The Kingsguard and Jaime's Great Deeds (Game of Thrones) 

Absofuckinglutly 😂

Sad 😢 but true ugh, I still want to taste that..... Again.

Breadtube poetry.

Maybe I should go back with her

@@kaliyuga1476 man, can't forgive her

What did they get right towards the end of the show??

I think the act of Jaime dying with Cersei could work. the thing they fucked up so badly was Jaime retconning the whole bath scene with that ridiculous line about not caring about the innocents

they fumbled everything once they got ahead of the source material

​@@johnnymac6178the fkn hound

@@isaac5532 He didn't retcon though. He was flawed and he broke. He had a chance to become a better person but, at the end, he broke again. That's not a retcon, that's just life.

Disrobes, takes the time to finish his entry in the White Book, kills some Gold Cloaks (presumably with their own weapons), and escapes the city.

@@jordonvh91 Exactly. He may have been old by Westeros standards but he was still Barristan The Bold and his name still meant something. His name lent credibility to whoever his sword was sworn to. He had many great deeds to his name. He killed Simon Toyne leader of the Kingswood Brotherhood in single combat. He also ended the last Blackfyre rebellion during the war of the 9 penny kings where he killed Maelys (the monsterous) Blackfyre in single combat. He also entered Duskendale alone where King Aerys was being imprisoned by Lord Darklyne and scaled the walls of the Dunfort and rescued king Aerys from Lord Darklynes dungeon single handed. Dude was a true warrior. No wonder Lord Tywin was furious. Dismissing Selmy was dumb af.

Ned is such a hypocrite in this interaction; he initially craps on Jaime for doing nothing about his father and brother- but he also craps on Jaime for finally doing something to save King's Landing. What's a Jaime fookin' Lannister to do?!

@@fortune2515To Jaime, they were people ill-served and brutalised by their king. To Ned, Jaime speaks of his family like a shield against critique. Ned maybe a proud fool, but I'm not sure many would differ from him, given the circumstances.

​@fortune2515 well he's saying that because Jamie's saying how it was awful what happened to Ned's father and brother, but he didn't do anything then, when he'd finally put down the king it was when the enemies (even if they were Tywins men) were at the gate and ready to sack the city, so to ned it seems awfully convenient that Jamie only betrayed his sacred oath when his life was potentially in danger than to save Ned's family

​@@GoldnDustyIt's the reputation of the Lannisters and the smug presentation of his discussion. And even on that matter to Ned Stark an Oath is worth more than anything else... you see that in the first episode with the execution of the runaways. In reality it's worth only the weight of whom we swear fealty to.

@@lordreiman8352 Entirely this. Ned said it perfectly: "You served him well, when serving was safe." Everyone knew that killing the Mad King was what was best for the realm but Jaime only did it when he knew he wouldn't have to pay any price for it.

Named by a fellow knight of the crown lands no less

bro i just noticed, good story telling

True he even seems more reluctant than he usually would be, they're all scared shitless 😂

Good idea.

Genuinely amazing idea

They are making an entire series around Sir Duncan the Tall.

Yes!!

someone tag HOD 😢

The Hound, even 20 paces back, accknlowledged the Bold

@@HumungusO_o I mean we all know he could melt them all down like a cake, that just leaves The Hound as the only defense (as big as he is, i dont think he stands a chance, even Hound knows this). So basically, Selmy can kill EVERYONE in there, stamina the only limitng factor.

How would anyone in G.O.T..Use Dope in referencing to a great man like sir Barristen!!..

Like Smaug seeing someone in his treasure room and growling.."Do you really want to do this?"

​@charlesolarte7104 Hound might win out in a game of stamina, but Sandor clearly knows that's a fight he could very much lose...even with the odds stacked as much as they are in his favor.

