Am I the only one that liked having Joker by my side? He literally was like a sidekick. Whenever I was stuck he'd give me a hint and I'd be like "OH RIGHT YEAH THANKS JOKER" It was sad to see him go lol
People weren't upset that he was in the main trilogy they were upset because they crowbarred him & his origin into Arkham Origins after claiming that he wouldn't be in it.
blackdemonknight I thought it was pretty obvious he'd be in as a hallucination. I mean, in the comics Batman hallucinated about Jason Todd's death when Scarecrow gassed him immediately afterwards. I figured it'd be the same case with Joker and Talia here. Speaking of which, why doesn't Talia show up during any Fear Gas segments?
CheesyGranola I think it's cause the fear toxin was affecting the Joker Blood inside Bruce given that Batman was focused on getting a cure for himself and the other Joker's and worried about becoming the new joker hence those times Joker comments about getting stronger via the toxin, ironic since that same toxin helped Batman finally defeat the Joker
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Iambic Pentameter Probably took one look at the script and decided it'd be too fun to pass on it. I mean you could hear it in his voice, he was LOVING this.
Very well written game. These scenes really display how well Batman knew Joker. His sub conscience version of the Joker was indistinguishable from the real one. He also knew the Batman’s vulnerabilities and insecurities and made jokes on them. Very good writting
I mean yes and no. Knowing that Joker's infected blood literally turns people into...himself...It's the disease aided by Bruce's sub conscience and perception of Joker. And, even worse, with the fear toxin, his fears are added to the mix. That is why Batman had such an awful time against Scarecrow in Knight but not in Asylum (His fears changed and his resolve was weakened due to Joker's blood)
Some say in order to pull off the best character voice you can, you sometimes have to literally become the character your voicing....sometimes however, that can have some minor...to severe side effects as you'd imagine literally creating another you inside your head...this game even kinda emphasizes this.
There’s a compilation of Mark absolutely SHITTING on the newer Star Wars movies meanwhile in the behind the scenes of Arkham City he’s having the most fun! He’s smiling and physically acting with the script. Makes my heart happy
Yeah, I know. It's where he became Joker in a vat of chemicals. But in a plot twist, Scarecrow made his toxin in ACE chemicals and then after Batman couldn't confront Scarecrow and got stuck into the chamber and gets gased a bit of the toxin he started to encounter the hallucination of Joker and he still had his blood since the events of Arkham City even though Batman drank the cure in the end of City to feel better.
Resumed his role as The Trickster in the new Flash TV series Surprisingly returned to his role as The Joker in Batman Arkham Knight Returns as Luke Skywalker in The Force Awakens 2015 is the year of Mark Hamill
38:00 I just realized “Only You” started playing in the background when Joker exited his vehicle. If you didn’t know, at the end of Arkham City, Joker left a voicemail for Batman, three hours before he died, of him singing “Only You”
Another little detail, at 23:47 robin is on batman's right and joker on his left when deciding whether to go in the cell or not. Like angel and demon on either side when deciding whether to do the right thing or wrong thing.
I am shocked how well they were able to keep this a secret for 2 years, I mean this is the internet. We know the games that are going to be announced before the actual people making it knows they're making it. Yet we never knew that not only would Joker be in Arkham Knight as a central villain but that Mark Hammil would return one more time to give Joker the final send off.Also bummer ending seeing Batman pull a Dark Knight Returns at the end
The ZombieMan I think the Secret from Sony that the Final Fantasy 7 Remake being under wraps was a crazier secret to hold for about a year. That was a shock.
The ZombieMan I actually like it. That means they are brining the story to the end and there is no need to speculate further. It's the only logical thing Batman could have done.
The ZombieMan Right, but I wouldn't call him a central villain. He doesn't drive the plot. He doesn't do anything, except in flashbacks. He's just there, cracking jokes here and there, and showing how Batman reacts to the fear toxin. Still liked him, though.
