The Justice League decide to talk about the guy with the medieval weapons and wings who’s on the team for whatever reason. Take a shot everytime Hawkman says “y’know” Second channel: @Solidusjj Patreon: / solidjj
_"To the members of the Justice League,_ _Hawkman tried to join our team, to get revenge on you as a super villain. We don't want him, you can have him back._ _Sincerely,_ _The Legion of Doom"_
@@SorowFame Trial is a poor excuse for a system. If you don't want people taking justice into their own hands, then live in a place where the system does its job.
aquaman can summon some pretty terrifying creatures, like giant squids and great white sharks. hawkman flies and has a mace, and one of the worst forms of extended life.
@@cageybee7221 ''aquaman can summon some pretty terrifying creatures, like giant squids and great white'' Wonder how useful talking to fish would be when your not in the water maybe they can flop around for you ig
@@cageybee7221 But 90 % of times the crimes apen outside of the what he gona then matter fact what he gona do if the sharck just decides tho take a vecaiton and just not show up what he gona do ?
Aquaman has thick skin and the jokes from his teammates are from a place of friendship and appreciation. Hawkman is the asshole with the bruised ego that needs somebody to look down on and the team isn't having it.
Hawkman has the ability to fly, enhanced strength to some degree, near instant healing of wounds, and some iterations of him gave him the ability to talk to birds, power to move large objects with anti gravity, and detect radiation. A support hero maybe, but he was always kind of a specialist that could do things the others could not. What he lacked in the extremes of superman, he made up for in some diverse skill sets. Also, he is a bird guy. That is neat.
Flying, superhuman strength, instant healing , telepathy or communication ability. That's sounds what Aquaman and MM does. Justice League already has two founding members who does it all why would they need another.
As someone who actually likes superheroes, these videos usually end up just making me more interested in genuinely learning about a character. Hawkman is someone who I've always seen on the Justice League and then never really cared enough to look into.
Whenever Hawkman is in a DC thing he's there to serve as cannon fodder to show off how strong the villain is without killing an actually important character
@@TheQuantumWave his power is to get his butt kicked in such a manner that the villain still carries weight and threat after the equivalent of kicking cat.
@@alchemistofsteel8099 I wouldn't say that exactly, shazam is still rather popular thanks to his frequent appearances in cartoons and the movies but he did become obscure in the brief period between the shut down of fawcett and his new home in dc if you wanna get to an extreme case of popular to literal who Joe palooka, the dude had a literal mountain named after and now I'm one of like 5 people on earth who actually read one of his comics
@@freshboy3968 exactly literally one of the reason of boxing became legal in some states, inspired thousands to join the millitary and had a mountain named after and nobody knows who he is
If Hawkman was written properly, it would show that he's the most experienced member of the team. Not just because he was on the JSA but because he literally has thousand of years of experience. He should be figuring out villain's plans faster than the others and setting up counters before he executes them. Having Batman having a plan for every eventuality is sort of silly he's a relative noob and wisdom takes time. He could guide the team when they travel to the past because he lived through many eras. If they weren't in one of his past cities he might have contacts to heroes of that era there.
@@Game_Hero Honestly, that would make it even funnier. Hawkgirl and Wonder Woman looking at each other speaking in non voice actress and everyone totally being cool with it because...I mean, it's HAWKGIRL.
Resurrection and reincarnation really isn't anything special in DC and marvel more so in DC since you literally have a guy who main shitck is dying and coming back to life every week
What made Hawkman a reliable member of the team was the fact, apart from flight, above average strength and long winded reincarnation, his enth metal mace could combat magic, something even superman is vulnerable too, and him having skill in knowing out to fight with his mace gives him a leg up against magical villains
Finally someone mentions the mace. I remember Hawk Girl knocking people out with that thing, but there’s spikes, so it looks a lot less gorey than it should. I always wondered if she had some hidden field or power that stopped the spikes from piercing, why the flipping mace then.
Hawkman makes sense to use it, his reincarnation powers means that he lived many different eras and so it's reasonable that he probably mastered the mace but... Not sure about hawkgirl.
