The Judging Axes: Fi Te and Ti Fe 

Is it possible to give an example of some sort? Like a quote?

I appreciate they try but not easy.

I hate it cuz I feel bad I feel like I have to be happy cuz they r and that makes me feel fake. I feel like if I show how I rlly feel then il be ruining their mood and being a burden

I completely agree with this. I LOVED this video, it’s the best comparison of TiFe vs FiTe I’ve ever watched and I’ve been into mbti for 8 years. What makes this series so effective is that it’s addressing the pair functions as one, because that’s what they essentially are. You simply can’t properly explain Fi behaviour without Te. Same with Fe without Ti, they’re the same thing and can’t exist without the other. Every Fe manifestation will have a Ti core and every Te behaviour will be drawing from Fi, once people understand this they’ll be less confusion around type.

Are the two of them going to stop making videos together?! That’s a shock, how come?

@@b_nadams Yeah, she said Alex took an indefinite leave. Not sure what the reason why is

@@TheSdennis89 Ooo, true! I have a slight confession: I had recently been feeling like Fe/Ti people weren't "real people" because I noticed a distinct lack of them talking about how achieving goals would make them feel and I started to think they were empty husks of people just kind of wandering through life. BUTTTT, now I get a chance to look for their "Ti core" (as you put it) and I'll finally see them for who they really are rather than trying to apply an "Fi core" understanding to them.

Cummmer Yeah I understand that. I think if you watch Michael Pierce’s video of NFJs vs NTPs part 1, it will make more sense actually.

But what if Ur fi dom but are influenced by others feelings but definitely aren't fe cuz u hate conforming and are awk expressing emotions

@@bethanysingsmrs849 I'd say it's different being swayed by others feelings than conforming to others morals. Fi is more about honoring one's internal moral code, so if the external moral atmosphere (such as social norms) is incongruent to that there may be some issues in the eyes of Fi. And difficulty/awkwardness expressing emotions is something a lot of people have regardless of cognitive functions, and certainly more divisive in Fi and Fe users, as those types are likely to either be incredibly reluctant to showing emotion or really eager to, with less frequency in the middle grounds (not impossible tho)

I think I can sort of relate, the course I studied seemed cool initially until the reality sunk in that I couldn't find a job after I graduated. Then i realized its the wrong course. I'm not sure if its linked to the Te ladder analogy though because I did want to do something creative as a career but things didn't turn out that way. Maybe more Fi being oblivious to the Te reality of not finding employment in that field.

i agree, both Fi (understanding yourself) and Te want to achieve (your goals/tasks) while Ti is focused on understanding the world and Fe is understanding the group. it can be interchangeable tho since Te also means you want things to make logical sense, you want to understand. And Fi does try to understand others, even puts more effort into it compared to the more automatic Fe way-

I understand that as well. I can be personally sympathetic to an individual I relate to or like but taking Fe into account in relation to groups was a struggle. I’d just prefer to make a direct decision based on the best information at any time even if it steps on some people’s toes. Having to go around asking each person what they’d like or want seems tedious.

Everybody experiences empathy, but Fe and Fi go about it differently. Fi users are good at putting THEMSELVES in other people’s position, while Fe uses imagine how that person experiences the situation. Ironically, if you compare people with F similarly stacked, Fe users are more accurate but Fi users are more confident in their empathy. As an INFJ, this irks me so much about INFPs

Jay Taggert can you enlighten me? What happened to Alex?

Thank you.

Yeah i'm the same. I also use Fi and Te definitely, but I wish I had more Fe sometimes.

You are so lovely and your voice is youthful and enlivining.

