation really adds a little-known, often overlooked facet to WWII history. Could you do more? 🔎📚❓📖🔍
Sorry I'm late to the party but I just now came across your channel. Excellent work on an interesting subject. You Sir, have just gained a new subscriber. Thank you!
Well done. I have read your book on the Japanese Gestapo (Kempei), and you have a great depth of knowledge. I am pleased that you can maintain your objectivity, which is not always easy given the subject-matter with which you are dealing. The Japanese version of the ME 262 is an interesting topic, and I have made a scale model of it.
This is fascinating stuff tbh. I have seen and heard most stuff about WWII, but this video with the details, was simply neat. Good going Mark! Loved it!
because they already had a shitton of light tanks that are mostly competent, they probably wanted heavier tanks to combat the soviets or if operation downfall was initiated
Knowing what they had already bought from the Germans I am not surprised they were interesting in the German tanks. But all things considered I would have thought they would have been better served by technical information, as well as the plans for the various tanks in use by Germany.
Buying would be faster for them, since it takes time to set up factories, get the tooling made, and train personnel to produce the tanks. So by buying them they would have tanks ready to go while they're busy setting things up to the produce them domestically. However, they probably would have a hard time producing Panthers and Tigers due to the lack of raw materials and competition with the Imperial Japanese Navy for them, esp. for steel. When it came to strategic resources like steel, priority always went to the IJN so at best the Japanese Army would have only been able to produce Tigers & Panthers in very limited numbers.
@@Riceball01 I seriously doubt that Tigers and Panther would of been suitable for the Pacific theater. Japanese tank designs are the way they are because of the local terrain. Heck I seriously doubted the heavier Japanese designs. I think the Chi-Nu was the best design the Japanese came up with that would work in the local terrain. In fact the Chi-Nu was a working design that was produced in 1944 to 1945. Problem was the Japanese kept it for home defense making it useless. The Chi-Nu was based on Chi-He so it didn't even need to wait for Germany to give technical support. It was the perfect tank to build, but the IJN needed the steel for destroyers and carriers. Tigers and Panther would be too big for SEA jungles and even in the home front, most Japanese bridges would not support them.
Not an expert but shipping just the blueprints and related stuff and lightweight parts only may have helped more than waiting for the single item in vain.??????
Waqar Ahmad I remember an interesting point when I was reading about the 1911 pistols, and how the modern productions of these pistols are nowhere near as reliable as their older counterparts. You can produce every part of a machine within specifications; but when you fit these parts together and expect it to work, chances are some fine tunings are needed even if everything do fit. And that’s why just having a blueprint won’t help the Japanese produce tigers. They need to know how, and where to modify it if they ever do produce one in their own factory.
@@eugeneyesledge It certainly was a problem with production back then, as often times blueprints were made, but in production things were modified. A similar thing happened with the Saturn V F1 engines, which you would not be able to reproduce with just the blueprints alone nowadays, as many parts were hand crafted or hand modified during production. With todays computer aided and robotic design and manufacturing technology, though, you would be able to transfer a blueprint and have the parts fit together without trouble. Still doesn't mean that you won't make modifications to things, like the US did when they adapted the Rheinmetall 120mm gun for the M1 Abrams in the form of the M256, using slightly different alloy compositions to deal with somewhat higher pressures in the barrel and a different recoil system and rotating the breech block by 90°, so that it fit in the M1 turret.
@Soren G From what I understand the Chi-Ri was never planned to mount a modified Type 99 88mm gun. Instead it was planned to mount a variant of the Type 5 75mm with a loading assistance tray. The tray is the main reason why the Chi-Ri's turret was so large. Although the Chi-Ri never actually had a main gun mounted before the project was cancelled.
There is a training movie from the war showing how to defeat the Japanese tanks. There was a depression in the hull at the back of the turret and an object the size of a canteen could be thrown into it and jamming the turret. The track sprockets were kept tight by a metal arm that could be cut by rifle or machine gun fire.
TheSturmovik Like they can move a tiger tank within a small tunnel network. Even if they did get it on the surface and conceal it the tank would eventually be destroyed by the constant naval bombardment since the whole island was a giant crater by the end
Dig one of them into a beachhead and you would've had quite the defense. Not to mention that and all the artillery and heavy armaments the Japanese could muster.
If frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their arses on the ground. It was never going to happen. Japanese industry was too weak. Also remember the Germans had Tigers, Panthers, and bears oh my, and it did them no good in Normandy and France.
This is too heavy for the rainy season of far east.. it'll be stocked in mud yet a city can be a place to deploy such heavy tank against Sherman and Stuart...
Yes, German U-boats had small bases within Japanese naval bases at Singapore, Kure and Indonesia. One U-boat actually completed a combat patrol in the Pacific.
I love these insights. Through your videos, I have come to understand more about the alliance and corporation of the Japanese with the Germans and Italians. I never could understand why Japan decide to join with the Germans but through your videos we get insight into the relationship. Thank you for making these videos, they are great. .