Then Solid JJ's skills as a writer would be wetted by Adult Swim's interference. Adult Swim isn't the end all be all of comedic animation it's fans make it out to be, with most of it's best properties having already, or are in the process of concluding. Or have peaked in quality.
@@pepperedash4424 Do you live under a rock? What about Smiling Friends? It was created by a couple of well known RU-vidrs. It's received a lot of acclaim too. Haven't heard them complaining about Adult Swim interfering.
The 70% that nobody wants to live in and dump their literal shit uninterrupted. Respect to Aquaman and all but to paraphrase a certain idiom: he's the only fish in the pond.
The idea of the team playfully making fun of Aquaman and him taking it on The chin knowing that it’s coming from a place of love is such an adorable idea to me
@@jacextreme6432 I have a very reliable source. Granted, he's an emotionally stunted meathead man child douche dealing with ptsd and a lot of daddy issues who wears a helmet that looks like chromo toilet seat, but I trust his intel.
@@DiegoErnestoTejadaZaldivar his origin has been unclear for so long whether if he was some kind of hawk alien from thanagar or the reincarnation of some egyptian prince guy so dc with their most recent hawkman run decided to just make it so "all of it is the right origin, it's just a bunch of reincarnations" he can be reincarnated at any point in time, past, present, or future even made him an ancient kryptonian in one of his past lives (or future lives in the past because that can apparently happen) so yeah real comic booky stuff
Hawkman is such an enigma. I've seen him in so many DC related stuff including shows, games, and comic book appearances and still know next to nothing about him. He's always just sorta... there...
He has a billion different origins, and not like the Blue Beetle, where it's different people He has many origins in the mainline canon associated with the same person
He's kind of like Angel from the X-Men. No one knows what to do with him either. He got turned into one of Apocalypse's horse men but I don't think his story went much further than that.
I legit just googled Hawkman villains and the only one I recognized was Hath-set cuz of JLU. Also I just realized Shadowthief isnt intended to b a Hawkman villain oof
Batman: Refuses to kill the Joker causing thousands more innocent people to die Hawkman: Bludgeons evildoers to death with a mace Which one is the real hero?
Here's how I though this would go: Batman: "Jesus Christ Hawkman, show some respect" Hawkman: "Bu-but I though we were on the same boat here..." Superman: "Same boat? Now you're just being offensive" Hawkman: "You literally mock him every day" Green Lantern: "We mock Aquaman to humble him, he's literally the richest and most deadly member of the Justice League." Hawkman: "Oh really now? He talks to fish!" Batman: "He's also a sovereign of 70℅ of Earth and controls a portion of Earth's economy" Superman: "And speaking of being dangerous, Hawkman you're a crazy nutjob dressed with overalls over naked body wielding a mace" Hawkman: "FFS Aquaman wears orange fishnets over green pants!" Green Lantern: "And has a cool trident too with immaculate powers" Hawkman: "I discovered a magic metal that can shape-shift into anything!" Batman: "Yet you still can't use it more creatively, unlike Hal here who can use his ring to create literally anything, he beats you in that apartment" Hawkman: "I can come back to life after death!" Green Lantern: "As a totally different person burdened with inexperience and cursed with madness of previous life, like that is useful" Batman: "You also don't have any cool supervillains"
I kinda like the interpretation that Aquaman is actually competent and an integral part of the team, but they call him useless as a light-hearted inside joke Edit: I am well aware Aquaman is actually super powerful and a very successful superhero in the comics, but in these sorts of parodies he's not, and that's what I'm commenting on
Honestly I don't blame them for ganging up on Hawkman. When Batman made a joke about Nemo, it was light hearted banter and the rest actually found it funny. Hawkman on the other hand went in and called Aquaman a "stupid idiot bastard" which is just straight up bullying that the others obviously didn't find funny So yeah, Hawkman deserved that
It's possible, at least in this parody, that Hawkman genuinely can't tell the difference between a lighthearted joke and bullying. Maybe he's socially inept. Maybe to him, the light hearted joke sounds just as mean as outright bullying. The others all have a good laugh at it, so Hawkman thinks that's ok. And since he can't tell the difference, to him, his add on is ok too. I mean, it's the sort of mistake i would make. It barely even registered to me how mean Hawkman's insult was. So maybe he's not trying to be mean, maybe he's just trying to fit in. Or maybe. Just maybe. Maybe one or both of us is putting too much thought into this
And then turned around at the end like, "Why are we always picking each other apart?" Seemed like you were fine with it when you weren't the target, bird boy. 😒
Well to quote from Peacemaker: "If you're a hero why don't you have any arch-nemesis?" "Cause all of them are six-feed under" Hawkman has a point there
I mean 2 of his big villains are a guy who also reincarnates, and a literal ghost. The third big one is also just a shadow. Killing them isn't exactly a feasible thing.
