The Kingkiller Chronicles | The Origin of the Chandrian 

@tom fedczuk yeah man

Jesus, I'd never thought of that...

I ask this about a song of ice and fire everyday

I wonder how many fans of Berserk will never witness the end of this epos.

@@FelixS. I wonder how many cross-over fans exist. I imagine most of the people who have read Kingkiller have no idea what you're talking about. Kudos to you sir. As slow as Kentaro has been at least we've gotten something in the last decade (bit of an exaggeration i know). and Ruthfuss doesn't have the same excuse as GRRM who has published other books and consulted on TV shows etc. pax

I thought this as well, I hope we get confirmation in the third book (if it ever comes out). Also funny cause the chandrian will still remember each others name xD

This is big if true, but I wonder what names are behind the stone doors

Well, they will need to kill Shehyn, the Cthaeh and Felurian. Those are not the best odds.

Elena M. The more I think about it the more I want to just reread the first two

Elena M. Just like GRRM he needs to finish the damn story. Winter has been coming since 1996.....

Seven and one cities, seven and one years to take to finish it.

20 aug 2020 is the set date

There is a set date? I've heard that one before... :/

God no. Dont give him a second book he needs to publish, we'll be waiting another 10 years

He reckons the third book should be shorter than WMF

I don't think he's writing a third book. he's been saying it for almost 10 years and now yells at people when they ask about a release date.

madeline welsh hahah that definitely seems the case but I heard him in an interview (I don’t know when) that he’s already finished writing the book but is spending time to revise the story until he perfects it. That’ll be.... I’m sure, a long long time but hey! When it does get released, it’ll be amazing.

@@hanshinlee4937 man i hope that's true. I am just finishing the second book and I'm already sad to end it. Hope we don't wait too much longer

Keith Cronyn yes, yes and yes

Jax (an unlucky boy) is the origin of the lackless/luckless/lockless family. The box with no lid is what he trapped the name of the moon and when kvothe opens it the doors open to the fae realm which is how the creatures and fae start coming into the world. Lanre may be related to the lackless and kvothe definitely is. Also notice how kvothe sang felurians name? The Chandran are afraid of singers.