Cersei needed to fulfill the court by people who were loyal to her

Cersei was a snake and Ser Barristan was too honorable for her to be able to manipulate if needs be. She didn’t realize that he would keep his oath, no matter what his personal feelings he would protect his king. She probably thought he would do what her own brother had done (to the mad king) and kill Joffrey if he went psycho.

@@jammin2575I thought it was to give Jamie a seat on the small council by making him Lord Commander. Thereby further increasing the court with certain Lannister influence.

@@zoren7299 Barristan was loyal to her because he had sworn a sacred oath. If he stayed loyal to Mad King Aerys he would have stayed loyal to Cersei too. The move was extremely stupid on Cersei's part and most likely initiated by Varys to send Barristan to Daenerys.

He wouldve left either way, a rotten court is the last thing he wants to serve in

And Robert

no,brienne was the only one he actualy told the entire thing,the writing is rly bad in places

I would argue that Catelyn did understand Jaime to a degree. She did rightfully trust him to bring her daughters home. That is quite the gamble if you do not believe he has the honour to see it through. She had Brienne as insurance, sure, but Brienne would have ultimately been powerless had Jaime gone against her and Catelyn.

ned was a naive idiot. honourable to the point of lunacy. i laughed, heartily, when his head was lopped off his shoulders

A lot of these characters suddenly became ridiculously stupid whenever the topic of the kingslayer came up. It is as if they all never acknowledge that the king ordering him to kill is own father and to murder the entire city of a million people with wildfire is somehow not relevant. Every knight in the country is promised by his lord “I will give you no command that will bring dishonor upon you.” The moment the King ordered Sir Jamie or anyone to mass murder the entire city, he simultaneously freed EVERY knight of any oaths to him.

oh yeah,he also got the sniveling down to an art

Tricky to say who would have won at that point. Much as I love Sandor he would have had his arse handed to him by prime Barristan but he was well past that at that time, still arguably the best around tho

@@TheJayLordx Oh yeah, Prime Barristan beats everyone except maybe Ser Arthur Dayne, but an elderly Barristan vs the Hound would end as a draw imo.

@@MmaMadman85 Would be one hell of a scrap to watch that's for sure!

At that point in time hound destroys him. Simple as. Prime barriston was there best, better than Arthur Dayne, many eluded to this, it was only daynes magical sword that gave him the edge, even with it no 1 knew for sure. Great writing g.r.r.martin. For me though, prime barriston is the boss, no valerian steel or magic swords forged from meteors, he takes the W.

@@sjbbjs9040 George RR Martin himself answered the Dayne vs Barriston question. He said without Dawn, it would be a toss-up.

Absolutely.

Aegon’s enemies

He also was vile a murderer, attempting to kill Bran and assassinating his cousin

@@Crisyx91 And fucking his own sister.

No, he did bad things. Doing bad things doesn't necessarily mean we're always a bad person-we have to learn and do better, we have to come to grips with our wrongs and make amends to those we've harmed, whether they forgive us or not.

Not to mention influence of his father and Cersei

They really dropped his entire fucking redemption arc by having him say "I never cared about innocent children/people" or something that close to that

Basically saying I'm an enemy of the crown now

Especially considering Ned isn’t ‘as’ honorable as all believed

@@Tony-hq9clhe was even more honorable than all believed, lol, he put his reputation on the line to save jon

He wouldn't believe it

Ned hated everyone who just stood by as the Mad King ran rampant and enabled him while Ned fought against him. Nothing could redeem anyone from that in Ned's worldview.

Eddard was an prideful idoit

''you served him well when the serving was save'' All Neds lies he did it in the hardest possible time and way to save his nephew, dont compare Ned with ser Jaime.

@@yusufraage8554 that line wasnt actualy accurate,jamie served because it was his duty,he didnt kill the king because it was no longer safe to serve him,he killed him because he ordered him to kill his dad and was going to burn down the city,also jamie did some bad stuff sure,but they were always for a good reason,ned also did those things,remember the poor kid he executed in the pilot because he ''deserted''? there is not much difference between these 2 exept for the way people see them

@@yusufraage8554did you forget that he pretends to kill Dayne, the best duelist of all times in single combat but he forgot to tell his friend stabbed him in the back 😂

@@gigakick7882Ned Stark doesnt say he killed Dayne, idiots just assume and he doesnt correct them.