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 How do you kill something that refuses to stay dead, is already dead, and will come back the second someone turns off a light? Answer: You can't.
@@captainlastreo5160 Then there's also just a lion man. You could kill that pretty easily by comparison. Copperhead isn't exactly a Hawkman guy, but I like to count him to balance out the distribution of villains. Same goes for Kite Man, who did fight the Hawks in his second appearance.
I can't get over how Hawkman sounds so much like SwaggerSouls. I think the "next" time Hawkman shows up in an episode you should have him guest star and see how many people notice
Batman asking Aquaman if he found Nemo on the way here can be passed as a harmless joke between buddies. Meanwhile, Hawkman straight-up calling him a stupid idiot bastard is just mean.
Hawkman and everyone besides Wonder Woman who used to be on the Justice Society just kinda got moved up to JL as a free promotion...if they didn't just vanish into obscurity.
For those who know nothing about Hawkman or are curious as to what he contributes: Back in the 60s and 70s, the JLA’s satellite was built using mostly Thanagarian technology, including teleporters, invisibility devices, radiometers, and anti-gravity devices in ships and flying cars. He was also the chief intelligence member of the team, being able to communicate with birds which could witness crimes and trail criminals, and often took most of monitor duty, the role Martian Manhunter took in the Justice League show (in the 60s, J’onn was essentially a backup Superman). He even had a global mind-reading device that he only used in emergency to learn the identities of his teammates so that they could assemble during a ban on heroes. Personality-wise, he was stoic and professional, which led to him often butting heads with the loud-mouthed cynical Green Arrow. He was best friends with the Atom, who he would call on the phone to bring to meetings since the Atom can travel through phone lines. He also often vouched for his wife, Hawkgirl, by bringing her along on adventures, insisting that Superman change the bylaws to allow her on the team, and taking time away from the team when she needed help.
This gets even funnier when you realize that Hawkgirl completely outshines Hawkman in the DC universe. Normally they'd have a male hero with a female counterpart (batgirl, supergirl, aquagirl, ect.) that feels like an offshoot of them; but in this case you've got Hawkgirl taking the center stage while Hawkman comes off as a male offshoot of HER.
Jesus Christ is lord. Please, take your salvation seriously. Read three books of the Bible at least. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. That is important. To be forgiven we must forgive. It is mandatory.
@@AxleTrade I would still put Wonder Woman second. Flash can be straight up broken as well. But Aquaman is also powerful in his own right. He can easily 1v1 and beat any of the iconic Marvel heroes except Thor and Hulk. And even then, he can put up a good fight against Hulk underwater
@@LorianandLothric I don't know about that one, in some versions Hulk is just straight up immortal with super regeneration and durability and capable of planet busting. Honestly the only iconic marvel heroes he would probably beat are Captain America, Hawkeye (who might just straight up kill him immediately if he gets a shot), or Black Widow (same as hawkeye except guaranteed to try to kill). what the heck is he gonna do to Iron Man, who doesn't even hesitate to go straight for the kill on occasions, with his multi-million dollar technologies of mass destruction. He's literally a walking nuke with several PhDs.
I like that Aquaman doesn't actually have any reactions to the jokes until Hawkman insults him, and then Aquaman just looks at him like "Dude, really?" And then at the end, when the team was apologizing, Aquaman was just like "it's all good" with a big smile to show he was a good sport about the humor. He seemed to understand they were just joking around with him, but glares at Hawkman since he could see Hawkman didn't understand it was a joke. SolidJJ needs to write his own cartoon or something. He's awesome at this.