Ne is the ISTJ’s inferior function, so i think it’s interesting how you use it a lot

May be you are confusing your Ni as Ti. Just an opinion

its true im fi-te and understand ti-fe At All which is why im watching this vid lolol

Thanks for your kind words :) Love your content! I think that's true. My Ne love the abstract, but when it comes to definitions, I find it a little awkward to define something a certain way while knowing I've come across examples of exceptions (which is probably decent Si). Te is just that, working with information in the external, so I guess it makes sense that for me, listing a bunch of examples is more comfortable than describing an internalized principle. Alex has higher Te, but she still seems similar in this regard. Since Ti is internalized, it seems natural that logical principles would become "entities" separable (but not necessary separate) from the external world, comparable to what Fi does with emotions. Our work with visual typing is also more examples and observations rather than principles; it's rather fluid and has gone through a lot of trial and error. I'm finally settling on definitions and explanations for those (no videos yet), so Te definitely seems to work from the outside in while Ti seems more inside out!

she only explained the general concept of Fe, not sure If this could ever be helpful for an intp lol not saying you didn't mistype, but yeah - it wasn't the best analysis of Ti Fe from my point of view

I actually act like Fi a lot. When others fight or do stuff I only get angry once I position myself into that situation or else I don't feel angry or sad about that idk why that happens. But once I position or imagine into that situation I can cry for like hours. It's just that Fi users maybe have difficulty in expressing emotions and controlling them

Generally, infp's are mistyped as intp.

Ti always looks for logical consistency. Ni is just "getting it", even if a bit fuzzy on the precision of logic. As an Ni dom, I do use some Te logic to aid, but once I "get it", accuracy doesn't matter as much to me, because I get it now. This abstract concept is in my head in a form of a compressed memory. I hope this make sense. I can only imagine Ti just trying to make up their own "theories" that they use.

@@Diaming787 "...accuracy doesn't matter as much to me, because I get it now. This abstract concept is in my head in a form of a compressed memory" -----> hell yes ! But it's hard to say sth when in random time sb ask you about details "how did you know that it's logical" Ygh... I can explain my conclusions but some past facts&data after making conclusions are useless to remember all/most of them, only some are worth - the rest you (I) forgot or your (my) mind create kind of abstract ball of them in my head. And it's uncomfortable to explain this properly. /INTJ

Ciaran O'Gorman alex would devise a plan, if not already has a contingency plan for this scenario

Derek Townsley Alas her Fe polr didn’t see it comin 😢

Hmm... maybe they are in "grip" mode

"2+2=4" ~INTP

@@Jorginhoflu1000 I’m probably about to sound stupid from your perspective but to me that doesn’t help me get Ti, because you’re citing a thing that is empirically consistent (ie actually works in practice).

INTJ here, and I'm in the same parallel boat as you with high Ti and blindspot Fe. Just need to work on my Te as that is my responsibility. Here is the thing, don't use the percentages from the 16personalities test. Mbti tests are just plain inaccurate. Also, just because you are one type, doesn't mean your life has to be that type, even though you are born with it which cannot change. The biggest problem in mistyping is looking at behaviors and stereotypes, a big no-no. Look at the *motivations* is to why you are doing it, based off of your functions. I hope this is Te clear to you.

​@@Diaming787 Yh, I understand not relying on a test like MBTI. I mainly just used it as an example to paint a picture for people since that's mostly where they come from. My sister is an INFP so I know well what it's like to have Te around, I just barely care for it on a personal level. It's usually an annoyance for me to have to put specific sources to a conclusion I came to when doing research for example, but it's just something I have to do. I really would never want my life to be like the stereotype. In fact, a large reason for the stereotype existing is because sites like MBTI capitalize on the stereotype of someone that's unhealthy in regards to how they use their functions. Ideally, no matter what type you fundamentally fit into (the way you *process and understand* things around you, which MBTI doesn't address well like other sources I had found), you should be capable of reaching into any or most of the 8 functions in your own way to be healthier. The more mixed your own development has been can also give you the incorrect type on a test like MBTI. For example, many of the people who fit the stereotype of an INFJ had to learn boundaries while I ended up barricading myself with boundaries more or less so I had to learn to let people in. A big part of that is the fact that I never felt I could emotionally rely on everyone around me. I noticed things too well, recognized my limits within society and it affected me a lot to know that I couldn't just be more grown-up because I wanted. I had to wait years which ended up costing a lot of my motivation. The way people grow in typical human society sucks ass. I'm 20 but plenty of times it's like I'm 80. - And this has been an unnecessary tangent, but basically, cognitive function types have more to do with how you process things, but everyone should learn to access at least most of them in their own way to grow as a person.- The way I imitate Fi is that as a kid I would gather information with Fe, but then infer and make my own opinions on matters by thinking about what would generally be the best way to think about it, using my Ti to synthesize said information and come to a conclusion that is both logically and emotionally the most "good", the most "right". This led to me questioning religion at a fairly young age like 4-5 even. I could weed out inconsistencies and things that after some thought/forethought, clearly weren't actually benefitting society. Maybe you yourself in some way worked to imitate Ti by using Te as part of it and/or there was a reason you'd end up limiting yourself to just synthesizing over reviewing a lot of outside sources and/or there's a reason you would end up building on something you saw or read and never really checked up on as many solid facts. I feel like it's interesting to think of these little things that give extra insight into why you've developed the way you have.