I have noticed something about joker. If you look at his face over the course of the game, his scars slowly disappear. I guess it represents him getting stronger
@@badreedinedjellali1328 no it’s actually jokers blood that was given to Batman when joker infected him with his blood Batman cured his titan poisoning but jokers blood was basically tainting Batman slowly turning him into a new joker. scarecrows fear toxin was accelerating jokers blood taking over Batman mind and at the end of the game when you play as joker killing the villains that was Batman’s fear of joker taking over and when it appears that joker has taken Batman’s place strapped in the Arkham asylum bed it shows that joker has taken over but then when scarecrow gets impatient and injects Batman with more toxin since joker is now in bats body it shows jokers greatest fear being forgotten which is how Batman defeats joker by locking him away in the recess of his mind
I think the laughter in the background is a nice touch. It really accentuates the fact that the Joker is in Batman’s head like a ghost who won’t stop haunting him. Literally
Without having played this game, I'm liking this. Some people prefer the idea of Batman being mentally perfect, personally I like to see a weakness every now and again. And here they show that yes, even for batman, things can creep into his mind every now and again, and he still doesn't really let it show.
Crimson Ace I don't think anyone believes Batman is mentally perfect. Joker has got it right all along, Bats is traumatized and has the need to protect the city that did that to him.
+Crimson Ace While this last game wasn't exactly mind-blowing, the Arkham series in general is good in showing the flaws of even this incredibly strong Batman: his pride in thinking he can save the city without help, plus his love for and protectiveness over the small family that he has, forces him to push people away. His pride was well shown in "Arkham Origins," while Robin's and Catwoman's interactions with Batman are good demonstrations of the burden of pushing away allies in "Arkham Knight."
Batman is flawed. He dresses like a god damn bat. He's obsessive over his crusade. Most people move on with their lives, he never let his parents murder go. He's still stuck in the last, still full of fear. I used to want to be like Batman, but then you realise he's fucking miserable. There is no happy ending for him, at least not for this batman. He will keep on fighting his crusade until he dies, and when his body no longer let's him, he will be alone.
Batman is a grown man pummeling mentally ill criminals in the rain to compensate for the deep psychological trauma caused by his parents' murder by a petty criminal which he never managed to get over, arguably making the crime situation in Gotham much worse with his vigilante justice. He's a man who constantly lingers on his depressing past, making his life utterly miserable in a mental sense. In some interpretations, he even finds moving on and living a content, happy life to be some kind of betrayal to his parents. He's far from mentally perfect. His whole character is that he is a very mentally unstable person.
One thing I really liked about this was that it was, on some level, up in the air until the twist with Henry as to what exactly is really going on (and I'd say, still kind of even from that point). I read it as a bit of a self-fulfilling psychological prophecy. Batman thinks he's been infused with enough Joker-blood to transform him, and the prospect of the Joker running around with his body is absolutely terrifying. So when he gets dosed with fear gas, his mind begins implanting the possibility onto his perception of reality, and overriding his own mind in some cases (the bit on the airship, in particular). It's driving home the point that Batman is more than a little crazy in a way that he makes sure no-one ever notices. I also love that as much as they explored the possibility that Batman is quite fucking crazy, they also dipped into Joker's mind and asked "What could possibly scare this guy?" The brilliance of the answers they came up with is that they're the same things that scare anybody; death, irrelevancy, and the Goddamn Batman.
ISchulz Nice analysis. In Batman's case having Joker's blood in him as well as being sprayed with Scarecrow's fear toxin turned out to be a bad combination.
ISchulz so he is afraid of death but he want to die at hands of batman .. irrelevancy perhaps but ain't the point that joker gets how meaningless that is? and the batman? really ? wasn't he the one that laugh at him ? ..that sound more to me like the story is trying to force batman as the answer to all questions like how we see scarecrow is also afraid of batman .. i
Take me on home to the asylum Never alone in the asylum Anarchy ruled, it was wild but through it all, you never smiled Jokes on you, I'm in your head so look who's laughing now Remember in Arkham City I killed your girl, so pretty That was the night you let me die but when I looked you in the eye That's when I knew we'd be together Look who's laughing now! I'm stuck in your head and I'm laughing I filled you with dread and I can't stop laughing Your parents are dead and I can't stop laughing What else can I do? Now I am part of you I am the clown prince of crime and we've had a hell of a time You part of me, I'm part of you and now there's nothing left to do
I'm a few years late, but I've just noticed: in Barbara's 'death' scene, Joker actually pushes the gun. If you pay attention to that detail, you could realize that her death wasn't real from the very beginning. Incredible attention to detail there, bravo!