@@lrae9519 I think you're right Iax being the start of the Lackless line and you could be right about what's inside the Lackless box, it's very possible. Kvothe is definitely related because of the line in the children's rhyme: the son who brings the blood and Nathalie Lockless being his mom (from his father's song: it's worth my life, to make my wife not tally a lot less). I don't think Kvothe is a singer yet but he might become a full one when/if he meets the Tahl. I've heard a lot of people say that he will in DoS but idk. He might just need to listen but never will (like how the old man, probably Teccam, tried to teach Jax/Iax but failed). El'the probably means listener but Kvothe won't make it before he gets expelled for opening the four plate door, I'm guessing. I've been thinking lately that the Lackless box could hold the piece of 'mountain glass' that Selitos used to gouge out his eye. His blood (i.e. him according to the second law of sympathy-a part of thing can represent a whole thing) is contained in the wood of a single tree and the box is being held shut with someone's alar, binding him to the tree. That is why he cannot leave the tree. Selitos gained a better sight (being able to see perfectly into the future) when he took out his eye but the destuction of Myr Tariniel made him unfamthonably angry. He will burn the world down if it means getting revenge on Haliax and the Chandrian, that's why the Maurlain (sp) vase had the Ciridae looking the scariest. Remember, Feurlian even tells us that there no human Amyr which makes me think Selitos was faen or whatever people made the fae(shapers, Rauch, whatever). The Ctheah even gives us a hint when it says that's why it "helps" Kvothe, because Cinder "did him a wrong turn once", that wrong turn could have been betraying their civilization and joining Lanre/Haliax. The Ctheah is now obsessed with having the Chandrian killed, a nearly impossible task that leaves a huge path of death and destruction in its wake, while the Chandrian seem to want to be forgotten but still sow misery and chaos. Their endgame might be to start another creation war to bring about the end of the world so that Haliax can finally die but idk, just trying to explain why Cinder was leading the bandits that were stealing the Maer's taxes making King Robert's and the Maer's relationship sour. That's a very thought out and reasoned plan and it was well-executed. If Kvothe wasn't there to call down the lightning, with some help from an angel, then the bandits could have fought off who knows how many men. Lastly, Cinder was either able to teleport himself away or haliax was there with him which I find interesting. Or some stupid, foolish shaper made the Cthaeh but at least had the foresight to bind it to the tree. I'm kinda more inclined to believe this since Bast says Iax spoke the Cthaeh before stealing the moon. It could just get amusement by sowing death and destruction and that's why it sends Kvothe after Cinder and the rest of the seven. I do believe Kvothe is successful in killing at least Cinder since we see his sword in the frame story, as the sword Folly. Kvothe's biggest folly was taking the Ctheah's bait, following thru with it and killing Cinder. In doing so, Haliax probably learned Kvothe's true name and that's why Kvothe changed it to Kote, so that Haliax won't have as much power over him. Kvothe might actually basically be a Chandrian, that's why the skinchanger asked him if he was a rhinta. In almost every language that has rhinta (or something close) it means Chandrian, like Ademric. Haliax bound Kvothe to him after Kvothe managed to kill Cinder because I'm guessing he wants there to always be seven Chandrian. Kvothe might try to kill himself to escape his fate like Lanre (that's why everyone thinks he's dead, cause he actually was. Also somewhere it is mentioned that all of his scars are old and faded, all except one. I'm guessing that was the wound that killed him) but either Haliax, Denna (she's probably dead tho so not likely) or his own power, like Lanre, bring him back to life. His story is a mirror to Lanre's because of his failure to learn from Lanre's folly, like Ben tried to warn him, except that Kvothe realized and changed the ending by changing himself. I think that's why he can't open the thrice locked chest, the lock unseen only lets Kvothe open the chest and Kote is no longer Kvothe, except in flashes. We've been told time and time again that this is a sad story but I think that Kote will regain his former self and get the ending that he wants, death. (the patient cut-flower sound of a man who is waiting to die). Then the next series, about Laurel (spelling) Young-Again will probably have some of the same characters (i hope anyway, Im not ready to say goodbye to Bastas) and conflicts. She might end up trying to clean up Kvothe's mess, I think that's where she gets her start anyway. If you got this far, I'm impressed. Thanks for reading :)

@@fulcrumthebrave5715 my theory on why the kote/kvothe change is that something will happen to his hands. his sense of identity is so tied to him playing the lute, its what kept him from losing his mind, its why he says he even has hands when vashet has doubts about teaching him. seriously hurting his hands is something that kvothe dreads all the time. personal theory though

@@AverageAwesomeDude I was actually just listening the part of WMF when Kvothe is in Ademre and Vashet at one point, while talking about how the Adem would prevent Kvothe from sharing the katan, says that they would cripple him. Not anything gruesome but she mentioned cutting off the last two fingers on his right hand. We don't see Caesura/kaysura (spelling) which makes me think that it's either in the chest or it has been returned to Ademre. If Kvothe returned it himself, after he did whatever he did to screw up the whole world, I could see him willingly take his punishment. As a kicker, somewhere around the start of NotW, Kote is getting into his bed and there's a few lines about his scars. IIRC, it goes something like "all were old and faded. Little more than silver lines. All except one." I've never been able to figure out what scar is being referenced there but it could be a massive scar like the one that we see on the hand of the kitchen worker guy in Ademre. Especailly since there's quite a few times that Kvothe is holding one hand with another.

I agree, I would really like to see him do some stuff about Dark Tower.

Lmao, this is so true!

meanwhile Brandon Sanderson spits out book after book

I know, right? Although Oathbringer was a bit meh.

so i have heard but i still didnt read it. But even in the 2nd book there was hint that perhaps sandersons is using to many characters viewpoints. Mistborn is still my favourite, I belive his writing is the best when it is focused.