Aquaman only cares about helping people in his own way, if he's not generally regarded as "cool" or "powerful" he dosen't mind. He knows he's useful but he also know that his main identity power a bit of a gimmick with limitation but still very helpful. If people have fun with that then whatever. He is unironically a true chad. He is secure in what he can do and know it helps and that what matters. but while he's ok with being the "shaggy" of the group. The important member that's also a bit comedic on the outlook. He won't tolerate nor reduce himself to other people sincere disrespect. Menawhile hawkman is scrambling for approval and to prove him himself. He is not secure in how he goes about helping people. Probably has something to do with the guilt of the dead on his mind.
Making your own show is a whole different ballpark than what he is doing here, he could definitely write for a pre-established show, and maybe work up to writing his own show.
I love the idea of the Justice League or "Super Friends" being total BROS with each other, making fun of each other but still being true friends at the end of the day.
No but really, I get that the joke is that Aquaman is lame but I like to think that the JL acknowledge and actually respect him because he covers a large specialty that none of the other heroes can cover as well as he can. The ocean is 2/3's of the world and Aqua keeps track of all that, so while its funny to poke at him sometimes because he's not as useful on land as he is in the water, he's still a very core member to a group that wants to protect the *entire* world.
@@InfernosReaper facts like superman can go into space but the bottom of the ocean is much more pressurized so aquaman gotta have some really dense skin literally lol
The sad thing (to me here) is really really could have spun the reincarnation power into being useful. Where he points out that Batman or somebody trained for twenty to thirty years and has that much experience but Hawkman keeps getting new experience and training and remembers the countless Prior ones to have hundreds of years of experience
Depends on how that experience actually manifest into action Batman mastered hand to hand combat in lets say 20 or 30 years and thats all he needs to be effective at it 200 more years is unnecessary
Yet somehow in experience in fighting and stuff he still somehow loses to batman sometimes. And he doesn't have a lot of abilities batman has and batman has had way less time then him. I think Hawk man has bad time management with all that time but not knowing as many skills as batman and also his main skills are comparable to batman. He isn't really training up his skills every life time but after he learned his skills he just uses it and it naturally got better while Bruce actively trained his stuff and got that good that fast so if he did as much as batman in everylife then he'd be way better then batman and way smarter too then it'd be a question on why Bruce is on the team when hawkman is way better and has actual powers and batmans one power of being rich he also has so hawkman would be the one who's there with a supervillain and questioning what batman is doing for the team
Well it was never meant to be a power. It's backstory. But you're right, hawkman is known for being proficient with any weapon, science, and tactics in general. Plus being a detective himself.
“You’re hitting people with medieval weaponry.” Okay, Lantern, that’s kinda unfair considering we have Batman over here with razor-sharp boomerangs that could easily kill someone just as easily.
The basic batarang is just a boomerang, which as a weapon existed throughout history pretty much alongside the mace as a weapon if not predating it. If you call a mace archaic and obsolete, you’d have to call the batarang the same thing. As for Batman basically being a ninja, though, that’s a good point. But how do we know that Hawkman doesn’t train himself to do the same thing and make sure he doesn’t fatally injure a person?
@@justin2308 well the batarang is pretty versatile. It could he used for just about almost any situation. I mean, he can be able to use it for non lethal situations like disarming a guy, cutting rope. His weapons can potentially be lethal but with his training he can turn his bat shaped ninja throwing stars into a tool for pacification instead of death. (And also he had to like dump out possibly a million dollars to custom make those things.) The mace however is pretty much lethal in every sense of the word. The mace had been specifically made to ruin some poor schmuck's day. Not only is hawkman's the typical big ball with spikes all over it but with his strength and warrior mentality. He is well sorted for something as war instead of being a hero.
The answer to "what he contributes" is basically "magic mace that stop magic good". So, in summary, the single most transferable trait possible of "I have this one weapon" is his only reason to be on the team other than a need for extra flying people.
You know Green Lantern’s got a point. Being hit with Hawkman’s mace is like being hit with a planet. Also in modern comics Hawkman can “reincarnate immediately” which means he is pretty much Wolverine.
