(02:38) - Scottie Pippen has to give up half Bulls retirement in divorce (10:24) - Tia Mowry & Cory Hardrict’s divorce settlement is revealed (20:12) - A two parent-household isn’t always the best situation (40:03) - TD Jakes says women can’t tell a man how to be a father (58:05) - Dr. Umar says black men are responsible for the masculine black women of today (01:31:43) - I broke up with my man because he doesn’t protect me (01:38:52) - My woman lacks mindfulness & I’m ready to leave (01:46:31) - Man does 5 years in prison for kids that aren’t his (01:50:55) - My ex is letting his new woman dictates his communication with his kids
(20:12) That analogy is dumb af. Of course you are missing out if you are blind. You can’t see. Stats show more suicides happen in single parent homies, more charges for kids in a single parent home, come on man. But I see what he was saying at the end in a sense.
I agree with Smuv SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME people or the government gave us PIGS but get mad or copy when we learned to make BACON or CHITTERLINGS for survival.
When I say my mouth dropped when 50% of the panel who are all college educated didn’t know about apartheid 😱 dang. Yeah black people around the world will not be unifying anytime soon
♦️It’s surprising that you guys didn’t feel the same way regarding S.P. ex wife compared to Mary J. Even though both women are divorced due to their spouse cheating , one is responsible for paying the cheater, while the other is receiving compensation from the cheater. Some of you thought it was fair that Mary J had to pay because she thought it was WACK for men to receive alimony. When an actuality she was stating that it’s WACK to have to pay the man that cheated on her alimony. OR men that cheat in general. Interesting that there was a switch up. I’d love to hear why. ♦️
Round of applause men!!! Things got a tad heated, and the intermission was needed. You all did a wonderful job smoothing things over. Trill, you were going in today. Plenty of valid points were stated. However, in my opinion, life is based on one's mindset. If one's back is up against the wall and they have tried all resources that they know of and it isn't working. It's a higher chance of them resulting in criminal activities. I THINK that's what Smooth was basically saying. (I need this $ now, so I am going to take my chances. Otis and Kenny, the 2 of you had valid points as well. However, today, you were holding the fort down, keeping the peace. Either way, great podcast. Agree to disagree while giving the viewers a brain note on how they possibly can handle/correct a situation. Just my spin ✌🏾
Trill if y'all gone speak on things such as the panthers, the measures the government took to hinder us, the economy and actual jobs available you gotta do some real research. I get what you're saying but y'all are off on a lot of things. I understand it was before your time that's why you should research and make sure you got the facts straight on important topics like those.
Trill please don't let the success go to your head fam. Just because you have a successful podcast doesn't mean success comes easy to others. People started podcasts just like you and it didn't pan out for them. People started businesses just like you and it didn't pan out. Sometimes you can work hard and the outcome doesn't come out the same, please be mindful of that. Don't devalue people's struggles don't look down on people thinking that they're lazy or unmotivated because they took The only viable opportunity that they thought was available to them. We have to be mindful about these conversations especially when we look at things in hindsight. Also the downfall of the Black Panthers was more than just some greedy leaders.
Exactly. Hindsight is 20/20. I agree. Sometimes ppl look at things from their perspective...their mindset...in this case, his 2023 mindset putting him back then...but that's not how it works. I get he want us to take responsibility and accountability...but 2 things can be true. Some are lazy...but some of us have really worked very hard to build something...but it didn't pan out as we thought. I took that blow to my gut yet again yesterday. So yeah, I Totally Understand what you're saying.
Where did he ever say it was easy? He spoke on the reality of consequences after making decisions. Bro never said success was easy he actually spoke on how difficult it is but the reward is and was bigger to him than dealing with the negative consequences of taking the easy way out. Everything in life is easier said than done, but I know a lot of people that don't even try. Just the idea of applying themselves and giving 100% kills people's motivation alone. Especially in 2023 in this generation, as a person in my mid 20s I witness my peers choose what's cool, what's popular, what they seen their peers do, and what social media says do over authenticity, innovation, and hard work.