Yeah, too many viewpoints is true. In Oathbringer he adds even more characters. Even some from his Warbreaker novel which massively annoys me as that entire part is like a commercial. Totally unnecessary. And yeah, Mistborn is great, I like the Wax&Wayne novels absolutely amazing. Shadows of Self blew me away. I did not see that twist coming.

Same ❤

Eduardo Blanco first law was okay, though Inspector Glokta and Luther are one of my most favorite characters. Check out the axe and the throne i think youd enjoy it

I will! Thank you for the recommendation!

The first law is a fantastic trilogy, the heroes and best served cold are also good! you should check out Broken empire trilogy of you dont already know it

William The Conquered: I will check it out! Thanks for the recommendation!

I tried to get into the first law, but its lack of magic/supernatural made me uninterested 😔

Bright Glory it is FANTASTIC. You really should read it. I've read it twice and listened to it on audiobook once. Just wish the third book would get printed!

only twice?!?!

Aye, two more books before three, but not before four, will there be nine. And upon the ninth there will be a second, prior to the first, and directly after the third. When can we expect the last of the trinity? It is said only when time has halted, and all numbers intertwine, to become one.

İ see ur a wise man, i had read the second book 4years ago and still waiting for the third book.

Tehn it's a good book the characters in my opinion aren't as good as asoiaf especially kvothe and denna

Emilio Camacho Erice Thanks for the heads up. I try not to compare stuff with 'A Song of Ice and Fire' because it's like an awesome exception. But sometimes I can't help it. Because I was introduced to it first.

Tehn yeah I had to put it down because of the characters but I retook it again, kvothe is a self insert character who's only flaw is being arrogant his achievements in the time he makes it break suspension of disbelief in my case at least The prose is good though and the pacing too

I highly recommend skipping this, it is shockingly bad. It's a bad first attempt from a hack writer who wrote a self insert OC that aimed to coast of the 'nice guy' reddit thing. If you want a new great fantasy book look into 'The Darkness That Comes Before'

+emilio woah nice to see someone else who actually doesn't like this god damn book. I feel like im going insane when I hear people putting it at or above things like Ice and Fire

It's good but it's not the genius-level fantasy that you would expect from all the praise. Imagine Harry Potter, just a bit more fantastical.

You watched an 8 minute video in 22 seconds?

John Smith I am savitar the god of speed

Sir no. Lanre spoke to the cathae to get the power to bring Lyra back to life that is how he became hilax. That is literally fact in the book what do you mean.

The doors of stone will be released soon , 2020

Nope!

Yes and no. In many ways he's a subversion of the hero trope. Tragic and arrogant rather than chosen and noble. But at times, the Author clearly uses Kvothe as a self insert. Especially when Kvothe waxes about politics and religion.

"Especially when Kvothe waxes about politics and religion" or the numerous teenage sexual encounters :)

Andrew Schumacher kvothe and denna are the worst part of the book in my opinion

Agreed, it's a bit much for me at times. Their entire diversion to the farm in The Name of the Wind was a pain for me to get through, but I suppose it supports some of his Chandrian quest.

Andrew Schumacher his achievements in the time line we are given break suspension of disbelief

Julio Acceus the good man

Dan H why is malazan so hard to start? Stop started 3 times. Just didn't hook me. And i slogged through the WOT so slogging I can do.

Doug. Navarone I think it has something to do with it not following the typical format you see in most fantasy or sci-fi works. Their is no "main" character. No build up to things. As a reader you just get dropped into the middle of a world with hundreds of thousands of back story and a massive cast of characters. I absolutely love MBoTF. It is without a doubt my all time favorite series of all time.

Don't forget Lax XD

Lol ive always spoke kvothe kavothay

@@konankunoichi94 that's hilarious XD I sometimes do that too, because it reminds me of the part in book 2 where the guy is delivering Denna's letter to him but doesn't know how to say it

Was looking for this comment before I even got 2 min in, the way he pronounces a lot of these things makes me question how long ago he read the books 😅

Lol it's because it's his true name. If you know someone's true name you have incredible power over them B)

I agree with you,and I believe he is hiding something behind those brass/copper doors in the library about the chandrian.