@@MarkFeltonProductions True. But the Germans needed a second front opened against the Soviets. Looking back at it, Japan was foolish to have started the war in the Pacific against the U.S. I understand their perspective for doing so, but man they really misread the tea leaves
Its unlikely the Germans even had enough tanks to send back then anyway. Even when they invaded the soviet union in 1941 they had less than 2000 Mark lll and Mark lVs to hand
Makes sense on paper and in theory . . . but do you really want the Japanese to have been more successful by doing something like that? They were some of the most cruel and barbaric forces of WW2 as it is - I dread to think what more they would have done to the people they invaded if they had been able to eliminate the threat of Russian intervention. It took two nuclear weapons to convince the Japanese that it was futile to try and convince their population to defend against allied troops with sharpened sticks and roadblocks. God alone knows how many more they would have killed, tortured and oppressed if they had a 1000 German tanks at their disposal, even if they were less advanced designs than Tiger 1. Interesting thought experiment though.
Thanks for another interesting video. The Japanese had plans for a really huge submarine on the drawing boards in 1944. It would have been nearly 500 feet long, have a submerged weight of about 9,000 and, except for two torpedo tubes and as many as fourteen 25 mm machine guns for self defense, it was strictly a cargo submarine. It had two eight foot hatches and disappearing 10 ton cranes to handle the expected load of nearly 1,000 tonnes of cargo. The Germans badly needed tungsten, tin, rubber, and opium for making morphine. Due to the active fighting on the Eastern and then the Western front as well, the Germans were going through morphine faster than they could produce opium poppies. The Japanese needed the high quality aluminum and steel the Germans were producing, plus plans for the Tiger tanks, propeller and jet aircraft, and German radar. I doubt the idea of shipping a complete Tiger tank to Japan was ever a serious proposition with the I class subs. Needless to say, the Japanese cargo submarines were never built. The Japanese did have one success transporting cargo when they converted the I-351 from a seaplane carrier to an oil tanker. She made a successful transit from Singapore to Japan carrying 500,000 gallons of high octane aviation gas. This could only be produced by former British Singapore refineries because Japanese refineries were built to produce larger quantities of lower octane gas. This was fine for earlier Japanese planes, but not for the larger, higher horsepower liquid cooled inline engines being built from German plans. The I-351 was headed back to Singapore on July 14, 1945 when she was sunk by the US sub Bluefish. I'm sure you already know this, but the only navy to produce pure cargo subs in WWII were the Italians. Only having some antiaircraft machine guns for self defense if caught on the surface by allied aircraft, these 2,100 ton R class boats were built for trade between Italy, Germany, and Japan. They could carry 600 tonnes of cargo and could travel 14,000 miles unrefueled. They were potentially valuable transports, but the only two completed boats were sunk, one by the British sub HMS United and the other by allied aircraft within days of each other in July 1943 before they could complete any missions.
I am very interested in the history of the Second World War and I got a comprehensive library about it (and even read the books :) ). Still, Mark Felton manages to dig up stories from which I have never heard anything before. He tells them factually, precisely and without any unnecessary pathos. Very good work!
@Fire Power701 @boltanadzo TV Not really, in many ways Imperial Japanese Empire, was probably better off for metals & metal bearing ores/rocks than Germany was, at least at the start of their respective hostilities. They did get some plans/details of the Tiger E/1 (H), as when combined with their improving Type 1 Medium Tank Chi-He (2601/1941) & Type 4 Medium Tank Chi-To (2604/1944) design trends, with Eatern Front combat data, lead towards the Japanese's interpretation of a Tiger, the Type 5 Medium Tank Chi-Ri (2605/1945) prototype machine. Another thing that really didn't help them was the continued heavy rivalry and hatred between the Army and the Navy, and the few things they tolerated having to share. Generally dispising being forced to if not help each other, then at least share some information enough for pre-planning purposes - you could say the Japanese Military was like two non-identicle twins who immensely disliked the other, barely communicating at all to other through the struggling War Office parent. The Japanese only really lacked rubber and oil(s), enough of a merchant fleet to transport supplies, troops and raw materials, or the need to keep producing its merchantmen. Also lacked foresight to create a back-up encryption codes & methods not related to existing systems still in or withdrawn from use, and the continued priority of aircraft, ships and ammunition over and before any vehicle & small-arms R&D. with regards strategic materials & personsal/workforce allocations. I do not mean to give offence, or the impression I support or condone what acts of horror some of its imperial troops/politicians did do.
in a defense situation, the steel be better morfed into (towed) antitank guns and artillery, than into heavy tanks. Japan had plenty of good functioning artillery and antitank guns to do a better job of defending the home land.
Tanks are effective wherever they've been used. I read a book about that subject years ago which gave example after example of tanks being used effectively wherever they were tried. One story was about how they pulled tanks out from Mogadishu - because they're not intended to be in an urban environment - and as soon as they did the situation deteriorated. People stayed off the streets with a tank prowling around.