@@jayc5756 I understand working hard and it not panning out but how do we still make excuses for making decisions for quick financial gain or material satisfaction, that could land us dead or somewhere that takes us away from our families for years at a time? I'd be willing to work myself out of my shoes and fail over and over again before I took the easy way out.
@@jayc5756 nah I get that bruh, and I agree that it wasn’t the easiest. I just was raised by honest men who made it happen during those times, and built something out of nothing even with all of the adversity back in the day. Glorifying material things and admiration for a certain luxurious lifestyle didn’t start in 2023, that existed back then too.
Regarding the Dr. Umar topic, I agreed with him - and I rarely do. Ultimately, I saw both sides of the spectrum: systematic destruction and personal accountability. At some point in time, as much as we - as black people - have been placed in such a messed up predicament, the reality is that we can always find a way to do better for ourselves.
Personal responsibility is important but if you know the game is rigged, and it is, you can only beat that drum so much. The black man has been public enemy number 1 from birth and it’s not talked about enough.
It's raining men is WILD😂 I truly love yall man, hearing multiple perspectives on situations is absolutely refreshing. Keep up the amazing work, salute my brothas!
1:29:08 Trill also grew up in a 2 parent household if I'm correct...therefore was less likely to make those poor decisions...I see both sides of it..from Smuv' and Kenny's perspective...because compassion needs to be had for that time period...and what was going on in that climate...However, I do completely understand where Trill is coming from..time to move forward and make better decisions...never been a greater time to be an entrepreneur...Great dialogue amongst you all! Have Love for all of you!
Mannnnn Anthony was preaching at 1:24:00-1:28:00🔥🔥🔥 That’s what separates a boy from a man. THAT’S a true leader. That’s a MAN. That’s someone who wants better for his community & is not choosing to make excuses. We need men like him. I loved OT’s assist too. Very disappointing to hear Smuv’s constant excuses & rebuttles lol
I'm Always gonna be on Smuv side in regards to how they treated us black ppl. Trill seem to always shift the blame to us bm...instead of them. But it's just like the Slavery was a choice thing. Hindsight is 20/20 bro. So factoring All of that, I'm not gonna blame my brothers too hard when I know that the system is set up against us. It is what it is. I understand Accountability...but based on All those factors, I'm not gonna fully blame us for what They Mainly did to us. Cmon now. SMH 🤦♂️
I agree wit Kenny and Smuv that it was a system and factors that took the black man outta the house. Trill acting like the black man just got up and left or that they had ample opportunity back then like they do now.
Exactly. Hindsight is 20/20. So he gotta really put himself there...not with his 2023 mindset. Factor all the things set up against us...and it will be what it is.
But what Trill is saying that it boils down to choice to though. If "they're" placing drugs and systems into play we are we choosing to accept them instead a different path?
I bet u live on ya knees...I can tell most of yall came from a household where yall got everything yall every wanted...then told niggaz that wasn't in that position "nigga ublazy that's why u ain't got" yall type of black men ain't black yall an oreo
@@glo9797 I don't care about a good look...most u niggaz without this wouldn't know or care about nothing I got going...so I don't care about that or how someone views me...that ain't gone stop nothing on my train...that's why the real ones fuck with me and the fakes get out the way...I'm not a nigga that see anything from one side but I understand hoe one views me from the moment I meet them or speak to them...so what u say not a good look on yo end is everything I'm looking for to fuel me on mines...so is the cup half empty or half full
TF you talking about bruh?? And Smuv was speaking Facts here man. They All was. They just disagree slightly on the perspective of some things. It is what it is.
Trill really be lost in conservative bootstrap ideology. How do you simultaneously argue boys and girls need parents to guide them into manhood/womanhood and argue boys and girls don't need guidance to start businesses and get legal money.
