3:04 the funniest thing about the Olivia Rodrigo comment is me going to google "Olivia Rodrigo Supreme Court" and the third result is a BTB subreddit thread trying to figure out what Robert meant too
i had one of those and i left it somewhere behind me on my life journey over two continents and six countries and i still worry about whose life it is going to ruin someday
Someone, somewhere, just read this comment and is now making a cut of the peter jackson trilogy where all battlecries and yells are replaced by various atonal screams made by Robert. I'd like to say its me, but I saw the workload ahead of me on that one and decided I don't need the reddit coins or whatever they give out now.
@@meatmobile That is infinitely better than any prize the internet could ever give. An afternoon with Jack Burton? It could be raining cats and dogs out there and I wouldn't care.
Nah I think true alliegence beats this, this has some competent writing. That book calls all men “bears” and says every face is “craggy and scraggly”. Plus this shooting is just about gang members, that shooting was like orchestrated to cause a race riot.
I am desperately googling to find out what the Supreme Court rulings have to do with Olivia Rodrigo. Is he joking? Normally i can tell when he is but it sounded so sincere this time
59:52 - The last time the gangs tried to do it themselves, the Luther shot Cyrus and blamed the Warriors and the whole peace gambit got totally fucked. Having a third party as a mediator doesn't seem like the worst idea, but let's face it, the US government is not gonna be a great mediator.
As a traditionally published author (as in, a company made my book and they paid ME), always beware anyone who is so proud of their self-published novel that they start introductions with it. I'm rightfully ashamed of my work.
Now I want a story where two guys are just making small talk with each other without once mentioning where they are until many pages later the president just comes in and sits down at his desk and the story ends.
The bit about the hand rolled green Cuba cigars is wild. Green 'candela' cigars used to be the most popular cigars in America, in fact they were specifically made for the American market, by almost everyone except Cuba (who made them, just were not able to export because of the embargo), they also tended to be machine made for that export market, not hand rolled, so the way he specified this is not only redundant, but would be weirdly ahistorical for any green cigar other than the Cuban ones. But I think I may have figured it out. This guy is a weird conservative guy right? He's crazy interested in spec ops types right? He's all about portraying the actual men at the tip of the spear as being heroes, while kind of suggesting that all the civilians in command of the military are not... There's the detail about the other guy in the room cleaning his nails, and our podcast hosts picked up that that was an attack on the guys character... Well, I think the thing about the green cigars is too... Candelas were JFK's cigar of choice, specifically Cuban ones. Does anyone else think that literally the only thing the author knows about green cigars is that hand rolled Cuban ones (by far the exception to the rule) were symbolically the smoke of choice for a democrat president, and hence in some way an indicator of the secretary of defence being part of an 'evil liberal establishment'?
I really hate it when people talk about wealth managers as being “in finance” or being finance bros. They’re the people who give all the sad, tired people in institutional finance a bad name.
i have no idea, since you can absolutely follow a story written in screenplay format. They even make you do it in high school english class, when you study Shakespeare; those are plays and include the stage directions, though they're less detailed than proper screenplay is these days.
is there a media player anywhere I can use that lets me listen, in order, to EVERYTHING? IHEART will go back to the newest episodes and I have to spend 20 minutes scrolling and loading through the ones I've listened to already. It's so painful because I tend to fixate on a couple things at a time. The amount of time I spend finding where I left off is making me lose interest. PLEASE, SOMEONE SHOW ME HOW I CAN WATCH IN ORDER THAT ISN'T IHEART.
53:50 "i dont care about his degrees, that doesn't tell me anything" I think it does, if you think like the target audience. It says "this guy is some hoity-toity ivy league academic, he's all paper and no product, book smart but not experienced with the Real World like a humble, down-to-earth small-town military man like the protagonist."
As an editor myself I'd say one of the biggest problems plaguing this guy's delivery of story (as you guys talked about how he gives too many details way too often, "tell forever" and etc.) is that he knew he'd have to worldbuild and figure out a lot of details about the characters and world and what was going on, but had no filter on how to pick which of those details were merely necessary to build in his own mind an idea of what was happening and how everyone got to where they were, and which were necessary to convey to the audience. And that's something that a developmental editor could absolutely help with (although seeing as the person he paid clearly failed at even copy editing I'm not surprised it didn't turn out great lmao). It goes back to what Robert and Margaret were both saying about how the story is kind of surprisingly salvageable, with time and effort and a willingness on the author's part to make changes and learn. You know. Aside from the racism and absurd premise lmfao
the chapter headers being a full page can pad a page count but it's highly unlikely any proper editor would go for it--pages cost money after all and if there's more than 6 or so chapters it's probably cheaper to just have a few blank end pages or to cut down to the next multiple of 16. Definitely a vanity-press job: a lot of them just slap your pdf into print format and call it done.