@@mightybeastofbengal Kinda, except now it’s more like what Flash described. He gets knocked down, and gets right back up. Some modern versions have him reincarnate as a completely new appearance/person, except he stays in his prime age and maintains his memories, so it’s really just a style choice.
Batman provides the other justice league members their incomes. Except Clark. I know this meme is dead but I think he still owes him $16 from 5 years ago
Tell me that there aren't legions of people willing to kiss Elon M.'s butt for a small chance he will be interested in them. Being rich IS a superpower.
You know you're a lame character when your female counterpart, who was created after you and almost no one knew about until she took your place in a tv show, is SIGNIFICANTLY more popular buy an incalculable margin
Yeah. When I first got this video randomly recommended to me I was like "hawkman? There's a hawkMAN!? I thought the Justice League had a Hawkwoman...". So, y'know, it made the video better because I also didn't remember him.. actually, I didn't knew he existed, but same thing :v
I mean this argument can b said abt a lot of things. When ur DC and u want representation ur going to either make a character u alrdy have shine in the spotlight or make a new character and I prefer the first option. Ofc this does make bigger problems like Hal Jordan v John Stewart cuz every1 loves both of them but storyboard writers keep trying to make the other one up each other in founding position in the JL. This case is Hawkgirl v Hawkman and uhhhhh there arent many females on the team; albeit I think the option was adding any1 for the 7th spot and they rlly wanted a female so my argument is kinda in vain so it was never abt adding a bird person to the team they just wanted a girl
Given how Hawkgirl is in comics. It's less so that Hawkman is lame in comparison than it is that the Justice League cartoon actually bothered to take those characters and actually give them a coherent, easy to follow background and story that is of good quality. Secret alien agent who infiltrates Earth to gather Intel and prepare for conquest who grows attached to her comrades and the world she has defended only forced to betray her friends, betray her species to do what she believes is right and goes under self exile for her guilt is far more compelling than what they got in the comics.
Aquaman is my Dad's Favorite Hero, he's unaware why everyone hates on him haha. I always tell him it's because of an old children's show he did (Aquaman and friends), he got bad rep from it. Although I'm not aware of the true reason behind the meme.
I feel like he should rebrand. I think the name ''Aquaman" is holding him back. It sounds lame. Maybe something more bad ass, like "Aquarion", "Ocean Master" or "Sea Lord". Even just his name, "King Arthur" sounds better.
fun fact: Hawkman has a weapon called "the claw of Horus" which is made of nth metal allowing it to harness the earths gravitational field. as Hawkman explains "essentially, I just hit you with the planet." also due to his usage of nth metal he basically has a healing factor as long as he's wearing his armor. the guy's a secret badass and is way underrated.
So even if he did die and have to re-learn how to walk and talk and such, he'd still have the innate human fighting instincts coupled with a planet on a stick.
This is straight out of the comics. There was a point where Hawkman would show up and start going nuts murdering things with his mace, and of the other heroes would ask who invited him. I don’t remember what comic it was in, I think it was around the beginning of flashpoint.
@@yodorr6249 flashpoint was a crossover event that reset the universe and started the New 52. And now that I think about it, I think it was from the Geoff Johns New 52 Aquaman “Return of the King” arc. Also Flashpoint isn’t some “marvel what if” alternate timeline, it’s about time travel. Go back to watching the movies and reading Wikipedia instead of trying to correct things you don’t get.
There was a point in time where Hawkman and Hawkgirl were merged into one being to fix continuity errors in the DC universe... They fumbled that so much that writers didn't want to use him due to how complicated they made their history.
This is rather heartwarming, actually. Aquaman just doing his job (and memes influenced by the Superfriends cartoon aside, he *is* a powerful superhero), and other members of the team really noticing and appreciating that... it's just nice. As silly as Solid jj's videos are, they are always weirdly in character for whoever features in them. I'd feel more sorry for Hawkman if not for the implication that he clubs petty criminals to death. Y'know, almost immediately after mentioning he stopped a *purse snatcher* he reasons that there's nothing wrong with taking out his enemies permanently. Not a great look, dude. (not to mention, immediately going to "you stupid idiot bastard" is not exactly on the same level as relatively good-natured jokes about Aquaman.)