I don’t agree with Umar EVERY INDIVIDUAL needs to be responsible for how their character is and the decisions they make. People be messed up before getting into relationships. Men can’t blame women and women can’t blame men. Blame yourself
Trill can't speak on a time period that he didn't grow up in without doing the research. During the era he's talking about he said that black people should have done trade work, the issue is that a lot of black men were skilled in multiple trades but the white men joined together and told employers that they had to hire workers from their group. These were the first unions and if employers didn't work with them the unions would cause problems
Trill is absolutely correct I didn’t get what I needed to navigate through these streets and decifer these Men, I had all I wanted, but not what I needed respectfully
If both of the parents are on a HEALTHY mental state, two parents are better. However, if there is toxicity is present, those kids can turn out to be narcissistic, anti social, etc., and hurt people, hurt people.
Smuv really missed the point of the whole argument. He has points but you gotta know when to apply them to the actual argument. Not how you solely view it subjectively. Still love y’all!
Women can have an opinion about their own children and what the fathers are exposing them to. Some men don’t know how to be a father, it’s as simple as that. That doesn’t mean women can teach a man how to do it, it means sometimes they see things that men can’t.
I feel like men dropped the ball because of the old “happy wife happy life” way of marriage. That saying indicates the man has no control and has to confide in the woman’s wants and needs or the whole house and family structure goes with her feelings and attitude.
Smuuuuvvvvv hit nail on the head with parenting!!! little girls need their daddy prior to puberty and boys their mother!!! there so many intangible things that are poured into a child during those years that are necessary for heathy adulting one major thing being a sense of self. Afterwards during teenage years a child should be with like parent because now parenting is based off shared experience, trial and tribulation, its very action based.
I agree with Trill 💯 percent....Dr. Umar was correct if men were there to raise their sons "pookie and ray ray" wouldn't exist to this degree. I don't understand how some guys today fault women for choosing wrong when there is a strong possibility she didn't have the proper guidance from her father on how to choose....sometimes we have to stop being so quick to jump to conclusions without looking at the whole picture imo.
@kayvaughn2875 who fault yall don't know how to identify what a good man is blame your self for poor selection skill in men not there a limited amount of good black men yall probably don't qualify for those men yall half way barely decent women yall damn self
I do agree about the half thing but if you catch them red handed ,after he lied to you and you telling him it was ok to do as you wish after you caught him red handed and I sold the house and land and told him that if the kids want to see you it's their choice ,but me and you are done.
I want to say.. I agree with most things that are said on this podcast and in me agreeing that's why i always give the video a like to show support and share it. But I wanted to actually voice what i didn't agree with this time. I always appreciate a lot of the logic.. i was raised with my grandparents where there was a lot of logic and I'm a Capricorn. I love the little bit of playfulness i think it is a great balance lol! I say all that to say.. i didn't really agree when it came to the subject of lack of quality men and masculine women in the black community. In my opinion i ALWAYS say... black women and black women are to blame. But i actually agree with Dr. Umar this time and i hate to say the shit about the fact that men are the LEADERS and that holds true to every community. If the men are dysfunctional, lazy and not, as a whole, upstanding and hard working women what do you expect a community to be. I feel like every community understands this, as a whole, and that's why they're community's turn out way better because there's accountability. I also agree that the feminism shit was okay for a little but it gotten TOO out of hand and a lot of women especially black lost their got dam mind. But to essentially blame white folk for black men and black women's behaviors? I think that is the reason why the community, as a whole, is just in shambles because there's NO accountability. A white person didn't make Kim open her legs and a white person didn't make James recklessly have sex with a bunch of women and create single homes. If they both were more accountable on both ends? Then a lot of the problems wouldn't be. That's the behavior we practice and you can see it now and for generations before. We CANT blame white people for that. You see other sets of people who may have been dominated by a group, but they overcame that and kept their families in tack, and found ways to create their OWN opportunities etc. They're not begging the "white man" and honestly... that's why tribes, groups do.. if they see resources that will benefit their tribe or country you go to WAR for it AND MAY THE BEST MAN WIN. The whites one in that situation and SO BE IT. That is human nature. White people found niggas and