@@ktsm I'm a year late but wasn't that whole thing a hallucination? Which means the Joker really did push the gun because... He's also a hallucination?
@@panonymousbloom5405 When you go back after seeing Barbara still alive, you see the corpse of some random militia grunt on the chair, the implication being that Batman hallucinated the grunt as Barbara (Same as how he hallucinated a random Arkham guard as Gordon in Asylum's first Scarecrow encounter).
A bit late but here we go. Crane also never does a specific mention to what is happening until Batman calls for Barbara, then he says "you see it now". And keeps speaking based on Batman's reactions. A little subtle way of saying it ain't real and Crane is using his psychiatrist abilities to guess what Batman sees, using his taunts and words in order to condition Batman to see what he wants him to see. Basically, Barbara commiting suicide.
Joker is like Voldermort but somehow this tine he gelos Batman and Boldu never helped Harry might be a helpfull for destroying another part of his Soul Who was inside Harry Potter in HP 7 Part 2
I find it strange that in the scene with Barbara's "death", Batman didn't realise that "joker" physically moved the gun towards Barbara, he should have noticed that something was off.
Fear toxin isn't just pure fear, it also gives massive headaches that barely allow anyone to think straight. This is specially true with the new formula in Knight, as seen by Owens stumbling in the diner in the intro or how the mooks die naturally in the Cloudburst
Alfred Pennyworth quote from "The Dark Knight 2008" 39:20 "Some men aren't looking for anything logical." "They can't be bought. Bullied. Reasoned. Or Negociated with." "SOME MEN JUST WANTED TO WATCH THE WORLD BURN"
That punch barrage at the end reminds me of the one in Origins in the chapel, all the way back when they first fought each other. Nice nod, to be honest...
Come on baby beat me till your knuckles bleed and why stop there haha you know there is only to stop me. And I also performed a beat down before throwing him in the cell to remember the first beating Batman ever gave him
The fact that Joker helps you from time to time with hints and what not shows you not only does Batman have a little bit of Joker inside him, but Joker has a little bit of Batman inside him as well. Their two sides of the same card.
Love just how scared and shocked the Scarecrow looks like at 40:37-40:57 when Joker laugh at his face, because it shows that for all his theatrics and monologues about being the master of fear, the Scarecrow is really just a wannabe compared to the true master of fear that's the Joker, because he represent the inner, chaotic darkness of the human nature that we all fears will one day consume us all and make us destroy the world as we know it, while the Scarecrow just somebody who tries and ultimately fails to tame and control that same darkness.
It's also the fact the the person in reality who's laughing in his face..is Batman. You're whole plan has been to make the emotionless man scared, and he starts cracking wise and laughing in your face? That's how you know what evers happening, you've lost.
He doesn’t know it’s Joker who’s he talking to. Joker is immune to the fear toxin but when the real Batman appears to try to regain control of his own body that’s when Joker started to fear. He’s afraid of being forgotten.
Ironically enough, Scarecrow is objectively the one that utterly broke the Batman, he walked just so the Joker could run. All of the fear gas, the manipulation, the schemes, the betrayals, Scarecrow might had some unintentional help from the Joker’s blood but his new plans worked PERFECTLY, down to the last part of his multifaceted plan worked because he managed something that no other villain has done, not even joker himself. He killed Batman, not in the physical sense, but his symbol by unmasking him to the whole world. He made the legend of Gotham mortal and so, Batman lost his stronger weapon against the crime in Gotham, fear itself, the night that no criminal would tremble in fear at the sight of the Bat symbol in the sky, is the night that the dark knight failed, and Scarecrow, not Joker, succeeded in his plans. He might had been defeated by the end, but Crane won the war.
I honestly love how they did it, he still is an influence in the game but this is a new idea, and I really like the constant dialogue that he has during the story.
Heath Ledger is probably the funniest Joker ever. Him smacking a guy at a party “You know where Harvey is? You know who he is?”, saying he can’t feel pain in his hand since Batman already smacked his head on the table, saying hi to Harvey, even having trouble blowing up the hospital. Second funniest Joker in my opinion is Jerome from “Gotham”
"Bruce,this is your Father, we need to talk... about the dressing up" "Bruce, this is you mother speak...HAHAHAHA, Im sorry, its...its just...because they're DEAD, HAHA"
"What better place to turn someone insane than the madhouse? Oh I really miss that place, don't you? Who knows, maybe one day we'll end up back there." ARKHAM ASYLUM/CITY REMASTERED COLLECTION CONFIRMED. Please let it happen soon!