​@yusufraage8554 He also didn't want to stain Arthur Dayne's honor in death by saying he got shanked from behind. Better that the world believes that one of the greatest Kingsguard who ever lived died in honorable combat...especially since Ned was the one to personally return Dawn to Ashara Dayne.

Jaime didn't really have guts. He killed two old men when his father took control of the city and there would be no repercussions. He watched countless innocents get burned alive because, had he killed the Mad King then, he would have probably been put to death. He protected his own life over that of many innocents.

ser Jaime did what he did because his daddy was at the gates and there would be no consequences for his cowardly act. ser Jaime has no honor that is why he kept all his ''good deed'' a secret.

Why do people keep forgetting he pushed a boy out of a window? Haha

​@@yusufraage8554I think you're forgetting the fact that they were about to be all burned alive, and the fact that it was Nedd Stark who arrived first.

@@darkphoenix2745 Ned was at the Tower of Joy with his sister. Try again.

Not as beautiful as you

Because this was a well done video

Cos Jaimes arc ended up ruined

Was just thinking the same thing!!!

No my lord, he has it here!

''you served him well when the serving was safe'' Its easy to do the right thing when daddy is at the gates even Theon could do what ser Jaime did.

​@@yusufraage8554Said dardy and the other 2 armies worth of people is walking into a city with wildfire pots laid everywhere, if he had hesistated even a second too late, theyd all die

He was making a point to Caitlyn about her calling him a man without honor and oathbreaker based primarily on being the kingslayer. How does the kingsguard oath of obeying the king take precedence over the basic knight swear to protect the innocent (from mass pointless wildfire genocide) and the universally soul-damning sin in Westeros of kinslaying, these aren't points of honor? Even ignoring the wildfire which he didn't know about: Ned obeyed his oaths until his father was executed then decided to instead kill Aerys, Jaime obeyed his oaths until he was ordered to execute his father and then decided to instead kill Aerys. Where is the difference? Ned is a hypocrite, he surely wouldn't have been convinced of Jaime tried harder to explain. He judged him instantly, based on the fact that lying Tywin using a ruse to betray the king was ready to take KL when his son Jaime the sworn KG probably plotting with him conveniently betrayed the king and murdered him in cold blood, all in haste just before Robert arrives, for a piece of the glorious victory pie. "Classic Lannister dishonor" From that point on his honor was besmirched to the public for apparently being an oathbreaker so he stopped caring, about his vow of chastity for example. I mean, was he wrong that before sleeping with Queen Cersei he was seen as dishonorable as after people found out he slept with Cersei? So what's the point of sticking with the vows, that's his character. He became a victim of the contradictions of honor in their society and gave up on trying to be honorable His Caitlyn rant is right. In the moment Aerys gave his pyromancer an order to murder the innocent and Jaime killed him on the spot in line with his vow to protect them. Then Aerys stared running away, and would find someone to kill Jaime and might succeed in murdering the innocent so he did the honorable thing in stabbing him. But Caitlyn focusing only on the protect your king part calls him an oathbreaker and man with no honor. Jaime's prefect response is which oath?

Different context really

Arthur Dwayne was a g

@@Rm-ss5gvyes it was.. one stab in the back was to save one person, the other was to save hundreds of thousands

If Jaime had told the truth people would have had more of an understanding. The logic of always defending the king even when it means killing the innocent is exactly what happened with the Roman Praetorian Guard. They were the emperors' personal bodyguards but they will kill the emperor to save the innocent or even to be rid of a tyrant.

Ned didn’t kill Arthur. He lives as Mance Rayder.