the niggas over them SOLD other Africans to white people and white people were smart enough to get use out of the people that were sold to them. They're slaves in Africa and always have been and other Africans people owned them and still do but that's not talked about just like it relates today.. black people kill each other the most and others but the only thing that's talked about is if once in a blue moon a white person does it. So instead of blaming white folks why don't we blame your own people for first enslaving US in a country that was for US and them blame them for selling you to ANOTHER group of people. Shit slavery was more harsh in Africa you didn't get to have families etc. when the kings die all of the servants die. You can see that in the behavior in us now.. would you want a world where just niggas ran it? Come on we got to be honest about the true behaviors in every group. I say that to say... blaming white people gets old it sounds so WEAK and childish and lacks major accountability. What group of REAL men are going to cry about another group of man not helping them. GET OFF OUR ASSES AND WE CREATE OPPURTUNITES and even when others blacks do that or try to support blacks it' most of the time goes wrong IT IS US. If you cant make it in America with as much opportunities you can't make it anywhere. Now i will agree with how people been voting lately and the LAWLESSNESS that has been encouraged with all the coddling of thug ass niggas in the country has worsened our country. Programs, SOCIAL MEDIA and propaganda for years and people not doing their research about things they see.. (if you want to hide something from a nigga put it in a book) had everyone in their feelings voting a certain way making the country a mess but that's a whole other topic for another day. The way you guys talk and a lot of ya'lls beliefs which i have VERY SIMILAR ones yall are conservatives sounding but I don't believe ya'll are all the way there yet. It's like yall are 90% there but the other 10 is still there from how we all been brainwashed for years and years with the democratic ways of thinking/LIBERAL thinking/ VICTIM thinking. But when i hear yall talk yall don't talk like victims but this is the 10% of victim talk with the blaming the white man. Just like a lot of our grandparent's were republicans etc. because of the values they held... but they couldn't translate that with how they voted cause of the brainwashing of democrats is for BLACKS... republican's are the RACIST when in reality it is the COMPLETE opposite MALCOLM X TRIED TO TELL ALL OF US AND THE BLACK MAN KILLED HIM SMH.-JJ
1:30:01 I can say from personal experience no everyone had a choice. My parent were born in the 70’s and I have been told stories of them and their friends now having a choice to be in gangs and do certain things they were told that they would kill their families or continue to get their ass beat everyday if they didn’t join some for some there were no choice. They weren’t willing to let their families die and the law wasn’t going to do anything because then they would’ve been snitching and would’ve been killed anyone. Sucks but it was real for them.
50:07 yes it’s rough af out and at some point your patents can’t save you from everything. I was not prepared to deal with people because I had a very green view on the world due to my grams always being sweet and kind to even those who had wrong her and I never understood why she always said “Treat people how you want to be treated regardless of they treat you.” Toughest lesson I had to learn but she left don’t be a damn fool because a mf will f you over if you let or as Smuv would say if you acting like a sucka out here you will get licked! 😂😂
Omg! I would love to be able to talk to you young men you all need to teach class to some men omg! I really would love some advice from you all so how can I get in touch with you all? I love the show.
Slim, soooo men now know that they can go to jail for selling drugs and they still do it. Who fault is that? The government? The history is there and the same mistakes are being made by men... They still doing bids and leaving they kids, still making well known mistakes for money instead of doing door dash or paid surveys. Y'all have to stop making excuses or the kids gone see y'all podcast and start making excuses and that equals no change for the future.
Again no one said it was right but when u go back in history drugs were not illegal until it start affecting the white community then they made laws to try to CONTROL it not stop it...because we aren't the ones with planes or boats to go get the drugs...everything was a play...hell and it's still goes on to this day...JP Morgan got caught about 3 years ago with 1 billion dollars of UNCUT coke on a ship and it was washed under a rug...if that had been a ship owned by any black owned establishment that would've been on world news for months and alot of ppl would've went to jail...but what most ppl don't know about illegal drugs is...when u moving 100 pounds or more u need help from the government and the mob or whatever gang its coming from...and most of the time u gone get help from both because it's alot of money on the table....
The pattern is black men's woes are due to the system, black women's woes are due to individual choices. Remember that and everything you hear/see on these podcasts becomes a bit predictable.