That intro scene. He was trying to write it like a movie. That cutting back and forth between snippets of back story and the tense lead up to the inciting incident would work much better in a movie.
I always love these right wing novel reads. This podcast is so good at humour and entertainment that they make talks about the worst people and events into something I enjoy, but the bad novel episodes provide that entertainment while taking a few steps back from the depressing stuff, so win win!
@@jamiefrontiera1671 Sounds like he's dead anyway, but no I don't really want to spend any money on it. The one copy available on Amazon is $35. I'm not that damn curious!
I'm a Yank but I'm drawing a blank as to why recent Supreme Court ruilings would prevent them from joking about Rodrigo. I'm also old so maybe I'm missing something.
I'd like to know as well. Apparently she publicly said "Fuck you" to the Supreme Court justices, but I don't know why that would mean they couldn't joke about her. Unless the content of their jokes would be inappropriate?
Yank here, I really don't know either. Like, is the implication that Brandon will go sicko mode and order seal team six to whack her? Has she made an actionable threat against the court? Like what is happening??
A lot more than that, but I'm also not sure how it all pertains to Olivia Rodrigo. All that comes to mind right now for SCOTUS is the immunity case, the Chevron doctrine getting merc'd, and the homelessness case.
Olivia Rodrigo is a Filipino American. The Pentagon ran a secret anti-vax campaign to incite fear of China vaccines in the Philippines. That's all I can think. Also maybe just sensitivity regarding immigrants?
Speaking of trashy mil sci-fi yall should do a review on Victoria: A Novel of 4th Generation War. It is not for the faint of heart and the man who wrote the book definatly deserves an episode.
I gagged comedically when they mentioned the author introducing the shitless kid as being black and then immediately comparing the sweat on his back to "diamonds". Because I know it was unintentional, but man the accidental allusion to blood diamonds just sniped me
In defense of the editor + a cautionary tale: When editing for a self-publishing author, they can ignore everything you tell them. Set the terms for the project before you begin working for the author, otherwise you will be forever credited as the editor of a poorly-structured book.
I don't think he's misspelling guerrilla. I think he's establishing that these guys are gorilla fighters, as in they're so badass they regularly fight gorillas.
Have they done part 2 of the bastards of forensic science yet? As someone who studied forensic science i feel like pretty much anything that tries to identify a person besides like DNA is kind of suspect. Edit: i can just feel Al Jones itching to use the N word instead of "the black boy" in that paragraph lol
As a spokesperson for the subreddit people, I was in-fact touching myself during the atonal screech. I'm offended that you think I'd do it in my car with passengers. I have the dignity to do it in my bedroom. I'm not a savage.
Is it not possible to give the black kid a name and not have to continually call him the black boy? Jesus. Could make a drinking game everytime the author refers to a character by their race without naming them. Who goes around with a 357 magnum, besides dirty harry? Dont know why im even commenting, every time i have questions like these, y'all say it less than 30 seconds later to take the words out of my mouth. I swear this reads like a steven segal movie
I wish I had an editor. I have to go over my writing 2 or 3 times to get proper structure and word variety. But man, do I ever feel accomplished for doing it all on my own!
Who is olivia rodrigo? Why dod you cut a portion of the pod? How does a supreme court ruling on presidential immunity affect your ability to discuss a singer songwriter? Im so confused
Legit best cold open ever every single part of it 10 out of 10 haven’t listened to the rest of the episode but already this is an A grade podcast. No notes.
I found one article that associates Olivia Rodrigo with controversy. From 3 days ago. It's just some Madonna-level BS where a fan made a shirt with her face on Jesus's body, and handed it to her. And she made the mistake of visible holding it while in a presumed-christian world. That can't be what Robert is talking about.
I've never listened to you before, but I have found my people.. Ripping shitty authors is my jam. But I'm more angry than y'all, because when it happens, it's because I've spent money and time on a book and it feels like the book is a traitor when I've invested so much time and it's just a pile of poop.