The Joker: "You know, you almost had me scared back there! ME! Haha! What have I got to be afraid of?" *Intensive Treatment Sign comes on* Me: "Oh sh**." Batman: "You're afraid of being ashes..." Me: "OH SH**!!" ((The only time Batman directly addresses Joker in this game is to say goodbye.))
"Oh come on Batman you think you're different because you never killed anyone? News flash! you killed me! I was there, remember?! you destroyed my cure, right in front of me! watched me choke on my last laugh. And then, after killing me, you said you would've shared! you couldn't admit I'd won, could you? not even as a parting gift.......but now I'm on the inside , ooh we both know the truth. Yes, you've killed before and tonight I'll make you do it again!"
batman wouldn't be batman without the joker so people stop moaning about him. anddddd id be quite happy for the joker to be in every thing because hes the best creation ever :)
After playing the game I am sorta going to miss the joker. Like honestly now that he is done for I'm gonna miss him and all his commentary and randomness.
when he started to close the safe on Joker, then he us RIGHT there "I wouldn't want to be that guy" and that is when I hurt out laughing joker not just a name
You know Joker's role as an antagonist sort of decreased as the games went by He was the main in Asylum, in city he was the secondary in origins I belived he was the secret main and in this one her was the third antaganist after Scarecrow and Arkham Knight. But what never changed was he was always the final boss in the main story of the games.
Technically, Joker isn't an antagonist in Arkham Knight. He is just a hallucination to Batman. He tries to make Batman lose his mind but throughout the game Batman learns to deal with him and Joker considers Bats a friend.
Mark Hamill is great as always! His Joker has some of the best dialogue in the Arkham games and his performance makes it all the more compelling. I seriously hope they cast him in the DC animated movie adaptation of "The Killing Joke" next year! I'll be severely disappointed if they don't.
Well they already confirmed Kevin Conroy will voice as Batman in The Killing Joke. I'm sure Mark Hamill will return, because he did say that " he would love to do The Killing Joke before he retires the Joker character."
Allan Romero Actually, they just announced that Mark Hamill has, in fact, been cast to voice the Joker for the "The Killing Joke" movie about a week or two ago, which I'm very ecstatic for! :D I've heard that Conroy was interested in voicing Batman for it as well, but from what I've read, he's yet to be confirmed for it.
It's my head canon that Joker's consciousness wasn't ever actually in Batman's mind. I believe it was a representation of what Batman was really afraid of. What he was truly afraid of. Forgetting his arch enemy and best friend, the Clown Prince of Crime. Of course he was also afraid of having the manic's loss consume him and take off, turning him into another Uncle J. Though I feel that ending with Joker being taken away in the deepest corners of the Batman's mind is what he never wanted to do. Bruce never wanted to face up facts that his equal is well and truly gone, he never really wanted to move on. That Joker was never really the real Joker, he acted like it, talked like it, even felt like it, but it was Ol' Pointy Ears's Insanity trying to break out. Atleast that's how I saw it. Arkham Knight, to me, is the best in the series for the hidden moral I saw in it. Someday, we'll all face our greatest fears. Whether it's the fear of someone close to you dying, or allowing madness to consume you or flat out forgetting a loved one. Ofcourse, I doubt many other people saw what I saw, art is in the eye of the beholder. And if this game ain't art, Joker ain't smilin'. This game is prefect on so many levels.
People say this game was buggy and relied too much on the batmobile, but I gotta say after seeing this, it kills me that I don't have a current gen system to play this :(.
I didn't find it buggy, but it definitely did rely too much on the batmobile. The only thing wrong with it imo is that they made the boss fights with the Batmobile, but other than that the Batmobile was a game changing addition. It's hard for me to go back and play the previous Arkham games without that mobility
I like how even though he's a ghost or hallucination, he still obeys the laws of solid spaces. He's leaning on railings, he's sitting on beams or crouching in vents, if I were him I would be floating or phasing through everything lmao.
Antonio Luevano It wouldn't really be the same. My personal favorite villains are Hugo Strange and Two-Face, but Joker is also pretty cool and it would be a shame if he never existed.