@@MCPanda-bl3nc your comment is full of past experiences. So I guess you are an Si user. May be you are an intp or isfj.

@@vivekanandgorle3770 The way I am correlating past and present in my comment is to show people how I came to understand my own use of the functions. Core Si users will definitely use the past to make decisions on the future, but I don't... instead I use my intuition, Fe, and Ti to make decisions about the future or pretty much anything. Just because I am able to reflect on my past and how I used functions doesn't mean I use Si in my everyday life to make decisions. Infjs I think use Si in more of a way that's to their disadvantage. Like getting stuck in the past or experiencing it when they are forced to use in a situation. Infjs don't care to trust the past to determine their future. My mom is an Isfj and though we get along great, we also don't always get along because the way we approach problems is so different. She's very by the books, using existing frameworks and her past experiences living according to how she was raised and grew up learning. I don't do that. I like starting from a blank slate usually and work my way around taking information with Fe, using Ti to synthesize it, and using Ni to guide everything looking towards the future. It's just how I am. Though my Si may still be higher than one would think because I've been stuck in the past a lot. I've learned to deal with it. I'm capable of learning from the past but that doesn't mean I let it influence my future other than the fact that those past experiences are already part of my current thinking process, which will continue to evolve as I synthesize new information. Remembering and explaining myself to this extent shows more awareness of myself than the stereotypical INFJ you see described everywhere, but that's just because I've learned to reflect on myself and develop my own sense of self.

@@MCPanda-bl3nc first of all, Si is not decision making function so no one use Si to make decisions instead they use this function to take information which means collecting information through senses like remembering life experiences and reading books etc. And the perceiving function will be combined with decision making function. For example, for intp , they use ti ( their first function or hero function) and Ne ( their second function or parent function) for this purpose. people stuck due to loop between hero function that is first function and child function that is third function and both exist in ego. For example, for intp, this loop will be Ti and Si loop. And every person admires their fourth function and wants to improve it more. For example, for intp, Fe is fourth function or inferior function. So intp thinks he wants to improve Fe. He will get annoyed if he or anyone don't use Fe well. For example, if someone don't care for social harmony then he will get annoyed. And first four functions are conscious functions and next four functions are unconscious functions. And fifth function that is also called as nemesis function. One doesn't use nemesis function so comfortably like other functions. He uses it like an opposing force. For example, intp uses nemesis as Te. It means when someone gives some logical information , you will question it or oppose it or suspect so this makes you to not use this function comfortably. And sixth function is critic function. He will have very critical view over this function. For example, intp has Ni as critic function so he is very critical about his future and thinks that he is missing something important for the betterment of the future. And this makes them difficult to use this function comfortably. And sixth function is trickster function or blind spot function. And problem with this function is that person cannot use this function properly. For example, for intp, Se is blind spot function. So he might be missing his pen somewhere or he may not be caring about what dress he wears. And finally, the last function is demon function. For intp, fi is the last function. Both Fi and Ti are introverted decision making functions so both of these functions gives self awareness about your decisions and behaviour but the difference is Fi users are self aware of their feelings and conceal their feelings and use their feelings to manipulate them selves , where as Ti users are self aware about their thinking and conceal their thinking to themselves. Finally, everyone use every function and it's not about which function you use more and which you use less. But about which function has which kind of attitude.

you are the GOD type EINSFTJP